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I've got 3 aunts and a grandma who have died of breast cancer. I have one aunt who is still fighting against it.
Unless they're all really good at keeping secrets, none of them had abortions. The chances that the 4 aunts all had abortions and nobody knew it are astronomically small. I'll bet my life that my grandma didn't.
Women do die of breast cancer without having an abortion first. You do know this, right?
P.S. Could you start another thread about this or something? I shouldn't have commented on it not once, but twice now.
This is not the place.
Sounds like you have a strong family history of breast cancer. There are two genes that, when mutated, are primarily responsible for breast cancer called ... appropriately... BRCA1 and BRCA2, but there are also 7 other genes associated with breast cancer.
If I were you, I'd suggest that my female relatives get tested at least for BRCA1 and BRCA2 mutations, which bumps up cancer risk from an average of 13pct to a whopping 80pct!
These genes are responsible for DNA repair, so if your DNA gets damaged it doesn't get fixed.
This affects men, too. SIX, if you have a mutated BRCA1 gene, you have an 8pct lifetime risk of getting breast cancer (yes, men have breast tissue too) but if you have an abnormal BRCA2 gene your risk of prostate cancer is SEVEN TIMES normal. And since prostate cancer is the most common cancer among men (except for skin cancers), it could be a significant lifetime risk for you, too!
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My old man is the only man in the family that's going to make it to 70.
Most of them died in their early 50's.
I don't have a whole lot of time left in this realm.
I'm alright with that.
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:Quote:That sounds very autumnal. Too many days of gray skies with nothing to look at except bare leaves is so dreary.
Originally posted by Brenda:Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Enjoy it, Brenda. Getting toward that time a year again and we got to take them where we can get them.
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Very true and I reckon by about 7pm this evening the clouds will really start rolling in and then rain. Trees are already short of their leaves.
But, I do like those sunny, breezy autumn days. I hope you have many of those!
And I still like snow. Having lived in socal almost since I graduated from university means I never got burned out in the experience of having to get back and forth to work in it and, at my age, shoveling snow was fun. The quiet landscapes and sparkling snow, and especially Xmas lights shining thru and on the snow made up for the blizzards, mush, ice, shoveling and general pain in the *assedness of winter.
At my age, tho, I would probably want to escape.
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Today was the first day we had sun since last Friday.
Even then, it was hard to enjoy it since when I went out running errands I had bright sun beating down in my eyes, but couldn't wear sunglasses because my wipers were also on while we were getting poured on at the same time.
Did make for a beautiful rainbow to behold, ending right down the center line of my street when I got home though.
I don't really mind fall except seeing how quickly the days get short and knowing what's coming.
Especially hearing how expensive it's going to cost to heat this year. I'll probably be keeping it at a high of 58 this year, which I haven't done for 3 or 4 years now.
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:Quote:That sounds very autumnal. Too many days of gray skies with nothing to look at except bare leaves is so dreary.
Originally posted by Brenda:Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Enjoy it, Brenda. Getting toward that time a year again and we got to take them where we can get them.
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Very true and I reckon by about 7pm this evening the clouds will really start rolling in and then rain. Trees are already short of their leaves.
But, I do like those sunny, breezy autumn days. I hope you have many of those!
And I still like snow. Having lived in socal almost since I graduated from university means I never got burned out in the experience of having to get back and forth to work in it and, at my age, shoveling snow was fun. The quiet landscapes and sparkling snow, and especially Xmas lights shining thru and on the snow made up for the blizzards, mush, ice, shoveling and general pain in the *assedness of winter.
At my age, tho, I would probably want to escape.
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Today was the first day we had sun since last Friday.
Even then, it was hard to enjoy it since when I went out running errands I had bright sun beating down in my eyes, but couldn't wear sunglasses because my wipers were also on while we were getting poured on at the same time.
Did make for a beautiful rainbow to behold, ending right down the center line of my street when I got home though.
I don't really mind fall except seeing how quickly the days get short and knowing what's coming.
Especially hearing how expensive it's going to cost to heat this year. I'll probably be keeping it at a high of 58 this year, which I haven't done for 3 or 4 years now.
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I find the days are getting shorter faster and I have turn on lights earlier in the living room.
Got a little space heater I was given for Christmas a couple of years ago that I can turn on if I feel too chilly in the evening which is nice.
Looks like it is going to rain off and on all day.
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Laundry day for me in a couple of minutes then out for my walk to enjoy some of a long weekend up here.
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:Quote:I've got 3 aunts and a grandma who have died of breast cancer. I have one aunt who is still fighting against it.
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:Quote:I ran across some more info. Even Breast Cancer activists are getting sloppy, letting slip some actual facts instead of their PC mantra.
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:Quote:Although I finished with the fact that SJWs were denying it, I did not choose to include "cue denial by PC activist in 3...2...1..."
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:Quote:By now, it should be pretty apparent that neither JSF or I or about 100,000 million other Americans trust anything the medical community has to say about anything.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:Quote:FALSE
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:Quote:About 16 per 1,000 women in America had abortions in 2018. It was 29.3 per 1,000 in the 80s. So in any 10 year span, more than 15% of women have abortions.
Originally posted by 1KIKI:
I was musing on the percent of US women who'll get breast cancer in their lifetime. For some reason I thought the figure was 1 in 10. But nah! I told myself. That's too high. So I looked it up. It's actually more than 1 in 10, it's almost 13% of all women.
https://w
ww.c
ancer.gov/types/breast/risk-fact-sheet
Based on current incidence rates, 12.9% of women born in the United States today will develop breast cancer at some time during their lives.
But the breast cancer rate is only 13%.
First pregnancy abortions were already known to be the highest correlation with breast cancer. Sounds like it still is the case, despite the denials from SJWs.
https://www.cancer.gov/about-ca
ncer/causes-prevention/risk/hormones/reproductive-history-fact-sheet
Throw a ".gov" on the end of that URL and the trust plummets even further.
Think I missed the opportunity? But the reply was right on que.
And she even included the PC-scrubbed-of-inconvenient-facts linky which I implied but did not specify.
Back when that correlation was first learned, there was a huge storm of PC funds being thrown at gobs of new "studies" with pre-conclusions to disprove the facts. Overwhelming resources to thwart the reality and facts. But the real world facts have continued to prove out the correlation known long ago. Almost funny, if it wasn't so sad. So much "anti-breast-cancer" money thrown at getting more women breast cancer, it is a shame.
https://www.wcrf.org/dietandcancer/breast-cancer-statistics/
Of the nations with the highest rates of breast cancer, US apparently ranks 22nd.
On that list, curious how you don't see Brazil, Poland, Columbia, Mexico, Spain, Israel. Israel seems, from what I gather, to encourage offspring. The rest of those are highly Catholic nations.Quote:
In addition, the Panel judged there was strong evidence that lactation protects against breast cancer (unspecified menopausal status).
And from
https://www.wcrf.org/dietandcancer/breast-cancer/
another inconvenient fact:Quote:
Oral contraceptives containing both oestrogen and progesterone also cause a small increased risk of breast cancer in young women
https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rank
ings/highest-catholic-population
Of the 10 nations with the greatest Catholic Populations, only USA, France, and Italy are on the top 25 list for breast cancer. And that France entry might not count, not sure of the "metropolitan" notation - perhaps France as a whole does not rank in the top 25. These are the most aggressive abortion nations.
