Obama Supporters.

POSTED BY: Wulfenstar
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WULFENSTAR

Friday, October 24, 2008 3:00 AM

http://www.thepittsburghchannel.com/news/17789356/detail.html

'Nuff said.

FUTUREMRSFILLION

Friday, October 24, 2008 3:19 AM

What precisely does this have to do with Obama or his supporters?

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KWICKO

Friday, October 24, 2008 3:45 AM

I liked this headline better:

Quote:

Sarah Palin Holds Rally At Beaver High School

There's gotta be a tasteless joke in there somewhere...

Mike

RIGHTEOUS9

Friday, October 24, 2008 3:50 AM

don't be a jackass

that says nothing, nor is there any strong proof that she was personally injured because of the sticker in that article, nor would anybody in the obama campaign condon such an action or knowingly fratrinize with a person who did such a thing,

Let me see, there are over 300 million people in America, and i'l estimate that about a third of them support obama and a third of them support mccain, just to pull a number out of my ass.

How many crazy people do you think we can find on both sides of the aisle in 200 million people?

The Obama campaign has not been inciting hatred, and that is the distinction you should be seeing, as opposed to the palin and Mccain rallies, which seem to have brought out some crazies...

to the point where FINALLY, Mccain had to show some integrity and tell his audience that Obama is a family man, and that he's a decent person.

I commend him for doing so, but its his own campaign that has been feeding it.

You can't say the same for Obama. He hasn't attacked Mccain's patriotism, he hasn't suggested that Mccain doesn't believe in country first, and so on and so on.

FUTUREMRSFILLION

Friday, October 24, 2008 3:52 AM

This is my favorite! Snicker Snort!

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KWICKO

Friday, October 24, 2008 5:05 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by FutureMrsFIllion:
This is my favorite! Snicker Snort!

I am on The List. We are The Forsaken and we aim to burn!
"We don't fear the reaper"

FORSAKEN original

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Oh. My. Gawd.

FMF, you just made my whole week!

Palin supports the Democrats!

I wonder how much that scarf cost the GOP. S'pose it came from Neiman-Marcus (aka "Needless Markups")?

Mike

What, no catchy sig-line?

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FUTUREMRSFILLION

Friday, October 24, 2008 1:13 PM

apparently someone at one of her rally's gave it to her.

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KHYRON

Friday, October 24, 2008 1:19 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by FutureMrsFIllion:
apparently someone at one of her rally's gave it to her.

I wonder what she thought when she got it. "Aww, look at the pwetty horsies!!"

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McCain/Palin: The first presidential ticket that features two candidates who have both been found to have violated ethics standards.

HERO

Friday, October 24, 2008 1:43 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by FutureMrsFIllion:
What precisely does this have to do with Obama or his supporters?

Its anecdotal.

It means little in the grand scheme of things, yet serves to illistrate (rightly or wrongly) a concern or issue.

In this case it serves three roles.

First, it plays into the whole 'Barrack America' sentiment. We all recall the textbooks with the Obama Chapter, the kids singing the Obama praise song in school, the uniformed kids praising Obama, Berlin and 'Greek column' moments and so on.

Second, it serves to illistrate the violence and abuse that seems to be so common in this election. Cars with McCain stickers vandalized, Republican poll workers attacked by Democratic Poll workers, kid suspended from school for wearing McCain/Palin shirt, etc.

Third, this happened in western PA, region that Murtha said was full of racist rednecks and that Obama claims is filled with folks clinging to their guns and religeon. In other words a generally conservative blue-collar Democratic region that is suddenly 'in play'. If McCain wins PA, it will be because of western PA.

So right or wrong, this incident plays into those three areas.

H

FUTUREMRSFILLION

Friday, October 24, 2008 1:46 PM

an yet there is nothing to link it to Obama or his supporters.

This is just more of the hysteria the RNC is trying to drum up to scare people.

While I abhor what happened to this young lady, there is NOTHING to suggest that this has anything to do with Obama.

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WULFENSTAR

Friday, October 24, 2008 2:09 PM

Sure thing Future.

These type of people are YOUR constiuants.

The lowest of the low. The most ignorant of the ignorant.

In other words,

The animals.

But hey, whatever.

McCains folks are the greedy rich bastards.

So for the 2% of folks in the country who actually ARE intelligent, we get screwed either way.

RIGHTEOUS9

Friday, October 24, 2008 2:16 PM

How is violence akin to love and praise?

And you seriously think this street guy was listening to Fox News and heard what Murtha said?

And still Hero, for everything you cite I could easily give you an example from the other side, and the distinction would still be that Obama's campaign has not fostered anti-Mccain sentiment, sentiment that goes to the heart of Mccain's motive, and patriotism.

You are, to put it lightly, full of shit, but you do keep yourself well polished.

WASHNWEAR

Friday, October 24, 2008 2:29 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by FutureMrsFIllion:
an yet there is nothing to link it to Obama or his supporters.

This is just more of the hysteria the RNC is trying to drum up to scare people.

While I abhor what happened to this young lady, there is NOTHING to suggest that this has anything to do with Obama.

I've read 4 different reports of this incident this morning (and at this point they don't differ much), and several things strike me as...funny...

1.)Rob first, then take a few extra seconds to mutilate as sort of an after-thought? If my original intent going in was to rob somebody at knife-point, I think my next original intent would be to get the hell away from the scene of the crime. I would have to be a hell of a lot more devoted to Obama than I am to hang around carving initials into the face of my victim. I would find this aspect a little more believable if the order of events was beating/monogramming followed by "Oh, and BTW, give me your dough."

2.) The photo on the 'Net shows what looks like a backward "B" on the lady's right cheek. It does not - in that photo, anyway - look like a deep cut; it looks more like a B-shaped scratch. I think you would have to take a little time and be careful to produce what's in the photo, that is, a fairly bloodless scratch instead of a jagged, bloody mess. And I'm pretty sure that scratching a "B" backwards into someone's cheek is at least a little more time-consuming than doing it forwards. (According to a couple of articles I read, no official police photo had yet been taken of the victim, and I haven't run across a credit yet for the photo that's appearing online.)

Okay, there was a 3.), but it got annexed by 2.). Anyway, echoing FMF, if this attack is the real deal, then my sympathies to the young lady and I hope they get the rat-bastard who did it. But I'm smellin' a whole lot of "Now, wait a minute" comin' off this scenario...

