I know this doesn't really belong here but... favorite songs!
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PNETATONIX Carol of the Bells
http:/ /youtu.be/WSUFzC6_fp8
PENTATONIX Radioactive (cover)
http:/ /youtu.be/eh-72yBP7sw
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KANSAS Dust in the Wind
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BRAID (videogame) Maenam
http:/ /youtu.be/5kWo8N4QNXM
2 CELLOS Smooth Criminal
http:/ /youtu.be/Mx0xCI1jaUM
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Did Cher copy Mark Cohn?
Some of mine:
Love Is - Alannah Myles
Downtown - One 2 Many
When the Blackbird Sings - Saraya
Seventeen - Chris LeDoux
No Roots - Alice Merton
Knock On Wood - Amii Stewart
Housecapade Mix of Janet Jackson's Escapade
Holiday - Madonnas
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Oh, I really like "Walking in Memphis"!
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Pentatonix... I can dig it. 
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This guy is French Canadian.
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It's too hard for me to slim my list down to even a few favorite songs. It's not like I haven't littered this forum with good music in between barely coherent posts back in the day. ;)
Here's one I don't think I posted here before though. I actually forgot it even existed until I accidentally stumbled over it on YouTube a few months ago and found myself hitting repeat on it quite a few times.
Odd little song that just makes me smile whenever it pops up on my mp3 rotation.
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Housecapade Mix of Janet Jackson's Escapade
Janet had a few bangers.
I think my favorite was Together Again.
Michael Jackson played a lot of video games and was a huge fan of Sonic the Hedgehog. It's why certain beats in the Sonic games back during the Genesis days are also found in some of both Janet and Michael's music at the time.
Thought it was real cool to see somebody make a Sega Genesis version of Together Again. Totally would have fit in the game as a legit Sonic song.
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Quote:Not familiar with any of them, but if I can find them I'll give them a listen and tell you what I think.
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Did Cher copy Mark Cohn?
Some of mine:
Love Is - Alannah Myles
Downtown - One 2 Many
When the Blackbird Sings - Saraya
Seventeen - Chris LeDoux
No Roots - Alice Merton
Knock On Wood - Amii Stewart
Housecapade Mix of Janet Jackson's Escapade
Holiday - Madonnas
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SIX: Oh yeah! It makes a totally legit Sonic song!
Nice!
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These to me are musically and poetically intriguing.
Kashmir - Led Zeppelin
Dream On - Aerosmith
And this just brings back vivid memories of time at the beach.
Boys of Summer - Don Henley
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:Quote:Not familiar with any of them, but if I can find them I'll give them a listen and tell you what I think.
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Did Cher copy Mark Cohn?
Some of mine:
Love Is - Alannah Myles
Downtown - One 2 Many
When the Blackbird Sings - Saraya
Seventeen - Chris LeDoux
No Roots - Alice Merton
Knock On Wood - Amii Stewart
Housecapade Mix of Janet Jackson's Escapade
Holiday - Madonnas
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SIG, "Knock on Wood" is a disco song. I have it on tape.
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"Boys of Summer" is a good one Kiki. 
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Generally I don't like any song about "love" because the lyrics are such a disappointment.
But I like the SOUND of "Love Is". I found myself nodding my head and tapping my foot to the music. Has what I think of as girl-power rock sound. Joan Jett. Pat Benatar. Great voice, band plays well together, nice tempo, not overproduced. I like!
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Going thru the list;
"Downtown" as in ... Petula Clark? Yeah, I like that,too!
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"Boys of Summer"... another song about love, but I really like the way it SOUNDS.
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SIX: you like alt bands? How about
Starsailor "Some of us"
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Hard to hate on Henley.
I love the lyrics for End of the Innocence.
Still can't post the studio video. After all these years nothing can stop Don from keeping his music off of youtube.
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Remember when the days were long
And rolled beneath a deep blue sky
Didn't have a care in the world
With mommy and daddy standing by
When "happily ever after" fails
And we've been poisoned by these fairy tales
The lawyers dwell on small details
Since daddy had to fly
Oh, but I know a place where we can go
Still untouched by man
We'll sit and watch the clouds roll by
And the tall grass waves in the wind
You can lay your head back on the ground
And let your hair fall all around me
Offer up your best defense
But this is the end
This is the end of the innocence
O' beautiful, for spacious skies
But now those skies are threatening
They're beating plowshares into swords
For this tired old man that we elected king
Armchair warriors often fail
And they've been poisoned by these fairy tales
The lawyers clean up all details
Since daddy had to lie
Oh, but I know a place where we can go
And wash away this sin
We'll sit and watch the clouds roll by
The tall grass waves in the wind
Just lay your head back on the ground
And let your hair spill all around me
Offer up your best defense
But this is the end
This is the end of the innocence
Who knows how long this will last
Now we've come so far, so fast
But somewhere back there in the dust
That same small town in each of us
I need to remember this
So baby, give me just one kiss
And let me take a long last look
Before we say good bye
Just lay your head back on the ground
And let your hair fall all around me
Offer up your best defense
But this is the end
This is the end of the innocence
A lot deeper than your typical love song. And really not about love so much as seduction possibly leading to a one night stand.
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A lot deeper than your typical love song. And really not about love so much as seduction possibly leading to a one night stand.
I think what Henley lyrics really paints are intense scenes about places and moments. End of summer, the empty beaches and lakes. Empty fields, people captured by evil dreams. Lyrics not JUST about seduction, but I feel the protagonist in that song had a ather who went away to war ("fly") and died, and that he, too, will be going away to war soon, too, ending HIS innocence.
Plus, I like his voice. And the instrumentals don't overpower that.
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Having all of two(!) lyrics to analyze, I think Henley (if he wrote his own lyrics) paints his pictures by contrast.
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Can't let Kashmir and Dream On go by without a mention: I really like them, too.
Kashmir has that really interesting progression that almost sounds like something out of those old spy-show theme songs, but this song is totally not that.
Dream On has the same "sound", to me, as Henley (altho Boys of Summer has a faster tempo) and also America, but the Aerosmith lyrics are much more interesting than (say) A Horse with No Name.
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So, BRENDA, I've sampled some of your picks. You seem to like "outlaw/outsider" songs?
I could never appreciate Elvis bc he became famous when I was young, and I know he was trying to look sexy but at that age "sexy" didn't mean much to me, all I could see was the sneer. Big turnoff. Funny, but I think Billy Idol was a lot the same, but more extreme.
What do you think of Johnny Cash? He's my favorite in the "outlaw/outsider" category.
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So, BRENDA, I've sampled some of your picks. You seem to like "outlaw/outsider" songs?
I could never appreciate Elvis bc he became famous when I was young, and I know he was trying to look sexy but at that age "sexy" didn't mean much to me, all I could see was the sneer. Big turnoff. Funny, but I think Billy Idol was a lot the same, but more extreme.
What do you think of Johnny Cash? He's my favorite in the "outlaw/outsider" category.
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As I said my mom liked Elvis since I was very small and I have seen the film "Flaming Star" which is the only Elvis movie I like as he doesn't sing in it. There aren't many Elvis songs that I "like" but that is one of them.
I like a few Canadian artists too like Roch Voisine. Colin James, Susan Aglukark, Kashtin. I'll see later if I can did any of them up.
Stumbled across Los Lonely Boys a number of years ago and like some of their stuff.
Johnny Cash another one I grew up listening too. Both my parents seemed to like him. I can take him or leave him.
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The song I was trying to post is called "One Piece at a Time"
It's about a guy moving from Kentucky to Detroit.
Lyrics for "One Piece at a time"
Well, I left Kentucky back in '49
And went to Detroit workin' on the a 'sembly line
The first year they had me puttin' wheels on Cadillacs
Everyday I'd watch them beauties roll by
And sometimes I'd hang my head and cry
'Cause I always wanted me one that was long and black
Chorus
I'd get it one piece at a time and it wouldn't cost me a dime
You'll know it's me when I come through your town
I'm gonna ride around in style, I'm gonna drive everybody wild
'Cause I'll have the only one there is around
One day I devised myself a plan
That should be the envy of most any man
I'd sneak it out of there in a lunchbox in my hand
Now gettin' caught meant gettin' fired
But I figured I'd have it all by the time I retired
I'd have me a car worth at least a hundred grand
So the very next day when I punched in
With my big lunchbox and with help from my friends
I left that day with a lunch box full of gears
I've never considered myself a thief
But GM wouldn't miss one little piece
Especially if I strung it out over several years
The first day I got me a fuel pump
And the next day I got me a engine and a trunk
Then I got me the transmission and all the chrome
The little things I could get out in my big lunch box
Like nuts an' bolts, and all four shocks