Of the 10 nations with the greatest percentage of Catholics, only Italy ranks in the top 25 of breast cancer nations.
Golly gee whiz, the nations with the lowest abortion rates also have the lowest breast cancer rates? Say it ain't so, Sally.
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Quote:You managed to wander through this adequately, as if you knew what you were talking about.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
So, o just looked it up. The average lifetime risk for prostate cancer for men is 13pct, just like the average lifetime risk for women is 13pct for breast cancer.
If your risk is seven times higher with BRCA+2 mutation, that's a wopping 90+pct risk!
Can be detected with PSA (prostate specific antigen) screening, via blood samples.
The overall risk for men is high lifetime exposure to testosterone. Men who started producing testosterone early (longer lifetime exposure) tend to have shorter legs relative to height, bc once they start puberty the growth plates in arm and bone legs fuse and stop growing bone length.
Until....
Quote:Good call.
This is similar to women. What is associated with breast cancers is a high lifetime exposure to estrogen. Early puberty increases the risk,
Quote:FIFY. Also, this contradicts your assertion that abortions don't really increase risk, when breastfeeding and abortion are mutually exclusive. Having first pregnancy just for the purpose of interrupting it via abortion is what actually INCREASES the risk. Having the4 first pregnancy COMPLETED is what has been found to decrease the risk.
while COMPLETED pregnancy and breastfeeding (reduce the risk)
It seems you are shooting yourself in the foot when you accidentally include actual facts into your denials.
Quote:here your claims are contradicted by WCRF.
(stops estrogen production), and chronic under-nutrition reduced the risk.
I don't know about men and hormones, but for women being fat also increases the risk, since fat cells also produce estrogen.
https://www.wcrf.org/dietandcancer/breast-cancer/
Quote from that link:
"being overweight or obese in young adulthood (between the ages of about 18 and 30 years) DECREASES the risk of premenopausal breast cancer
being overweight or obese in adulthood before the menopause DECREASES the risk of premenopausal breast cancer"
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And, in general, drinking too much can increase the risk of both breast and prostate cancers.
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Quote:Long weekend?
Originally posted by Brenda:
Laundry day for me in a couple of minutes then out for my walk to enjoy some of a long weekend up here.
You got Thanksgiving on Monday, or something else?
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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:Quote:Long weekend?
Originally posted by Brenda:
Laundry day for me in a couple of minutes then out for my walk to enjoy some of a long weekend up here.
You got Thanksgiving on Monday, or something else?
Just Thanksgiving Day up here in Canada on Monday.
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Back from my walk and I couldn't beat the rain. Started raining on my way home and it is still raining.
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Originally posted by Brenda:
I find the days are getting shorter faster and I have turn on lights earlier in the living room.
Got a little space heater I was given for Christmas a couple of years ago that I can turn on if I feel too chilly in the evening which is nice.
Looks like it is going to rain off and on all day.
Yeah. Heating is one of the very few reasons I sometimes miss the apartment lifestyle.
My house is pretty much wide open, being a tri-level. I'm only able to close off two of the bedrooms from the rest of the house, but by doing that I also close off 1/3 of the heat vents in the house as well.
A space heater could cost me a fortune to run since I'd be heating the whole house with it. As expensive as natural gas is going to be this winter, it would still cost more to heat the place with electric.
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Additional quotes are from JSF's link.
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https://www.wcrf.org/dietandcancer/breast-cancer/
being overweight or obese in young adulthood (between the ages of about 18 and 30 years) DECREASES the risk of premenopausal breast cancer
but
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being overweight or obese throughout adulthood INCREASES the risk of postmenopausal breast cancer
greater weight gain in adulthood INCREASES the risk of postmenopausal breast cancer
And since most breast cancer is POST menopausal
Quote:overall being overweight or obese increases the risk of breast caner.
breast cancer is more common after the menopause.
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It definitely sounds like fall up in the more northern US and southern Canada!
I hate winter, btw if it involves snow+cold. To me either one is more tolerable without the other. Snow just makes everything except being inside more ... difficult. Going out, driving, and walking, and just getting around involves so much more than simply doing. And being cold is sheer misery. Either snow, or cold would be so much more tolerable wihtout the other.
And then there's the very short days up that way. Down here in SoCal day length doesn't change all that much. But up there it really makes a difference! Down here in SoCal the longest day is about 14.5h, and the shortest day is of course 9.5h. But up near Portland the longest day is 15.75h and the shortest day is a mere 8.25h! And then there's all the winter storms to add to the gloom. How dreary. 
Still, one pays for all that green summer and the beautiful blue summer twilights somehow.
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Originally posted by 1KIKI:
It definitely sounds like fall up in the more northern US and southern Canada!
I hate winter, btw if it involves snow+cold. To me either one is more tolerable without the other. Snow just makes everything except being inside more ... difficult. Going out, driving, and walking, and just getting around involves so much more than simply doing. And being cold is sheer misery. Either snow, or cold would be so much more tolerable wihtout the other.
And then there's the very short days up that way. Down here in SoCal day length doesn't change all that much. But up there it really makes a difference! Down here in SoCal the longest day is about 14.5h, and the shortest day is of course 9.5h. But up near Portland the longest day is 15.75h and the shortest day is a mere 8.25h! And then there's all the winter storms to add to the gloom. How dreary.
Still, one pays for all that green summer and the beautiful blue summer twilights somehow.
Yeah... I think it's just a "grass is greener" thing.
I absolutely despise winter for all the reasons you stated. At least right now I have projects indoors to work on that will keep me busy and keep me from getting depressed. Working on that kitchen all last winter through spring made the time fly when otherwise it would have felt like forever like it always does.
Then summer comes and goes in an instant.
But we don't have scorpions or deadly spiders or 3 inch long mosquitos thanks to all that cold and snow. I hate bugs, but I don't know if I hate bugs more than our crap winters because I've never been around the truly horrifying ones.
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:Quote:
Originally posted by Brenda:
I find the days are getting shorter faster and I have turn on lights earlier in the living room.
Got a little space heater I was given for Christmas a couple of years ago that I can turn on if I feel too chilly in the evening which is nice.
Looks like it is going to rain off and on all day.
Yeah. Heating is one of the very few reasons I sometimes miss the apartment lifestyle.
My house is pretty much wide open, being a tri-level. I'm only able to close off two of the bedrooms from the rest of the house, but by doing that I also close off 1/3 of the heat vents in the house as well.
A space heater could cost me a fortune to run since I'd be heating the whole house with it. As expensive as natural gas is going to be this winter, it would still cost more to heat the place with electric.
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I can see a house like that being difficult to keep heated in winter.
Been hearing about a rise in heating up here to for home owners.
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Originally posted by 1KIKI:
It definitely sounds like fall up in the more northern US and southern Canada!
I hate winter, btw if it involves snow+cold. To me either one is more tolerable without the other. Snow just makes everything except being inside more ... difficult. Going out, driving, and walking, and just getting around involves so much more than simply doing. And being cold is sheer misery. Either snow, or cold would be so much more tolerable wihtout the other.
