***** Sound of Freedom
POSTED BY: JEWELSTAITEFAN
UPDATED: Tuesday, January 23, 2024 03:13
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SOF update. WW Gross is now $246,728,260
Chances it will hit $250 Million are now slim to none. It sure had a great run though.
Monday's Numbers (11/13):
1. Talk to Me - 2,022% (+0%)
2. Sound of Freedom - 1,703% (+7%)
3. M3GAN - 1,508% [FINAL]
4. Super Mario Bros - 1,362% [FINAL]
5. Insidious: The Red Door - 1,163% [FINAL]
6. Five Nights at Freddy's - 1,008% (+0%)
7. Barbie - 994% (+0%)
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SOF update. WW Gross is now $247,801,879
Although it still managed another $1.1 Million since my last update 9 days ago, chances that it will hit $250 Million are still slim to none.
Wednesday's Numbers (11/22):
1. Talk to Me - 2,044% (+22%)
2. Sound of Freedom - 1,710% (+7%)
3. M3GAN - 1,508% [FINAL]
4. Five Nights at Freddy's - 1,450% (+442%) *
5. Super Mario Bros - 1,362% [FINAL]
6. Insidious: The Red Door - 1,163% [FINAL]
7. Barbie - 994% (+0%)
*NOTE: Bruce didn't have numbers for the Production Budget before on FNAF, and since there were varying reports of the budget from $20M to $25M, I went with the $25M figure. The-Numbers.com now shows that FNAF's budget was only $20 Million. The increase for FNAF since last update was only +152% with the $25M PB figure, but now it's obviously much higher.
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It would appear that, so far, SoF has earned more than any other film in 2023 with a budget of $38M or less.
As it should.
Still the best film of the year, and of the last couple years.
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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
It would appear that, so far, SoF has earned more than any other film in 2023 with a budget of $38M or less.
As it should.
Still the best film of the year, and of the last couple years.
No.
Five Nights at Freddy's had a budget of $20 Million and has banked $295 Million worldwide. Once the international numbers come in for last week through the weekend it should be far ahead of M3GAN, over 1,508% of the budget.
I don't think it will get the $342 Million it would need to knock Sound of Freedom from 2nd place and get 1,711%, so it's probably safe from having FNAF beat it on the WW Gross vs. Production Budget chart, but FNAF has outgrossed SoF by $48 Million so far and after the internationals come in it will be way more than $50 Million.
If you were looking at my chart on the Hollywood 2023 thread, it hasn't been updated since Halloween. That's become about a once a month thing now because it's hours worth of work updating it on this ancient site.
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The old man just let me know that Sound of Freedom got another update on The-Numbers.com
https://www.the-numbers.com/movie/Sound-of-Freedom-(2023)#tab=summary
$249,152,645
I'll be damned. There's still a chance this things pulls off $250 Million worldwide.
I didn't see that coming.
It's got 1,717% of its budget right now.
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Bruce posting nothing for Germany or France. Judging by BOM, France might add another half Mill with the next update.
Spain doing better than UK.
Netherlands and Finland are impressive.
6ix continues to underestimate...
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To be fair, international reporting for SoF hasn't exactly been stellar.
BoxOfficeMojo only has $247,801,971 reported right now.
Bruce still has $13,142,678 in "Rest of World" that hasn't been allocated, so there's no guarantee that France and Germany haven't already been counted yet and all the international money is actually up to date.
But we're close enough where there could be some stray money coming in that hasn't yet been reported even though the movie has been available for streaming for nearly a month now.
Don't be surprised if you see the box office for SoF actually fall from one week to the next too. Super Mario Bros would rise a million one week and then fall a million the very next week and it bounced around for a few months. I don't ever expect huge Million dollar bounces for SoF since it made less than 1/5th of what SMB made worldwide, but I wouldn't be surprised to see it lose $200k in a week.
I wish Bruce would denote when a movie's numbers are actually FINAL.
I've noticed when updating my spreadsheet that sometimes a movie that hasn't changed for 6 months all the sudden has a change in worldwide gross. It's usually not too drastic that far out, but it always bothers me when a flick that exited theaters back in the first half of 2023 all the sudden has a different total. I might not actually be able to say that my 2023 list is final until July of next year.
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Quote:Hong Kong release date was 23 Nov. $71K in opening weekend in 1 city, ranked 7.
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
To be fair, international reporting for SoF hasn't exactly been stellar.
BoxOfficeMojo only has $247,801,971 reported right now.
Bruce still has $13,142,678 in "Rest of World" that hasn't been allocated, so there's no guarantee that France and Germany haven't already been counted yet and all the international money is actually up to date.
But we're close enough where there could be some stray money coming in that hasn't yet been reported even though the movie has been available for streaming for nearly a month now.
Don't be surprised if you see the box office for SoF actually fall from one week to the next too. Super Mario Bros would rise a million one week and then fall a million the very next week and it bounced around for a few months. I don't ever expect huge Million dollar bounces for SoF since it made less than 1/5th of what SMB made worldwide, but I wouldn't be surprised to see it lose $200k in a week.
I wish Bruce would denote when a movie's numbers are actually FINAL.
I've noticed when updating my spreadsheet that sometimes a movie that hasn't changed for 6 months all the sudden has a change in worldwide gross. It's usually not too drastic that far out, but it always bothers me when a flick that exited theaters back in the first half of 2023 all the sudden has a different total. I might not actually be able to say that my 2023 list is final until July of next year.
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Oct 31 for Spain.
26/27 Oct for Norway, Netherlands.
