***** Sound of Freedom
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Quote:Not quite. You did add some extra $$ in there.
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack: $230,684,308 is the new worldwide total there, up from $210,799,928 last night, for an additional $19,884,380.Quote:We know. I already posted that.
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
On 29 Sep, Bruce updated Croatis, and BOM changed nothing.
On 2 Oct Bruce updated NZ, Australia. BOM changed nothing.
On 3 Oct Bruce updated Mexico, but the totals remained the same as 13 September.
BOM updated Croatia.
Today, Bruce added a buttload of new countries/territories, and added over $19.136M to the International Total.
Anyway, some interesting things there. Both Bruce and BOM had huge updates that day. Most of the time, these 2 sources do not have the same data or figures displayed. They almost never agree.
So this was a somewhat unique window of opportunity to see some things.
Bruce added West Africa and Azerbaijan, which BOM still does not list.
Bruce also lists South Africa, and also South Africa/others Africa. I have never seen clear info about whether these are nation of South Africa, or continent of South Africa, grouped with West Africa, or some combination of these. I think the entry of South Africa/Others Africa as well as South Africa were both present in Bruce's figures, but only the South Africa entry got updated - at either site.
The following countries had exactly the same figure displayed at both The Numbers and Box Office Mojo on 4 October:
Argentina, Bolivia, Brazil, Chile, Colombia, Costa Rica, Croatia, Ecuador, El Salvador, Guatemala, Honduras, Kuwait, Nicaragua, Oman, Panama, Paraguay, Peru, Russia, Saudi Arabia, UAE, UK, Uruguay, Venezualea.
Taiwan had $1 less with Bruce than BOM.
At BOM, Croatia had $266,588 on 3 Oct, then $246,464 on 4 Oct, and then Bruce updated to $266,836 on 6 Oct.
Bruce matched the figure from BOM's 28 Sept display for Iceland.
Bruce matched the figures from BOM's 27 Sept display for Poland, Slovenia.
Bruce matched the figures from BOM's 26 Sept display for Lithuania, South Africa.
Bruce matched the figure from BOM's 16 Sept display for Serbia.
As of 4 Oct, BOM did not have a sole, unique nation listed which Bruce did not.
Taiwan was a new entry for both, having just opened.
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Updating:
Sound of Freedom International Box Office.
I think I need to start a new table for this. Data is hard to come by, is not transparent, and seems to fluctuate a bunch. I will need to use Box Office Mojo for source data, and work from there. If other data becomes available, I will try to reconcile that.
Legend:
Each nation's entry is comprised of 2 lines.
In the first Identifier places, the order is by the stated Release Date. Next is the Country Abbreviation.
In the line below that, the Maximum number of theaters I could find for a film in that country. Then the day which they start their weekend, according to their Box Office Results. This is either Thursday or Friday.
The remainder of the columns have weekday figures in the top line, and weekend figures in the 2nd line, plus the subtotals.
The column labeled Date Range has the range of dates for those figures.
Next column is Box Office for those dates.
Next is the Rank of that Box Office figure.
Next is Theater Count.
Next is $ per Theater Average.
Next is the Rank of the $ per Theater figure.
Next is the Total, for weekdays only.
Next is the 7 Day Totals, which is both lines added together.
Next is the Rank of that 7 Day Total Box Office (when available, or calculated).
Next is the Cumulative Total for that Country.
Then are selected figures from the Prior week, to reference for comparison.
Data is culled from Box Office Mojo. Countries with Asterisks are using data from The Numbers - mostly because that data is not available on BOM.
Fields highlighted green are values greater than the prior week. Box Office, rank, theater count, $ per theater, rank, weekly total or subtotal.
Figures highlighted red are intended to be placeholders for fields which are waiting for updated or current data.
Week of 11-17 September:
Nation0 DateRng _____________________This Week______________________ ___________Last Week___________
Rel Thtr Weekdy BoxOffc Rk Thtr $ per Rnk Total 0 7 Day Rnk Cummultv BoxOffc Rk Thtr 7 Day Cummultiv
Dte Cont Weeknd00000000000 Cnt Theatr0000Weekday SbTotal0000Total BO00000000000 Cnt SbTotal0Total BO
18A Icel 11-14S 00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000
000014/F 15-17S $ 2,454 #9 0 1 $2,454 #50000000000000000000 $ 69,742000000000000000000000000$ 57,465
17A UAE- 11-13S $66,148 __ ___ $_____ __ $66,14800000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000
000200/T 14-17S $63,823 #7 015 $4,254 #400000000 129,971 __ $729,2610000000000000000111,421 $599,290
18A SAfr 11-14S $15,020 __ 053 $0 283 __ $15,02000000000000000000000 $ 8,786 __ 062 0000000
000117/F 15-17S $13,893 #6 044 $0 315 #6 00000000$28,913 __ $326,451 $21,650 #5 053 $30,436 $297,538
18A Lith 11-14S00000000000000000000000000000
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Quote:
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:Quote:Not quite. You did add some extra $$ in there.