But the big stuff we snuck out in my buddy's mobile home
Now, up to now my plan went all right
Till we tried to put it all together one night'
And that's when we noticed that something was definitely wrong
The transmission was a '53 and the motor turned out to be a '73
And when we tried to put in the bolts all the holes were gone
So we drilled it out so that it would fit
And with a little bit of help with an adapter kit
We had that engine runnin' just like a song
Now the headlights was another sight
We had two on the left and one on the right
But when he pulled out the switch all three of 'em come on
The back end looked kinda funny too
But we put it together and when we were through
Well, that was when we noticed that we only had one tail-fin
About that time my wife walked out
And I could see in her eyes that she had her doubts
But she opened the door and said, "Honey, take me for a spin."
So we drove up town just to get the tags
And I headed her right on down main drag
I could hear everybody laughin' for blocks around
But up at the court house they didn't laugh
'Cause to type it up took the whole staff
And when they got through the title weighed sixty pounds
Uh yow, Red Ryder, this is the Cotton Mouth
In the Psycho-Billy Cadillac come on, huh, this is the Cotton Mouth
And negatory on the cost of this mow-shine there Red Ryder
You might say I went right up to the factory
And picked it up, it's cheaper that way
Uh, what model is it
Well, it's a '49, '50, '51, '52, '53, '54, '55,
'56, '57, '58, '59 automobile
It's a '60, '61, '62, '63, '64, '65, '66, '67, '68, '69, '70 automobile
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:Quote:Not familiar with any of them, but if I can find them I'll give them a listen and tell you what I think.
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Did Cher copy Mark Cohn?
Some of mine:
Love Is - Alannah Myles
Downtown - One 2 Many
When the Blackbird Sings - Saraya
Seventeen - Chris LeDoux
No Roots - Alice Merton
Knock On Wood - Amii Stewart
Housecapade Mix of Janet Jackson's Escapade
Holiday - Madonna
One 2 Many was recorded the same stuio as ABBA. I'm not aware of any Petula Clark connection. I thought the entire album was original work - and I would play the entire album, on repeat, endlessly.
Come downtown, in the city theres a lot of fun...
vocalist Camilla Griehsel, before she married and became opera singer.
Alannah, Saraya (both albums), Madonna I loved the whole album, but those cuts were more popular.
Chris has more than 40 albums, 5 or 6 hits or compilations, and I love many of them. Little Long-haired Outlaw, Hooked On an 8-Second Ride, Born In Mississippi, Wild and Wooly.
I should have included Addagio For Strings by Samuel Barber.
I think also a title "Baja 1000" by Michael Nesmith. No lyrics.
eta: I personally own over 1,000 CDs (as of 1999), and quite a few 12" singles.
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A lot deeper than your typical love song. And really not about love so much as seduction possibly leading to a one night stand.
I think what Henley lyrics really paints are intense scenes about places and moments. End of summer, the empty beaches and lakes. Empty fields, people captured by evil dreams. Lyrics not JUST about seduction, but I feel the protagonist in that song had a ather who went away to war ("fly") and died, and that he, too, will be going away to war soon, too, ending HIS innocence.
Plus, I like his voice. And the instrumentals don't overpower that.
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Having all of two(!) lyrics to analyze, I think Henley (if he wrote his own lyrics) paints his pictures by contrast.
"all of two lyrics"? I'm not sure I get that statement?
I think you paint a lot nicer picture of what Don meant when he wrote the song.
(And take wikipedia with the grain of salt it deserves, but in the case of Don Henley I do believe he wrote most if not all of his music. He's FIERCELY protective of all of it): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Songs_written_by_Don_Henley
I always took "The End of the Innocence" to mean the first time she had sex. So not only a song about seduction, but a song about the seduction of a young virgin woman.
And not a creepy (age inappropriate) or rapey seduction either. I imagine he's a bit older and "wiser" from the street smarts picked up from being a musician on the road all the time, but it's not some Harvey Weinstein type abuse of power. His "character" in the song is loosely based off of himself... somebody who's "loved" a lot of women, but never actually been IN love, and doesn't even really believe in the idea of love. She, on the other hand, is still a young and pure idealist who still believes in fairy tales and happily ever after, despite the fact that she already told him that her dad cheated on her mom and left. Perhaps a small town Christian girl who is saving herself for marriage, or at least until she can find what she believes will be the one true love she will eventually marry.
I think the song lyrics deserve a bit of a breakdown.
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Remember when the days were long
And rolled beneath a deep blue sky
Didn't have a care in the world
With mommy and daddy standing by
When "happily ever after" fails
And we've been poisoned by these fairy tales
The lawyers dwell on small details
Since daddy had to fly
The start of the song here I pretty much summarized in who the girl being seduced was above. Happily Ever After failed, and it's inevitable because the fairy tales we're told when we grow up aren't real and life will let you down, just like when her father made a bad decision that changed her family forever.
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Oh, but I know a place where we can go
Still untouched by man
We'll sit and watch the clouds roll by
And the tall grass waves in the wind
You can lay your head back on the ground
And let your hair fall all around me
Offer up your best defense
But this is the end
This is the end of the innocence
The chorus, which is worded slightly different every time, is an allegory for sex. Although he just thinks of it as a most pleasurable act and would consider it just "sex" or even lewder terms, he knows that she would be mortified if he did, so he charms her with his poetic talents. "Give up. Give in. This is the end of the innocence. And that's a good thing... trust me."
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O' beautiful, for spacious skies
But now those skies are threatening
They're beating plowshares into swords
For this tired old man that we elected king
Armchair warriors often fail
And they've been poisoned by these fairy tales
I never took this to mean he was going to war himself, which is what I think I see that you have done when you heard the song. I felt that along with bein
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I never thought end of innocence was about sex or physical sense, and certainly don't now.
tired old man we elected king was Reagan
Isn't this the same album as Dirty Laundry? Same vein, anyhow.
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I never thought end of innocence was about sex or physical sense, and certainly don't now.
That's fine. That's what music is about. And it's great songs like End of the Innocence that people still reflect on and debate about the meaning decades after they were on the top of the music charts.
I don't think this song had anything at all to do with politics, and they were just a mere backdrop for a short, intimate encounter between two people.
Just because Don was capable of writing politically charged songs like Dirty Laundry doesn't mean that every song he ever did was politically charged.
I also don't think that the "tired old man we elected king" was specifically Reagan. Not just because it was GHW Bush that was president when the song was released either. I think that line is simply referring to whoever we had elected as president, which up to that point had almost exclusively been tired old men. This song is timeless. The fact the song came out 5 months after Bush was elected and could be applied to either Bush or Reagan can make you take a step back and realize that any kid who's ever listened to it in the decades that followed could apply it to the president that was currently in office while they were discovering the world for themselves.
The only argument against that could perhaps be a young-ish Obama, but that's only from the perspective from adults such as us who realize that he wasn't exactly "old" when he was elected... to kids and teenagers he would still seem like an old man. And he sure aged a lot in 8 years.
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Let me ask you, JSF. What, specifically, do you think the line "offer up your best defense" means?
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Another thing I find extremely interesting is when you mishear lyrics to a song you have loved for a long time and finding out what the real lyrics are either force you to deny them or to change in your own mind and heart what the song meant.
I possibly have had that moment right now when looking at another favorite of mine.
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t's hard to rely on my good intentions
When my head's full of things that I can't mention
It seems I usually get things right
But I can't understand what I did last night
And it's hard to rely on my own good senses
When I miss so much that requires attention
Have to laugh at myself sometimes
And I can see that I'm not blind
There's little relief
Give us reprieve, oh
For all the things I've left behind
I'm positive that I'm not blind
I'm not afraid things won't get better
But it feels like this has gone on forever
You have to cry with your own blue tears
Have to laugh with your own good cheer
And it's hard to rely on my good intentions
When my head's full of things that I can't mention
It seems I usually get things right
But I can't understand what I did last night
There's little relief
Give us reprieve, oh
And imagining the world outside
I'm positive that I'm not blind
I can't be hard on you
'Cause you know I've been there too
Learned a lot of things from you
Oh, when life gives little relief
Give us reprieve, oh
And when everyone is cold as ice
I clinch my fists and close my eyes
Imagining the world outside
And I can see that I'm not blind
Only I've never heard those lyrics and still don't when I listen to the song.
Specifically:
Quote:
There's little relief
Give us reprieve, oh
I've always heard...
This little release
Give us a brief... Oh!
Yeah... I know. Sex again.

