I suspect vaccinations because...
POSTED BY: chrisisall
UPDATED: Saturday, January 13, 2024 18:35
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There's got to be something else we can use in vaccines by now other than mercury anything, ethate methate trioxinhydro ya ya ya dadada.
I see no reason to argue here.
"A completely coherant River means writers don't deliver" KatTaya
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There IS something better than mercury. It's called SINGLE USE DOSES.
My argument with CTS isn't whether mercury is good or bad for people. But at various times (you may not have been there) CTS has argued that vaccines don't do any good at all (Let's all go back to the days of polio and smallpox, shall we?), and that vaccines cause autism (too bad autism starts in utero. Well, there goes THAT argument! 
) Just a number of things that CTS has had to ignore in order to maintain some positions.
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Quote:My position has always been that vaccine effectiveness has been greatly exaggerated. I have never said they don't do any good at all.
Originally posted by SignyM:
...CTS has argued that vaccines don't do any good at all (Let's all go back to the days of polio and smallpox, shall we?), ...
Quote:Never said it.
and that vaccines cause autism
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I have my doubts, and CTS to thank for them. Vaccines intentionally wreak havoc on a meticulously designed natural defense system. Maybe in this sort of assistance to nature, less is more. Lest we go all "white bloodcells' burden"
That's what a ship is, you know - it's not just a keel and a hull and a deck and sails, that's what a ship needs.
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CTS... I'm not going to meticulously dig through all of your past posts. You'd deny anything I posted anyway, saying it was "out of context" and that you were "misunderstood" So.... yeah, yeah... whatever.
DT... do you really think that our poor white blood cells are overworked, in our current sanitized environment? In fact, there is a theory going around that we may be seeing more autoimmune diseases because our immune system doesn't have enough to do! Our kids are no longer crawling around the beach, putting dead birds and dogshit and seaweed in their mouths.
BTW- there is a new therapy called fecal matter transplant... I kid you not. It cures diseases formerly thought of as autoimmune, like Crohn's disease.
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CHRIS... while cleaning out my email this past weekend I found this:
GABA CURES TYPE I DIABETES
Well, like all good headlines this one is overblown, but here are the specifics
GABA exerts protective and regenerative effects on islet beta cells and reverses diabetes
Authors Nepton Soltania, Hongmin Qiua, Mila Aleksicb, Yelena Glinkac, Fang Zhaoa, Rui Liua, Yiming Lid, Nina Zhanga, Rabindranath Chakrabartid, Tiffany Nga, Tianru Jinb, Haibo Zhangb,Wei-Yang Luf, Zhong-Ping Fengb, Gerald J. Prud'hommec, Qinghua Wanga
Quote:
Type 1 diabetes (T1D) is an autoimmune disease characterized by insulitis and islet β-cell loss. Thus, an effective therapy may require β-cell restoration and immune suppression. Currently, there is no treatment that can achieve both goals efficiently. We report here that GABA exerts antidiabetic effects by acting on both the islet β-cells and immune system. Unlike in adult brain or islet α-cells in which GABA exerts hyperpolarizing effects, in islet β-cells, GABA produces membrane depolarization and Ca2+ influx, leading to the activation of PI3-K/Akt–dependent growth and survival pathways. This provides a potential mechanism underlying our in vivo findings that GABA therapy preserves β-cell mass and prevents the development of T1D. Remarkably, in severely diabetic mice, GABA restores β-cell mass and reverses the disease. Furthermore, GABA suppresses insulitis and systemic inflammatory cytokine production. The β-cell regenerative and immunoinhibitory effects of GABA provide insights into the role of GABA in regulating islet cell function and glucose homeostasis, which may find clinical application.
www.pnas.org/content/108/28/11692
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Quote:Cause you won't be able to find any.
Originally posted by SignyM:
CTS... I'm not going to meticulously dig through all of your past posts.
If you understood that I said those things, then you MISunderstood. I am correcting you now. It is not the first time you have misunderstood my positions. I don't believe it. Never said it.
If you want to accuse me of lying, you'd better prove it.
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"Christmas is a time when kids tell Santa what they want and adults pay for it. Deficits are when adults tell the government what they want - and their kids pay for it." - Richard Lamm
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I really have to quit, but I can't resist snarking this:
Sig,
I guess I'm not going to vouch for the genetic viability of your kids then.
That's what a ship is, you know - it's not just a keel and a hull and a deck and sails, that's what a ship needs.
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Quote:Wow, I talk about our poor white blood cells and you take it to a whole 'nother extremely personal level, don'tcha? Is that what you do when you don't have a good counterpoint? Did words fail you? So I'll see you and raise you:
I guess I'm not going to vouch for the genetic viability of your kids then.
[snark] Too bad you don't have any. Oh, wait.. maybe that's a GOOD thing! [/snark]
For the record, when I said Our kids are no longer crawling around the beach, putting dead birds and dogshit and seaweed in their mouths. I didn't mean MINE, I meant OURS.... humanity's. Because what the frak did you think toddlers did back when, before we wiped and boiled everything that went into their mouths?
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Meanwhile, so this doesn't get lost:
CHRIS... while cleaning out my email this past weekend I found this:
GABA CURES TYPE I DIABETES
Well, like all good headlines this one is overblown, but here are the specifics
GABA exerts protective and regenerative effects on islet beta cells and reverses diabetes
Authors Nepton Soltania, Hongmin Qiua, Mila Aleksicb, Yelena Glinkac, Fang Zhaoa, Rui Liua, Yiming Lid, Nina Zhanga, Rabindranath Chakrabartid, Tiffany Nga, Tianru Jinb, Haibo Zhangb,Wei-Yang Luf, Zhong-Ping Fengb, Gerald J. Prud'hommec, Qinghua Wanga
Quote:
Type 1 diabetes (T1D) is an autoimmune disease characterized by insulitis and islet β-cell loss. Thus, an effective therapy may require β-cell restoration and immune suppression. Currently, there is no treatment that can achieve both goals efficiently. We report here that GABA exerts antidiabetic effects by acting on both the islet β-cells and immune system. Unlike in adult brain or islet α-cells in which GABA exerts hyperpolarizing effects, in islet β-cells, GABA produces membrane depolarization and Ca2+ influx, leading to the activation of PI3-K/Akt–dependent growth and survival pathways. This provides a potential mechanism underlying our in vivo findings that GABA therapy preserves β-cell mass and prevents the development of T1D. Remarkably, in severely diabetic mice, GABA restores β-cell mass and reverses the disease. Furthermore, GABA suppresses insulitis and systemic inflammatory cytokine production. The β-cell regenerative and immunoinhibitory effects of GABA provide insights into the role of GABA in regulating islet cell function and glucose homeostasis, which may find clinical application.
www.pnas.org/content/108/28/11692
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