It was like that when we got here!

HERO

Friday, October 24, 2008 3:11 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Righteous9:
And still Hero, for everything you cite I could easily give you an example from the other side,

That is true to some extent.

But the spin on Barrack is 'the chosen one'...seen very much as a negative cult of personality that is frightening to some people. McCain has no such image. In fact this image problem is a BIG part of the reason Barrack has failed to break away in this overwhelming Democratic climate (Berlin nearly sank him). One could reasonable argue that, but for the economic crisis, these polls are likely just as close, but with McCain on top.

One of the biggest mistakes the Democrats made was in not painting Palin with the 'chosen one' brush. Choosing instead to paint her as 'just another idiot' (which anyone who has seen her interviews, with one exception, or seen her speak in person can dispute). The personal attacks on her intellegence and character hurt the Democrats by elevating her status, making the public take real interest in her, and setting her up to exceed expectations again and again. They should have painted her as a media hound, cashing in on her 15minutes and as the conservative 'chosen one' and Hillary wanna-be which would have diluted many of the 'Barrack America' fears people have.

H

RIGHTEOUS9

Friday, October 24, 2008 3:21 PM

But Palin is the single most negative factor right now of the Mccain campaign Hero...people have not disagreed with those democratic attacks on Palin.

If your point is that Mccain and his campaign have succesfully painted Obama as the chosen one, well who the hell's fault is that?

He certainly hasn't said it personally, except for when he was mocking it at that fundraiser.

If some people see him as representing hope and a better tomorrow, who can blame them, really.

But Obama's politics are hardly messianic. He's more conservative than Presidents we've had in the past. He's just well left of Bush and Mccain, and that aint hard.

FREMDFIRMA

Friday, October 24, 2008 3:37 PM

It smells a lot like those Swastika defacements which always seem to wind up actually committed by folks wanting to play victim to pull on the sympathy heartstring to me.

To be downright crassly blunt, I'm pretty sure she did that herself as a way to "justify" the unreasoning hatred she feels for anyone who doesn't see the world the way she does - I've seen that shit often enough to be fairly certain of it.

But on the other hand, lemme also be crassly blunt and straight fucking tell you - the Modern Republican Party *DESERVES* the level of hate you described, fully and utterly, due to their lies, economic destruction, invasions and slaughters, shovelling our money into the pockets of the rich, letting a buncha fucking terrorists loose on us under the guise of official sanction just because they supposedly work for us, never putting the towers back up, fucking over any right to privacy or to be left alone, letting our whole infrastructure crumble till it rots, I could go on for four HOURS and never run out of gas or repeat myself...

I say you should feel damn LUCKY that Liberals in general, and as a whole, are a merciful bunch, cause while I would not participate, if the rage ever tripped the million-monkey point and they started lynching you treacherous bastards, I would not participate, but damned if I would stop it either.

You and your ilk have preached hatred and fear until the whole damned country is reeking with it, and then have the nerve to bitch when it winds up coming full circle and is directed at the very folk who've given the people the most cause to hate and fear them ?

Don't dare come bitchin to me when the crows YOU and yours set loose come back to roost on your own balcony, cause you ain't got no-one else to blame, when it comes down to it.

So far as I've seen it, Obamas mostly preachin hope, rebuilding, and reconciliation, and you oughta be damn thankful for it - cause if you left it up to me, I'd rather have Sharpton or Farrakhan all up your ass instead, see how YOU like being on the receiving end of hatred and bigotry for once.

Don't come lookin for sympathy here, bub.

-Frem

It cannot be said enough, those who do not learn from history, are doomed to endlessly repeat it

RIGHTEOUS9

Friday, October 24, 2008 3:49 PM

I'm not going to speculate what happened to her. We got a preliminary reporting on it, so I won't jump to this woman having done this to herself. If this happened to her, and worse, if this happened to her because of her choice of parties, I can't say that that kind of hatred is well placed. Just as you yourself said that you need the repubs to stay frosty and active when Obama gets into office, we really all do need each other to a great extent. this woman, unless, god forbid she really did do this to herself(and I don't have any facts to suggest this), is from my perspective, a believer.

It doesn't make her a bad guy to be in my opinion, wrong. It makes her misinformed, maybe, and I'm not going to hold 50 percent of our populace up as equally blamable for what has occured in this country. Granted, the problem is systemic, and we all are to blame, especially those of us who are misinformed, or are the misinformers...but there has been no collective call to get informed until recently(which is the one good thing about the financial crisis).

There has been no top down reminder of social and political responsibility of the citizen in this nation, there has been a breakdown in education, and a breakdown in values about just what the American Citizen is responsible for. All we were told was to let daddy take care of it while we go shopping.

It's hard to specifically blame each and every person for being ignorant in this country, when that seems to be an American Value after all.

WULFENSTAR

Friday, October 24, 2008 3:53 PM

Damn Frem,

Calm down.

"I'd rather have Sharpton or Farrakhan all up your ass instead, see how YOU like being on the receiving end of hatred and bigotry for once."

Been there, done that. Didn't like it, nor would I want anyone else to go thru it.

"Liberals in general, and as a whole, are a merciful bunch"... i.e. LAZY

lol

"If the rage ever tripped the million-monkey point and they started lynching you treacherous bastards, I would not participate, but damned if I would stop it either."

Good to know.

"million-monkey point..." LMAO!

But its whatever.

Conservatives are no better than Libs.

EXCEPT I don't see a bunch of Bible-bangers robbing folks, and then carving M in their victims faces...

The guy who did this...well, he should be

FREMDFIRMA

Friday, October 24, 2008 4:20 PM

Quote:
"Liberals in general, and as a whole, are a merciful bunch"... i.e. LAZY

ROFL, you're starting to catch my little subtleties... not bad, not bad at all...

And here I was so tryin not to say that out loud.

Quote:
Good to know.

Wouldn't stop it in the other direction neither, let both radical ends of the spectrum slaughter each other, worlds better off without em anyhows.

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"million-monkey point..."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hundredth_Monkey
In humans it applies in a manner of gestalt I call a "sea change", when suddenly enough folk believe something that it then becomes popular and socially acceptable to believe it, and it's like a tidal bore coming in when it happens.
Study a bit of middle-ages history for some good examples.