But just swapping those two lines out changes the tone of the song.
It's not as if my lyrics for the song have to be "what he did last night" that he can't understand. It sounds like he's very confused about life in general at this point and he feels he's making a whole lot of bad decisions without the need for a one night stand, possibly with a friend he'd never have had sex with while sober, being another mistake added to the pile.
But the "known" lyrics posted on the internet really seem to fail when it goes to the chorus the final time here:
Quote:
I can't be hard on you
'Cause you know I've been there too
Learned a lot of things from you
Oh, when life gives little relief
Give us reprieve, oh
The underlined part is completely wrong. There is no "when" at all, and you can clearly hear the "eese" sound at the end of what they claim to be "relief".
And "learned a lot of things from you" could imply that he was also a virgin himself before getting drunk and doing something with a friend he regrets. He's letting her know he's not mad at her that it happened, he values their friendship and he hopes that they can get past this and still be friends without it being weird.
I've seen several websites that post the lyrics above, but I still hear the ones I've always heard when listening to the song. Until I find something official, such as the possibility of lyrics written on the inside of a CD jacket, I'm going with the ones I've always heard.

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So, believe it or not, SIX, but I know NOTHING about Henley. Altho I can remember melodies and sing along with songs that I like, I generally don't remember titles or artists or ... anything. So I dip in and out of listening to music and there are whole decades that I don't know anything about.
But having looked up a couple more songs ("Heart of the Matter" and others) he's a lot more POLTICAL and philosophical than I think you give him credit for. There's a lot on that song about beating plowshares into swords and evil men making war to get elected, and I don't think he put those in there by accident.
Edited to add: I think the end of innocence isn't when its violated. The real end of innocence is when you knowingly participate in something you think is wrong.
I feel like the song is an allegory. Needs some thought.
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I knew Morgan Freeman could play God .. or The President .. but who knew he could sing?
And he's not too shabby on the cowbell either!
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Who knew???
God* sings and plays the cowbell!
*As played by Morgan Freeman.
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So, believe it or not, SIX, but I know NOTHING about Henley. Altho I can remember melodies and sing along with songs that I like, I generally don't remember titles or artists or ... anything. So I dip in and out of listening to music and there are whole decades that I don't know anything about.
But having looked up a couple more songs ("Heart of the Matter" and others) he's a lot more POLTICAL and philosophical than I think you give him credit for. There's a lot on that song about beating plowshares into swords and evil men making war to get elected, and I don't think he put those in there by accident.
Edited to add: I think the end of innocence isn't when its violated. The real end of innocence is when you knowingly participate in something you think is wrong.
I feel like the song is an allegory. Needs some thought.
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I wasn't trying to insult him. Between his own songs and those he wrote for the Eagles, he's got some brilliant writing, very much including End of the Innocence.
I think he pulled an M Knight Shamalyan on you and JSF. You expect it to be political given his body of work so you assume that it is because of some words that pop up here and there in the song.
The politics are just the backdrop. There's a girl who's parents just split, who's just realizing how terrible the world is out there, and Don ('s character) is offering her reprieve. "A place where we can go, still untouched by man". He's telling her that "happily ever after fails and we've been poisoned by these fairy tales" and then offering her up one of his own.
I'll ask you the same question I posed to JSF last night... How else do you explain the line "Offer up your best defense?"
There's no way you can make that line fit with Defense spending and the Military Industrial Complex.
I could be off base about it being an artist seducing a virgin into a one night stand. But the song is very much about sex.
In any event, I'd put "End of the Innocence" on the top list of hilariously bad song choices for wedding. Somewhere right in between "Every Breath You Take" by the Police and "Hey Ya!" by Outkast.
Even Andre 3000 from Outkast came out and said that it was a terrible choice to play at a wedding, even though it was on every wedding playlist at the time. I read a great article where he was laughing about weddings with old white ladies dancing to lyrics like "Don't want to meet your Daddy, just want you in my Caddy. Don't want to meet yo mama, just want to make you comma."
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I found out End of the Innocence was not the same album as Dirty Laundry.
EoTI was released mid-1989. Recorded in 1987. Last single was released in 1985. So EoTI was likely written, composed in 1984, 85, 86, and/or 87.
Bush41 was not President.
I can see 6ix is stuck with sex on the brain.
I realized that I have never heard anybody imply or suggest that that song had anything to do with sex, or any physical sense.
Henley considers the Innocence to be the war years of LBJ, Carter, drug haze days of the 60s and 70s.
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I found out End of the Innocence was not the same album as Dirty Laundry.
EoTI was released mid-1989. Recorded in 1987. Last single was released in 1985. So EoTI was likely written, composed in 1984, 85, 86, and/or 87.
Bush41 was not President.
I can see 6ix is stuck with sex on the brain.
I realized that I have never heard anybody imply or suggest that that song had anything to do with sex, or any physical sense.
Henley considers the Innocence to be the war years of LBJ, Carter, drug haze days of the 60s and 70s.
Oh yeah? Show me where he said that. Any of it.
In the meantime, while you're looking for something you'll never find because he never said it, you can go ahead and answer my question from before.
What does the line "Offer up your best defense" mean?
You're just forcing it to be a political song because you're a political nutjob just like the Lefty weirdos on this board. All you guys do is think in politics.
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Here's another great one...
Now I know that JSF will say that it's about the actual act of sailing on the actual sea in an actual boat, but most music is a little deeper than that... at least the good music, and a song about sailing wouldn't explain the broad mass appeal, hitting number one on the Billboard charts for a week in 1980 and winning song and album of the year.
A millennial meth head who'd never heard this song before could accidentally stumble upon it one night in 2021 and be like "yeah, that's what happens when I smoke meth, man".
Is it about sex? Sure. It can be if that's what you want it to be. I know you've got some serious hangups about sex, JSF, but you're no judge.
From Christopher himself about the song:
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On the Howard Stern radio show, Cross explained that sailing with his friend got him away from the trials and tribulations of being a teenager. Cross said that if the guy had taken him bowling and he enjoyed it, the song could have become "Bowling."
Replace "Bowling" both times in that sentence above with any verb you choose, and that's what Sailing is about.

