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Thursday, October 14, 2021 4:01 AM

Just about finished setting the AIO up. I managed to mow the front lawn before the thunderstorms swept in, but didn't get to the back. Oh well.

Bringing up YouTube looks phenomenal on it. It can't do 4k (nothing I own can), but it's the first thing I can put the 1440p60 HD setting without any lag, and with only a 24" screen it looks amazing.

That being said, I'm slightly worried about how long it took to install everything compared to the desktop, but maybe I'm just thinking the desktop was quicker since I was doing two at the same time and had more to keep me busy. I can't imagine that this thing is really slower in any regards than the desktop is. It's the only machine I have with DDR4 memory, and the processor is something like 3.7ghz. The desktop is barely over 3ghz with DDR3 memory, and the desktop I'm giving my aunt only has DDR2 memory.

The only real negative is that I can't do much more to it for speed increases. I'm stuck with the integrated graphics chip. I can upgrade from two 4GB sticks to two 8GB sticks for double the memory if I ever want to shell out for that. I could also get a larger sized SSD than the 250GB one down the road too, but I don't think one SSD is faster than another one (I could be wrong about that?).


The desktop has a slower processor and only uses DDR3 memory, but it's only got 8GB in there now and is upgradable to 32GB. I also have the option to pick up a low-to-mid-level graphics card that will work with only a 240 watt power supply to unload any graphics processing off of the CPU, which would probably be more of a speed increase than anything that I could do to the AIO in the future.



Overall, I'm EXTREMELY happy with these purchases.

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Thursday, October 14, 2021 5:11 AM

Time to let this thing do its updates, so later peeps.

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Thursday, October 14, 2021 5:59 AM

My mom had card club. Some ladies would rotate the hosting duties each week. We would know that the night would be spent outside of the room they used, because that day was "cleaning day" at our house.

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Thursday, October 14, 2021 6:03 AM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Holy crap... that All In One is HUGE. I guess I underestimated how much larger a 24" monitor would be compared to a 21" monitor on my coffee table.

I don't think I understand. Your desk surface is not deep enough to set the monitor back further? Or are you saying the keyboard is integral to the monitor - neither is detachable?

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Thursday, October 14, 2021 6:22 AM

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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Holy crap... that All In One is HUGE. I guess I underestimated how much larger a 24" monitor would be compared to a 21" monitor on my coffee table.

I don't think I understand. Your desk surface is not deep enough to set the monitor back further? Or are you saying the keyboard is integral to the monitor - neither is detachable?



An AIO is an All In One. The monitor is the computer.

It is replacing the one I have had on my coffee table for the last 5 or so years, in my living room, where I do about 90% of my indoor living. Keyboard/mouse attached to it via USB.

It actually takes up less real estate on the surface of the coffee table because it's on a base rather than three legs like the HP AIOs, but it's so much higher and wider than the old one, and I won't be able to move the coffee table around to vacuum or just out of my way if I wanted to watch the TV without being really careful since it doesn't have the low center of gravity that the old one had.

I think I'm just going to have to get a wireless mouse/keyboard combo and use the new desktop computer with my TV as a monitor for in the living room and find another use for the new AIO.

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Thursday, October 14, 2021 9:48 AM

I am off to mah jong in the morning, so I will see everyone in the afternoon.

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Thursday, October 14, 2021 7:27 PM

All in one, example



all of the "workings" of a PC -Video card, memory, CPU, hard drive, power supply etc - are packed into the case right behind the display. Think of it as a thin laptop, on a stand. Just add keyboard and mouse

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Thursday, October 14, 2021 7:40 PM

Yeah... Except the base on the Dell isn't even as substantial as the one in that pic.

It's heavy duty and wouldn't break, but it's only about 6" by 5", with a high center of gravity.

The old HP AIO had two tiny little legs on the bottom of the screen, with a large adjustable back plate that was around 1/3rd of the width of the screen and served as the final leg in a tripod.

Zero chance the HP would ever fall over when moving the coffee table. Almost 100% chance the DELL will fall if great care isn't taken when moving the table.



I put the new DELL through the paces before going to bed last night and I can say for sure that it's the best performer of the bunch. I'm actually kind of blown away by how well it works. The only upgrade I did to it was putting that SSD I bought years ago in there. The 500GB HD that came with it is now going to go in the desktop as a data drive, since there's room for a 2nd drive in there.

Unless we make the jump to quantum computing any time soon, these things should serve me well for years.


Not bad, when Ryzen CPU's are going for anywhere from $225 to over $900 and people are paying over $1,000 for graphics cards.



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Thursday, October 14, 2021 7:48 PM

Here.... Got some pictures.

The old HP with a low center of gravity is impossible to knock over.



The new DELL is probably going to be dangerous to keep on the coffee table.



(Not to mention that with a monitor that's an additional 3", and all that extra height under the bottom of the screen, it's kind of ridiculous on a coffee table)




I'm actually not saying that the DELL design is bad. I think for the way that most people would use it, it's a superior design. Most people aren't going to have a concern about needing a low center of gravity.

The problem the HP has is that it takes up so much room. The DELL is very low profile on your desk, even with a larger monitor.


ETA:

On further inspection, this paragraph is bullshit:

The other problem the HP design has is that you must ALWAYS have the monitor facing up. Not only can you have the DELL facing totally straight, but you can even have it facing down if you wanted to. You've got more options with the DELL if glare is a problem in your house (which it is in mine now that I have privacy film everywhere instead of blinds).

No. You can't turn it down. You can't even make it straight. You can make it a bit more straight than you can with the HP though. If you try to make the HP straight beyond a certain point, it won't stand up anymore since that rear leg is too short to accommodate that.



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Friday, October 15, 2021 3:18 AM

Back from mah jong and lunch. Still dry out but we shall see.

Had a pretty good morning at mah jong. I got second prize. Had a couple of decent hands that at the end netted me over 10,000 points.

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