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack: $230,684,308 is the new worldwide total there, up from $210,799,928 last night, for an additional $19,884,380.Quote:We know. I already posted that.
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
On 29 Sep, Bruce updated Croatis, and BOM changed nothing.
On 2 Oct Bruce updated NZ, Australia. BOM changed nothing.
On 3 Oct Bruce updated Mexico, but the totals remained the same as 13 September.
BOM updated Croatia.
Today, Bruce added a buttload of new countries/territories, and added over $19.136M to the International Total.
Incorrect.
From October 4th, exactly 90 minutes before your post:
Quote:
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Well... I know I said I wasn't following it anymore, but I misspoke. I just wasn't going to be doing daily updates anymore since most days there was nothing to update and the $15 Million added to Talk To Me not only gave it the undeniable 1st place finish without any competition but proved that all the speculation in the world about an indie movie's worldwide finish is just a complete waste of time.
But it would appear that there IS something to report today.
The-Numbers finally got a massive update to Sound of Freedom that was a long time coming.
$230,684,308 is the new worldwide total there, up from $210,799,928 last night, for an additional $19,884,380.
Back on September 12th I boldly made the following claim (and even underlined it):Quote:
Sound of Freedom is now a $230 Million movie. That's the absolute bottom going forward. This will put it up close to 1,600% with the $14.5 Million budget figure. If it somehow manages $240 Million, that would be over 1650%.
So there you go...
Sound of Freedom's Worldwide Box Office vs. Production Budget is now 1,593%, rounding up to $231 Million.
Your number of $19.136M was low too. It was an addition of $19,884,380 and I have the archived links to show it.
Quote:
Anyway, some interesting things there. Both Bruce and BOM had huge updates that day. Most of the time, these 2 sources do not have the same data or figures displayed. They almost never agree.
So this was a somewhat unique window of opportunity to see some things.
Bruce added West Africa and Azerbaijan, which BOM still does not list.
Bruce also lists South Africa, and also South Africa/others Africa. I have never seen clear info about whether these are nation of South Africa, or continent of South Africa, grouped with West Africa, or some combination of these. I think the entry of South Africa/Others Africa as well as South Africa were both present in Bruce's figures, but only the South Africa entry got updated - at either site.
The following countries had exactly the same figure displayed at both The Numbers and Box Office Mojo on 4 October:
Argentina, Bolivia, Brazil, Chile, Colombia, Costa Rica, Croatia, Ecuador, El Salvador, Guatemala, Honduras, Kuwait, Nicaragua, Oman, Panama, Paraguay, Peru, Russia, Saudi Arabia, UAE, UK, Uruguay, Venezualea.
Taiwan had $1 less with Bruce than BOM.
At BOM, Croatia had $266,588 on 3 Oct, then $246,464 on 4 Oct, and then Bruce updated to $266,836 on 6 Oct.
Bruce matched the figure from BOM's 28 Sept display for Iceland.
Bruce matched the figures from BOM's 27 Sept display for Poland, Slovenia.
Bruce matched the figures from BOM's 26 Sept display for Lithuania, South Africa.
Bruce matched the figure from BOM's 16 Sept display for Serbia.
As of 4 Oct, BOM did not have a sole, unique nation listed which Bruce did not.
Taiwan was a new entry for both, having just opened.
It will be interesting to see how high it goes.
I've upped the floor to $235 Million, giving $240 Million a 50/50 shot. $240 Million is a long shot, and $250 is probably just dreaming.
Really tho
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Saturday/Sunday Numbers (10/09):
1. Talk to Me - 1,978% (+22%)
2. Sound of Freedom - 1,593% (+0)
3. M3GAN - 1,508% [FINAL]
4. Super Mario Bros - 1,361% [FINAL]
5. Insidious: The Red Door - 1,163% [FINAL]
6. Barbie - 989% (+0)
SoF needs 385% to beat Talk to Me. (About $57 Million --- Never going to happen)
NOTES:
No new information on Sound of Freedom since the near $20 Million dump early last week.