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Conservatives are no better than Libs.

Amen.

Quote:
EXCEPT I don't see a bunch of Bible-bangers robbing folks, and then carving M in their victims faces...

Ever been to Florida ?

Damn cretins SHOT at us, buncha religious ultra-crispy nutters took issue to a certain pagan gathering down there, started takin potshots at em - to which, one young ruthless bastard was sent in response, and after realizing truck radiators are damned expensive, the locals decided that maybe it wasn't worth botherin them no more... that was before I developed the depth perception issues which now make anythin more than a hundred yards a waste of ammo, though.

I don't doubt the chick was robbed, mind you, and whomever did it should have their balls crushed in a garlic press - but I have my doubts about the scratchwork, it's too damn neat for a thug, and that's comin from someone who used to BE one, yanno.

-Frem

It cannot be said enough, those who do not learn from history, are doomed to endlessly repeat it

SIGNYM

Friday, October 24, 2008 4:25 PM

Quote:
EXCEPT I don't see a bunch of Bible-bangers robbing folks, and then carving M in their victims faces...

Nah... they just drag 'em behind a truck while parts fly off, piece by piece.

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Let's party like its 1929.

WULFENSTAR

Friday, October 24, 2008 4:44 PM

*sigh

Yes Sigy, some rednecks HAVE done that. But I doubt it was for their political beliefs...

SIGNYM

Friday, October 24, 2008 4:47 PM

Where do you separate racism (on either side, since blacks can be racists too) from politics?

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Let's party like its 1929.

STORYMARK

Friday, October 24, 2008 5:03 PM

Te more I read about it, the less convinving her story is. The police are now saying her story has changed, and is inconsistant. they have given her a lie-detector test, but I havn't seen the results.

But it just seems a little too convenient that this happened hours after McCain's campaign says, in PA, that violence will break out amongst Obama supporters if they loose. And then there's the black eye with no swelling of burst blood vessels in the eye. Setting aside the "B" being backwards (which seems like something one would do if looking in a mirror), it seems awfully neat to have been downe while holding down a struggling woman. And why wouldn't she seek medical attention, unless she didn't want the true nature of her injury exposed?

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

WULFENSTAR

Friday, October 24, 2008 5:28 PM

Sigy,

Racism CAN (as in maybe, might, could be) have a political side to it.

But, there are a lot of Republicans out there who are NOT racist. Just as there are a lot of democrats who ARE.

Political leanings vary and for a whole host of reasons.

PIZMOBEACH

Friday, October 24, 2008 5:30 PM

Agree Storymark - there's a lotta if coming off this story... "happened outside the view of the bank's surveillance cameras" and like you say, no medical treatment to examine her wounds more closely. A backwards "B" - wtf?! - almost funny if the story wasn't so sad.
And they throw in some sexual assault almost as an after thought, "She also indicated she was sexually assaulted as well." Was that before or after she lost consciousness? This guy sure took his time and most atms aren't exactly hidden, this one's on a busy street.
And how did the right wing blog sarahsarmy.blogspot.com get involved (view the clip)?

This is so whack.

PHOENIXROSE

Friday, October 24, 2008 5:33 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Storymark:
But it just seems a little too convenient...

But... but... but it was done by a large scary black man! Out of sight of the security camera... And he knew which car was hers, even though she clearly didn't have time to get into it...
>.>
<.<
...But it was a large scary black man, what more proof do you need?

You may say I'm a dreamer. But I'm not the only one.

PIRATENEWS

Friday, October 24, 2008 5:39 PM

How many cars with Bush stickers have been run off the road or keyed in the past 8 years?

WULFENSTAR

Friday, October 24, 2008 5:40 PM

Yeah Phoenix...

It was her fault for being all white AND a woman too!

Right?
Right?

Yeah! She was just ASKING for it!

(As a side note..her being a Republican and NOT having a gun on her? WTF?)

Had it been MY wife...heh. This animal would have been put down with 2 in the head.

RIGHTEOUS9

Friday, October 24, 2008 5:48 PM

well a knife in the hand is better than a gun in the purse.

For now, I'm going to assume that the woman was heinously attacked, and let the people involved sort out waht's true and what's not,

but as to motivation for the assault, well, there's another thing nobody should be jumping to conclusions about,

Wulf

RIGHTEOUS9

Friday, October 24, 2008 5:52 PM

Heheh

whoops...that was fast. I should have gone to my news site before my last post

http://kdka.com/

STORYMARK

Friday, October 24, 2008 5:53 PM

More inconsistancies: Aside from the cameras at the ATM not recording the incident, they didn't show her go to the machine at all, nor was her card used.

Also, she live-blogged about her search for an ATM in a rough neighborhood (how hard is it to find an ATM in a city these days? She needed to go to the inner city for it?) on Twitter. She had never blogged about such innocuous activities before (her blog being mostly stuff from McCai/Palin rallies).

Even super Right-winger Michelle Malkin is starting to call BS on this.

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

PIRATENEWS

Friday, October 24, 2008 5:53 PM

Muggers for Obama in Kenya murdered 1,000 Christians, including 50 arsoned to death in their church with the doors padlocked. Obama supporters raped both women and men in Kenya, when Obama's cousin lost the election for president. 800 Christian churches were arsoned by Obama's radical Muslim terrorist army, creating 350,000 refugees. So Kenya was forced to creat the non job of prime minister for Obama's Commie cousin.
www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=78132

Hussien Obama is a citizen of Kenya. His granny brags he was born in Kenya.
www.obamacrimes.com

Obama Mass Hypnosis Manual
www.pennypresslv.com/Obama%27s_Use_of_Hidden_Hypnosis_techniques_in_Hi
s_Speeches.pdf

PHOENIXROSE

Friday, October 24, 2008 5:54 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Wulfenstar:
It was her fault for being all white AND a woman too!

Right?
Right?

Yeah! She was just ASKING for it!

Oh yes, I'm attacked by large scary black men every week, doncha know. They often carve backwards letters into my face (illiterate, I imagine) and beat on me and fondle me just because they can. I never get medical exams or treatment, though. Of course I wish they were caught, but I'd have to pay for all the exams and gathering of evidence, and I'm just your average middle-class girl, don't have millions of dollars in assets like my superiors over in the castle.

You may say I'm a dreamer. But I'm not the only one.

