'Kyle did nothing wrong'? or the crimes of the Kenosha Shooter
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Quote:Unflattering videos of Rittenhouse
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
So, does this mean that the illiterate Racist Anti-Constitution Prosecutor will charge and convict him of this weapons charge? Or is the fact that he is white absolve him, and only half-Hispanics like Kyle get to be charged with Fake Charges?
Prosecutors wanted to present two videos taken of Rittenhouse in the weeks leading up to the shooting, arguing that they provided "crucial insight" into the teenager's state of mind in summer 2020. Kenosha County Circuit Judge Bruce Schroeder disagreed in both instances.
One of the videos, which circulated widely on social media, showed Rittenhouse punching a girl from behind. Another video, filmed across the street from a CVS Pharmacy, showed hooded people rushing out of the store clutching items. Rittenhouse's voice could be heard saying, "Bro, I wish I had my fucking AR. I'd start shooting rounds at them."
https://www.insider.com/details-the-kyle-rittenhouse-jury-wont-conside
r-during-deliberations-2021-11
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Quote:According to court documents obtained by Insider, prosecutors are seeking to have the judge admit the video as evidence in Rittenhouse's upcoming trial. They said the video provided "crucial insight" into Rittenhouse's state of mind in summer 2020.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
It doesn't matter what he was there "for". What matters, at least as far as I understand, are the circumstances immediately before Rittenhouse fired his weapon.
It's one thing to shoot gooks running away from a helicopter ... you can take time to pick your targets and aim.
It's another to shoot when a mob is chasing you and one is pointing a weapon at you.
I know there are various legal limits on self defense in various states. Not sure of the applicable law in this state, but IMHO some of the limits that I've seen require far more cool-headedness than I would expect of the average civilian.
When faced with - literally- an enraged mob (a mob which, apparently, mistakenly believes that you just shot somebody) there is no hope of self defense unless you have a gun.
If Rittenhouse REALLY wanted to kill libtards, he would have positioned himself on a tall building, and started picking people off, like any sensible mass shooter. Yanno, like you shooting from a helicopter.
So instead of grinding on and on with your obsession about Rittenhouse's supposed motives ... and you have a consistent history of being wrong with your "mind reading" ... you should look at his actions.
The evidence. There's a lot of it. What does it say?
The 29-second video, which has been published by the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel, does not show Rittenhouse's face. The video was apparently filmed across the street from a CVS Pharmacy, where several hooded people could be seen rushing out and clutching items.
A voice that sounds like Rittenhouse's can be heard saying, "Bro, I wish I had my f---ing AR. I'd start shooting rounds at them."
In their motion on Wednesday, Prosecutors wrote that the new video, taken just 15 days before the Kenosha shootings, showed Rittenhouse "saw something, jumped to a conclusion based on exactly zero facts, and then threatened to kill someone based on his baseless assumption and wrongful interpretation."
Prosecutors added that Rittenhouse didn't know the people outside the CVS or what they were doing, was merely watching from a vehicle parked across the street, and was not interacting with anyone involved.
"The video proves that the defendant was ready and willing to use deadly force in a situation where it was completely unjustified," the motion said.
"The video also demonstrates that the defendant fervently sought to insert himself as an armed vigilante into situations that had nothing to do with him," prosecutors added.
https://www.insider.com/prosecutors-say-kyle-rittenhouse-video-shows-w
anted-to-shoot-people-2021-8
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Originally posted by second:Quote:According to court documents obtained by Insider, prosecutors are seeking to have the judge admit the video as evidence in Rittenhouse's upcoming trial. They said the video provided "crucial insight" into Rittenhouse's state of mind in summer 2020.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
It doesn't matter what he was there "for". What matters, at least as far as I understand, are the circumstances immediately before Rittenhouse fired his weapon.
It's one thing to shoot gooks running away from a helicopter ... you can take time to pick your targets and aim.
