Is Fox News the US version of Pravda?
POSTED BY: SoupCatcher
UPDATED: Friday, October 24, 2025 17:07
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One of the things that irritates me is that the modern day GOP seems intent on becoming everything we were warned the Soviets were during the cold war. It's like a race to the bottom.
One example.
Anyone who actually pays attention knows that Fox News just makes shit up. And makes shit up in a way that benefits the Republican Party. If you want to get a handle on what message the media consultants of the GOP have focus-group-tested and decided to run with, there is no better way to do that than to watch Fox News (Well, you could also listen to Limbaugh or the Limbaugh-clones. Same smell).
I saw a post on dKos earlier today that reminded me of this point ( http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2007/7/24/184250/101 ). For those keeping score at home: Mark Foley is a Republican, Arlen Specter is a Republican and Lincoln Chafee is a Republican. But you'd think they were Democrats if you watched Fox News. You know what they say, "Once is happenstance. Twice is coincidence. Three times is enemy action."
But it's the other example from that post, the one about Scooter Libby, that really made me think of Pravda. Scooter Libby was convicted of four of five counts by the jury. Fox News took the one count he was found not guilty of (one of the two counts of lying to FBI investigators) and ran with that as their lead story. The headline was, "Scooter Libby found not guilty of lying to FBI investigators." Nothing about the four guilty counts. If all you listened to was Fox News, you'd think Libby was found not guilty of everything. That's putting quite a lot of lipstick on that pig.
What it reminded me of was a joke my dad's uncle loved to tell back in the late seventies/early eighties. Seems the USSR and USA decided they would have a car race to decide which country was the greatest. So they had the race and, of course, the US car won handily. The next day in the US papers the headlines all read, "US wins historic auto race against USSR." In Pravda the headline read, "Soviets come in second in historic car race. US comes in next to last."
So that's my roundabout way of asking if anyone doesn't think that Fox News is the official mouthpiece of the GOP...
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That is pretty scary Orewllian stuff man. That's why I don't watch any news on TV period. They're no worse than CNN or MSNBC though. Both parties do nothing but fling shit at each other and insult the intelligence of the public. What makes Demoncrats any better?
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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
What makes Demoncrats any better?
Excellent point!
The big 3 networks, especially NBC have lost 100's of thousands of viewers to cable, mostly Fox. Fox ratings are far dramatically higher than CNN & MSNBC combined...why? People like what they hear.
It would be honest to say that Fox New...the actual news broadcasts, definitely have a traditional, conservative aura about them, but not as far to the right as the mainstream media has gone over the far edge left. Also the Fox News "analysis shows" present the most balanced discussions on TV. There is rarely any ganging up by one side, both sides are usually given equal time to speak their minds...as opposed to MSNBC or even NBC where usually ALL the guests are rabid liberals...spewing their venom as if it was a given fact...which it is to them and their tiny, tiny audience.
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Quote:And most everything else are official mouthpieces of the DNC.
Originally posted by SoupCatcher:
So that's my roundabout way of asking if anyone doesn't think that Fox News is the official mouthpiece of the GOP...
Nihil est incertius vulgo, nihil obscurius voluntate hominum, nihil fallacius ratione tota comitiorum.
Nothing is more unpredictable than the mob, nothing more obscure than public opinion, nothing more deceptive than the whole political system.
-- Cicero
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*snort*
F*X is bad enough, but how easily people forget where *they* learned it from.
Hearst and Sinclair.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Randolph_Hearst
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sinclair_Broadcast_Group
Wiki is far too nice to these two, cause any research at all will bring it clear they were in their time, every bit as bad.
The difference today, is the Internet - something every single one of the media barons wants to strangle, cause it allows folks to do their own homework and see through the fictions being held up as fact, and effectively decry them.
The really screwed up and ironic part is that these days, Pravda is more accurate than F*X.
That's almost scary, innit ?
You look behind any of these initiatives to strangle and stifle the Internet, and you'll find the hand of the big media corps behind it.
-Frem
It cannot be said enough, those who do not learn from history, are doomed to endlessly repeat it
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What I find funny is a Left winger trying to sell us that a private news organization - FOX - is in any way remotely related to the Soviet news agancy, Pravda. What's even better, is that you're using the Daily KOS, as your basis of your story. And what is the BIG story? On 3 occasions, ( THAT'S 3 ) though 1000's of broadcast hours over weeks and weeks, FOX newsies screwed up and put an 'D' where a 'R' should be, or committed the ultimtate sin of reporting the TRUTH, in that Scotter Libby wasn't found guilty of SOMETHING.
Priceless
Lee Harvey Oswald murdered JFK Jr, and the Left somehow conned America into thinking it was anyone/ everyone BESIDES the commie loser who actually did the deed. Under 'normal' circumstances, if a nation had been told that a commie sympathiser had killed its President, the nation would be drawn more toward the Right. And yet, from '63 to '68, the political movement bewilderingly moved toward the Left. The Left wing elites said that 'Dallas' had killed JFK, because being in the South, it didn't care much for N.E. Liberal types trying to tell Southerners what to do. ( i.e. Civil Rights ) The fact of the matter was, it was a devote of that which the Left admired, one of their own, who killed Kennedy.
And so the bait and switch continues today. FOX News like Pravda, says the Daily KOS ?
Please.
People love a happy ending. So every episode, I will explain once again that I don't like people. And then Mal will shoot someone. Someone we like. And their puppy. - Joss
" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "
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Huh?? Wow... I can't believe someone is saying that mainstream media is trying to help the Republican party.
Thank you all so much for making me laugh so hard. I don't know how anyone could think that any of the mainstream media (mostly video networks) actually want to give success to the Republican party.
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What's so laughable really about the media being conservatively biased?
Yes, people in the media are probably, generally, more liberal than conservative. Sadly, that's pretty much irrelevant.
The people who call the big shots like things to be safe. Hell, company CEO's are obligated to respect profit above all else, including truth and principle.
The issue really has less to do with "republican" or "democrat" and more to do with shareholder interests, and which filter will be best for company interests.
For those of you insisting that the media generally has a liberal bias, what pray tell is the basis?
Do you think they prefer to alienate their biggest sponsors?
Do you think they want to seat politicians who will work to break up their steadily deregulated industry?
Do you think they want a return to the fairness doctrine?
If you don't think sponsorship has a hand in anything, consider the near fate of Air America. It was blacklisted by 90 BIG companies, which discretely told their advertising handlers not to to advertise on the station. Tell me that doesn't hurt a station's chances.
I could find no such list for Fox News or Limbaugh.
For that matter, Did anybody see the hatchet job CNN tried to do on SICKO?
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Does anybody have a plausible reason why big company owned capitalistic media would lean left? Or does it just fly in the face of reason, inspite of being the honest truth. Is it an industry that likes to cut off its nose in spite of its face? Do the CEO's in charge say "damn the shareholders" I want my ideology expressed!?"
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Come on, Pravda ain't that bad.
The idea that the American televised news is dominated by 'liberals' is laughable. You couldn't get a set of much more right-wing news outlets if you asked General Pinochett to take over as information minister.
More insane ramblings by the people who brought you beeeer milkshakes!
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For that matter, Did anybody see the hatchet job CNN tried to do on SICKO?
No. For once, I saw CNN actually do some honest reporting and showed Michael THE HUTT Moore to be exactly who we all knew him to be. A 2 bit lying propagandist who cherry picks facts to fit his agenda.
People love a happy ending. So every episode, I will explain once again that I don't like people. And then Mal will shoot someone. Someone we like. And their puppy. - Joss
" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "
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