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"Sailing" is a good song SIX. Very relaxing.
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Deleting as the video is unavailable.
The video is of song called "Home" by Michael Buble. He is French Canadian but it is in English. Will post lyrics later.
Another summer day
Has come and gone away
In Paris and Rome
But I wanna go home, mmm
May be surrounded by
A million people I
Still feel all alone
Just wanna go home
Oh, I miss you, you know
And I've been keeping all the letters
That I wrote to you
Each one a line or two
I'm fine baby, how are you?
Well I would send them but I know
That it's just not enough
My words were cold and flat
And you deserve more than that
Another airplane
Another sunny place
I'm lucky I know
But I wanna go home
Mmm, I got to go home
Let me go home
I'm just too far
From where you are
I wanna come home
And I feel just like
I'm living someone else's life
It's like I just stepped outside
When everything was going right
And I know just why you could not
But you always believed in me
Another winter day
Has come and gone away
In even Paris and Rome
And I wanna go home
Let me go home
And I'm surrounded by
A million people I
I still feel alone
Oh, let me go home
Oh, I miss you, you know
Let me go home
I've had my run
Baby, I'm done
I gotta go home
Let me go home
It'll all be all right
I'll be home tonight
I'm coming back home
Come along with me
That this was not your dream…
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"Sailing" is a good song SIX. Very relaxing.
It's one of the few songs I grew up with that I can still listen to. So many great songs just seem to get to a point where they start grating on my nerves and even cause me to groan when I hear them on the radio.
I can't imagine ever getting sick of Sailing.
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The video is of song called "Home" by Michael Buble. He is French Canadian but it is in English. Will post lyrics later.
Here you go, Brenda.

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"Sailing" is a good song SIX. Very relaxing.
It's one of the few songs I grew up with that I can still listen to. So many great songs just seem to get to a point where they start grating on my nerves and even cause me to groan when I hear them on the radio.
I can't imagine ever getting sick of Sailing.
I still listen to it too.
I listen to CD, tape or LP depending on my mood.
PS. Thanks for posting Buble's song. It wouldn't work with the "Official video" for me.
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"Sailing" is a good song SIX. Very relaxing.
It's one of the few songs I grew up with that I can still listen to. So many great songs just seem to get to a point where they start grating on my nerves and even cause me to groan when I hear them on the radio.
I can't imagine ever getting sick of Sailing.
I still listen to it too.
I listen to CD, tape or LP depending on my mood.
PS. Thanks for posting Buble's song. It wouldn't work with the "Official video" for me.
No worries. I didn't see this post before. You're welcome.