And then there's the very short days up that way. Down here in SoCal day length doesn't change all that much. But up there it really makes a difference! Down here in SoCal the longest day is about 14.5h, and the shortest day is of course 9.5h. But up near Portland the longest day is 15.75h and the shortest day is a mere 8.25h! And then there's all the winter storms to add to the gloom. How dreary.
Still, one pays for all that green summer and the beautiful blue summer twilights somehow.
Got cold and wet today and for tomorrow. Then dry out on Monday. So for where I am it is rain with odd dry days. Though as I've posted they are starting to see snow up in the Interior and warnings are being posted that people driving up to the Interior need snow tires on their cars.
Have to wait a while longer to see what winter will look like around where I am.
Yeah, the gloom of shorter days is a drag and there have already been a couple of storms roll through towards the end of September and there will be more of those.
True enough.
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Originally posted by Brenda:
I can see a house like that being difficult to keep heated in winter.
Been hearing about a rise in heating up here to for home owners.
Yeah. It's everywhere. At least we're not in the UK. They're going to pay 6 times as much this winter than they did last winter.
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Quote:What is so magical about a "first" pregnancy ending in abortion, as opposed to a second, or third? Isn't it just the total number of years being pregnant and breastfeeding the important factor? I see no biological mechanism for that "first pregnancy" trope. And since 30% of pregnancies end in spontaneous abortions, have "they" also studied the effect of THAT? That's beyond a woman's control and is certainly a very common experience.
JSF: Having first pregnancy just for the purpose of interrupting it via abortion is what actually INCREASES the risk.
Link a credible study, or be done.
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It seems the energy "supply chain" is effed up just about everywhere... here, the UK, the EU, northern China ... all for different reasons.
In the EU, it's because they refused to let Nordstream2 online, and - of course- didn't sign any long-term contracts with Russia, so now that they're facing a cold winter the spot-market supplies are very tight. Also, wind and solar are not, as it turns out, reliably reliable.
In the UK, apparently the lorry (truck) drivers delivering gasoline to the petrol (gas) stations are half non-citizens of the UK (mostly underpaid Poles and Romanians) so after Brexit they no longer have visas to work in the UK. so ... phfffft! There they went! Also, Britain had a year where the wind didn't blow, so they used up their natgas surplus to power electricity generation, and now the cupboard is bare and the spot market is... well... tight.
*There was an interesting discussion on The Duran about tapping and storing gas reserves. Gas in not like oil and coal: You can't store it very easily and "save it for later". Being a gas, it takes up huge volumes to store, which requires geological-sized formations to keep it in. Here in SoCal, SoCal gas used to store gas in depleted oilfields buying in in the summer and when it's cheap, pumping it underground and hen withdawing it in the winter. Until they had a major blowout near Porter Ranch, which was the simple result of them NOT having blowout protectors on any of their 100-odd onsite wells. Worst gas leak in USA history: think Deepwater Horizon excpet on land, with natgas.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/utility-paying-up-to-2418b-in-settle
ment-for-worst-methane-gas-leak-in-us-history/ar-AAOV2m3
I don't know what's going on with northern China. They have plenty of coal, but it's brown coal. I guess their problem is they sanctioned coal imports from Australia and now they have to scramble for supplies.
I think the problem in the USA is that hedging has polled the price of gas up, making utitilies reluctant to buy.
In the Mideast, war and sanctions are calling the shots.
So, panic buying is the order of the day, mostly due to policy failures and (in some cases) technical failures. It's predicted to subside in the next month or two.
SIX: Invest in a heated blanket, maybe!
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:Quote:
Originally posted by Brenda:
I can see a house like that being difficult to keep heated in winter.
Been hearing about a rise in heating up here to for home owners.
Yeah. It's everywhere. At least we're not in the UK. They're going to pay 6 times as much this winter than they did last winter.
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Very true. I've got friends in the UK and this winter is going to be miserable for them. If they are lucky it will be mild.
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Quote:I don't think I understand your concern.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Yeah. Heating is one of the very few reasons I sometimes miss the apartment lifestyle.
My house is pretty much wide open, being a tri-level. I'm only able to close off two of the bedrooms from the rest of the house, but by doing that I also close off 1/3 of the heat vents in the house as well.
I think your bathroom must be between the 2 bedrooms, right? Neither of your bedrooms has water, pipes in the walls, right?
I think your heater is currently in the attic.
Most heating systems have one vent in a common area, which does not have a shutter on the vent. Often the kitchen, but I don't recall where yours is. The rest of the vents would have a shutter, and/or valve in the ducting.
Basements generally gravitate to about 55 degrees, so don't need a huge amount of heating. Unless you are spending a bunch of time there.
If you close your bedrooms, and the heating vents in them, then you can heat just the living room and kitchen mostly, with a little bit of basement.
Heat rises, so residual diffusion would let some heat into the bedrooms anyhow. Most humans sleep best with a cooler environment - just tuck in with covers, comforter, blanket.
Heating just LR and K, plus bathroom seems reasonable. If not enough heat in one area, a fan to help pull out the heat from a vent can help.
Why do you need to heat more than the LR, K, bathroom?
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Quote:IIRC, most cancers are generally considered to be some natural process, but run amok, or in the wrong place/tissue, or unreigned reaction or hormonal situations.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:Quote:What is so magical about a "first" pregnancy ending in abortion, as opposed to a second, or third? Isn't it just the total number of years being pregnant and breastfeeding the important factor? I see no biological mechanism for that "first pregnancy" trope. And since 30% of pregnancies end in spontaneous abortions, have "they" also studied the effect of THAT? That's beyond a woman's control and is certainly a very common experience.
JSF: Having first pregnancy just for the purpose of interrupting it via abortion is what actually INCREASES the risk.
First pregnancy is the first full cycle of powerful hormone storms, in specific stages, over a specific time frame. When this cycle is interrupted in a way evolution did not anticipate, the hormone sequence, which is supposed to stop or counter whatever the prior hormone release did, is disrupted. Uncontrolled hormone release sequence results.
I do not recall that the full term but stillborn was specifically identified as increasing risk, but subsequent studies would indicate that the lack of breastfeeding would increase risk.
The studies I recall had indicated that miscarriage was equally increasing risk as induced abortions, but now I read that other studies have indicated miscarriages are not as high risk - perhaps evolution has found a way to work around that.
Remember, this was all supposed to be about the first pregancy, as I recall - much of what I am reading now does not differentiate between first and any other following pregnancy. I have not heard specifically of any study which stated that non-first pregnancies had any effect on risk, whether they were completed births, or stillbirths, or miscarriages, or induced abortions.
Quote:You have spent the past 30 years erasing, scrubbing, obfuscating that facts, remember? Hard to find the stuff you scrubbed.
Link a credible study, or be done.
But let's try one of your beloved .gov sites:
https://www.cancer.gov/types/breast/abortion-miscarriage-risk
Excerpts:
The relationship between induced and spontaneous abortion and breast cancer risk has been the subject of extensive research beginning in the late 1950s. Until the mid-1990s, the evidence was inconsistent. Findings from some (politically correct) studies suggested there was no increase in risk of breast cancer among women who had had an abortion, while findings from other studies suggested there was an increased risk. Most of these studies, however, were flawed in a number of ways that can lead to unreliable results.
Early age at first term birth is related to lifetime decrease in breast cancer risk.