FUTUREMRSFILLION

Friday, October 24, 2008 5:55 PM

Michelle Malkin smells a lot of if as well.....

Why that McCain volunteer’s “mutilation” story smells awfully weird; Update: Police to administer polygraph; conflicting evidence at scene
By Michelle Malkin • October 23, 2008 06:43 PM Scroll down for updates…”Police planned to administer a polygraph test to Ashley Todd, 20, because her statements about the attack conflict with evidence from the Citizens Bank ATM where she claims the incident occurred, police said”…and more below on following her MySpace, Twitter, and Facebook trails…10/24…more fishiness

Throughout my career, I’ve covered dozens of fake hate crimes — campus hate crime hoaxes, Muslim hate crime hoaxes, fake noose hangings, etc., etc., etc. Most were perpetrated by liberals, but there have been some shameful ones on our side of the aisle as well.

I’ve reported on the great lengths that warped attention-seekers have gone to in perpetrating fake hate crimes, including beating themselves up, carving swastikas on their dorm room doors and walls, locking themselves in bathroom stalls, and burning down their own houses.

Which is why I’m not jumping up and down with outrage over Drudge-promoted story of a McCain volunteer claiming to have been attacked by a black man whom she accused of carving a “B” in her face after spotting her McCain bumper sticker.

She refused medical treatment after reporting the incident to police. Why on earth would she do that?

Look at her face (photo via Hot Air):

What’s wrong with the “B?”

I share my reader Kathy’s suspicions on this. She writes:

Notice how the “B” is backwards on the right cheek……if you were looking in a mirror and put it on your own face…it would appear backwards and would probably be on your own right cheek (due to most folks are right handed)……she put it on her own face but forgot it would show up backwards.

She may have been robbed and beaten but I think she added the “B”….

Take a close look at the picture.
Maaaaybe the alleged robber straddled her upside-down while carving it into her face.

Maybe.

But I’ve got my doubts.

(Update: And yes, as many readers have pointed out, it’s also the neatness and superficiality of that “B” that also raises red flags. See my police officer reader’s e-mail below.)

The woman has been identified as GOP volunteer Ashley Todd of Texas. Her Twitter page is here and I find it, well, odd.

This seems to me to have shades of Paul Mirecki (note that there was a photo in that case, too), Sarah Marshak, and Tawana Brawley all over it.

If I’m wrong, I’ll apologize. If I’m right, will this woman?

It needs to be said — and since it is not said often enough by those on the other side of the political aisle, I’ll say it again:

We have enough low-lifes and thugs in the world running loose and causing campaign chaos and fomenting hatred without having to make them up. I’ve been blowing the whistle on the real, left-wing rage not on the front page and in-your-face tactics throughout the election season.

Hate crimes hoaxes — by anyone, of any political persuasion, and of any color — diminish us all.

Either way, I hope that Todd gets the help she needs, that the whole truth comes out, and that justice is served on the perpetrator.

Whoever he or she may be.

***

Ace weighs in.

And from a reader who is a police officer:

“I’m a cop - 8th year now - and this McCain supporter attack just didn’t pass the “smell test” as soon as I read about it.

At this point, I’ll guess the shiner was inflicted either by a friend willingly as part of this hoax or a boyfriend in a domestic dispute.

The “B” is far to[o] shallow and clean to be taken seriously. Reminds me of the stab wounds that a “hero” would get when fighting off a phantom attacker - far to[o] superficial to have been done in what is a fairly violent encounter.

Either way, I’m voting McCain
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Update 1am Eastern: Via Pittsburgh Tribune-Review…

A knife-wielding man robbed a McCain-Palin campaign volunteer and etched a “B” into her face after he saw a

RIGHTEOUS9

Friday, October 24, 2008 5:56 PM

check my link

she confessed to lying

and Wulf,

maybe you shouldn't be so compulsive in the future?

FUTUREMRSFILLION

Friday, October 24, 2008 5:59 PM

http://74.125.45.104/search?q=cache:dNPAoAhExjwJ:profile.myspace.com/i
ndex.cfm%3Ffuseaction%3Duser.viewprofile%26friendID%3D8513159+www.myspace.com/rabbitrocker&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=us&client=firefox-a

Nice little quote on that page.

I am on The List. We are The Forsaken and we aim to burn!
"We don't fear the reaper"

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“I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ.” Mahatma Gandhi

FUTUREMRSFILLION

Friday, October 24, 2008 6:01 PM

Apparently she has confessed to making it up.

http://kdka.com/local/attack.McCain.Bloomfield.2.847628.html

She should be charged with a hate crime.

I am on The List. We are The Forsaken and we aim to burn!
"We don't fear the reaper"

FORSAKEN original

Trolls Against McCain

“I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ.” Mahatma Gandhi

WULFENSTAR

Friday, October 24, 2008 6:01 PM

Shit.

IF this is/was a hoax....that pisses me off.

Edited: Phoenix...a FUCKING HATE CRIME?!!!

Oh thats right, if it happens to someone who is white, its just plain old crime...if it happens to someone who is black...its a hate crime...

Somehow I keep forgetting that.

FUTUREMRSFILLION

Friday, October 24, 2008 6:03 PM

Someone find some crow for Wulf, and maybe some salt and ketchup as well.

Oh goodness, this is bad.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/greg-mitchell/fox-news-vp-if-mccain-wor_
b_137522.html

I am on The List. We are The Forsaken and we aim to burn!
"We don't fear the reaper"

FORSAKEN original

Trolls Against McCain

“I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ.” Mahatma Gandhi

RIGHTEOUS9

Friday, October 24, 2008 6:05 PM

I expect that wulfenstar will come on here as soon as he hears to make a full retraction of his slander by false association of all Obama supporters...and use that tried and true talent to now paint all Mccain supporters with the broad brush of lying drama queens.

any time now...

WULFENSTAR

Friday, October 24, 2008 6:08 PM

"I expect that wulfenstar will come on here as soon as he hears to make a full retraction of his slander by false association of all Obama supporters...and use that tried and true talent to now paint all Mccain supporters with the broad brush of lying drama queens.

any time now..."

If I was wrong in believing this woman, then I apologize.

RIGHTEOUS9

Friday, October 24, 2008 6:24 PM

Thanks Wulf,

that does mean something.

