Is Fox News the US version of Pravda?
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UPDATED: Friday, October 24, 2025 17:07
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Originally posted by citizen:
Come on, Pravda ain't that bad.
The idea that the American televised news is dominated by 'liberals' is laughable. You couldn't get a set of much more right-wing news outlets if you asked General Pinochett to take over as information minister.
The bloke from across the pond speaks,and knows not what he says.
People love a happy ending. So every episode, I will explain once again that I don't like people. And then Mal will shoot someone. Someone we like. And their puppy. - Joss
" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "
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Quote:A general inabillity to string a thought process together without resorting to idiotic Ad Hominems that show the true depths of your ignorance, how I've missed you, AU, while talking to intelligent people. Truely, you have that certain nothing.
Originally posted by AURaptor:
The bloke from across the pond speaks,and knows not what he says.
More insane ramblings by the people who brought you beeeer milkshakes!
No one can see their reflection in running water. It is only in still water that we can see.
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Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
The big 3 networks, especially NBC have lost 100's of thousands of viewers to cable, mostly Fox. Fox ratings are far dramatically higher than CNN & MSNBC combined...why? People like what they hear.
Thats retarded both philosophically and mathematically. Fox is the only state run tv network in the USA. The rest run the spectrum of moderatly-liberal-sensational-idiotic to stoopid-tabloid-idiotic.
I'm not being clear. So if there are 4 liberal conspiracy networks CNN, CNBC, MSNBC, HNN.
And 1 State Run Television network FOX.
Dems= 50% of population and Repugs= 50% of population.
So! Fox's ratings should be 4 times as high as the other network's ratings at all times. And they are a long way from that. So Fox really has low ratings compared to the market share they should have
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Originally posted by citizen:Quote:A general inabillity to string a thought process together without resorting to idiotic Ad Hominems that show the true depths of your ignorance, how I've missed you, AU, while talking to intelligent people. Truely, you have that certain nothing.
Originally posted by AURaptor:
The bloke from across the pond speaks,and knows not what he says.
Seriously, the Left wing controls fully 3/4ths if not more of all the media in this country, and you have the nerve to claim otherwise. It's like trying to converse w/ a holocaust denier, so why should I waste time stating which is so clearly known and understood over here to a limey dork who simply hears what he wants to hear ?
Oh, I know....I don't have to.
Nevermind.
People love a happy ending. So every episode, I will explain once again that I don't like people. And then Mal will shoot someone. Someone we like. And their puppy. - Joss
" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "
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Cit, what bwe are looking at here is a difference in perception. In the UK we never doubt that a newspaper or a TV channel reflects the business interests and political viewpoint of it's corporate owners. Further, since they are the ones that hire the journalists, and journalists like to eat, we also know that no journo is likely to upset his masters by writing a piece against the policy of the paper -- and even if they did no editor would ever print it. Consequently we don't view the political leanings of the journalists as having quite as much impact on the political stance of an outlet as the leanings of the editor and owner. We therefore disregard that as a factor.
When I came here I was told of the "liberal media conspiracy (tm)" and pointed at studies that show that something like 60% of journalists in the US are somewhat left of center, with only 10% or so attesting to be definately right of center (or something.) Of course *I* said that hardly matters, that the owners install editors and editors decide what appears on screen. I really doubt that Fox will ever do an in depth investigative report on Murdock's finances, that CNN will investigate Time-Warner or that NBC will go after GE irrespective of the public's "right to know" or the political leanings of their reporters.
However, the kinds of folks that will tell you of that "journalistic bias" study will completely discount any suggestion that an outlets owners have any effect on editorial policy. Apparently a journo earning maybe $100,000 a year can slip his political ideology into the American mainstream but someone like Rupert Murdock or Ted Turner just happen to have invested in media and... well their politics NEVER influence anything.
At least in England you know the Gruniad prints left wing rubbish, the Torygraph right wing rubbish and the Mail supplies sensational stories to PirateNews.
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Apparently a journo earning maybe $100,000 a year can slip his political ideology into the American mainstream but someone like Rupert Murdock or Ted Turner just happen to have invested in media and... well their politics NEVER influence anything.
Ted started CNN,and he's an admitted socialist, after all.
People love a happy ending. So every episode, I will explain once again that I don't like people. And then Mal will shoot someone. Someone we like. And their puppy. - Joss
" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "
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There's at least a couple of things going on, Fletch2. The myth of the "liberal media conspiracy" is one of the bedrocks of the modern day American movement conservative (and I'm purposefully using the phrase "movement conservative" rather than "conservative"). Just look at the responses in this thread and you'll see that the myth is alive and well. John Dean, in his book Conservatives without Conscience, traces this back to Spiro Agnew and the start of the current generation of culture wars. Agnew, with the backing of Nixon, aggressively targeted the media in an effort to game the refs of the fourth estate. This tactic has proven to be quite effective over the years until we are reduced to the current state where journalists bend over backwards to present two sides of any debate no matter what the relative merits of each side.
The idea of a "liberal media conspiracy" also fits in quite well with the cult of persecution that exists among the movement conservative set. They absolutely need to believe that they are being persecuted because it provides them justification for the scorched earth politics that the Republican Party had engaged in up until the 2006 midterm elections.
Another thing that is going on is this childlike faith in the "free market" and trust in corporations and the inability to see exactly what you and Righteous9 talked about.
What's crystal clear to an outside observer is unfathomable for someone who is invested in the myth of the "liberal media conspiracy."
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Funny how you over look the fact that up to 90% of the journalist are Left wingers, or admit to voting Democrat. But we're to believe w/ childlike faith that none of that in any way affects their 'professional' writing and reporting of the news?
Whan AlGore talks about " the debate is over", he more accurately would describing the Left's dominance in American news reporting, instead of the phoney climate change nonsense.
People love a happy ending. So every episode, I will explain once again that I don't like people. And then Mal will shoot someone. Someone we like. And their puppy. - Joss
" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "
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Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
It would be honest to say that Fox New...the actual news broadcasts, definitely have a traditional, conservative aura about them, but not as far to the right as the mainstream media has gone over the far edge left. Also the Fox News "analysis shows" present the most balanced discussions on TV. There is rarely any ganging up by one side, both sides are usually given equal time to speak their minds...as opposed to MSNBC or even NBC where usually ALL the guests are rabid liberals...spewing their venom as if it was a given fact...which it is to them and their tiny, tiny audience.
Right on every point. This libertarian appreciates FNC.
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Originally posted by CrevanReaver:Quote:
Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
It would be honest to say that Fox New...the actual news broadcasts, definitely have a traditional, conservative aura about them, but not as far to the right as the mainstream media has gone over the far edge left. Also the Fox News "analysis shows" present the most balanced discussions on TV. There is rarely any ganging up by one side, both sides are usually given equal time to speak their minds...as opposed to MSNBC or even NBC where usually ALL the guests are rabid liberals...spewing their venom as if it was a given fact...which it is to them and their tiny, tiny audience.
Right on every point. This libertarian appreciates FNC.
Thanks CrevanReaver for your shiny acknowledgement of my post.
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