I just remembered this song. I love the Pixies version, but when I saw this remake on a crappy B flick, I really liked it too.
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This is a really great one from an old video game that probably nobody here has even heard before.
Just a really chill song that I could listen to on loop forever.
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Here's something a little more classical and my favourite piece from "Phantom of the Opera
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I saw a video about the flick today and just hearing the theme song gave me some serious nolstalgia pangs. I loved this song when I was a kid.
Posted the version from the 2nd movie since it doesn't have the kids laughing maniacally at the end that kind of ruins it.
I can't believe Goldsmith didn't win that year.
I never knew he made a version with lyrics too. They actually fit really well with the movie.
Why can't movie soundtracks be like this anymore?
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This one's a banger...
I have no idea if it was in a movie or TV show I saw when I was a kid, and it came out before I was born, but I'd heard it enough that all I have to do is hear two notes of it and it brings on the nostalgia.
Just heard him brought up in a video seemingly completely unrelated and wanted to listen to it again now.

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This one's a banger...
I have no idea if it was in a movie or TV show I saw when I was a kid, and it came out before I was born, but I'd heard it enough that all I have to do is hear two notes of it and it brings on the nostalgia.
Just heard him brought up in a video seemingly completely unrelated and wanted to listen to it again now.
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I have it on tape and it is a great piece of music. Can't remember where I heard it first but that's another piece of music I like.
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I've been hearing this one on the radio lately.
I love it.
Chill AF.
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I have it on tape and it is a great piece of music. Can't remember where I heard it first but that's another piece of music I like.
I didn't see you reply to this Brenda.
Yeah. What a great song. I never hear it anymore unless I look for it on YouTube because something reminds me of it, but when I do I usually listen to it on loop for about an hour.

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I have it on tape and it is a great piece of music. Can't remember where I heard it first but that's another piece of music I like.
I didn't see you reply to this Brenda.
Yeah. What a great song. I never hear it anymore unless I look for it on YouTube because something reminds me of it, but when I do I usually listen to it on loop for about an hour.
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No worries. Like I said I liked it so much I recorded it and pull out the tape it is on and listen to it every so often. Just beautiful and soothing.
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I saw a real interesting video about how melody is dying. Sounds like something a Boomer or even a GenXer would say these days, but the guy who made the video is quite a bit younger than I am.
He used a lot of examples of new music that I definitely would never listen to, but I did listen to rap a lot back in the day so it's not as if I hadn't listened to my fair share of songs without almost any melody.
That being said, while reflecting on my favorite rap songs... those that are still on my mp3 player today, they were ones that had melodies to them. One even comes from a group that called themselves Bone Thugs and Harmony.
You could even find it in the Tupac songs still on my mp3 player...
Even if there isn't a large variation of vocal melody in that song, and trust me... Tupac has quite a lot of melodic range compared to your average rap artist, there's plenty of melody surrounding it.
Then I looked on my list here, and everybody else's, and I would say that there's plenty of melody in all of the choices here.
So I tried thinking real hard if there has ever been a song without melody that I've liked over the years, and I think I found one.
ETA: As not to offend those with more delicate sensibilities, because I'd like somebody to tell me if there is any melody here or not, I've opted to put the radio edit here instead of the uncensored version.
But is it really without melody? Listening to it now I don't believe that it is. Melody certainly isn't the driving force of this jam, but there is melody to it... Isn't there?
Or am I mistaking several really infectious hooks for melody here?
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Had a bit of a listen to SKINT there SIX and it has a rhythm to me anyways. Not my kind of music really.
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Not a favorite, but one that certainly captures my attention. I copied the lyrics so you can see why.
WORTHLESS
I can't take this kind of pressure
I must confess one more dusty road
Would be just a road too long
Worthless
I just can't, I just can't
I just can't seem to get started
Don't have the heart to live in the fast lane
All that has passed and gone
Worthless
(And there ain't nothing you can do about it)
Worthless
(Pardon me while I panic!)
Worthless, worthless, worthless
I come from KC Missouri
And I got my kicks out on Route 66
Every truck stop from Butte to MO
Motown to old Alabama
From Texarkana and east of Savannah
From Tampa to old Kokomo
Worthless
I once ran the Indy 500
I must confess I'm impressed how I did it
I wonder how close that I came
Now I get a sinking sensation
I was the top of the line, out of sight; out of mind
So much for fortune and fame
Once took a Texan to a wedding
Once took a Texan to a wedding
He kept forgetting, his loneliness letting
His thoughts turn to home and we turned
I took a man to a graveyard
I beg your pardon, it's quite hard enough
Just living with the stuff I have learned
Worthless
Once drove a surfer to Sunset
There were bikinis and buns, there were weenies
Fellini just couldn't forget
Pico, let's go up to Zuma
Pico, let's go up to Zuma
From Zuma to Yuma the rumor was
I had a hand in the lay of the land
Get up and go hit the highway
(Oo-wooh...)
I worked on a reservation
(Ooh...ooh...)
Who would believe they would love me and leave
On a bus back to old Santa Fe?
Once in an Indian Nation
I took the kids on the skids where the Hopi
Was happy 'til I heard 'em say...
"You're worthless."
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Quote:I don't know what a "hook" is, but I do hear melody. It's kind of minimal but it's there.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I saw a real interesting video about how melody is dying. Sounds like something a Boomer or even a GenXer would say these days, but the guy who made the video is quite a bit younger than I am.
He used a lot of examples of new music that I definitely would never listen to, but I did listen to rap a lot back in the day so it's not as if I hadn't listened to my fair share of songs without almost any melody.