It was unexpected, but then it just shows how little a lot of us know about you. good to have you in the community

STORYMARK

Friday, October 24, 2008 6:37 PM

Note that he's appologizing for believing her, not for his broader implications about Obama supporters.

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

RIGHTEOUS9

Friday, October 24, 2008 6:39 PM

where he put the focus was different, somewhat oblique,

but in a way, its the same thing. He believed her mostly because he has a certain prejudice against the democratic party and Obama supporters. He's apologizing for making that leap of logic based upon unverified, unsound tropes...

or am i reading too much in here?

DEADLOCKVICTIM

Friday, October 24, 2008 6:45 PM

Quote:
Fox News VP: If McCain Worker 'Mutilation' Story Is a Hoax His Campaign Is 'Over'

"If the incident turns out to be a hoax, Senator McCain's quest for the presidency is over, forever linked to race-baiting."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/greg-mitchell/fox-news-vp-if-mccain-wor_
b_137522.html

gee, that came from FOX - it must be true....

RUE

Friday, October 24, 2008 6:45 PM

"Obama Supporters.

'Nuff said."

^
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Wulfie, THIS is what you need to apologize for. Not b/c you believed a repubican lying sack of shit (or maybe that's redundant) but b/c you smeared every person who supports Obama.

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PS I just thought I'd give you a little taste of the politically-based hatred that you so unthinkingly dish out.

WULFENSTAR

Friday, October 24, 2008 6:48 PM

"where he put the focus was different, somewhat oblique,

but in a way, its the same thing. He believed her mostly because he has a certain prejudice against the democratic party and Obama supporters. He's apologizing for making that leap of logic based upon unverified, unsound tropes...

or am i reading too much in here?"

No, Righteous, you are not reading too much here. You are correct.

RIGHTEOUS9

Friday, October 24, 2008 6:50 PM

thanks Wulf

"i Pardon you"

and not in the way the guy did in Shindler's list

WULFENSTAR

Friday, October 24, 2008 6:54 PM

Well,

Thats just a relief....lol

And this woman....ok, wtf?

Why did she do this? What was her motivation?

And before we all go pointing fingers.... don't pretend like all of Bama's supporters are sweet, innocent lambs.

Oh, and btw, just so you know....

I hate both parties equally.

RIGHTEOUS9

Friday, October 24, 2008 6:56 PM

if I were going to speculate wildly, and make up my own condition..

martyrdom syndrome?

I imagine she's also persecuted for her faith in Jesus.

Christians are so reviled and defiled in our nation, as you are well aware.

WULFENSTAR

Friday, October 24, 2008 7:01 PM

"I imagine she's also persecuted for her faith in Jesus.

Christians are so reviled and defiled in our nation, as you are well aware."

Yep, just like blacks are persecuted for being black in America...

- The truth is ALWAYS somewhere in the middle. Usually of more than 2 opposing viewpoints.

RIGHTEOUS9

Friday, October 24, 2008 7:10 PM

I would disagree,

respectfully that those are the same issue.

Christians are still a majority in this nation. Blacks have always been a minority.

The disparity between blacks and other races in the U.S. is evidence of one of two things, and if you can think of third, i'd like to hear it.

Either it means that blacks are inferior and cannot succeed at the level of the white man, or else, their experience is different than the white man's, and that ongoing experience leads to a disadvantage in the modern world, making any feelings of persecution or disenfranchisement more valid, wouldn't you think?

RUE

Friday, October 24, 2008 7:11 PM

"The truth is ALWAYS somewhere in the middle."

The Holocaust killed millions of Jews.
There was no Holocaust.

Is the truth somewhere in the middle ?

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The truth is where you find it.

WULFENSTAR

Friday, October 24, 2008 7:13 PM

Rue,

Yes.

But not in the way you want it to be.

SIGNYM

Friday, October 24, 2008 7:18 PM

THIS FROM AP

McCain volunteer made up robbery story
By JOE MANDAK – 39 minutes ago

Quote:
PITTSBURGH (AP) — Pittsburgh police say a McCain campaign volunteer made up a story of being robbed, pinned to the ground and having the letter "B" scratched on her face in a politically inspired attack. Maurita Bryant, the assistant chief of the police department's investigations division, says 20-year-old Ashley Todd is being charged with making a false report to police.

Todd, of College Station, Texas, initially said a black man robbed her at knifepoint Wednesday night and then cut her cheek after seeing a McCain sticker on her car.

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5iidrMKZwVNDDlEtkssY6t1xxhg9QD9411DE
01

Well, she and Joe the Plumber can go stand in the corner together.

When I saw the photo I kinda looked at it and thought: Backwards??? Gee, that's pretty literate for a common bank-robber.

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Let's party like its 1929.

PHOENIXROSE

Friday, October 24, 2008 7:24 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Wulfenstar:
What was her motivation?

Hate and fear.

You may say I'm a dreamer. But I'm not the only one.

RUE

Friday, October 24, 2008 7:25 PM

And that's the problem with trying to use facts with people who are ideologically driven - like you, Wulf. You don't know the difference between facts and opinions.

Quote:

Wulf
The truth is ALWAYS somewhere in the middle.

Rue
The Holocaust killed millions of Jews.
There was no Holocaust.
Is the truth somewhere in the middle ?

Wulf
Rue,
Yes.
But not in the way you want it to be.

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Silence is consent.

SIGNYM

Friday, October 24, 2008 7:25 PM

Quote:
"I imagine she's also persecuted for her faith in Jesus. Christians are so reviled and defiled in our nation, as you are well aware."

Yep, just like blacks are persecuted for being black in America...- Wulf

So Xtians are reviled and victimized by the (small number of) atheists who actually behave in a way that is more Xtian than Xtians, while blacks are reviled and victimized by (the much larger number of) whites, browns and yellows who feel at least some latent racism against blacks. Yeah, I can see that would be an equivalent experience!

ETA: Being the victim of any sort of "ism"- racism, sexism, ageism - is ALWAYS uncomfortable for the victim. As a short older white female progressive atheist I've been the target of various "isms", some of which were just momentarily scary and others which have had a long-lasting effect on my finances and prospects.

For the most part, the temporary stuff is just that. But if you live in a pervasive atmosphere of suspicision to downright hostility which effects your housing, education, social interactions, probability of being stopped and/or arrested... well, that's something else. Something which I do not believe Xtians experience on a day-to-day basis.