The additional long-term protective effect of young age at subsequent term pregnancies is not as strong as for the first term pregnancy.
One of the particiapants was not adequately PC, and was more interested in solving brest cancer than in perpetuating breast cancer like the rest of the participants and other deniers:
The participant remains "convinced that the weight of available evidence suggests a real, independent, positive association between induced abortion and breast cancer risk." In a general statement, the participant noted that the workshop summary report contained no comment of dissent.
Persistence in other searches:
https://abortionrisks.org/index.php?title=Cancer_Risk_Associated_With_
Abortion
"Between 45-50% of U.S. women undergo induced abortion of their first pregnancy each year. It is well established that an early full-term childbirth has a protective effect against breast cancer in women."
"The researchers also stated that " data suggested an increased risk associated with abortion contrary to the reduction in risk associated with full-term births.""
"Data gathered from a
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It is actually sunny and dry out. Have to see what happens tomorrow.
Just a little more work done on my book and some music listen to.
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Quote:Cancerous tissues aren't even a little bit like normal. They ALL stem from genetic abnormalities, which means the cells are abnormal at the most basic level. Nothing about cancer is 'some natural process'. Since you have such a vital misunderstanding, I couldn't bother myself to read any further.
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
IIRC, most cancers are generally considered to be some natural process, but run amok, or in the wrong place/tissue, or unreigned reaction or hormonal situations.
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JSF, I'm going to create another thread for your hostility.
You turn every pleasant chat into a fight.
Who raised you, boy?
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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:Quote:I don't think I understand your concern.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Yeah. Heating is one of the very few reasons I sometimes miss the apartment lifestyle.
My house is pretty much wide open, being a tri-level. I'm only able to close off two of the bedrooms from the rest of the house, but by doing that I also close off 1/3 of the heat vents in the house as well.
I think your bathroom must be between the 2 bedrooms, right? Neither of your bedrooms has water, pipes in the walls, right?
I think your heater is currently in the attic.
Most heating systems have one vent in a common area, which does not have a shutter on the vent. Often the kitchen, but I don't recall where yours is. The rest of the vents would have a shutter, and/or valve in the ducting.
Basements generally gravitate to about 55 degrees, so don't need a huge amount of heating. Unless you are spending a bunch of time there.
If you close your bedrooms, and the heating vents in them, then you can heat just the living room and kitchen mostly, with a little bit of basement.
Heat rises, so residual diffusion would let some heat into the bedrooms anyhow. Most humans sleep best with a cooler environment - just tuck in with covers, comforter, blanket.
Heating just LR and K, plus bathroom seems reasonable. If not enough heat in one area, a fan to help pull out the heat from a vent can help.
Why do you need to heat more than the LR, K, bathroom?
I sleep in the livingroom. Bad habit I got into with all that apartment living. I like sleeping on a couch.
The basement gets down to the mid 40's regularly. It's only in the ground as deep as the crawl space, so there's still a lot of exposed wall. Crawl space gets even colder. I have to have the thermostat up to the 60's at least if it ever gets to the negative teens since the pipes at the front of the house froze on me one year (thankfully they didn't break).
Furnace is from the early 60's and is a real piece of shit. It's also an upflow furnace that has a duct going right under the cold roof which then splits to 6 insulated "snakes" that pump the air out from the ceilings on the 1st and 2nd floor. 1 in each bedroom, 1 in the 2nd floor bathroom, 2 in the livingroom and 1 in the kitchen.
I close off the bedrooms because except for the week or two my brother comes here around Christmas, I don't use them at all.
Long story short, my conern is money.
I've now lived through a very hot summer and even when I had my A/C on 24/7 for weeks straight I was completely comfortable in any spot in the house and my max bill (electric and gas combined) was $165... Only about $65 more than my bills in the hottest months back when I was only using fans.
Winter bills are a different story, and even though I keep it fairly cold in the house, my largest winter bill so far was around $210.
That was with good natural gas prices. If we see a huge increase this year like they're predicting, it's going to be an expensive winter heating season.
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
JSF, I'm going to create another thread for your hostility.
You turn every pleasant chat into a fight.
Who raised you, boy?
I did say a few days ago this conversation should be moved from the Garden, dinn't I?
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Quote:You were right, and I should have followed your example.
SIGNYM:
JSF, I'm going to create another thread for your hostility.
You turn every pleasant chat into a fight.
Who raised you, boy?
SIX: I did say a few days ago this conversation should be moved from the Garden, dinn't I?
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Quote:Somebody extremely religious in the old-fashioned, Old Testament, hellfire-and-brimstone, eternal-damnation way. Things have to pencil-out moralistically for him in very absolutist black-white terms.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Who raised you, boy?
So ...
Being gay gets punished by AIDS, and only the gay-lifestyle can bring AIDS on.
Getting an abortion the first time is a life-defining evil decision punished by breast cancer, and only women who had an abortion get breast cancer.
I'm sure I could find other examples.
ETA: "drug use" - where alcohol and tobacco aren't drugs, but pot is like heroin, and drug users are degenerates.
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Out for a walk soon on a bright sunny Turkey day. So have a good Monday everyone.
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Quote:Yes.
Originally posted by 1KIKI:Quote:Cancerous tissues aren't even a little bit like normal. They ALL stem from genetic abnormalities, which means the cells are abnormal at the most basic level. Nothing about cancer is 'some natural process'. Since you have such a vital misunderstanding, I couldn't bother myself to read any further.
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
IIRC, most cancers are generally considered to be some natural process, but run amok, or in the wrong place/tissue, or unreigned reaction or hormonal situations.
You are always so much smarter than the rest of the world.
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2015/07/150727092537.htm
"Cancer can be caused solely by protein imbalances within cells"
https://www.leeds.ac.uk/news-science/news/article/3730/study-finds-non
-genetic-cancer-mechanism
"Cancer can be caused solely by protein imbalances within cells"
Particularly when the rest of the world follows facts, and follows science.
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Quote:political
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
JSF, I'm going to create another thread for your hostility.
You turn every pleasant
Quote:Interesting.
chat into a fight.
I have heard of PC activists, denialists, Libtards, SJWs, and such who, when faced with facts, truth, actual data, real math, declare such to be "hostile."
This is the first time I recall actually seeing this phenomena happen.
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Quote:You have spent the past 30 years erasing, scrubbing, obfuscating that facts, remember? Hard to find the stuff you scrubbed.
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:Quote:IIRC, most cancers are generally considered to be some natural process, but run amok, or in the wrong place/tissue, or unreigned reaction or hormonal situations.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:Quote:What is so magical about a "first" pregnancy ending in abortion, as opposed to a second, or third? Isn't it just the total number of years being pregnant and breastfeeding the important factor? I see no biological mechanism for that "first pregnancy" trope. And since 30% of pregnancies end in spontaneous abortions, have "they" also studied the effect of THAT? That's beyond a woman's control and is certainly a very common experience.
JSF: Having first pregnancy just for the purpose of interrupting it via abortion is what actually INCREASES the risk.
First pregnancy is the first full cycle of powerful hormone storms, in specific stages, over a specific time frame. When this cycle is interrupted in a way evolution did not anticipate, the hormone sequence, which is supposed to stop or counter whatever the prior hormone release did, is disrupted. Uncontrolled hormone release sequence results.
