***** Sound of Freedom
POSTED BY: JEWELSTAITEFAN
UPDATED: Tuesday, January 23, 2024 03:13
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Thanks for the info, JSF.
Fuck you, Second. Rape allegations is the Democrat go-to move when you don't like what somebody has to say or you want to try to remove somebody from power.
Nobody believes you anymore or takes anything any of you have to say seriously.
If Democrats ever read a fucking book, they'd know how Chicken Little and The Boy Who Cried Wolf works.
SPOILER ALERT: You're about to be eaten.
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Worldwide Total for SoF went down to $234,435,634 (a loss of $741,883 from yesterday).
The "Rest of World" rose $123,888 from yesterday to $3,466,378, so I don't know where it came from and I'm not going to bother checking all the countries.
The new archive for anybody who wants to look into it is here (10/12): https://archive.ph/NiqKC
Interestingly enough, BOM now shows the exact $234,435,634 figure that Bruce has at the-numbers. That might be the first time they both showed an identical number.
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My post was inexact.
When I said "yesterday," I meant the 9th, before I went to bed, which was before the updates for the 9th were posted, like Australia and NZ.
So, to be clear, the rest of the world may have appeared again at the same time as those 9th updates.
The last few days, UAE figures are messed up. The drop in figures noted are largely due to that error.
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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack (October 5th):
I believe that $235 Million is the floor for SoF now. That would be 78.30% Domestic / 21.70% International.
If it hits $240 Million (I'm 50/50 on this), we're at 76.67% Domestic / 23.33% International.
If it somehow still manages $250 (which I highly doubt), we're at 73.6% Domestic / 26.4% International.
ETA: I was originally going to say that $240 Million is the new floor, but I looked into a few of the major international countries like Mexico and the weekly dropoffs since last reported were somewhat severe. They didn't look as bad in Columbia, but it only grossed $362,312 on the weekend of Sept 21-24 there, so even with a good dropoff it's just not that much money.
Really... It's all about Brazil now.
Blew right by $235 Million there.
The-Numbers: $238,493,286
Archive (10/17): https://archive.ph/UsvXW
BOM: $238,719,205
Archive (10/17): https://archive.ph/rHcwv
That's around $3 to $3.3 Million more than last week after they lowered the numbers by around $700k.
It's probably going to be at $240 Million by this time next week.
They appear to have pushed back the digital release date to November 3rd, so there should be plenty of time left in the theaters.
I'm now going to say $240 Million is pretty much a sure thing and $245 Million is better odds than a coin flip. Both of these statements are assuming it's still going to get more time in the international theaters before that digital release. Mexico's business is just about dead with only a little over $100k on weekend 7.
At $245 Million, the Domestic / International split would be just around 75% / 25%.
It appears to be doing very well in Brazil. If memory serves, it only got around $1.7 Million there on opening weekend after currency conversion, but is now close to $8.2 Million and only around $4 Million shy of Mexico's current take. I'm pretty sure it will cross $10 Million now and my original guess of anywhere between $10 and $20 Million for Brazil from September 15th will have been correct.
Talk To Me's numbers...
BOM: $89,912,674
The-Numbers: $68,620,005
Tuesday's Numbers (10/17):
1. Talk to Me - 2,000% (+22%)
2. Sound of Freedom - 1,648% (+27%)
3. M3GAN - 1,508% [FINAL]
4. Super Mario Bros - 1,361% [FINAL]
5. Insidious: The Red Door - 1,163% [FINAL]
6. Barbie - 992% (+0%)
SoF needs 353% to beat Talk to Me. (About $52 Million --- Never going to happen)
Congratulations to Talk To Me for being the sole member of the 2,000% club.
It's still $87.4k short of that by BOM's estimates, but that shouldn't be a problem to overcome. The only real unknown here is why hasn't Bruce updated the international numbers for Talk To Me in so long? He's $21 Million behind BOM's estimates. $21 Million is nothing when you're tracking a Billion Dollar movie like Barbie or Super Mario Bros, but that's almost 20% of Talk To Me's total Worldwide Box Office.
If, for some strange reason, BOM is just totally wrong about Talk To Me's international take and hasn't yet fixed the error and Bruce's numbers are correct, Talk To Me sits in 2nd place at 1,533%.
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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Congratulations to Talk To Me for being the sole member of the 2,000% club.
It's still $87.4k short of that by BOM's estimates, but that shouldn't be a problem to overcome. The only real unknown here is why hasn't Bruce updated the international numbers for Talk To Me in so long? He's $21 Million behind BOM's estimates. $21 Million is nothing when you're tracking a Billion Dollar movie like Barbie or Super Mario Bros, but that's almost 20% of Talk To Me's total Worldwide Box Office.
If, for some strange reason, BOM is just totally wrong about Talk To Me's international take and hasn't yet fixed the error and Bruce's numbers are correct, Talk To Me sits in 2nd place at 1,533%.
According to BOM at least, it's official...
$90,030,033 worldwide gross for Talk To Me. It is now at 2,000%.