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Let's party like its 1929.

WULFENSTAR

Friday, October 24, 2008 7:38 PM

Rue,

If you say so.

But, let me elaborate on my earlier point.

The truth is always somewhere in the Middle.

Did the Holocaust happen? YES.

Was it evil? YES.

Was it confined to just the Jewish race? NO.

Did the Holocaust wipe out 6 million Jews? MAYBE.

What do I mean by that?

The Hollocaust wiped out millions of PEOPLE. These included, but were not limited to, gypsies, the mentally/physically handicapped, blacks, and social/political disidents.

How did it become a strictly Jewish Holocuast?

How EXACTLY did they arrive at the 6 million number?

Do I believe that millions of Jews were killed? YES

Do I think they know or are willing to say the real number? NO.

Point of fact, I dont think its really possible to know how many were killed/fled/died.

Before, during, and after WW2, Europe was a mess. They can't keep accurate account of where and who people are NOW, could they THEN?

So YES the Holocaust happened. NO it was NOT confined to JUST the Jewish people. YES, others were killed during it. NO, they don't have accurate figures on the death toll. YES, the death toll was in the MILLIONS.

YES, THE TRUTH IS ALWAYS IN THE MIDDLE.

RUE

Friday, October 24, 2008 7:44 PM

The Holocaust killed millions of Jews.
There was no Holocaust.

By your own words, you're going with "The Holocaust killed millions of Jews."

I didn't say ONLY Jews were killed, I didn't say how MANY millions of Jews were killed (just that it was more than 1M, hence plural, millions), I didn't say WHEN it started and when it ended.

While there may be a larger truth than "The Holocaust killed millions of Jews", it is in fact the truth that it happened, and the truth is NOT somewhere in between that and "There was no Holocaust".

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The truth is where you find it.

RIGHTEOUS9

Friday, October 24, 2008 7:44 PM

well,

I'm not sure about that...

the truth is wherever the hell the truth happens to be...(empirical truth, not truthiness)

the truth could be further to the left, or further to the right than anybody has considered. the truth could not be found in the middle of the sun revolves around the earth, and appolo rides the sun across the sky in his chariot. Both are wrong, and the truth is elsewhere.

WULFENSTAR

Friday, October 24, 2008 7:54 PM

Righteous,

Lol, yes you ARE correct.

However, that leads to another question.

Where did the Universe come from?

FUTUREMRSFILLION

Friday, October 24, 2008 7:58 PM

gas balls

I am on The List. We are The Forsaken and we aim to burn!
"We don't fear the reaper"

FORSAKEN original

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“I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ.” Mahatma Gandhi

WULFENSTAR

Friday, October 24, 2008 8:07 PM

"Gas balls"

Ok.

Im not a Creationist, mind, but I do feel that BOTH religion and Science have a place in our understanding of the Universe(s).

Again, in the middle somewhere.

PHOENIXROSE

Friday, October 24, 2008 8:08 PM

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dawn-teo/mccain-palin-and-the-luci_b_136
572.html

Just throwin' that out there. McCain supporters.

You may say I'm a dreamer. But I'm not the only one.

SIGNYM

Friday, October 24, 2008 8:09 PM

Ummm.... not always. Two propositions:

2+2=4
2+2=22

Does this mean that 2+2=13?

Just to modify your statement that the truth is not always between positions.... it may be at completely right angles, or even further out than you anticipate. But truth is often complicated. The question is: how does one even see the truth? We all view the world thru pretty heavy-duty filters made of assumption, expectation, even physical predisposition. (A flight of stairs looks completely different to a wheelie and a traceur.)

And how do we know the truth when we see it?

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Let's party like its 1929.

DEADLOCKVICTIM

Friday, October 24, 2008 8:17 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Wulfenstar:
Where did the Universe come from?

Late breaking news this hour... Theories on birth of universe supported by discovery of gargantuan extragalactic vagina... pictures at 10...

WULFENSTAR

Friday, October 24, 2008 8:18 PM

"Does this mean that 2+2=13?"

It can. Maybe. If by "13" you meant 1 + 3, but forgot the addition sign....

However, you make a good point.

Truth is not always in the middle of 2 opposing viewpoints.

How about:
Truth is usually in the middle, in terms of our political system.

DEADLOCKVICTIM

Friday, October 24, 2008 8:21 PM

no dude, truth is absolute.... period

WULFENSTAR

Friday, October 24, 2008 8:22 PM

Truth is, we may never know the truth of truth...

(OOOOOWWWWWWW BRAIN CRAMP!)

DEADLOCKVICTIM

Friday, October 24, 2008 8:29 PM

it's a life long quest..

FUTUREMRSFILLION

Friday, October 24, 2008 8:30 PM

truth is often in the eye of the beholder

Fact is absolute.

Truth is subjective.

I am on The List. We are The Forsaken and we aim to burn!
"We don't fear the reaper"

FORSAKEN original

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“I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ.” Mahatma Gandhi

WULFENSTAR

Friday, October 24, 2008 8:33 PM

Not true...because "facts" are often held to be true by belief.

Many moons ago, people believe it to be a fact that the sun revolved around the earth....

RUE

Friday, October 24, 2008 8:47 PM

There are facts, and then there is perception. The facts don't change, even if perception does.

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Silence is consent.

PIZMOBEACH

Friday, October 24, 2008 8:49 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by PhoenixRose:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dawn-teo/mccain-palin-and-the-luci_b_136
572.html

Just throwin' that out there. McCain supporters.

You may say I'm a dreamer. But I'm not the only one.

That's a brilliant and chilling article - thx for posting.

HERO

Friday, October 24, 2008 8:56 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Righteous9:
But Palin is the single most negative factor right now of the Mccain campaign Hero...

I think you are mistaken. Pre-Palin there were days when McCain showed up and was greeted by one local reporter (happened in Columbus in late July). Now 15,000 people just showed up at a local rally...to see Palin and the fella she's running with. I was there...it was Palin we came to see. 70% of us didn't vote for McCain in the primary...it was Palin that got us on our feet screaming that yes, we're all Joe the Plumber.

Palin energized the Republican campaign. The convention was over, dead, cancelled. The election was doomed to fail. Then Palin came along a lit a fire under the Republicans setting the stage for McCain to make his case.