I do not recall that the full term but stillborn was specifically identified as increasing risk, but subsequent studies would indicate that the lack of breastfeeding would increase risk.
The studies I recall had indicated that miscarriage was equally increasing risk as induced abortions, but now I read that other studies have indicated miscarriages are not as high risk - perhaps evolution has found a way to work around that.
Remember, this was all supposed to be about the first pregancy, as I recall - much of what I am reading now does not differentiate between first and any other following pregnancy. I have not heard specifically of any study which stated that non-first pregnancies had any effect on risk, whether they were completed births, or stillbirths, or miscarriages, or induced abortions.Quote:
Link a credible study, or be done.
But let's try one of your beloved .gov sites:
https://www.cancer.gov/types/breast/abortion-miscarriage-risk
Excerpts:
The relationship between induced and spontaneous abortion and breast cancer risk has been the subject of extensive research beginning in the late 1950s. Until the mid-1990s, the evidence was inconsistent. Findings from some (politically correct) studies suggested there was no increase in risk of breast cancer among women who had had an abortion, while findings from other studies suggested there was an increased risk. Most of these studies, however, were flawed in a number of ways that can lead to unreliable results.
Early age at first term birth is related to lifetime decrease in breast cancer risk.
The additional long-term protective effect of young age at subsequent term pregnancies is not as strong as for the first term pregnancy.
One of the particiapants was not adequately PC, and was more interested in solving brest cancer than in perpetuating breast cancer like the rest of the participants and other deniers:
The participant remains "convinced that the weight of available evidence suggests a real, independent, positive association between induced abortion and breast cancer risk." In a general statement, the participant noted that the workshop summary report contained no comment of dissent.
Persistence in other searches:
https://abortionrisks.org/index.php?title=Cancer_Risk_Associated_With_
Abortion
"Between 45-50% of U.S. women undergo induced abortion of their first pregnancy each year. It is well established that an early full-term childbirth has a protective effect against breast cancer in women."
"The researchers also stated that " data suggested an increased risk associated with abortion contrary to the reduction in risk associated with full-term b
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Please ignore JSF in this thread, unless he learns to be polite.
I created a thread for this discussion here
http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=64614
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I don't remember if I ever mentioned anything in here about my recent computer acquisitions...
I have yet to recieve in the post an all in one computer that is going to replace the one I got from my brother years ago that has been driving me nuts recently with the constant slowdown and/or complete non-responsiveness at times. That thing should fly compared to my current one after I put the SSD I bought a few years ago into it and get it all set up.
I also bought two desktops from some dude on Craigslist. They're old business PCs. One of them blows away even the new AIO I've got coming, while the other one is right about on par with it, specs wise. I wasn't expecting much, but boy was I shocked at how well they both work. They're the first PC's I've ever had with SSD drives, and these things FLY. Even the lower spec one is better than any PC I've ever owned. It's amazing being able to install an OS in under 10 minutes, and have a computer that boots up and shuts down in mere seconds.
They're so tiny. And it's amazing what newer PCs are capable of doing with only a 240 Watt power supply available to them. My last home made PC had a 700 Watt power supply. They always run at the full wattage, so that thing would burn up over 2 kilowatt hours every 3 hours it was turned on.
The lesser one is going to be my aunts first computer. I've been trying to get her to buy an entry level one for months ever since she got a smart phone and I was able to shut down my internet and stream movies to my TV and use my computer for youtube and email by using her unlimited 5G phone as a hotspot.
We're going to set it up in her bedroom and use her flat screen TV as the monitor, just like I've done with mine in my living room.
Got a few wifi USB nubs on the way so I don't need to have a 12ft wire going to my TV stand and she can connect hers to her phone.
Both of those desktops combined, including the wifi, were cheaper than the AIO, and that was already dirt cheap.
Huge upgrade to my quality of life and soon to be one for my aunt who doesn't even understand yet how cool this is going to be, and it hardly cost me anything except about a day's worth of work getting them set up and backed up proper.
Had I bought these three as recertified refurbs, it would have been over a thousand bucks. I didn't spend 1/4th that.
Unless the prices for chips ever become reasonable again, it's possible that my days of building PCs are done. The price of a middling level Ryzen CPU alone is just about as much as I paid for all three of these computers.
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Out for my walk soon. Think I need my umbrella today.
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Quote:I hope it stays dry for you anyway.
Originally posted by Brenda:
Out for my walk soon. Think I need my umbrella today.
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Quote:Seeing as kitchen renovation kept you occupied all last winter, do you have anything lined up for this winter?
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I don't remember if I ever mentioned anything in here about my recent computer acquisitions...
I have yet to recieve in the post an all in one computer that is going to replace the one I got from my brother years ago that has been driving me nuts recently with the constant slowdown and/or complete non-responsiveness at times. That thing should fly compared to my current one after I put the SSD I bought a few years ago into it and get it all set up.
I also bought two desktops from some dude on Craigslist. They're old business PCs. One of them blows away even the new AIO I've got coming, while the other one is right about on par with it, specs wise. I wasn't expecting much, but boy was I shocked at how well they both work. They're the first PC's I've ever had with SSD drives, and these things FLY. Even the lower spec one is better than any PC I've ever owned. It's amazing being able to install an OS in under 10 minutes, and have a computer that boots up and shuts down in mere seconds.
They're so tiny. And it's amazing what newer PCs are capable of doing with only a 240 Watt power supply available to them. My last home made PC had a 700 Watt power supply. They always run at the full wattage, so that thing would burn up over 2 kilowatt hours every 3 hours it was turned on.
The lesser one is going to be my aunts first computer. I've been trying to get her to buy an entry level one for months ever since she got a smart phone and I was able to shut down my internet and stream movies to my TV and use my computer for youtube and email by using her unlimited 5G phone as a hotspot.
We're going to set it up in her bedroom and use her flat screen TV as the monitor, just like I've done with mine in my living room.
Got a few wifi USB nubs on the way so I don't need to have a 12ft wire going to my TV stand and she can connect hers to her phone.
Both of those desktops combined, including the wifi, were cheaper than the AIO, and that was already dirt cheap.
Huge upgrade to my quality of life and soon to be one for my aunt who doesn't even understand yet how cool this is going to be, and it hardly cost me anything except about a day's worth of work getting them set up and backed up proper.
Had I bought these three as recertified refurbs, it would have been over a thousand bucks. I didn't spend 1/4th that.
Unless the prices for chips ever become reasonable again, it's possible that my days of building PCs are done. The price of a middling level Ryzen CPU alone is just about as much as I paid for all three of these computers.
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:Quote:I hope it stays dry for you anyway.
Originally posted by Brenda:
Out for my walk soon. Think I need my umbrella today.
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Actually it did.
But there is a good deal of clouds out so I would imagine somewhere is getting rain.
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Back from my walk and one Christmas got and a couple of other things done for today. Came back and decided to do a little bill shredding.
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Quote:Is that $210 before or after we fiddled with your heater a while back? I was thinking we fixed something that made it more efficient.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Long story short, my conern is money.
Winter bills are a different story, and even though I keep it fairly cold in the house, my largest winter bill so far was around $210.
That was with good natural gas prices. If we see a huge increase this year like they're predicting, it's going to be an expensive winter heating season.
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The rain has arrived.
