new deadly human-to-human-transmissible coronavirus emerges out of China

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6IXSTRINGJACK

Friday, April 24, 2020 7:41 PM

https://reason.com/2020/04/22/shouldnt-covid-19s-lethality-inform-the-
response-to-it/

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Confirmed cases are limited to people who have tested positive for the virus, and testing so far has been skewed toward people with severe symptoms. Since people infected by the virus typically experience mild to no symptoms, it is not surprising that the official tally understates the number of infections, although the apparent size of the gap is striking.

Since the number of infections in Los Angeles County is much higher than the official numbers indicate, Ferrer told reporters, the risk of transmission is higher than expected, which reinforces the case for aggressive control measures, including broad business closure and stay-at-home orders. At the same time, she said, the fact that 95 percent or so of the county's adult population remains uninfected shows those measures are working.

In other words, no matter what the actual prevalence of the virus is, and no matter how you look at it, that information justifies maintaining the statewide lockdown. One wonders what conceivable results from the antibody study might have caused Ferrer to reconsider the wisdom of that policy.

The question is especially pressing in light of the fatality rate implied by the study. In contrast with the current crude case fatality rate of about 4.5 percent, Ferrer said, the study suggests that 0.1 percent to 0.2 percent of people infected by the virus will die, which would make COVID-19 only somewhat more deadly than the seasonal flu.

That finding is consistent with the results of an earlier antibody study in Santa Clara County. "The mortality rate now has dropped a lot," Ferrer conceded.

Santa Clara Study:

https://reason.com/2020/04/17/covid-19-lethality-not-much-different-th
an-flu-says-new-study/

Do Right, Be Right. :)

CAPTAINCRUNCH

Friday, April 24, 2020 8:02 PM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
How do you know half of my story but don't know all of it?

wtf? Who the fuk cares about your "story???"

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After corporate restructuring... yawn

But I don't need much money and some things are more important than cash when you're not a wage slave.

Huh - like maybe being alive? Like those old people you want to see die off?

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Are you suggesting that people who aren't working now because they hate their jobs are better off for it?

I'd say ask them but I know you wouldn't get a straight answer. Some yes, some not so much.
I do know that if they want their old jobs and life back, those jobs will only last or be sustainable if the virus is treatable or if people have the confidence to go to their workplace and to shop, that they won't get sick just getting haircut.

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Because I guaranty you that when the "free" government money stops and the economy opens back up and millions who used to have jobs don't have one to go back to that will not be the case.

And how would "opening up" help if it just means more people get sick and die and huge part of the population doesn't want to get within 6 feet of anyone?

Oh, right, Jack says they won't.

CAPTAINCRUNCH

Friday, April 24, 2020 8:08 PM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:That's because people stayed home, doofus. Can't contract it if you stay away from those that have it, gdamn.
No it's not. (In regards to the underlined sentence).

So it's just been a coincidence that once the stay the fuk home was put in place new cases dropped?

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You can look at my math.

pass

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I know a bleeding heart pussy like you can't comprehend that idea and it makes you cry just thinking about it.

This whole thing has you flipping out, doesn't it? Seriously, since this thing happened you've been a flaming asshole to just about everyone here. Nice one.

CAPTAINCRUNCH

Friday, April 24, 2020 8:11 PM

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Almost all of the people who were going to die from this before the shutdowns are likely to die of something else soon or are going to eventually die of this anyhow.

Everyone dies eventually, so let's just stop Health Care in general - we'd save tons of money. Less traffic, no waiting in long lines, front row seating, nothing but upside. And by all means, let's let politicians decide on who to treat and when. TSSYP

I didn't say anything about health care, dummy.

You sure didn't - just let 'em die.

6IXSTRINGJACK

Friday, April 24, 2020 10:28 PM

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Originally posted by captaincrunch:
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
How do you know half of my story but don't know all of it?

wtf? Who the fuk cares about your "story???"

You asked me, dumbfuck. Don't ask questions if you don't want to know the answer to them.

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
After corporate restructuring... yawn

But I don't need much money and some things are more important than cash when you're not a wage slave.

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Huh - like maybe being alive? Like those old people you want to see die off?

At this point, I just about have nothing to say to you other than "shut up faggot".

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Are you suggesting that people who aren't working now because they hate their jobs are better off for it?

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I'd say ask them but I know you wouldn't get a straight answer. Some yes, some not so much.
I do know that if they want their old jobs and life back, those jobs will only last or be sustainable if the virus is treatable or if people have the confidence to go to their workplace and to shop, that they won't get sick just getting haircut.

Nobody but the extremely old and already sick are going to die getting a haircut, pussy.

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Because I guaranty you that when the "free" government money stops and the economy opens back up and millions who used to have jobs don't have one to go back to that will not be the case.

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And how would "opening up" help if it just means more people get sick and die and huge part of the population doesn't want to get within 6 feet of anyone?

Because that's only in your head, retard.

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Oh, right, Jack says they won't.

I haven't been wrong here yet.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

1KIKI

Friday, April 24, 2020 11:55 PM

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JACK:
You're still talking almost nothing in Sweden.