That being said, while reflecting on my favorite rap songs... those that are still on my mp3 player today, they were ones that had melodies to them. One even comes from a group that called themselves Bone Thugs and Harmony.
You could even find it in the Tupac songs still on my mp3 player...
Even if there isn't a large variation of vocal melody in that song, and trust me... Tupac has quite a lot of melodic range compared to your average rap artist, there's plenty of melody surrounding it.
Then I looked on my list here, and everybody else's, and I would say that there's plenty of melody in all of the choices here.
So I tried thinking real hard if there has ever been a song without melody that I've liked over the years, and I think I found one.
ETA: As not to offend those with more delicate sensibilities, because I'd like somebody to tell me if there is any melody here or not, I've opted to put the radio edit here instead of the uncensored version.
But is it really without melody? Listening to it now I don't believe that it is. Melody certainly isn't the driving force of this jam, but there is melody to it... Isn't there?
Or am I mistaking several really infectious hooks for melody here?
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If you want to hear some minimalist music, try Phillip Glass.
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I don't know what a "hook" is, but I do hear melody. It's kind of minimal but it's there.
If you want to hear some minimalist music, try Phillip Glass.
Oooh... That's a eerie tune. I think that's an example of a song that doesn't have any hooks.
What I mean by "hook" is the part of the music that sticks with you. Usually it's a phrase in the chorus or a riff. In the song I posted above, "Battleflag", I hadn't heard in well over a decade, but when it popped up on my recommended a year or two ago I rememberd it immediately and I've listened to it a lot since then.
Though I remembered some of the words (and was still hearing some of them wrong until I looked up the lyrics for it), it was really some of the beats and instrumental progressions that stuck with me.
I'm not sure if it's possible to have songs completely without a melody. Even the Philip Glass song that you posted has melody, although I can't imagine listening to it on a playlist and feel that it would almost have to be accompanied by whatever visuals were in the movie it was used in as an aide to set the proper mood.
But I think, that short of any rap outside of Bone Thugs and Tupac that I will occasionally still listen to, that Battle Flag by Lo Fi All-Stars is probably the closest thing to a song without melody that I actually enjoy.
I'm not very familiar with Billie Elish's work, but he put a few of her songs in there. The one song he put in there that I do remember grabbing my attention while I was at work one night was Taylor Swift's "Look What You Made Me Do". Though that's not a song I have on my mp3 player, I did kind of like it the few times I'd hear it at work and was surprised that it was Swift when I finally remembered to look it up.
He says in the song that the verse had 3 notes. The lead-up to the chorus has 2 notes, and the chorus uses 0 notes.
I think a song like this can be interesting and grab your attention when it's different than most of the songs around it, but I can't help but feel that in a different (future?) world where all the music coming out has extremely minimal melody that a song like this would be immediately forgotten 3 weeks later after it stopped getting radio play and was replaced by the next similar sounding song.
I'm thinking a lot about this now because I have noticed that when I go outside to work in the garage and listen to the radio and get exposed to new music, almost none of it grabs my attention at all, but then some come around that REALLY grab it like the Fire For You song I posted a few days ago and the songs I posted the last year or two in Brenda's Muzik threads.
I guess I'm trying to figure out "why" certain new songs grab my attention (even if I ultimately wouldn't listen to them a lot, like Swift's song), or I end up REALLY liking them like "Fire For You" or this one...
Trampoline, by Shaed
OR
Take Me to Church, by Hozier
Trampoline and Take Me To Church have plenty of melody. Look What You Made Me Do has almost none. Yet, even though I really love Fire for You, many parts of the song I think are closer to Look What You Made Me Do in terms of the amount of melody there is in the song.
Sorry if I'm rambling. It's all just interesting to me why I like some music, and I'm completely indifferent to other music.
Though I wanted it to be simple and be able to say "I like music with melody", I don't think it's that simple at all. Not only does it appear that I enjoy some with very minimal melody, but I'm sure there's a ton of old music I could think of with plenty of melody that I'd never listen to outside of it being part of a movie or TV show.
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I little more on the "Hook"...
Here's a song I loved in high school and still have on my playlist today. It wasn't until sometime after high school that I actually really listened to the words and understood it, and that's probably why I still like it so much more than the vocals or instruments.
The lyrics are priceless because he's poking fun at ME and anybody else listening to the song and enjoying it.... "The hook brings you back"
Blues Traveler was certainly nicer about their ribbing the audience than Kurt Cobain was... (That dude straight up hated his fans)...
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I used to listen to video game music while reviewing data packages
My favorites are
Two Steps from Hell (2:52:48) and
I'll Come Back (2:56:00) which follows
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Love me some good video game music. Seriously underrated category of music that is starting to only now really starting to get recognized.
Good songs.
What do you mean by "reviewing data packages"?
I heard one I hadn't heard in a long time on a youtube video but I immediately remembered it from my time spent playing Castlevania: Curse of Darkness on the original XBOX. The Castlevania series has has fantastic music since the original 80's game and ranks among my favorite collection of video game soundtracks along with the Final Fantasy series.
Nothing like a great soundtrack to really get you into a game. Songs like this, IMO are so good that they kind of ruin all but the best ones out there.
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So SIX, having gone thru your last six posts, I don't think it's melody or chord progression or rhythm that catches you, I think it's lyrics.
Yes, it has to be listenable too, but listenable songs without interesting lyrics are kinda blah.
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Oh... Since I'm doing Castlevania I have to do this. It might be my favorite Castlevania song. It's certainly the most chill one they've put on offer that I've ever heard.
I really love how the beginning of a lot of these songs are unique and never get repeated, with the looping section coming sometime after the intro to the song.
Beautiful.