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If nothing else, I hope the sound of the rain as you go to sleep is enjoyable.
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Holy crap... that All In One is HUGE. I guess I underestimated how much larger a 24" monitor would be compared to a 21" monitor on my coffee table.
It's making me reconsider my plan here.
Had I known I was going to be getting two really nice desktops for near-nothing only several days later, I probably wouldn't have bought it. My TV in my living room is big enough where I'd have no problem using that as my monitor even from across the room if I get a wireless keyboard/mouse combo, so I don't really need an AIO on my coffee table like I've become accustomed to over the years.
Not that I have much furniture upstairs, but this AIO could be a TV/Computer combo in the small bedroom. I'm even considering buying another of those tiny desktops for myself when I get one for my friend, assuming the guy still has two left. That could be put on the TV in the master bedroom, and just basically be a backup in case any of the other ones fail over time.
I've got a lot of options now. I didn't realize how quickly the tech world had been passing me by. I never would have suspected I could get machines capable of doing what these things do for so little money in 2021.
But yeah.... I don't think a 24" AIO is going to work on my coffee table. 
Maybe if it were an HP AIO with a low center of gravity, but those DELL AIO's come on a stand that probably wouldn't take to kindly to me swinging my coffee table all over the floor when I'm vacuuming or just moving it out of the way on the rare occasion that I'm watching something on the TV.
Hell.....
Now that I think about it, maybe I could just mount the AIO to the far wall in the porch when I get it remodeled. I don't really want to put a giant TV out there that would entice somebody to break my shiny new windows to steal. It's small enough where I think the chances of that happening would be pretty low, but it is still large enough to put a game on or something while I have people over for poker night (yes... that will be a thing when I finally get my house in shape for it).
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Well, it's stopped raining for today. Out for my walk soon.
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Originally posted by 1KIKI:
If nothing else, I hope the sound of the rain as you go to sleep is enjoyable.
I think it did.
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Quote:Hey, that sounds like an awesome idea, SIX! Having people over to play cards... when I was little, my step-aunt would invite the family over for Xmas and New Year's, and it always turned into a card-fest.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Holy crap... that All In One is HUGE. I guess I underestimated how much larger a 24" monitor would be compared to a 21" monitor on my coffee table.
It's making me reconsider my plan here.
Had I known I was going to be getting two really nice desktops for near-nothing only several days later, I probably wouldn't have bought it. My TV in my living room is big enough where I'd have no problem using that as my monitor even from across the room if I get a wireless keyboard/mouse combo, so I don't really need an AIO on my coffee table like I've become accustomed to over the years.
Not that I have much furniture upstairs, but this AIO could be a TV/Computer combo in the small bedroom. I'm even considering buying another of those tiny desktops for myself when I get one for my friend, assuming the guy still has two left. That could be put on the TV in the master bedroom, and just basically be a backup in case any of the other ones fail over time.
I've got a lot of options now. I didn't realize how quickly the tech world had been passing me by. I never would have suspected I could get machines capable of doing what these things do for so little money in 2021.
But yeah.... I don't think a 24" AIO is going to work on my coffee table.
Maybe if it were an HP AIO with a low center of gravity, but those DELL AIO's come on a stand that probably wouldn't take to kindly to me swinging my coffee table all over the floor when I'm vacuuming or just moving it out of the way on the rare occasion that I'm watching something on the TV.
Hell.....
Now that I think about it, maybe I could just mount the AIO to the far wall in the porch when I get it remodeled. I don't really want to put a giant TV out there that would entice somebody to break my shiny new windows to steal. It's small enough where I think the chances of that happening would be pretty low, but it is still large enough to put a game on or something while I have people over for poker night (yes... that will be a thing when I finally get my house in shape for it).
Fun!
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When I lived with my brother for a few years we always had poker night almost every week. Just a $20 buy in for chips and we'd play Hold 'em. Cheap way to play no limit, and a good way not to lose any friends when people start betting more than they can afford.
I never did that with my old buddies. Now that we're back in touch, I'm looking forward to having a place where we can get together.
P.S. About pre-built computers. I would certainly recommend DELL over HP if anybody here is ever in the market for them... at least right now (I still haven't put the DELL through any stress tests).
I'm basing this purely on how easy it is to modify and upgrade them, as well as how good the support and driver downloads are, as well as how extensive one company adds additional support for their product over the other.
Opening up the DELL AIO and accessing what you need is far more easy than I ever would have imagined it could be after having to deal with opening up the HP AIO a few years back. And HP customer support on the website is abysmal compared to DELL's.
Granted, the ease in which you can get to the stuff in the HP small form factor desktops is quite nice as well, so maybe HP has remedied this problem over the years afterall. I can only speak to my own personal experience.
Out to mow the lawn now while the new system is updating. Can't wait to get this thing all set up and see how it compares to the desktop.
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Back from my walk and still dry but lots of cloud cover with a bit of blue trying to peak through. Suppose to rain tonight and into tomorrow and possibly the weekend.
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Just about finished setting the AIO up. I managed to mow the front lawn before the thunderstorms swept in, but didn't get to the back. Oh well.
Bringing up YouTube looks phenomenal on it. It can't do 4k (nothing I own can), but it's the first thing I can put the 1440p60 HD setting without any lag, and with only a 24" screen it looks amazing.
That being said, I'm slightly worried about how long it took to install everything compared to the desktop, but maybe I'm just thinking the desktop was quicker since I was doing two at the same time and had more to keep me busy. I can't imagine that this thing is really slower in any regards than the desktop is. It's the only machine I have with DDR4 memory, and the processor is something like 3.7ghz. The desktop is barely over 3ghz with DDR3 memory, and the desktop I'm giving my aunt only has DDR2 memory.
The only real negative is that I can't do much more to it for speed increases. I'm stuck with the integrated graphics chip. I can upgrade from two 4GB sticks to two 8GB sticks for double the memory if I ever want to shell out for that. I could also get a larger sized SSD than the 250GB one down the road too, but I don't think one SSD is faster than another one (I could be wrong about that?).
The desktop has a slower processor and only uses DDR3 memory, but it's only got 8GB in there now and is upgradable to 32GB. I also have the option to pick up a low-to-mid-level graphics card that will work with only a 240 watt power supply to unload any graphics processing off of the CPU, which would probably be more of a speed increase than anything that I could do to the AIO in the future.
Overall, I'm EXTREMELY happy with these purchases.
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Time to let this thing do its updates, so later peeps.
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My mom had card club. Some ladies would rotate the hosting duties each week. We would know that the night would be spent outside of the room they used, because that day was "cleaning day" at our house.
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Quote:I don't think I understand. Your desk surface is not deep enough to set the monitor back further? Or are you saying the keyboard is integral to the monitor - neither is detachable?
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Holy crap... that All In One is HUGE. I guess I underestimated how much larger a 24" monitor would be compared to a 21" monitor on my coffee table.
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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:Quote:I don't think I understand. Your desk surface is not deep enough to set the monitor back further? Or are you saying the keyboard is integral to the monitor - neither is detachable?
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Holy crap... that All In One is HUGE. I guess I underestimated how much larger a 24" monitor would be compared to a 21" monitor on my coffee table.
An AIO is an All In One. The monitor is the computer.
