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Monday, October 11, 2021 2:13 AM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Yeah. Heating is one of the very few reasons I sometimes miss the apartment lifestyle.

My house is pretty much wide open, being a tri-level. I'm only able to close off two of the bedrooms from the rest of the house, but by doing that I also close off 1/3 of the heat vents in the house as well.

I don't think I understand your concern.

I think your bathroom must be between the 2 bedrooms, right? Neither of your bedrooms has water, pipes in the walls, right?

I think your heater is currently in the attic.
Most heating systems have one vent in a common area, which does not have a shutter on the vent. Often the kitchen, but I don't recall where yours is. The rest of the vents would have a shutter, and/or valve in the ducting.
Basements generally gravitate to about 55 degrees, so don't need a huge amount of heating. Unless you are spending a bunch of time there.
If you close your bedrooms, and the heating vents in them, then you can heat just the living room and kitchen mostly, with a little bit of basement.

Heat rises, so residual diffusion would let some heat into the bedrooms anyhow. Most humans sleep best with a cooler environment - just tuck in with covers, comforter, blanket.
Heating just LR and K, plus bathroom seems reasonable. If not enough heat in one area, a fan to help pull out the heat from a vent can help.

Why do you need to heat more than the LR, K, bathroom?

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Monday, October 11, 2021 2:43 AM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
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JSF: Having first pregnancy just for the purpose of interrupting it via abortion is what actually INCREASES the risk.
What is so magical about a "first" pregnancy ending in abortion, as opposed to a second, or third? Isn't it just the total number of years being pregnant and breastfeeding the important factor? I see no biological mechanism for that "first pregnancy" trope. And since 30% of pregnancies end in spontaneous abortions, have "they" also studied the effect of THAT? That's beyond a woman's control and is certainly a very common experience.

IIRC, most cancers are generally considered to be some natural process, but run amok, or in the wrong place/tissue, or unreigned reaction or hormonal situations.
First pregnancy is the first full cycle of powerful hormone storms, in specific stages, over a specific time frame. When this cycle is interrupted in a way evolution did not anticipate, the hormone sequence, which is supposed to stop or counter whatever the prior hormone release did, is disrupted. Uncontrolled hormone release sequence results.
I do not recall that the full term but stillborn was specifically identified as increasing risk, but subsequent studies would indicate that the lack of breastfeeding would increase risk.

The studies I recall had indicated that miscarriage was equally increasing risk as induced abortions, but now I read that other studies have indicated miscarriages are not as high risk - perhaps evolution has found a way to work around that.
Remember, this was all supposed to be about the first pregancy, as I recall - much of what I am reading now does not differentiate between first and any other following pregnancy. I have not heard specifically of any study which stated that non-first pregnancies had any effect on risk, whether they were completed births, or stillbirths, or miscarriages, or induced abortions.


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Link a credible study, or be done.

You have spent the past 30 years erasing, scrubbing, obfuscating that facts, remember? Hard to find the stuff you scrubbed.

But let's try one of your beloved .gov sites:

https://www.cancer.gov/types/breast/abortion-miscarriage-risk

Excerpts:
The relationship between induced and spontaneous abortion and breast cancer risk has been the subject of extensive research beginning in the late 1950s. Until the mid-1990s, the evidence was inconsistent. Findings from some (politically correct) studies suggested there was no increase in risk of breast cancer among women who had had an abortion, while findings from other studies suggested there was an increased risk. Most of these studies, however, were flawed in a number of ways that can lead to unreliable results.

Early age at first term birth is related to lifetime decrease in breast cancer risk.

The additional long-term protective effect of young age at subsequent term pregnancies is not as strong as for the first term pregnancy.

One of the particiapants was not adequately PC, and was more interested in solving brest cancer than in perpetuating breast cancer like the rest of the participants and other deniers:
The participant remains "convinced that the weight of available evidence suggests a real, independent, positive association between induced abortion and breast cancer risk." In a general statement, the participant noted that the workshop summary report contained no comment of dissent.





Persistence in other searches:
https://abortionrisks.org/index.php?title=Cancer_Risk_Associated_With_
Abortion


"Between 45-50% of U.S. women undergo induced abortion of their first pregnancy each year. It is well established that an early full-term childbirth has a protective effect against breast cancer in women."

"The researchers also stated that " data suggested an increased risk associated with abortion contrary to the reduction in risk associated with full-term births.""

"Data gathered from a

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Monday, October 11, 2021 3:47 AM

It is actually sunny and dry out. Have to see what happens tomorrow.