It's another to shoot when a mob is chasing you and one is pointing a weapon at you.
I know there are various legal limits on self defense in various states. Not sure of the applicable law in this state, but IMHO some of the limits that I've seen require far more cool-headedness than I would expect of the average civilian.
When faced with - literally- an enraged mob (a mob which, apparently, mistakenly believes that you just shot somebody) there is no hope of self defense unless you have a gun.
If Rittenhouse REALLY wanted to kill libtards, he would have positioned himself on a tall building, and started picking people off, like any sensible mass shooter. Yanno, like you shooting from a helicopter.
So instead of grinding on and on with your obsession about Rittenhouse's supposed motives ... and you have a consistent history of being wrong with your "mind reading" ... you should look at his actions.
The evidence. There's a lot of it. What does it say?
The 29-second video, which has been published by the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel, does not show Rittenhouse's face. The video was apparently filmed across the street from a CVS Pharmacy, where several hooded people could be seen rushing out and clutching items.
A voice that sounds like Rittenhouse's can be heard saying, "Bro, I wish I had my f---ing AR. I'd start shooting rounds at them."
In their motion on Wednesday, Prosecutors wrote that the new video, taken just 15 days before the Kenosha shootings, showed Rittenhouse "saw something, jumped to a conclusion based on exactly zero facts, and then threatened to kill someone based on his baseless assumption and wrongful interpretation."
Prosecutors added that Rittenhouse didn't know the people outside the CVS or what they were doing, was merely watching from a vehicle parked across the street, and was not interacting with anyone involved.
"The video proves that the defendant was ready and willing to use deadly force in a situation where it was completely unjustified," the motion said.
"The video also demonstrates that the defendant fervently sought to insert himself as an armed vigilante into situations that had nothing to do with him," prosecutors added.
https://www.insider.com/prosecutors-say-kyle-rittenhouse-video-shows-w
anted-to-shoot-people-2021-8
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Just imagine your court case when they ask for the archive of all the horrible shit you've said here.
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Deliberations are scheduled to start tomorrow.
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Quote:Rittenhouse said he would kill his victims with his AR-15 and he did. The Judge wouldn't allow Rittenhouse's killing words entered as evidence of murder because Rittenhouse didn't say the words where his victims could hear them. The Judge is a senile old fool, by which I mean he is the oldest and longest serving judge in the state, letting the jury hear a boatload of false testimony about Rittenhouse "protecting" himself. There was zero proof that Rittenhouse was protecting himself. No proof that the dead people had killed before. No proof the dead people wanted to kill anyone or have ever killed anyone before, during or after. But there was plenty of proof (the AR-15, his words, his associations, his politics, his t-shirts, his being where he should not be) that Rittenhouse went there to kill people. And then there are the corpses to prove Rittenhouse did kill people.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Just imagine your court case when they ask for the archive of all the horrible shit you've said here.
The Judge proved he is a senile old fool:
Toobin on Judge Schroeder: 'What the hell is he talking about?'
CNN's Jeffrey Toobin discusses Judge Bruce Schroeder's confusing jury instructions during the Kyle Rittenhouse trial.
https://www.cnn.com/videos/us/2021/11/15/bruce-schroeder-rittenhouse-t
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Quote:The bit about a gun pointed "at this head" might be an exaggeration. Maybe in the general direction of is more like what I've read.
I have seen the one-armed bandit EMT testify, under oath, in this trial, that he did in fact have a handgun and pointed it at Kyle's head ...
I'm curious about the protocol of self defense.
If I sight on you, but then move my gun to aim at something else, what's the timeline for it to count as self defense?
So, if I sight on you then aim at something else, obviously if you shoot me 5 days later, it's not self defense because I'm not am imminent threat. How about 5 minutes? Or 5 seconds? At what point is it reasonably thought of as self defense instead of murder?