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Yes, it is beautiful.
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BRENDA: Son of the Sun
I.like it. He has a really clean voice too.
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I mentioned but never posted the link
Maenam, from the videogame Braid.
It's not what you might think.
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So SIX, having gone thru your last six posts, I don't think it's melody or chord progression or rhythm that catches you, I think it's lyrics.
Yes, it has to be listenable too, but listenable songs without interesting lyrics are kinda blah.
True, to an extent at least... If it were only lyrics I were interested in, it wouldn't explain my love for video game music. There have been songs in VGM over the years with lyrics, but those have usually been pretty bad if you don't include Japanese lyrics songs. I mean, those lyrics could be pretty bad too, but I wouldn't know.

I think with the examples I was posting above I was going slightly out of my way to give examples of songs with more interesting lyrics.
It's always nice though when a catchy song keeps me listening long enough to realize that it's got good lyrics too.
Like my favorite Weird Al song.

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Quote:Before I retired I ran a rather large section of chemists who analyzed pollution samples and products to see if they complied with our district's rules and regs, or for pollution research or method development. Sometimes the analyses were simple, like "solids content" (analyzed by drying. Altho even THAT had its complications, because some samples contained slow-drying oils that never reached a definitive endpoint, so we had to use other methods.) Sometimes the analyses were quite complicated, for example when we were analyzing for "toxics metals" (there are a lot of those!) or "volatile organic content" (even MORE of those!) at the part per million or part per billion level, requiring advanced instrumentation and detailed, exacting work.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Love me some good video game music. Seriously underrated category of music that is starting to only now really starting to get recognized.
Good songs.
What do you mean by "reviewing data packages"?
In fact, one of our analyses ... one that we developed in the lab ... turned out to be basically the same procedure that international labs use to analyze for chemical weapons, and got one of our chemists a job back in her native country of Finland, where she is now Lab Director for chemical weapons.
But I digress...
Since our analyses would sometimes get involved in costly litigation with deep-pocket industries (think ExxonMobil and Home Depot, for example) the data had to meet high quality assurance standards, and also be relatively easy to "unpack". So EVERYTHING there was to know about a sample -from its initial request, equipment preparation, chain of custody, moisture gain/content to its density to detailed analysis of sub-part-per-million toxics and final, signed report- was collected together in a "data package". The package needed to include the "who, what, when, where, how, and why" of every analysis- all pages signed and dated, all instrument printouts signed and dated, all calibrations referenced to calibration data etc.
I had to review them. And because we trained a lot of new people, I had to review them CLOSELY, and get back with ppl on things like: "You didn't sign this page" or "You mis-identified these peaks" or "Your blanks are too high". My all-time favorite? "Your components add up to 110%".
I put the "anal" into "analytical chemistry".
It was mind-numbing, tedious (but interesting!) work.
But that's one of the reasons why I kind of laugh when people talk about "evidence" or "audits" or "how much moisture is in the air" or even "how bureaucracy works" as if they know what they're talking about, and I don't. I know KIKI has similar experience, but while I have the 10,000-ft view, KIKI has that whole 30,000-ft interagency thing going. And KIKI is MUCH more knowledgeable about biochem and all things medical.
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
BRENDA: Son of the Sun
I.like it. He has a really clean voice too.
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He does. Unfortunately the group is no longer together.
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Quote:Oh, too bad.
Originally posted by Brenda:Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
BRENDA: Son of the Sun
I.like it. He has a really clean voice too.
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He does. Unfortunately the group is no longer together.
Has the lead singer continued with another group, do you know?
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:Quote:Before I retired I ran a rather large section of chemists who analyzed pollution samples and products to see if they complied with our district's rules and regs, or for pollution research or method development. Sometimes the analyses were simple, like "solids content" (analyzed by drying. Altho even THAT had its complications, because some samples contained slow-drying oils that never reached a definitive endpoint, so we had to use other methods.) Sometimes the analyses were quite complicated, for example when we were analyzing for "toxics metals" (there are a lot of those!) or "volatile organic content" (even MORE of those!) at the part per million or part per billion level, requiring advanced instrumentation and detailed, exacting work.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Love me some good video game music. Seriously underrated category of music that is starting to only now really starting to get recognized.
Good songs.
What do you mean by "reviewing data packages"?
In fact, one of our analyses ... one that we developed in the lab ... turned out to be basically the same procedure that international labs use to analyze for chemical weapons, and got one of our chemists a job back in her native country of Finland, where she is now Lab Director for chemical weapons.
But I digress...
Since our analyses would sometimes get involved in costly litigation with deep-pocket industries (think ExxonMobil and Home Depot, for example) the data had to meet high quality assurance standards, and also be relatively easy to "unpack". So EVERYTHING there was to know about a sample -from its initial request, equipment preparation, chain of custody, moisture gain/content to its density to detailed analysis of sub-part-per-million toxics and final, signed report- was collected together in a "data package". The package needed to include the "who, what, when, where, how, and why" of every analysis- all pages signed and dated, all instrument printouts signed and dated, all calibrations referenced to calibration data etc.
I had to review them. And because we trained a lot of new people, I had to review them CLOSELY, and get back with ppl on things like: "You didn't sign this page" or "You mis-identified these peaks" or "Your blanks are too high". My all-time favorite? "Your components add up to 110%".
I put the "anal" into "analytical chemistry".
It was mind-numbing, tedious (but interesting!) work.
But that's one of the reasons why I kind of laugh when people talk about "evidence" or "audits" or "how much moisture is in the air" or even "how bureaucracy works" as if they know what they're talking about, and I don't. I know KIKI has similar experience, but while I have the 10,000-ft view, KIKI has that whole 30,000-ft interagency thing going. And KIKI is MUCH more knowledgeable about biochem and all things medical.
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So how on earth did this lead you to finding good video game music?
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Not like a favorite of mine or anything, but I heard it on the radio the other day and a wave of nostalgia hit me. I didn't even remember that it was Selena who did the song until I looked it up with some of the words on the Tube.
It is a cute video from a different time. Girls her age when this song was made are putting out some pretty terrible shit these days.
If you want to feel even better, take a look at the comment section. There was a boatload of love for that girl.
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This one was in the recommended. Now THIS is a fantastic song. 
Not a big fan of her other stuff, but this one always got me. I love me a good violin.
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:Quote:Oh, too bad.
Originally posted by Brenda:Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
BRENDA: Son of the Sun
I.like it. He has a really clean voice too.
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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake
THUGR posts about Putin so much, he must be in love.
He does. Unfortunately the group is no longer together.
Has the lead singer continued with another group, do you know?
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If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake
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From what I can gather they are still performing just not together.
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Little classic Bryan Adams.
Vancouver guy.
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Oh, hey Jack - I just reposted one of your earlier posts that didn't autoload. But since it looks like all the links are slowing the page down, I broke up the link address so people can see it and play it for themselves, after taking out the extra spaces.
Celine Dion
OH - for anyone else - this goes nowhere. Don't use this link.
http// www. youtube.com/watch?v=HLeYvefzUFA
ACTUALLY - it redirects to wix logomaker, hitting the back button it goes to https://10.trackints.com/ .
Is this another one of your traps. JAck?
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Quote:Oh, I used to do reviews on a day when most of the lab was off (fewer interruptions) but the field techs worked every day of the week, and one of them gave me a thumb drive of his favorite music. I used to listen to it on my phone bc our IT people got the heebie-jeebies whenever they detected a thumb drive on the system.
SIX: So how on earth did this lead you to finding good video game music?
His was not exactly my kind of music, so I went looking online until I found a LOOOOONG video that I mostly liked. But I got the idea from him.
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Got a few favourites among the Beatles, so I will just post their titles as I don't want to take up too much space in the thread with videos.
Back in the USSR
I Saw Her Standing There
All You Need is Love
Revolution
She Loves You
I Wanna Hold Your Hand
Help
Blackbird
Do You Want to Know a Secret
Nowhere Man
When I'm 64
A Little Help from My Friends
Strawberry Fields
Here Comes the Sun
The Long and Winding Road
In My Life
My Guitar Gently Weeps
Ob-La-Di, Ob-La-Da
Hey Jude
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Little more Toby Keith
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When I was young I was taught to not like country music bc it was... well, country. But as I've gotten older I've also gotten to appreciate it, because it's about real stuff: life, loss, choices.
As I've mentioned, I really don't listen to music a lot. Usually when I'm doing something tedious that requires my eyes and hands, but not my ears, like kitchen work. So I kind of bumble around and have missed whole decades of music! Which is why I appreciate your choices: they introduce me to music I might not have otherwise known.
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Originally posted by 1KIKI:
Oh, hey Jack - I just reposted one of your earlier posts that didn't autoload. But since it looks like all the links are slowing the page down, I broke up the link address so people can see it and play it for themselves, after taking out the extra spaces.
Oops... Sorry. When I went to delete the "s" from https, I accidentally left that in and deleted the ":" instead. I just fixed it.
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OH - for anyone else - this goes nowhere. Don't use this link.
ACTUALLY - it redirects to wix logomaker, hitting the back button it goes to https://10.trackints.com/ .
Is this another one of your traps. JAck?
No. It's not. Wix, as far as I know is a legit website where you can create your own website for "free"... I'm sure there are strings.
"10.trackints.com" looks pretty damn suspicious though.
This really has me curious why the hell you'd be getting to either of those sites from a link here. Do you have malwarebytes installed? You should run a scan and make sure somebody else isn't redirecting you places you aren't trying to go.
Do none of my other videos post for you? That youtube link should work fine. I haven't laid any traps since the Roomba got banned. I certainly wouldn't put it in here with a bunch of friendlies.