Just a little more work done on my book and some music listen to.

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Monday, October 11, 2021 7:02 AM


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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
IIRC, most cancers are generally considered to be some natural process, but run amok, or in the wrong place/tissue, or unreigned reaction or hormonal situations.

Cancerous tissues aren't even a little bit like normal. They ALL stem from genetic abnormalities, which means the cells are abnormal at the most basic level. Nothing about cancer is 'some natural process'. Since you have such a vital misunderstanding, I couldn't bother myself to read any further.

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Monday, October 11, 2021 8:07 AM

JSF, I'm going to create another thread for your hostility.

You turn every pleasant chat into a fight.

Who raised you, boy?


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Monday, October 11, 2021 8:22 AM

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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Yeah. Heating is one of the very few reasons I sometimes miss the apartment lifestyle.

My house is pretty much wide open, being a tri-level. I'm only able to close off two of the bedrooms from the rest of the house, but by doing that I also close off 1/3 of the heat vents in the house as well.

I don't think I understand your concern.

I think your bathroom must be between the 2 bedrooms, right? Neither of your bedrooms has water, pipes in the walls, right?

I think your heater is currently in the attic.
Most heating systems have one vent in a common area, which does not have a shutter on the vent. Often the kitchen, but I don't recall where yours is. The rest of the vents would have a shutter, and/or valve in the ducting.
Basements generally gravitate to about 55 degrees, so don't need a huge amount of heating. Unless you are spending a bunch of time there.
If you close your bedrooms, and the heating vents in them, then you can heat just the living room and kitchen mostly, with a little bit of basement.

Heat rises, so residual diffusion would let some heat into the bedrooms anyhow. Most humans sleep best with a cooler environment - just tuck in with covers, comforter, blanket.
Heating just LR and K, plus bathroom seems reasonable. If not enough heat in one area, a fan to help pull out the heat from a vent can help.

Why do you need to heat more than the LR, K, bathroom?





I sleep in the livingroom. Bad habit I got into with all that apartment living. I like sleeping on a couch.



The basement gets down to the mid 40's regularly. It's only in the ground as deep as the crawl space, so there's still a lot of exposed wall. Crawl space gets even colder. I have to have the thermostat up to the 60's at least if it ever gets to the negative teens since the pipes at the front of the house froze on me one year (thankfully they didn't break).

Furnace is from the early 60's and is a real piece of shit. It's also an upflow furnace that has a duct going right under the cold roof which then splits to 6 insulated "snakes" that pump the air out from the ceilings on the 1st and 2nd floor. 1 in each bedroom, 1 in the 2nd floor bathroom, 2 in the livingroom and 1 in the kitchen.

I close off the bedrooms because except for the week or two my brother comes here around Christmas, I don't use them at all.




Long story short, my conern is money.

I've now lived through a very hot summer and even when I had my A/C on 24/7 for weeks straight I was completely comfortable in any spot in the house and my max bill (electric and gas combined) was $165... Only about $65 more than my bills in the hottest months back when I was only using fans.

Winter bills are a different story, and even though I keep it fairly cold in the house, my largest winter bill so far was around $210.

That was with good natural gas prices. If we see a huge increase this year like they're predicting, it's going to be an expensive winter heating season.

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Monday, October 11, 2021 8:23 AM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
JSF, I'm going to create another thread for your hostility.

You turn every pleasant chat into a fight.

Who raised you, boy?



I did say a few days ago this conversation should be moved from the Garden, dinn't I?



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Monday, October 11, 2021 10:40 AM

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SIGNYM:
JSF, I'm going to create another thread for your hostility.
You turn every pleasant chat into a fight.
Who raised you, boy?


SIX: I did say a few days ago this conversation should be moved from the Garden, dinn't I?


You were right, and I should have followed your example.

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If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

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Monday, October 11, 2021 10:47 AM


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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Who raised you, boy?

Somebody extremely religious in the old-fashioned, Old Testament, hellfire-and-brimstone, eternal-damnation way. Things have to pencil-out moralistically for him in very absolutist black-white terms.

So ...
Being gay gets punished by AIDS, and only the gay-lifestyle can bring AIDS on.
Getting an abortion the first time is a life-defining evil decision punished by breast cancer, and only women who had an abortion get breast cancer.

I'm sure I could find other examples.

ETA: "drug use" - where alcohol and tobacco aren't drugs, but pot is like heroin, and drug users are degenerates.

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Monday, October 11, 2021 11:30 PM

Out for a walk soon on a bright sunny Turkey day. So have a good Monday everyone.

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