Because Sweden isn't the US. More than half of Sweden's residences house just one person. A quarter of Sweden's workers work from home, a third of them do in Stockholm, and 90% do for the largest companies. It has no large metropolises. Its very largest city, Stockholm, has about 1M people, the same size as San Jose, California. 90% of Swedes say they're socially isolating due to SARS-COV-2.

With all that going for it, Sweden, with a population of 1M has over 2,100 deaths, and heading sharply up. Norway, with a similar setting to Sweden and a population of 0.5M has 200 deaths, or less than 1/5 of Sweden's on a per capita basis and slowly increasing. And Los Angeles County, with a vastly different culture and 10M inhabitants, has 800 deaths or quite a bit less than half of Sweden, on a per capita basis, on a similar slope with Norway.

Social isolation works.

Now, in case you think I'm in favor of social isolation, I'd like to remind you that I'm all for states opening up without any controls at all ... as long as it passes by majority referendum, and as long as they don't later go to the feds for COVID $help$ because they messed up.

What I would LIKE to see is mandatory mask-wearing in public. It's the fastest, cheapest, simplest, least intrusive measure to take.

1KIKI

Saturday, April 25, 2020 12:25 AM

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JACK:
Models showing that 50 to 80 times as many people are infected than we know about (and I'm not providing a link for that since YOU AND KIKI posted those already, and you know exactly what I'm talking about) show a much higher number of those infected.

Your numbers are off.

I've already disproved the 4% figure for anywhere but Santa Clara and Los Angeles counties (where the 4% numbers were generated) because when applied to California as a whole, and using that factor to apply to NYC, they give an infection rate of 150%. Even taking 2 random counties in California and applying that figure across the state gives a bogus factor. Applying the LACounty 4% infection rate to LACounty alone, them back-calculating to NYC gives an infection rate of 50%, which is better than 150%, but over twice the current measurement of 20%.

OBVIOUSLY you can't take a percent from one population and apply it to another, because you know those populations differ in terms of exposure. Nome Alaska is not Long Beach, California.

Your assumptions are invalid.

1KIKI

Saturday, April 25, 2020 12:57 AM

Anyway, I was hoping to look at Los Angeles County to see what affects different measures might have on infections rate. But the data looks erratic - provably so when one laboratory submitted 1,100 backlogged positive results in a single transaction. I might have to wait for data to smooth out over longer time periods, or the information might not be recoverable at all.

CAPTAINCRUNCH

Saturday, April 25, 2020 1:20 AM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I haven't been wrong here yet.

Really? Remember how just last week you didn't know what RT/retweets were, and thought they were some kind of conspiracy?

Remember 6StringJack: "When we get Mitt into the President's Chair (which is an inevatibility now), I will vote for Dems in the congress in 2014."

Remember 6ixstringjack ...predicts seeing a '15% sales taxes and 85% taxes on booze and smokes', and generally we should 'expect to pay more for everything'.

Remember: 6ixstringjack No way Obama gets another term...

http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=51008&p=2

The real question is: are you right about anything?

CAPTAINCRUNCH

Saturday, April 25, 2020 1:35 AM

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Originally posted by 1KIKI:
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JACK:
You're still talking almost nothing in Sweden.
Because Sweden isn't the US. More than half of Sweden's residences house just one person. A quarter of Sweden's workers work from home, a third of them do in Stockholm, and 90% do for the largest companies. It has no large metropolises. Its very largest city, Stockholm, has about 1M people, the same size as San Jose, California. 90% of Swedes say they're socially isolating due to SARS-COV-2.

With all that going for it, Sweden, with a population of 1M has over 2,100 deaths, and heading sharply up. Norway, with a similar setting to Sweden and a population of 0.5M has 200 deaths, or less than 1/5 of Sweden's on a per capita basis and slowly increasing. And Los Angeles County, with a vastly different culture and 10M inhabitants, has 800 deaths or quite a bit less than half of Sweden, on a per capita basis, on a similar slope with Norway.

Social isolation works.

Now, in case you think I'm in favor of social isolation, I'd like to remind you that I'm all for states opening up without any controls at all ... as long as it passes by majority referendum, and as long as they don't later go to the feds for COVID $help$ because they messed up.

What I would LIKE to see is mandatory mask-wearing in public. It's the fastest, cheapest, simplest, least intrusive measure to take.

I'm all for mask wearing in public, but with soft enforcement - more encouragement than enforcement. Warnings mostly. Some people, including Dumpfuss, are too vain or too immature to wear them in front of others, so just a push could help them get over themselves.

I wouldn't trust any state that screws up with 'too soon and too much' and pays a price, to not try and guilt the Fed Gov for aid after the fact.

Thanks for pointing out how different Sweden is from the US! Some people only see numbers without thinking what's under it all.

BTW 41 grocery store workers have died from c-19.

Hey Jack - at what age can we write someone off as, "they were going to die anyway?" Anyone 70+? 80+? 85? Who gets to make that call?

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