The-Numbers.com is still showing only $68 Million and change.
As for my little argument with JSF a while back about the Production Budget for SoF and my choice to use $14.5 Million instead of only $14 Million, that's all moot at this point.
Even with the lower $14 Million budget number, SoF would only be at 1,707% instead of 1,648%. With the current numbers for both movies, the budget SoF would need to take 1st place would be $11.9 Million.
And just like I won't take WB or the Leftist rags seriously when they tried lowering Blue Beetle's budget from $120M down to $104M after it was clear it was going to be a major flop without providing any receipts to back that change up after the fact other than "Trust me, bruh", I wouldn't even lower SoF's budget to $14M, let alone $11.9M unless they provided all the in-depth financials to the public that they'd probably be insane to release.
SoF won't ever take first place on the Return on Investment list for 2023, but that's okay.
The Top 10 most profitable movies vs production budget this year is a pretty amazing list. Aside from Barbie not a single one of them were over $100M, 3 of them were $100M, and 6 of them were under $20 Million.
There's still a great chance that a few low-budget flicks could displace Miles Morales 2 off that list and only leave 3 movies that cost $100M to $145M to make.
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I noticed that with only 3 exeptions, Bruce was way lower on all the individual countries than BOM is currently, so I decided to figure out exactly by how much...
EUROPE, MIDDLE EAST, AND AFRICA:
Croatia: $ 192
East Africa: $ 23,248 [No entry on the-numbers.com]
Iceland: $ 76,454
Kuwait: $ 10,755
Lithuania: $ 1,703
Nigeria: *Not counted because it's a double of "South Africa/Nigeria" on BOM and the $276,058 for both entries on BOM matches perfectly with "South Africa / Others Africa" on the-numbers.com.
Oman: $ 4,843
Poland: $ 0 (Perfect Match)
Saudi Arabia: $153,736
Serbia and Montenegro: $ 0 (Perfect Match)
Slovenia: $ 7,740
South Africa: $ 14,216
South Africa/Nigeria: $ 0 (Perfect Match)
United Arab Emirates: $ 30,852
United Kingdom: $ 71,983
TOTAL SHORT (EUROPE, MIDDLE EAST, AND AFRICA): $395,722
LATIN AMERICA:
Argentina: $ 386,500
Brazil: $4,377,938
Bolivia: $ 48,439
Chile: $ 65,220
Costa Rica: $ 84,182
Ecuador: $ 109,678
El Salvador: $ 9,300
Guatemala: $ 16,859
Honduras: $ 24,246
Mexico: $ 609,629
Nicaragua: $ 9,280
Panama: $ 27,767
Paraguay: $ 11,118
Peru: $ 133,555
Uruguay: $ 25,689
Venezuela: $ 33,713
TOTAL SHORT (LATIN AMERICA): $5,973,113
ASIA PACIFIC:
Australia: $ 30,976
Russia/CIS: $ 9,548
Taiwan: $105,184
TOTAL SHORT (ASIA PACIFIC): $145,708
TOTAL SHORT (ALL COUNTRIES): $6,514,543
And then these are the countries Bruce has a higher number for than BOM.
Colombia: $445,103
New Zealand: $15,887
Spain: $664
TOTAL HIGHER THAN BOM: $461,654
COUNTRIES ON THE-NUMBERS THAT AREN'T ON BOM:
Azerbaijan: $6,747
France: [Not yet released]
Germany: [Not yet released]
West Africa: $5,452
TOTAL: $12,199
So if you subtract the countries Bruce has that aren't on BOM and the countries where Bruce is higher than BOM, the final total in the difference between country numbers on both sites is $6,040,690.
Bruce has Rest of World at $6,228,261
BOM does not have a Rest of World field.
Subtract the additional $6,040,690 at BOM on the individual countries from Bruce's $6,228,261 Rest of World field at the-numbers and you get 187,571.
The difference in International Total currently between both sites is an additional $16,263 at BOM over the-numbers.com.
However, Nigeria was counted twice on BOM as both Nigeria and South Africa/Nigeria, so subtract the doubled up $276,058 from $16,263 and the-numbers is actually $259,795 ahead of BOM on the numbers for international.
I was hoping with all the work involved in doing all that figuring I'd come up with something really interesting, but that doesn't appear to be the case really outside of BOM counting Nigeria twice and just seeing how different outfits do the international figures. These numbers are close enough that they can just be chaulked up to minor errors on either side and there's not going to be any missing money found here that makes any substantial difference.
Hopefully we get another international update by Tuesday. They've been pretty good about it the last few weeks now.
Latest archives with these numbers...
The-Numbers.com (10/21/2023): https://archive.ph/b4zlW
BoxOfficeMojo (10/21/2023): https://archive.ph/7TVja
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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack (October 18th):Quote:
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack (October 5th):
I believe that $235 Million is the floor for SoF now. That would be 78.30% Domestic / 21.70% International.
If it hits $240 Million (I'm 50/50 on this), we're at 76.67% Domestic / 23.33% International.
If it somehow still manages $250 (which I highly doubt), we're at 73.6% Domestic / 26.4% International.