The liberals (and dissaffected Republicans) have been saying this stuff about Palin since the day she was announced. Remember those articles about how she would drop out before the nomination or that she'd be quickly replaced since she was such a bad choice. I don't know anybody who could go through what she did that week between her announcement and her speech that could do what she did.

The idea that Palin is dragging the ticket is just plain wrong (which is why it made the papers). Its like that business of Palin not talking to the media, when the fact is she's done more interviews than Barrack, McCain, and Biden combined...Biden hasn't done a press conferance in more then a month, headline 'Palin Not Accessable to Media'.

Not to mention the blatent sexism in the coverage of her. Not many stories on Biden's hair and clothes...and just what is up with his wife and kids? Don't know? That's because there hasn't been much coverage of them...

H

FUTUREMRSFILLION

Friday, October 24, 2008 8:56 PM

facts are facts Wulf, belief is belief.

They BELIEVED the world was flat because they did not know better.

We know for a FACT that it is not.

I am on The List. We are The Forsaken and we aim to burn!
"We don't fear the reaper"

FORSAKEN original

Trolls Against McCain

“I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ.” Mahatma Gandhi

EVILDINOSAUR

Friday, October 24, 2008 10:17 PM

The alleged attackee has now said that she made it all up, so, Mccain supporters, nuff said

"Haha, mine is an evil laugh."

SIGNYM

Friday, October 24, 2008 11:17 PM

I have a maybe weird defintion of "truth", and I think the problem is that "lie" is not the exact opposite of "truth".

IMHO "truth" is how close your understanding is to reality. IMHO a better term would be "accuracy". A "fact" is a limited truth: it is an accurate representation of part of the picture, but not the whole picture. A "lie" is a deliberate misreprentation of what you believe is the truth. Since we will never fully grasp "the truth" most human statements lie somewhere between "facts" and "lies": "misunderstandings"

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Let's party like its 1929.

DEADLOCKVICTIM

Friday, October 24, 2008 11:58 PM

or as George Costanza would say...
"Jerry, just remember, it's not a lie if you believe it."

seems to work for Karl, W, Cheney & gang...

SIMONWHO

Saturday, October 25, 2008 12:16 AM

Congrats to Wulf for finding the perfect metaphor for this election: Republicans so desperate that they'll cut into their own face to spite the Obama supporter.

I also agree that she's the perfect Republican: mentally unstable, has no idea what is good for her, willing to stir up race hate, backed people those who have little to no interest in the facts.

Once again, full marks Wulfy!

KHYRON

Saturday, October 25, 2008 12:27 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by SimonWho:
Congrats to Wulf for finding the perfect metaphor for this election: Republicans so desperate that they'll cut into their own face to spite the Obama supporter.

I also agree that she's the perfect Republican: mentally unstable, has no idea what is good for her, willing to stir up race hate, backed people those who have little to no interest in the facts.

Once again, full marks Wulfy!

pwned!

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McCain/Palin: The first presidential ticket that features two candidates who have both been found to have violated ethics standards.

FREMDFIRMA

Saturday, October 25, 2008 12:34 AM

Toldja it was BS, there were too many glaring holes in that tale for it to fly.

Quote:
(As a side note..her being a Republican and NOT having a gun on her? WTF?)

That one crossed my mind too, but not everyone chooses to carry, whether they have the right or not, and a lot of localities make getting a CCW near impossible, alas...

Still, most of the girls I know woulda blown a hole in his ass right quick, the ONLY one who carries a caliber starting with a number less than "4" happens to be an 82 year old catholic sweetheart and former nun, in fact.

Not to sound a bit reverse-sexist, but I've noticed women in general once they decide to carry prefer something a little more... err, serious, than a 9Mil.

As for "hate crimes" that's always been ridiculous, I care more about whether or not a crime is committed, and how to prevent it, than to really give a shit about the motivation - cause in the end that matters damned little to the victim.

Oh, and FYI - while she would not admit it, one reason for Miss Malkins seemingly radical turnaround lately is that she got "a better offer" a'la Jaybe, to shill for a different side, is all.

You'd be a fool to lay any real trust in someone who's only loyalty is to who can shell out the best bribes, just sayin.

And one last little bit...

Quote:
There are facts, and then there is perception. The facts don't change, even if perception does.

Even that is not quite exactly true.

At the time of the accident that near killed me, it was a fact that there was no prosthetic technology available to me that would enable me to walk again.

There is now, partly cause of advancements in the field, and partly cause of the efforts of a bunch of lunatics who were willing to take the crack brained ideas of a desperate man and turn them into a reality.

I don't think any truth is absolute...

Except, maybe, that chug-a-lugging a half melted bowl of ice cream can be shockingly painful when that headache hits you, fekkin OW OW OW, dammit.

-Frem

It cannot be said enough, those who do not learn from history, are doomed to endlessly repeat it

SIGNYM

Saturday, October 25, 2008 1:14 AM

Quote:
seems to work for Karl, W, Cheney & gang...

Nah. The only one stupid enuf to believe the swill is Bush. Poor guy.

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RUE

Saturday, October 25, 2008 1:21 AM

In the history books he'll be the one left holding the bag. Well, he wanted to be president. All he had to do was do whatever they told him.

I guess it must have seemed like a good idea at the time.

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Silence is consent.

DEADLOCKVICTIM

Saturday, October 25, 2008 2:16 AM

i've just been watching the Rachel Maddow show - (i heart her)...
There was a segment dealing with the seeming lack of cohesion of the McCain campaign as of late - advisors jumping ship - letting things slip to the press that probably shouldn't be and a general sense of disorganization, and it occurred to me - the Bush doctrine is working. Not the "screw you, we'll bomb who we want, any time we want" doctrine that sexy Sarah didn't know jack about, but the plan to dominate the world by spreading stupidity. It appears that we have dumbed down so much that it's hard to find anyone qualified to run a presidential campaign.

Glad i didn't drink that kool-aid....

and yes, i know she's gay.... i still heart her

KWICKO

Saturday, October 25, 2008 3:55 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Wulfenstar:
Sure thing Future.

These type of people are YOUR constiuants.

The lowest of the low. The most ignorant of the ignorant.

In other words,

The animals.

Point of fact, Wulf, these type of people - those who would fake an attack in hopes of gaining sympathy for their flailing and failing candidate - are YOUR constituents. The lowest of the low, and the most ignorant of the ignorant.