BoxOfficeMojo shows $88,607,317 for Talk To Me. The-Numbers still only shows $67,332,550. I'm basing this off of BOM's numbers. (With the $67 Million from The-Numbers, it's only at 1,489% still).
Talk To Me's Domestic numbers are up-to-date through Sunday. It only pulled in around $70k this weekend.
Talk To Me is only $900k away from being the exclusive member of the 2,000% Club.
Barbie pulled in $782k this weekend Domestic in 808 theaters. It should have gotten a bump, but it's likely that a retraction of some international numbers brought it back down. Not good news when next weekend will be the first time it makes less than half a million. I still have zero clue if Barbie will join the 1,000% Club. My gut tells me that it won't, but it's still possible depending on how international numbers come out in the end.
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Also, on BOM about 4 October, Nigeria disappeared.
And since then, UAE changed from $801,158 to $812,758 without apparent changes to totals.
And Colombia changed from $4,394,532 to $4,345,459, also without accompanying changes.
I was not able to grab the weekly data from those 2 before they shifted.
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On September 14th, I was asked this question:
Quote:
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
6ix, You have mentioned the ratio of Domestic Box office vs. International for several films.
Do you have thoughts on what the ratio will be for Sound of Freedom?
Define the details and parameters as you wish.
For guidance, pedophiles and groomers have incessantly railed that Domestic BO for this film WILL NOT translate to International Box Office.
To which I replied:
Quote:
Well... I'm not quite sure how things are going to look Internationally when it's done. I still don't know what countries it will be releasing in that it hasn't already besides Brazil and Spain, and it appears it's getting new countries all the time.
Also, I didn't know that those 17 Latino countries it released in alongside of Mexico were all 2 weeks ago instead of only 1 week, so that would lower their future take from what I initially thought they would get.
I think the US Box Office is just about done, with it getting $45k on Monday and only $52k on Cheap Seat Tuesday. Likely less than a Million from the US going forward before it's pulled out of theaters. If it's lucky, it will get $185 Million in the US before it's gone, but I kind of doubt that.
I believe that the floor for this movie Worldwide is $230 Million now, with $250 Million possible though unlikely.
At $185 Million domestic rounding up and $230 Worldwide, that's 80.4% Domestic / 19.6% International.
If it manages $250 Million worldwide, that's 74% Domestic / 26% International.
October 4th:
Quote:
Pretty close to accurate so far...
As I suspected back then, SoF is not going to get up to $185 Million Domestic by rounding up. Currently, it is now only $7,700 away from $184 Million, but with it grossing only $6k on Monday and $10k on Cheap Seat Tuesday and only playing in 125 theaters nationwide this week, its run is all but dead here. If it even remains in theaters next week, it's not likely to make much more than $25-$35k over the weekend, or about $50k additional maximum above the updates that Bruce had last night.
Despite that, we've reached $230,953,510 worldwide already anyhow, leaving us currently at 79.67% Domestic / 20.33% International. (Real numbers, not rounding)
I believe that $235 Million is the floor for SoF now. That would be 78.30% Domestic / 21.70% International.
If it hits $240 Million (I'm 50/50 on this), we're at 76.67% Domestic / 23.33% International.
If it somehow still manages $250 (which I highly doubt), we're at 73.6% Domestic / 26.4% International.
New The-Numbers Archive for SoF (10/10): https://archive.ph/lMZKl
Worldwide Total (10/10): $235,177,517 (+$4,493,209 from 10/04)
Australia: +$59,230
Croatia: +$20,372
Iceland (New): +$73,552
Kuwait (New): +$187,005
Lithuania (New): +$41,914
New Zealand: +13,458
Nicaragua: (New): +$198,506
Oman: (New): +$57,240
Panama: (New): +$878,772
Paraguay: (New): +$193,921
Peru: (New): +$2,906,541
Poland: (New): +$252,850
Russia: $45,373
Saudi Arabia: (New): +$2,012,189
Serbia and Montenegro: (New): +$29,526
Slovenia: (New): +$59,954
South Africa: (New): +$360,077
South Africa / Others Africa: (New): +$276,058
Taiwan: (New): +$148,089
United Arab Emerates: (New): +$801,158
United Kingdom: +$170,268
Uruguay: (New): +$390,253
Venezuela: (New): +$403,280
West Africa: (New): +$5,452
"Rest of World" is now at $3,342,490. It appears that when I took an archive of the update on 10/04, Bruce didn't have the Rest of World row. He may have added it back in the days following, but I didn't capture it. So I can't say how much that went up or down after this new update.