It is replacing the one I have had on my coffee table for the last 5 or so years, in my living room, where I do about 90% of my indoor living. Keyboard/mouse attached to it via USB.
It actually takes up less real estate on the surface of the coffee table because it's on a base rather than three legs like the HP AIOs, but it's so much higher and wider than the old one, and I won't be able to move the coffee table around to vacuum or just out of my way if I wanted to watch the TV without being really careful since it doesn't have the low center of gravity that the old one had.
I think I'm just going to have to get a wireless mouse/keyboard combo and use the new desktop computer with my TV as a monitor for in the living room and find another use for the new AIO.
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I am off to mah jong in the morning, so I will see everyone in the afternoon.
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All in one, example
all of the "workings" of a PC -Video card, memory, CPU, hard drive, power supply etc - are packed into the case right behind the display. Think of it as a thin laptop, on a stand. Just add keyboard and mouse
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Yeah... Except the base on the Dell isn't even as substantial as the one in that pic.
It's heavy duty and wouldn't break, but it's only about 6" by 5", with a high center of gravity.
The old HP AIO had two tiny little legs on the bottom of the screen, with a large adjustable back plate that was around 1/3rd of the width of the screen and served as the final leg in a tripod.
Zero chance the HP would ever fall over when moving the coffee table. Almost 100% chance the DELL will fall if great care isn't taken when moving the table.
I put the new DELL through the paces before going to bed last night and I can say for sure that it's the best performer of the bunch. I'm actually kind of blown away by how well it works. The only upgrade I did to it was putting that SSD I bought years ago in there. The 500GB HD that came with it is now going to go in the desktop as a data drive, since there's room for a 2nd drive in there.
Unless we make the jump to quantum computing any time soon, these things should serve me well for years.
Not bad, when Ryzen CPU's are going for anywhere from $225 to over $900 and people are paying over $1,000 for graphics cards.
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Here.... Got some pictures.
The old HP with a low center of gravity is impossible to knock over.
The new DELL is probably going to be dangerous to keep on the coffee table.
(Not to mention that with a monitor that's an additional 3", and all that extra height under the bottom of the screen, it's kind of ridiculous on a coffee table)
I'm actually not saying that the DELL design is bad. I think for the way that most people would use it, it's a superior design. Most people aren't going to have a concern about needing a low center of gravity.
The problem the HP has is that it takes up so much room. The DELL is very low profile on your desk, even with a larger monitor.
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On further inspection, this paragraph is bullshit:
The other problem the HP design has is that you must ALWAYS have the monitor facing up. Not only can you have the DELL facing totally straight, but you can even have it facing down if you wanted to. You've got more options with the DELL if glare is a problem in your house (which it is in mine now that I have privacy film everywhere instead of blinds).
No. You can't turn it down. You can't even make it straight. You can make it a bit more straight than you can with the HP though. If you try to make the HP straight beyond a certain point, it won't stand up anymore since that rear leg is too short to accommodate that.
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Back from mah jong and lunch. Still dry out but we shall see.
Had a pretty good morning at mah jong. I got second prize. Had a couple of decent hands that at the end netted me over 10,000 points.
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I still don't understand your issue with the screen size.
OK, so your All In One has detached Mouse and Keyboard, so it is not actually All In One, like a laptop is.
So why not set your monitor back a tad, if the screen is larger than you are comfy with? An extra 3" diagonally must be about and extra 2" width. I don't get the problem.
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I still don't understand your issue with the screen size.
OK, so your All In One has detached Mouse and Keyboard, so it is not actually All In One, like a laptop is.
It is an All in One. All in One means that you don't have a separate monitor and tower.
A laptop is a laptop. Even if I had a laptop, I'd use a mouse because trackpads are cancer.
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So why not set your monitor back a tad, if the screen is larger than you are comfy with? An extra 3" diagonally must be about and extra 2" width. I don't get the problem.
I like the extra size.
The problem is that it sits on a coffee table in my living room. At least the old one did. This thing is top-heavy because of the design, unlike the impossible to knock over HP model. The extra size on top of the fact that the bottom of the screen is nearly 4" higher than the old one means that it will be moved quite a bit when I want to watch the TV on top of any time I'm moving it around to vacuum.
Setting the monitor back further on the table just means a bigger risk that it comes crashing to the floor if it fell over.
It's my best computer I have now, but it probably won't see much use because I'll have to put it up in a bedroom in a place where it won't be moved around much, and I'll have to get a wireless keyboard and mouse to use the desktop that's attached across the room to my TV instead.
It's fine. The one I have on my TV now is more than I need. It's just a shame that I'd already bought this AIO online first. Had I known I'd be getting such a good desktop only a few days later for next to nothing I wouldn't have bought it.
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Back from mah jong and lunch. Still dry out but we shall see.
Had a pretty good morning at mah jong. I got second prize. Had a couple of decent hands that at the end netted me over 10,000 points.
Prize?
What did you get?
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Just finished a sweet harware mod on the desktop.
I had an extra 500GB HDD that I didn't want to go to waste after I swapped it out of the AIO for a 250GB SSD I'd bought years ago.
The problem was, I had nowhere to put it. There was room in the desktop for it, but no way to mount it.
I found an old metal "box" I must have saved from an old computer back in my drinking days for some reason that had tons of small holes on all sides, and using a pair of tin snips, needle nose pliers, an aluminum gutter bending tool and miscellaneous computer screws I'd saved over the years as well as some that were on the metal of the case itself, I was able to mount this 2nd hard drive in there nice and tight and triple my available internal hard drive space.
That's the type of ingenuity you need when you're not made of money and don't have yourself a 3D printer on standby.
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Back from mah jong and lunch. Still dry out but we shall see.
Had a pretty good morning at mah jong. I got second prize. Had a couple of decent hands that at the end netted me over 10,000 points.
Prize?
What did you get?
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I won $7CD.
Been over a month and a half since I won anything playing.
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The rain is back and suppose to be around all weekend.
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Back from mah jong and lunch. Still dry out but we shall see.
Had a pretty good morning at mah jong. I got second prize. Had a couple of decent hands that at the end netted me over 10,000 points.
Prize?
What did you get?
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I won $7CD.
Ah. I didn't know you played for prizes. Even just a little bit makes it more fun and interesting IMO. That's cool.
What's the buy in?
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Back from mah jong and lunch. Still dry out but we shall see.
Had a pretty good morning at mah jong. I got second prize. Had a couple of decent hands that at the end netted me over 10,000 points.
Prize?
What did you get?
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I won $7CD.
Ah. I didn't know you played for prizes. Even just a little bit makes it more fun and interesting IMO. That's cool.
What's the buy in?
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Yeah, we do. 1st, 2nd, 3rd and a booby prize.
It does because sometimes 1st can be over $10 but that depends on how many people are playing. The last time I got 1st was back in August just after we restarted and I won $14.
The buy in is $2.
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Out for walk in the rain. This weekend is going to be a wash out. Rain all weekend.
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We never used to play for prizes at work, just points on a scratchpad. But the organizer of the bridge game (the Lab Manager, who was a bridge Master) or his designee had some small plastic animals in a table drawer that would come out whenever somebody did something kinda dumb, and we would all laugh about it. There was a lot of "table talk" and good-natured ribbing.