Also, what seems to be missing from a lot of these stories is the complete set of facts. Everyone seems to be picking and choosing the parts they want to include in their narrative, while leaving the rest of the facts out.
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Originally posted by 1KIKI:Quote:The bit about a gun pointed "at this head" might be an exaggeration. Maybe in the general direction of is more like what I've read.
I have seen the one-armed bandit EMT testify, under oath, in this trial, that he did in fact have a handgun and pointed it at Kyle's head ...
I'm curious about the protocol of self defense.
If I sight on you, but then move my gun to aim at something else, what's the timeline for it to count as self defense?
So, if I sight on you then aim at something else, obviously if you shoot me 5 days later, it's not self defense because I'm not am imminent threat. How about 5 minutes? Or 5 seconds? At what point is it reasonably thought of as self defense instead of murder?
Also, what seems to be missing from a lot of these stories is the complete set of facts. Everyone seems to be picking and choosing the parts they want to include in their narrative, while leaving the rest of the facts out.
What the shit?
Why are you relying on the Media to tell you what to think all the time?
Has Covid made you as dumb as Joe Biden*?
Have you not seen this video?
https://www.bitchute.com/video/GMyOLOS8c0CG/
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Originally posted by second:Quote:Rittenhouse said he would kill his victims with his AR-15 and he did.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Just imagine your court case when they ask for the archive of all the horrible shit you've said here.
If Trump ever disappears, the Feds will be checking the digestive tracks of pig farms in the general area of your IP address in Texas.
Because you said you'd kill him and get away with it and feed his body to the pigs.
Don't worry, Second. I know you deleted it, but that's what archive sites are for.
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Quote:What is missing is how the Constitution recently gave childish Kyle Rittenhouse the right to kill his political enemies and such killing was renamed self-defense.
Originally posted by 1KIKI:
Also, what seems to be missing from a lot of these stories is the complete set of facts. Everyone seems to be picking and choosing the parts they want to include in their narrative, while leaving the rest of the facts out.
Amendment II -- A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.
Much has changed since 1791. The traditional militia fell into desuetude, and state-based militia organizations were eventually incorporated into the federal military structure. The nation’s military establishment has become enormously more powerful than eighteenth century armies. We still hear political rhetoric about federal tyranny, but most Americans do not fear the nation’s armed forces and virtually no one thinks that an armed populace could defeat those forces in battle. Furthermore, eighteenth century civilians routinely kept at home the very same weapons they would need if called to serve in the militia, while modern soldiers are equipped with weapons that differ significantly from those generally thought appropriate for civilian uses. Civilians no longer expect to use their household weapons for militia duty, although they still keep and bear arms to defend against common criminals (as well as for hunting and other forms of recreation).
Until recently, the judiciary treated the Second Amendment almost as a dead letter. In District of Columbia v. Heller (2008), however, the Supreme Court invalidated a federal law that forbade nearly all civilians from possessing handguns in the nation’s capital. A 5–4 majority ruled that the language and history of the Second Amendment showed that it protects a private right of individuals to have arms for their own defense, not a right of the states to maintain a militia.
Two years later, in McDonald v. City of Chicago (2010), the Court struck down a similar handgun ban at the state level, again by a 5–4 vote. Four Justices relied on judicial precedents under the Fourteenth Amendment’s Due Process Clause. Justice Thomas rejected those precedents in favor of reliance on the Privileges or Immunities Clause, but all five members of the majority concluded that the Fourteenth Amendment protects against state infringement of the same individual right that is protected from federal infringement by the Second Amendment.
Many issues remain open, and the lower courts have disagreed with one another about some of them, including important questions involving restrictions on carrying weapons in public.
https://constitutioncenter.org/interactive-constitution/interpretation
/amendment-ii/interps/99
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Quote:I like the picture of angry Trumptards looking at entrails for traces of Trump. It will require advanced DNA science to detect the difference between what is Trump and what is pig shit.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
If Trump ever disappears, the Feds will be checking the digestive tracks of pig farms in the general area of your IP address in Texas.