In other words,

The McCain supporters.

Mike

KWICKO

Saturday, October 25, 2008 3:56 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by deadlockvictim:

or as George Costanza would say...
"Jerry, just remember, it's not a lie if you believe it."

seems to work for Karl, W, Cheney & gang...

Works great for 'Rappy, too.

KWICKO

Saturday, October 25, 2008 4:05 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by piratenews:
How many cars with Bush stickers have been run off the road or keyed in the past 8 years?

Not enough?

Just kidding.

PIRATENEWS

Saturday, October 25, 2008 4:10 AM

At East TN's big annual GOP rally in the Knoxville colluseum, it looked empty despite free food, free bands and free TVs. Not even a single political speech to rally the troops. Just politicians shaking hands for 4 hours, most of whom abandoned ship after 1 hour to party with the hookers.

Quote:
Originally posted by Hero:
Not many stories on Biden's hair and clothes...and just what is up with his wife and kids? Don't know? That's because there hasn't been much coverage of them...

H

What family? The family Biden killed in a DUI crash at Chappaquiddick?

Magic Bullet Man

What so funny President LBJ?

"President Biden has a nice ring to it...

I'd buy that for a dollar.

KWICKO

Saturday, October 25, 2008 4:15 AM

Quote:

Point of fact, I dont think its really possible to know how many were killed/fled/died.

Before, during, and after WW2, Europe was a mess. They can't keep accurate account of where and who people are NOW, could they THEN?

The main thing you've got going against you on this one is plain and simple facts. The main reason it was so damned easy to round up so many of the Nazis and convict them of war crimes was because they kept such intricate, detailed records of their deeds. The numbers widely agreed on are the ones that the Third Reich actually has RECORDS of - the real number is, if anything, quite a bit higher.

And it became "the JEWISH Holocaust" because the Reich referred to it as their "final solution to the Jewish problem." The Nazis themselves put the name on it.

But you are right in pointing out that a great many people OTHER than Jews were killed as well. Best counts on those numbers put them at five million. But the number of people who were killed solely for being Jewish is more than six million - more than all the other groups combined. THAT is why it's a JEWISH Holocaust - because the main target of it was the Jews, and the main aim was to wipe them from the face of the Earth forever.

Mike

KWICKO

Saturday, October 25, 2008 4:27 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by deadlockvictim:
i've just been watching the Rachel Maddow show - (i heart her)...
There was a segment dealing with the seeming lack of cohesion of the McCain campaign as of late - advisors jumping ship - letting things slip to the press that probably shouldn't be and a general sense of disorganization, and it occurred to me - the Bush doctrine is working. Not the "screw you, we'll bomb who we want, any time we want" doctrine that sexy Sarah didn't know jack about, but the plan to dominate the world by spreading stupidity. It appears that we have dumbed down so much that it's hard to find anyone qualified to run a presidential campaign.

Glad i didn't drink that kool-aid....

and yes, i know she's gay.... i still heart her

The viewers seem to heart her, too (and I'm among them) - her ratings have been beating O'Reilly's lately, and she's even beaten her mentor Olbermann some nights. He may have created a monster!

I liked her radio show when we still had Air America here in Austin, and I like her TV show even better.

And yes, just like the Khmer Rouge, the Khmer Rove has set about denouncing "intellectuals" until they've been left with nobody smart enough to run things the way they want them.

Mike

PIRATENEWS

Saturday, October 25, 2008 4:28 AM

Only 600,000 "jews" died in WW2, mostly by starvation and disease.

The US publisher of this book is in prison in ZioNazi Germany, where Truth is never a legal defense, and habeus corpus is dead in Knoxville Tennessee:

DID SIX MILLION REALLY DIE?
www.zundelsite.org/english/harwood/Didsix01.html

55-million total died in WW2.

The REAL Holocaust had nothing to do with jews, unless you count Adolf Hitler Shicklegruber Rothschild and the other 150,000 Khazar AshkeNAZI non-Semitic jews who ran Nazi Germany, the Gestapo and the Final Solution, to "jusitfy" stealing a Zionist Israel from Palestine, to creat a Jew World Odor, with Jerusalem as its world capital. Just like their false flag attacks on Germany in Operations Himmler, Canned Goods and Reichstag Fire.

The Jew World Odor just perped a $5-trillion bank robbery, and the sheeple still sit there in a stupor and take it up the tailpipe. Amazing. Only $5-Quad-Drillion in derivatives to go.

The Protocols of Zion 33rd Degree were right. Goyim are stupid cattle.
www.biblebelievers.org.au/przion1.htm

KWICKO

Saturday, October 25, 2008 5:23 AM

Okay, so to sum up:

A woman was allegedly attacked in Western Pennsylvania and had a "B" scratched into her face, all for having a McCain/Palin bumper sticker on her car. She said the assailant was a black man. Then it turns out the story was a complete fabrication on her part. No attack, she scratched her own face, and then blamed it on "the blacks".

Seems Murtha was right about racism in Western Pennsylvania. Hell, they're even bringing in outside racists from College Station, Texas, home of the George H. W. Bush Presidential Library.

So yes, there definitely IS racism in Western Pennsylvania. It's just not being perpetrated by the people who live there. It's being perpetrated by McCain campaign workers!

Mike

FREMDFIRMA

Saturday, October 25, 2008 11:40 AM

Just a thought on that, Mikey.

Maybe they shouldn't have handed over their guns when the Gov registered, then confiscated them, yes ?

That's why I am with the JFPO instead of the NRA.

They know what HAPPENS down that road.
And the damn NRA is busy helping fuckin pave it.

-F

FUTUREMRSFILLION

Saturday, October 25, 2008 1:37 PM

I don't know how true this is - time will tell, but if it is then the McCain camp has some mea culpa's to do -

http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/10/mccain_aide_ga
ve_reporters_inc.php

I am on The List. We are The Forsaken and we aim to burn!
"We don't fear the reaper"

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“I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ.” Mahatma Gandhi

HOSTILE17NOW

Sunday, October 26, 2008 1:29 AM

We only have two weeks left. now lets blow this thing and go home!.....

KWICKO

Sunday, October 26, 2008 5:43 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by hostile17Now:
We only have two weeks left. now lets blow this thing and go home!.....

Stay on target...