The only one I remember now was a small triceratops, which stood for bidding "too far, too fast" (sometimes called TF squared). It was lighthearted fun, since none of the other players (who were all VERY much better than I was!) took it seriously.
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Though I'm not a gambler, I find I can't really take any games seriously if there isn't something on the line, even if it's pretty insignificant.
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We never used to play for prizes at work, just points on a scratchpad. But the organizer of the bridge game (the Lab Manager, who was a bridge Master) or his designee had some small plastic animals in a table drawer that would come out whenever somebody did something kinda dumb, and we would all laugh about it. There was a lot of "table talk" and good-natured ribbing.
The only one I remember now was a small triceratops, which stood for bidding "too far, too fast" (sometimes called TF squared). It was lighthearted fun, since none of the other players (who were all VERY much better than I was!) took it seriously.
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That's a cool idea too.
We're playing for fun too and we keep points which is how the bit of money is awarded.
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Horrible, soggy day out. And I went out and didn't realize that I left a pocket on my back pack unzipped. I was having a coffee when I noticed. Luckily the pocket doesn't have anything important in it.
Got something for supper and picked up another Christmas present. Figured I'd better grab it while it was in.
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Yeah... Soggy here too. Been that way for days since the 80 degree burst went away.
40's tonight. Cold weather's coming.
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Yeah... Soggy here too. Been that way for days since the 80 degree burst went away.
40's tonight. Cold weather's coming.
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Yup, there is an atmospheric river going over where I am and it is dumping loads of rain. Soggy tomorrow to.
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I actually woke up to sun for the first time in about a week this morning.
Still don't think I'll be able to mow the lawn though unless it holds all day long and some of this dries up.
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More rain today but I need some fresh air. So I am out for my walk soon.
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I actually woke up to sun for the first time in about a week this morning.
Still don't think I'll be able to mow the lawn though unless it holds all day long and some of this dries up.
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Lucky you. Still raining where I am.
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Hey there Brenda! Much as I like the rain, I too don't enjoy going out into the sogginess. So at least your new place is dry and warm and you can enjoy coming home.
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I was able to mow, although I probably shouldn't have. It took a lot longer than it needed to since I basically had to mow twice because the bag wasn't filling up properly and I would have had clump trails otherwise.
After that I realized that it was starting to get cold and I still hadn't changed the oil in my car, so I did that too. That's a bit harder now that I can't do it out on the driveway. Certainly a bit messier. Oh well. It's done now.
Going back to working on my new PCs. Finally got in touch with that guy again and I'll be getting one for my friend this week.
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Hey there Brenda! Much as I like the rain, I too don't enjoy going out into the sogginess. So at least your new place is dry and warm and you can enjoy coming home.
Yup, I just watch the rain falling outside the balcony and don't worry about the cold.
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It wasn't raining when I went out but it was on my way back.
Had to switch coats. Time for my winter one as the rains are coming and the cold when I am out.
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Yuk... 41 degrees tonight, and it sure feels like it by the windows.
I'm holding strong. No heat until November.
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Well, the rain has stopped but still just a slow Sunday around me.
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Slow Sundays are good!
Other than that, how're doing Brenda?
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Hey Signy - just saying hi!
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Hi back!
Not been feeling well, so haven't been posting much.
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Slow Sundays are good!
Other than that, how're doing Brenda?
I'm not doing too bad. Just trying to get organized for Christmas which is mostly Christmas presents. I've got a couple and hoping to get one more in the next couple of days but it is a birthday present that has to be sent to Alberta. But other than that not much. Just mah jong.
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Out for a walk in a bit on a dry day but I think I will take my umbrella and hit another thrift store in my city. Lady I know says that they have lots of Christmas decorations and I am looking for another set of Russian nesting dolls. Mine are old and starting to loose their paint. So we shall see.
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Slow Sundays are good!
Other than that, how're doing Brenda?
Quote:Hey, absolutely nothing to do with anything, but how is your brother doing?
Originally posted by Brenda:
I'm not doing too bad. Just trying to get organized for Christmas which is mostly Christmas presents. I've got a couple and hoping to get one more in the next couple of days but it is a birthday present that has to be sent to Alberta. But other than that not much. Just mah jong.
Oh, and while I'm asking, how are the mah jong ladies?
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Quote:I'm so sorry to hear that Signy.
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Hi back!
Not been feeling well, so haven't been posting much.
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I hope you're feeling better soon.
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Over the weekend I was visiting some people, and we saw a dog standing in the middle of the street acting very, very oddly. It was a knee-high white dog with a brown patch on its side that looked like it might have had some terrier in it, it had that short semi-curly scruffy-looking coat. They told me that when they drove by it didn't move in the least though the car passed by very closely, albeit slowly and carefully.
When I went out to look - at about a 30' distance I might add - I clapped my hands and called 'hey pooch' loudly. And it turned its head ever so slightly (it moved its nose maybe 2") to look but otherwise stood stock still. It didn't even move the tip of its tail to wag, or alternately curl it under, or cock its ears, or lift one paw or... anything. We all thought 'rabies'. (There are 2 forms of rabies, 'furious' rabies that happens 80-90% of the time, and 'dumb' rabies, also called 'paralytic' rabies that happens the rest of the time.)
I did call Animal Control (thank goodness for the country government, but it seems woefully underfunded and understaffed), and was on hold for 45 MINUTES! before I could tell anyone about it. Yeah, it was on the weekend, and way outside of anything like normal business hours. But I'd sure hate to imagine if it had been a real emergency.
Anyway, while I was waiting on hold, I did look up rabies transmission and environmental contamination. It is NOT spread through urine, feces, or blood. And once the saliva dries out the virus dries out and becomes non-infectious. The rule of thumb is one hour out in the environment.
So when I got home I went online to look for dog behavior with rabies. And found this video. It's not for the faint of heart, so I posted the link to be visible but to not autoload.
https:/ /www. youtube. com/watch?v=keeigDzDf34
After watching it I still think it's a possibility the dog could have had rabies.
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Slow Sundays are good!
Other than that, how're doing Brenda?
Quote:Hey, absolutely nothing to do with anything, but how is your brother doing?
Originally posted by Brenda:
I'm not doing too bad. Just trying to get organized for Christmas which is mostly Christmas presents. I've got a couple and hoping to get one more in the next couple of days but it is a birthday present that has to be sent to Alberta. But other than that not much. Just mah jong.
Oh, and while I'm asking, how are the mah jong ladies?
My brother's doing okay. He still needs a cane sometimes when he goes out for a walk but that's not bad.
Mah jong ladies are all good as are the two gentlemen that play with us.
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Back from my walk and no luck on the nesting dolls or even jeans. Oh well. Got a bit of groceries though and that was good.
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Out for my walk on another nice sunny day. Have to see if the rain arrives by this evening or tomorrow morning.
Also got ambitious last afternoon and cleaned the stove top and changed sheets.
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No rain here, but NoCal is scheduled to get some. I'll be checking the US Drought Monitor to see if their situation improves. However, this is still a la Niña year, so the drought may continue through the normally rainy/(snowy) season.
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That could happen Kiki.
Right now still dry and bright out but the clouds could start rolling any time and then the rain.
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Out for my walk in the rain.
Also hate films that just can't include CC.
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Off to mah jong in the morning then a couple of things to do after that. So, I will see everyone in the afternoon.
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