10 Nov for Germany, Austria.
25 Nov for France.
These are all still churning Box Office.
Your whining about exit dates from Domestic cinema remains moot.
I expect another half Million when those have their next update. Which is another 3.5% of PB, even if you can't math.
HK and France just had opening weekends. None of this is "stray money"
Actually, I expect $.4M - France,
$82K - Neth,
$70K - HK.
So, at least $552K more from the next update. Like 4% of PB. For 1 week.
$249,152K is 1,718% of $14.5M
$249,704K will be 1,722% of $14.5M
Right now BOM still shows $247,801,971. Bruce still shows $249,152,645 with rest at $13,087,920.
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My whining? I can't math?
Who the fuck do you think you are?
Let's talk about your bullshit predictions when this went international, buddy.
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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN (August 29th):
I have "targets" that I expect from International, due to various factors. These are a reminder for me. They are likely to be wrong.
$14 M for UK
$7 M for Mexico, Australia, Brazil
$5 M for Peru
$3 M from NZ, Colombia, Argentina
Yeah. You got the part about being wrong correct.
Actual numbers:
UK: $2,648,583
Mexico: $11,732,447
Australia: 3,281,697
Brazil: $3,795,789
Peru: $2,906,541
New Zealand: $864,218
Columbia: $4,934,532
Argentina: $3,583,569
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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack (September 3rd):
JSF's $14 Million dollar prediction for the UK was insanely optimistic. I'm guessing more like $2 Million. Maybe $3 Million if it's really lucky.
Gee. I'm right again. How does that happen so often?
Then you asked me this question, all the way back on September 14th:
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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN (September 14th):
6ix, You have mentioned the ratio of Domestic Box office vs. International for several films.
Do you have thoughts on what the ratio will be for Sound of Freedom?
Define the details and parameters as you wish.
To which I answered on the same day...
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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack (September 14th):
Well... I'm not quite sure how things are going to look Internationally when it's done. I still don't know what countries it will be releasing in that it hasn't already besides Brazil and Spain, and it appears it's getting new countries all the time.
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I believe that the floor for this movie Worldwide is $230 Million now, with $250 Million possible though unlikely.
At $185 Million domestic rounding up and $230 Worldwide, that's 80.4% Domestic / 19.6% International.
If it manages $250 Million worldwide, that's 74% Domestic / 26% International.
And where's it at right now? 73.9% Domestic / 26.1% International.
You're quibbling over $1 Million here, give or take $500k at the very end of the worldwide box office run.
Meanwhile, nearly all of my box office predictions have been pretty much spot on all year long, like when I said Blue Beetle was going to make $128 Million worldwide after opening weekend and its final WW numbers ended up being $128,772,124 eleven weeks after my prediction.
And at the end of the day I HOPE SOF MAKES $250 MILLION WORLDWIDE.
I've always been rooting for this movie, but I'm not a cultist on either side and my underestimations here have been validated due to the constant terrible cycle of all parties involved when it comes to international reporting being chronically late and not at all typical of movies that make this kind of money worldwide.
I treated SoF like I treated any other movie out there. Another example of my non-partisanship when it comes to these predictions can be seen in the Songbirds and Snakes Failure Thread. Very early on, once I realized the Production Budget was only $100 Million I stated I had reservations of that one being a flop, and even though Whozit was still calling it a flop after a less than stellar opening weekend I was even less convinced that it was going to flop. And now fast forward 8 or 9 days later and it looks like at least $300 Million worldwide is an inevitability for that movie.
None of the dipshit youtubers out there that dunk on movies all day long came back and said "Whoops. I made a mistake". That's not good for their branding. They just went right on to dunking on Disney's Wish and pretending that Songbirds and Snakes never happened.
I own my mistakes with my predictions. All of them.
But when SoF got a small update to only $247 Million+ a few weeks ago and it looked like it wasn't going to hit $250 Million, that's not somet
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Quote:Netherlands added 61K, according to BOM.
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN (30 Nov):Quote:Hong Kong release date was 23 Nov. $71K in opening weekend in 1 city, ranked 7.
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
BoxOfficeMojo only has $247,801,971 reported right now.
Bruce still has $13,142,678 in "Rest of World" that hasn't been allocated, so there's no guarantee that France and Germany haven't already been counted yet and all the international money is actually up to date.
Don't be surprised if you see the box office for SoF actually fall from one week to the next too. Super Mario Bros would rise a million one week and then fall a million the very next week and it bounced around for a few months. I don't ever expect huge Million dollar bounces for SoF since it made less than 1/5th of what SMB made worldwide, but I wouldn't be surprised to see it lose $200k in a week.
Oct 31 for Spain.
26/27 Oct for Norway, Netherlands.
10 Nov for Germany, Austria.
25 Nov for France.
These are all still churning Box Office.
I expect another half Million when those have their next update. Which is another 3.5% of PB, even if you can't math.
HK and France just had opening weekends. None of this is "stray money"
Actually, I expect $.4M - France,
$82K - Neth,
$70K - HK.
So, at least $552K more from the next update. Like 4% of PB. For 1 week.
$249,152K is 1,718% of $14.5M
$249,704K will be 1,722% of $14.5M
Right now BOM still shows $247,801,971. Bruce still shows $249,152,645 with rest at $13,087,920.
Hong Kong added 69K.
France looks like it added what I predicted, but is unclear because they screwed up the figures at BOM. It does show an increase in number of theaters every week.
Bruce does now show "rest" reflecting these 3 Box office updates, so he is not including them yet.
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