***** Sound of Freedom
POSTED BY: JEWELSTAITEFAN
UPDATED: Tuesday, January 23, 2024 03:13
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Quote:The movie was no more expensive to make than episodes of Law & Order - Special Victims Unit. I believe the real Production Budget is much lower than the $14,500,000 reported. What happened to the difference between the real budget and the reported budget? That money was embezzled as to be expected when Trumptards are around. Crooks have got to lie and steal. It is in their DNA and culture. For further examples, see the original Trump for how that happens.
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
OK pedo.
https://www.the-numbers.com/movie/Sound-of-Freedom-(2023)#tab=summary
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Originally posted by second:Quote:The movie was no more expensive to make than episodes of Law & Order - Special Victims Unit. I believe the real Production Budget is much lower than the $14,500,000 reported. What happened to the difference between the real budget and the reported budget? That money was embezzled as to be expected when Trumptards are around. Crooks have got to lie and steal. It is in their DNA and culture. For further examples, see the original Trump for how that happens.
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
OK pedo.
https://www.the-numbers.com/movie/Sound-of-Freedom-(2023)#tab=summary
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
Like when Disney said the 6 episodes of Secret Invasion cost 35.3 Million each to make?
You're the one always talking about Hollywood Accounting when defending Disney trash.
I don't think any Trumptards were involved in producing or marketing that woke turd.
But if you have evidence that Sound of Freedom cost less than $14.5 Million to create I invite you to share it. It doesn't look like it's going to beat Talk To Me in the Production Budget vs. Worldwide Gross unless the budget was less than we think it was.
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Quote:I have their motive to lie about Sound of Freedom cost. They cheated their thousands of investors because Trumptards, when around a pot of money, can't help but steal some of it by lying about how much the movie cost to make. From the credits:
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
But if you have evidence that Sound of Freedom cost less than $14.5 Million to create I invite you to share it. It doesn't look like it's going to beat Talk To Me in the Production Budget vs. Worldwide Gross unless the budget was less than we think it was.
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Thanks to the thousands of Angel Investors that helped bring Sound of Freedom to theaters
Tim Aagard • Sara Aarhus • Abano Family • Aaron Abbott • Angela Abbott • Lisa A. Abbott • Mona Ables • James Abney • Paul & Jan Abney • Ajish P. & Sonia Abraham • Eli Abraham • The Abraham Sewill Family • Will & Shannon Abrams • Abrego Family • Lance Ackerman • Ackerson Family • Boris Salazar Acn • Acuna Family • Nicola Adam • Robert “Bob" Adamd • Otilia Adame • Colby & Mckenzi Adams • Amy & Jerry Adams • Bill & Lea Adams • Chef Eddie Adams • Janet A. Adams • Jocelyn Adams • Mckenzey Adams • Victoria Adams • William Colby Adams • Scott & Pam Adamson • Cathy Den Adel • Lee & Marcia Adelman • Sam & Jess Adelmann • Iliana Adler • Anna & Mj Afffleck • Affleck Family • Brian & Rosemary Agee • Shannon Agens • Jennifer Agger • Paola Aguilar & Noe Romero Family • Abigail Aguilera • Aguilera Family • Esther Agyin • Chris & Rachel Ah Sue • Kimberly Thompson Ahern • Elisabeth & Paul Ahlstrom • Jacquelyn Airhart • Amy Akers • Amy Aki • Samuel Alameda • Magda Alarcon • Eric Wayne "Pesci" Alberry • Jonelvy Vargas Alberto • R & S Alcaraz • Tim & Sandi Aldridge • Anthony A. Alexander • Craig & Pam Alexander • Jennifer Alford • All The Saints. • Allegro Family • Bill Allen • Allen Family • Jennifer D. Allen • Kimberly Allen • Pat & Laura Allen • Romay Allen • Dave Van Allen Sr. • Pete Alley • Jenna & Josh Allison • Alios Family • Michael Shane Allred • Susan Allred • Cynthia Almonacy • Almsted Family • Kimberly Altmeyer • Tanya Altmeyer • Lana Alva • Erika Alvarado • Milcah Alvarado • Amancharla Family • Aura Amaya-Lopez • Constitution Ambassadors • America • Lelita Amick • Scott & Tania Amity • Amos Family • Clayton & Bonnie Andersen • Adam & Bridgette Anderson • Andrew W. Anderson • Angie Anderson • Benjamin T Anderson • Brent & Becky Anderson • Carole L Anderson • Anderson Family • Joel & Suzanne Anderson • Tim & Ash Anderson • Wayne & Stephanie Anderson • Wyatt Benjamin Anderson • Dalia Andrade • Luanne & Richard Andrews • Karla Monroy Del Angel • Norma Maya Anguiano • Cheryl Anklam • Eric S Ankney • Rett Anthony & Catherine Selway • Anti-Human Trafficking Club At U.V.U. • Adriana Antillon • Shari Anz • Sharon Apperson • Applegate Family • Vincent Applegate • Olga, Alejandro & Ivan Apud • Marcie Adrienne Moses Gabriel Aragon • Carmen Arango • Tony Arbelaez • Josiah & Janis Archer • Red & Jude Archer • Laura A Arenas • Beatriz Arguello • Arlee • Jim & Lynda Armstrong • Ryan Armstrong & Family • Arnetts • Ginger Leigh Arnold • Paul Arnold • Jessica Arocho • Idania Arroyo • Ed & Lee Arthur • Cally Arts • Gina Arts • Kelley Ashbrook • Richard & Sandee Ashby • Ashertopia • Jedadiah & Emily Ashford • Marti Ashford • Teresa Asija • Tiffany Askari • Achumboro & Jasmine Ataande • Atay Family • Shauna Atchley • Donna Atkins-Borba • Rocky Atkinson • Ralf W. Augstroze • Beth Augustine-Schulte • Kimberly Aument • Ausborne Family • Austin Family • etc.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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That was post production money for distribution, dummy.