So we've got our $235 Million Worldwide Gross floor.
Will $240 Million be next?
The Domestic Box Office got updated through the weekend and is nothing, just like I knew it would be. Just about $21k in only 70 theaters
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Monday Numbers (10/09):
1. Talk to Me - 1,978% (+0%)
2. Sound of Freedom - 1,621% (+28%)
3. M3GAN - 1,508% [FINAL]
4. Super Mario Bros - 1,361% [FINAL]
5. Insidious: The Red Door - 1,163% [FINAL]
6. Barbie - 992% (+3%)
SoF needs 358% to beat Talk to Me. (About $52 Million --- Never going to happen)
NOTES:
Nearly $4.5 Million update at The-Numbers from yesterday. BOM has not yet recorded this update.
BoxOfficeMojo shows $88,607,317 for Talk To Me. The-Numbers still only shows $68,065,414. I'm basing this off of BOM's numbers. (With the $68 Million from The-Numbers, it's only at 1,511% still).
Talk To Me's Domestic numbers are up-to-date through Sunday. It only pulled in around $70k this weekend.
Talk To Me is only $900k away from being the exclusive member of the 2,000% Club (Per BoxOfficeMojo's tally).
Barbie did finally get its bump. Several of them, in fact. Barbie has been projected to pull in another $160k on Monday, although this money didn't help with the bump when rounding up.
Barbie now only needs 8% to get into the 1,000% club this year.
But despite many claims to the contrary earlier this year, I doubt very much that it will beat last year's Top Gun Maverick worldwide. It would need to make more than $1,473,981,629 to do that.
Its chances of making the $12.33 Million it needs to get in the 1,000% club are still an international reporting coin-flip right now. I don't see how it could ever make another $24 Million on top of that at this point in the run.
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This is good enough to be posted twice since it is more interesting than ticket sales for a movie that is no better than a three part extended episode of Law & Order - Special Victims Unit.
Quote:Tim Ballard, who inspired 'Sound of Freedom' movie, sued by 5 women for sexual assault
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
#BelieveNoWomen
Going after Russell Brand with bogus rape allegations isn't enough. Now they're going after Tim Ballard too.
Fuck child rapist Democrats. Fuck the lying legacy media.
Just ignore these sick motherfuckers. That's all they deserve in 2023 and going forward.
The lawsuit comes a month after it was publicly revealed that Ballard had resigned from his nonprofit after he was accused of coercing women on missions.
6ix, you are rotten to claim it is a lie without knowing anything other than you want it to be a lie.
Oct. 10, 2023, 4:09 PM CDT
By Minyvonne Burke
Five women have sued Tim Ballard, whose life experiences rescuing children from sex traffickers inspired the movie “Sound of Freedom,” accusing him of sexual assault and battery.
The lawsuit, filed Monday in the Third Judicial Court of Utah, comes a month after it was publicly revealed that Ballard had resigned from the nonprofit child rescue group he founded, Operation Underground Railroad, or O.U.R.
Ballard was under investigation by an outside firm hired by O.U.R. for allegedly coercing at least seven women to act like “wives” while on overseas missions — an allegation he has denied.
Ballard, a former Homeland Security agent, could not immediately be reached for comment on Tuesday. Last month, he dismissed allegations against him as “false.”
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/tim-ballard-inspired-sound-freedo
m-movie-sued-5-women-sexual-assault-rcna119732
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Quote:Tim Ballard, who inspired 'Sound of Freedom' movie, sued by 5 women for sexual assault
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack on Tuesday, September 19, 2023 10:32 PM:
#BelieveNoWomen
Going after Russell Brand with bogus rape allegations isn't enough. Now they're going after Tim Ballard too.
Fuck child rapist Democrats. Fuck the lying legacy media.
Just ignore these sick motherfuckers. That's all they deserve in 2023 and going forward.
The lawsuit comes a month after it was publicly revealed that Ballard had resigned from his nonprofit after he was accused of coercing women on missions.
6ix, you are rotten to claim it is a lie without knowing anything other than you want it to be a lie.