ETA: I was originally going to say that $240 Million is the new floor, but I looked into a few of the major international countries like Mexico and the weekly dropoffs since last reported were somewhat severe. They didn't look as bad in Columbia, but it only grossed $362,312 on the weekend of Sept 21-24 there, so even with a good dropoff it's just not that much money.
Really... It's all about Brazil now.
Blew right by $235 Million there.
The-Numbers: $238,493,286
Archive (10/17): https://archive.ph/UsvXW
BOM: $238,719,205
Archive (10/17): https://archive.ph/rHcwv
That's around $3 to $3.3 Million more than last week after they lowered the numbers by around $700k.
It's probably going to be at $240 Million by this time next week.
They appear to have pushed back the digital release date to November 3rd, so there should be plenty of time left in the theaters.
I'm now going to say $240 Million is pretty much a sure thing and $245 Million is better odds than a coin flip. Both of these statements are assuming it's still going to get more time in the international theaters before that digital release. Mexico's business is just about dead with only a little over $100k on weekend 7.
At $245 Million, the Domestic / International split would be just around 75% / 25%.
The-Numbers finally gets another update.
Sound of Freedom now at $242,611,522 worldwide.
BOM has yet to update it.
The-Numbers Archive (10/30/2023): https://archive.ph/wip/n7GZR
Only $2,388,478 away from $245 Million Worldwide now. Can SoF pull it off?
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Talk To Me's numbers... (From the 18th of October)
BOM: $89,912,674
The-Numbers: $68,620,005
Today's numbers...
BOM: $90,494,330
The-Numbers: $69,033,655
I really don't know what's up with that $20 Million + discrepancy and why it hasn't been resolved yet. Bruce is obviously still adding more money to this thing, but his international take has been lagging behind by a staggering amount for well over a month now if not two.
Monday's Numbers (10/30):
1. Talk to Me - 2,000% (+0%)
2. Sound of Freedom - 1,676% (+28%)
3. M3GAN - 1,508% [FINAL]
4. Super Mario Bros - 1,361% [FINAL]
5. Insidious: The Red Door - 1,163% [FINAL]
6. Barbie - 994% (+2%)
SoF needs 324% to beat Talk to Me. (About $48 Million --- Never going to happen)
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I finally had a deep look into Talk To Me's international numbers at BOM and The-Numbers.com.
At first glance, I thought that maybe the issue was still BOM heavily over-reporting things because Bruce has the report date for "Rest of World" up-to-date at 10/30/2023.
But it's just another database error at The-Numbers (or he really does update all of this stuff by hand from page to page which is insanity).
The combined total of all listed countries is $20,857,130 alone, which is what he has listed for the "International Box Office" at the top of the page.
What he doesn't include in that total however is the "Rest of World" row at the bottom of the page. That's another $20,857,130 that is missing from both the International and Worldwide totals at the top of the page.
When you add them both together it comes to $41,902,507.
That's still slightly less than BOM's International Total of $42,215,727, but only by $313,220.
In any event, we don't have to wait any longer to see if mistakes were made here. Talk To Me is officially the only movie of 2023 to be in the 2,000% club.
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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Only $2,388,478 away from $245 Million Worldwide now. Can SoF pull it off?
Indeed it can.
$245,718,707 Worldwide on a $14.5 Million budget.
https://www.the-numbers.com/movie/Sound-of-Freedom-(2023)#tab=internat
ional
We may see a few more million trickle in for this internationally, but we probably won't see $250 Million +. If memory serves, it did hit streaming 4 days ago.
According to Bruce, the split right now is exactly 75% Domestic / 25% international.
Tuesday's Numbers (11/07):
1. Talk to Me - 2,022% (+22%)
2. Sound of Freedom - 1,696% (+20%)
3. M3GAN - 1,508% [FINAL]
4. Super Mario Bros - 1,362% [FINAL] (+1%) Still finding money for this one...
5. Insidious: The Red Door - 1,163% [FINAL]
6. Barbie - 994% (+0%)
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8. Five Nights at Freddy's (864%)
Poor Barbie. So close.
FNAF is probably going to join the 1,000% club. I didn't bother putting Oppenheimer on the list because even though it did very admirably, it's got zero shot at making the club.
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No updates for Sound of Freedom since last weekend, but I'm updating this for FNAF.
Sunday's Numbers (11/12):
1. Talk to Me - 2,022% (+0%)
2. Sound of Freedom - 1,696% (+0%)
3. M3GAN - 1,508% [FINAL]
4. Super Mario Bros - 1,362% [FINAL]
5. Insidious: The Red Door - 1,163% [FINAL]
6. Five Nights at Freddy's - 1,008% (+144%)
7. Barbie - 994% (+0%)
Poor Barbie. So close. (I'm still leaving Barbie up here just in case. It is possible that Bruce finds some money under the couch cushions before this one is officially over. Even Super Mario Bros rose 1% last weekend, and it's been out of theaters forever).
FNAF officially joins the 1,000% club. Congrats to everyone involved.
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