Those investors were paid 120% of their money back when the movie was a success.
It's a model that Angel Studios is using on all of their productions going forward.
But yeah. Gambling.
I wouldn't invest in something like this. You're basically buying shares in a company, but it's impossible to trade them to somebody else, and if their next production does little business or loses in the end, you're out whatever you put down.
Do some research next time before you open your stupid mouth, retard.
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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack (September 29th):
The-Numbers international update carried over from last page:
Bruce took more money out of the international kitty where it shouldn't have come from.
It was $9,783,953 yesterday, and now it's $9,739,756, for a difference of $44,197.
International Total still remains unchanged at $27,565,724.
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Looks like it's Croatia. $246,808 now, when it was $202,611 yesterday.
Russia had the $120,677 added on Wednesday, which also came out of the Rest of World.
Those two changes combined were the only ones since I made the last archive on the 26th, and they both add up to the $9,904,630 shown for Rest of World then.
New archive on the 29th: https://archive.ph/Gt4pu
Looks like Bruce did it again. Big surprise...
"Rest of World" total is now down to $8,964,332 from $9,739,756 , which is a difference of $775,424. International Total remains unchanged.
Australia: $3,160,604 (+$101,742)
Mexico: $11,610,672 (+$636,920)
New Zealand: $847,047 (+$36,762)
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BOM Update:
The International Total at BOM raised to $34,040,139 today. This is $119,678 more than yesterday's $33,920,461.
BOM's international total only went up to $34,099,375 since the 29th, for a difference of $59,236.
Still no numbers on either site for Brazil.
New archives for both sites:
The Numbers 10/04: https://archive.ph/8QpIT
BoxOfficeMojo 10/04: https://archive.ph/QOrsK
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Talk To Me just ran away with the whole damn thing. There's zero chance that any movie that comes out for the rest of the year is ever going to catch up with it, let alone Sound of Freedom.
According to BoxOfficeMojo, it now has $39,610,335 International and a Worldwide total of $87,573,268, which is about $15 Million more than it had on the 29th.
I knew there was some international money that was not reported, but I did not see this coming.
Talk To Me's Worldwide Gross vs. Production budget is now 1,956%.
The only way that Sound of Freedom could ever catch up to that is if it grossed $230 Million and it came out that the production budget was only $11.5 Million.
Bruce, as always as of late, is totally behind on all of this.
New Talk To Me archives...
The-Numbers 10/04: https://archive.ph/6RN12
BoxOfficeMojo 10/04: https://archive.ph/cnP9R
Congratulations to the little indie horror flick that only cost $4.5 Million to make.
At this point, I'm done following it until both movies are long gone from the theaters and the final international totals are out. I think they're both far enough ahead of the competition that they should close out 2023 in the 1st and 2nd spot, but this race is officially over.
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Well... I know I said I wasn't following it anymore, but I misspoke. I just wasn't going to be doing daily updates anymore since most days there was nothing to update and the $15 Million added to Talk To Me not only gave it the undeniable 1st place finish without any competition but proved that all the speculation in the world about an indie movie's worldwide finish is just a complete waste of time.
But it would appear that there IS something to report today.
The-Numbers finally got a massive update to Sound of Freedom that was a long time coming.
$230,684,308 is the new worldwide total there, up from $210,799,928 last night, for an additional $19,884,380.
Back on September 12th I boldly made the following claim (and even underlined it):
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Sound of Freedom is now a $230 Million movie. That's the absolute bottom going forward. This will put it up close to 1,600% with the $14.5 Million budget figure. If it somehow manages $240 Million, that would be over 1650%.
So there you go...
Sound of Freedom's Worldwide Box Office vs. Production Budget is now 1,593%, rounding up to $231 Million.
Sound of Freedom / The-Numbers 10/04 Archive: https://archive.ph/Nw8ae
I stopped trying to guess what the Domestic numbers would be after September 24th, but I figured that there was $413,092 unreported by then. It turns out there was actually $607,489 in unreported Domestic money by the 24th, so it performed better in the states than I thought it would. Its run now though is essentially dead here however, since the last two days it made under $10k per day in only 125 theaters nationwide.
My last prediction for Sound of Freedom worldwide was on the 30th of September, where I figured it had at least $227 Million (a downgrade after I realized the Brazilian numbers were quite a bit less than I thought after currency conversion).