Oct. 10, 2023, 4:09 PM CDT
By Minyvonne Burke
Five women have sued Tim Ballard, whose life experiences rescuing children from sex traffickers inspired the movie “Sound of Freedom,” accusing him of sexual assault and battery.
The lawsuit, filed Monday in the Third Judicial Court of Utah, comes a month after it was publicly revealed that Ballard had resigned from the nonprofit child rescue group he founded, Operation Underground Railroad, or O.U.R.
Ballard was under investigation by an outside firm hired by O.U.R. for allegedly coercing at least seven women to act like “wives” while on overseas missions — an allegation he has denied.
Ballard, a former Homeland Security agent, could not immediately be reached for comment on Tuesday. Last month, he dismissed allegations against him as “false.”
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/tim-ballard-inspired-sound-freedo
m-movie-sued-5-women-sexual-assault-rcna119732
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Quote:
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
On September 14th, I was asked this question:Quote:
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
6ix, You have mentioned the ratio of Domestic Box office vs. International for several films.
Do you have thoughts on what the ratio will be for Sound of Freedom?
Define the details and parameters as you wish.
For guidance, pedophiles and groomers have incessantly railed that Domestic BO for this film WILL NOT translate to International Box Office.
To which I replied:Quote:
Well... I'm not quite sure how things are going to look Internationally when it's done. I still don't know what countries it will be releasing in that it hasn't already besides Brazil and Spain, and it appears it's getting new countries all the time.
Also, I didn't know that those 17 Latino countries it released in alongside of Mexico were all 2 weeks ago instead of only 1 week, so that would lower their future take from what I initially thought they would get.
I think the US Box Office is just about done, with it getting $45k on Monday and only $52k on Cheap Seat Tuesday. Likely less than a Million from the US going forward before it's pulled out of theaters. If it's lucky, it will get $185 Million in the US before it's gone, but I kind of doubt that.
I believe that the floor for this movie Worldwide is $230 Million now, with $250 Million possible though unlikely.
At $185 Million domestic rounding up and $230 Worldwide, that's 80.4% Domestic / 19.6% International.
If it manages $250 Million worldwide, that's 74% Domestic / 26% International.
October 4th:Quote:
Pretty close to accurate so far...
As I suspected back then, SoF is not going to get up to $185 Million Domestic by rounding up. Currently, it is now only $7,700 away from $184 Million, but with it grossing only $6k on Monday and $10k on Cheap Seat Tuesday and only playing in 125 theaters nationwide this week, its run is all but dead here. If it even remains in theaters next week, it's not likely to make much more than $25-$35k over the weekend, or about $50k additional maximum above the updates that Bruce had last night.
Despite that, we've reached $230,953,510 worldwide already anyhow, leaving us currently at 79.67% Domestic / 20.33% International. (Real numbers, not rounding)
I believe that $235 Million is the floor for SoF now. That would be 78.30% Domestic / 21.70% International.
If it hits $240 Million (I'm 50/50 on this), we're at 76.67% Domestic / 23.33% International.
If it somehow still manages $250 (which I highly doubt), we're at 73.6% Domestic / 26.4% International.
New The-Numbers Archive for SoF (10/10): https://archive.ph/lMZKl
Worldwide Total (10/10): $235,177,517 (+$4,493,209 from 10/04)
Australia: +$59,230
Croatia: +$20,372
Iceland (New): +$73,552
Kuwait (New): +$187,005
Lithuania (New): +$41,914
New Zealand: +13,458
Nicaragua: (New): +$198,506
Oman: (New): +$57,240
Panama: (New): +$878,772
Paraguay: (New): +$193,921
Peru: (New): +$2,906,541
Poland: (New): +$252,850
Russia: $45,373
Saudi Arabia: (New): +$2,012,189
Serbia and Montenegro: (New): +$29,526
Slovenia: (New): +$59,954
South Africa: (New): +$360,077
South Africa / Others Africa: (New): +$276,058
Taiwan: (New): +$148,089
United Arab Emerates: (New): +$801,158
United Kingdom: +$170,268
Uruguay: (New): +$390,253
Venezuela: (New): +$403,280
West Africa: (New): +$5,452
"Rest of World" is now at $3,342,490. It appears that when I took an archive of the update on 10/04, Bruce didn't have the Rest of World row. He may have added it back in the days following, but I didn't capture it. So I can't say how much that went up or down after this new update.
So we've got our $235 Million Worldwide Gross floor.
Will $240 Million be next?
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