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:Quote:Oh, I used to do reviews on a day when most of the lab was off (fewer interruptions) but the field techs worked every day of the week, and one of them gave me a thumb drive of his favorite music. I used to listen to it on my phone bc our IT people got the heebie-jeebies whenever they detected a thumb drive on the system.
SIX: So how on earth did this lead you to finding good video game music?
His was not exactly my kind of music, so I went looking online until I found a LOOOOONG video that I mostly liked. But I got the idea from him.
Oh... lol. Interesting. Thanks for filling in the blanks from A to Zed, because I wasn't following.

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
When I was young I was taught to not like country music bc it was... well, country. But as I've gotten older I've also gotten to appreciate it, because it's about real stuff: life, loss, choices.
As I've mentioned, I really don't listen to music a lot. Usually when I'm doing something tedious that requires my eyes and hands, but not my ears, like kitchen work. So I kind of bumble around and have missed whole decades of music! Which is why I appreciate your choices: they introduce me to music I might not have otherwise known.
I never got into country myself either. My stepdad listened to it but by that point my musical tastes had already been established and Country wasn't working for me.
I did, however, always love this song when it came up on his tape in the pickup truck.
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Final Fantasy has too many great songs to list...
A lot of their intense songs for tense parts are great, but my favorite usually is the chill music. You could really just put on all the chill FF music and fall asleep to it.
And I really love how so many talented artists have taken some of my favorite songs from the 80's and 90's that only had the limited capabilities of 8bit and 16bit machines and gave them proper orchestrial scores.

Final Fantasy IV "Boss Theme" ORIGINAL (Super Nintendo 1991):
Final Fantasy IV "Boss Theme" ORCHESTRAL COVER:
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EVOLUTION OF FINAL FANTASY PROLOGUE
Final Fantasy I "Prologue" ORIGINAL (8bit Nintendo Entertainment System 1986):
Same song as above but used in the 4th game 5 years later...
Final Fantasy IV "Prologue" ORIGINAL (16bit Super Nintendo 1991):
Final Fantasy IV "Prologue" ORCHESTRAL COVER:
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EVOLUTION OF FINAL FANTASY'S MAYOTA'S CAVE
Final Fantasy I "Mayota's Cave" (Nintendo Entertainment System 1986):
Final Fantasy I (Remake) "Mayota's Cave" (I believe this was a Playstation remake of the game in the early 2000's.)
Final Fantasy I "Mayota's Cave" COOL "TWINSTRUMENTAL" REMAKE:
Lot's of love for these 35 year old tunes.

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
When I was young I was taught to not like country music bc it was... well, country. But as I've gotten older I've also gotten to appreciate it, because it's about real stuff: life, loss, choices.
As I've mentioned, I really don't listen to music a lot. Usually when I'm doing something tedious that requires my eyes and hands, but not my ears, like kitchen work. So I kind of bumble around and have missed whole decades of music! Which is why I appreciate your choices: they introduce me to music I might not have otherwise known.
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If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake
THUGR posts about Putin so much, he must be in love.
Outside of my mother's love of Elvis and rock from the 50s the other music when I was growing up was country. Johnny Cash, Hank Snow, Wilf Carter and the like. My dad liked Wilf Carter and Hank Snow both of whom were Canadian. My mom it was Patsy Cline, Loretta Lyn, Tammy Wynnette, Johnny Cash, Marty Robbins.
Now for myself because I grew up surrounded by it all through high school and into my 20s and 30s, I couldn't stand it. But I started hearing Billy Ray Cyrus then Tim McGraw and decided their stuff wasn't too bad. Also Alabama and Alan Jackson.

As I've said I've been surrounded by it all my life from my mom and a friend of hers with classical. So my own tastes now run from classical to rock with just a tinge of metal.
So, I'm always glad to expand someone's musical knowledge.
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Here's another Don Williams
More my speed.
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Hey Jack - here's what (I think) happened to your link.
My router was in the early stages of what eventually became a catastrophic hardware failure. But for some reason, it was gagging on that link, and only that link, repeatedly doing the same wrong thing and redirecting me through the same wrong series of websites to end up at the same wrong place ...
... until after a few hours the router cascaded through a quick series of more random and global failures into not working at all.
So, that's why it looked like a bad link. (However, I haven't tried it again! just because ... superstitious, I guess.)
And that's why I haven't been here. I just got the new router delivered and set it up, and I'm back!
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Originally posted by 1KIKI:
Hey Jack - here's what (I think) happened to your link.
My router was in the early stages of what eventually became a catastrophic hardware failure. But for some reason, it was gagging on that link, and only that link, repeatedly doing the same wrong thing and redirecting me through the same wrong series of websites to end up at the same wrong place ...
... until after a few hours the router cascaded through a quick series of more random and global failures into not working at all.
So, that's why it looked like a bad link. (However, I haven't tried it again! just because ... superstitious, I guess.)
And that's why I haven't been here. I just got the new router delivered and set it up, and I'm back!
Welcome back.

That's some weird shit. I don't blame you for not trying it again.
Thanks for the update though.
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