The fact that it beat this number by $3.5 or so Million means it might yet have enough play internationally to make the $240 I said that it could. $250 Million is highly unlikely.
Again though, there's no way it's going to come close to Talk to Me now.
Here's the new list (with most International countries reporting between 10/02 and 10/04):
Wednesday's Numbers (10/04):
1. Talk to Me - 1,956%
2. Sound of Freedom - 1,593%
3. M3GAN - 1,508% [FINAL]
4. Super Mario Bros - 1,361% [FINAL]
5. Insidious: The Red Door - 1,163% [FINAL]
6. Barbie - 989%
SoF needs 364% to beat Talk to Me. (About $53 Million --- Never going to happen)
I put Barbie back on the list because it's actually just a fraction away from what it would need to join the 1,000% club. With international reporting being as spotty as it has been of late, it very well could pull that off. I wouldn't even begin trying to make a guess on that one since Bruce has over $268 Million in the "Rest of World" Kitty, and a lot of countries have a "Report Date" all the way back in July and August. That's a total crap shoot.
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On 29 Sep, Bruce updated Croatis, and BOM changed nothing.
On 2 Oct Bruce updated NZ, Australia. BOM changed nothing.
On 3 Oct Bruce updated Mexico, but the totals remained the same as 13 September.
BOM updated Croatia.
Today, Bruce added a buttload of new countries/territories, and added over $19.136M to the International Total.
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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
On 29 Sep, Bruce updated Croatis, and BOM changed nothing.
On 2 Oct Bruce updated NZ, Australia. BOM changed nothing.
On 3 Oct Bruce updated Mexico, but the totals remained the same as 13 September.
BOM updated Croatia.
Today, Bruce added a buttload of new countries/territories, and added over $19.136M to the International Total.
We know. I already posted that.
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On September 14th, I was asked this question:
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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
6ix, You have mentioned the ratio of Domestic Box office vs. International for several films.
Do you have thoughts on what the ratio will be for Sound of Freedom?
Define the details and parameters as you wish.
For guidance, pedophiles and groomers have incessantly railed that Domestic BO for this film WILL NOT translate to International Box Office.
To which I replied:
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Well... I'm not quite sure how things are going to look Internationally when it's done. I still don't know what countries it will be releasing in that it hasn't already besides Brazil and Spain, and it appears it's getting new countries all the time.
Also, I didn't know that those 17 Latino countries it released in alongside of Mexico were all 2 weeks ago instead of only 1 week, so that would lower their future take from what I initially thought they would get.
I think the US Box Office is just about done, with it getting $45k on Monday and only $52k on Cheap Seat Tuesday. Likely less than a Million from the US going forward before it's pulled out of theaters. If it's lucky, it will get $185 Million in the US before it's gone, but I kind of doubt that.
I believe that the floor for this movie Worldwide is $230 Million now, with $250 Million possible though unlikely.
At $185 Million domestic rounding up and $230 Worldwide, that's 80.4% Domestic / 19.6% International.
If it manages $250 Million worldwide, that's 74% Domestic / 26% International.
Pretty close to accurate so far...
As I suspected back then, SoF is not going to get up to $185 Million Domestic by rounding up. Currently, it is now only $7,700 away from $184 Million, but with it grossing only $6k on Monday and $10k on Cheap Seat Tuesday and only playing in 125 theaters nationwide this week, its run is all but dead here. If it even remains in theaters next week, it's not likely to make much more than $25-$35k over the weekend, or about $50k additional maximum above the updates that Bruce had last night.
Despite that, we've reached $230,953,510 worldwide already anyhow, leaving us currently at 79.67% Domestic / 20.33% International. (Real numbers, not rounding)
I believe that $235 Million is the floor for SoF now. That would be 78.30% Domestic / 21.70% International.
If it hits $240 Million (I'm 50/50 on this), we're at 76.67% Domestic / 23.33% International.
If it somehow still manages $250 (which I highly doubt), we're at 73.6% Domestic / 26.4% International.
ETA: I was originally going to say that $240 Million is the new floor, but I looked into a few of the major international countries like Mexico and the weekly dropoffs since last reported were somewhat severe. They didn't look as bad in Columbia, but it only grossed $362,312 on the weekend of Sept 21-24 there, so even with a good dropoff it's just not that much money.
Really... It's all about Brazil now. And after the currency conversion revelation in Brazil, it's not going to be nearly as helpful to the bottom line as I thought it was going to be, with the Mexican box office being the likely highest international take.
With only $4 Million to make it to $235 Million, I'm quite comfortable making that the new floor since I don't think there's any chance it won't make that. I just don't know if it has enough gas left in the tank to cross $240 Million Worldwide or not, so I don't want to make that claim.
And for all we know, there's still unreported countries out there that could surprise us in the end. And as we already know very well, Bruce is always adding and subtracting from the international take due to currency conversions until well after a film leaves the Domestic Box Office. I don't expect these variances to be nearly as wide as the $5 Million variance we saw happening for months with Super Mario Bros simply because
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