Because you said you'd kill him and get away with it and feed his body to the pigs.
Don't worry, Second. I know you deleted it, but that's what archive sites are for.
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Originally posted by second:Quote:I like the picture of angry Trumptards looking at entrails for traces of Trump. It will require advanced DNA science to detect the difference between what is Trump and what is pig shit.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
If Trump ever disappears, the Feds will be checking the digestive tracks of pig farms in the general area of your IP address in Texas.
Because you said you'd kill him and get away with it and feed his body to the pigs.
Don't worry, Second. I know you deleted it, but that's what archive sites are for.
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OK. I've got to admit. That one made me giggle.
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Ask about Kyle Rittenhouse at a gun range, and people will give you a look—and then start talking.
Lloyd, another Black visitor on his 30s, was also skeptical of Rittenhouse. He’s been paying close attention to the trial.
“I think it’s bullshit. They are giving him too much leeway,” he said. “To me, it’s premeditated because he brought a gun to a protest. I can’t go to your house with a gun to get you—I’m getting locked up for a long time.” (Lloyd, like Willy, did not volunteer his political leanings.)
Lloyd, who owns at least three guns, bought his weapons not to protect his home but his family. He was careful to make the distinction. “I got insurance to replace everything. I can’t replace my family. That’s all it is. It’s a tool just like any other tool,” he said. If things were to ever go wrong, he told me he can’t imagine himself being treated the same as Rittenhouse. (“They took that white boy who shot up a Black church to McDonalds. You think they’d take me to McDonalds?” he said. I unfortunately knew what he was talking about.) "Cops bought Burger King for Dylann Roof following his arrest"
https://abc7.com/dylann-roof-south-carolina-church-shooting-emanuel-af
rican-methodist-episcopal/801013/
Lloyd has a conceal carry permit, but keeps his gun locked in his trunk. He doesn’t like showing it off. He worries that the Rittenhouse case makes all gun owners look reckless. “Think of the responsibility of how it reflects on you as a gun owner,” he said. “I think it’s OK to want to protect yourself, but I don’t believe your right to own a gun is just a right. It comes with responsibility.”
More at https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2021/11/kyle-rittenhouse-trial-bla
ck-rifle-coffee-gun-range.html
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Originally posted by 1KIKI:Quote:The bit about a gun pointed "at this head" might be an exaggeration. Maybe in the general direction of is more like what I've read.
I have seen the one-armed bandit EMT testify, under oath, in this trial, that he did in fact have a handgun and pointed it at Kyle's head ...
I'm curious about the protocol of self defense.
If I sight on you, but then move my gun to aim at something else, what's the timeline for it to count as self defense?
So, if I sight on you then aim at something else, obviously if you shoot me 5 days later, it's not self defense because I'm not am imminent threat. How about 5 minutes? Or 5 seconds? At what point is it reasonably thought of as self defense instead of murder?
Also, what seems to be missing from a lot of these stories is the complete set of facts. Everyone seems to be picking and choosing the parts they want to include in their narrative, while leaving the rest of the facts out.
Quote:Not going to click on any of your Jack's links because ... you.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
What the shit?
Why are you relying on the Media to tell you what to think all the time?
Has Covid made you as dumb as Joe Biden*?
Have you not seen this video?
https://www.bitchute.com/video/GMyOLOS8c0CG/
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But THIS video CLEARLY shows that as Rittenhouse was running, he TURNED AROUND AND
AIMED HIS AR AT THE PEOPLE RUNNING AFTER HIM HIM.
https://news.yahoo.com/enhanced-drone-video-shows-first-155330597.html
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Quote:HIM HIM? Rittenhouse came there to kill his political enemies if there was an opportunity. As he was running away, he realized this was the opportunity he had been waiting for. He had a gun. He had a motive. He had an excuse to kill his enemies. Later, his highly paid defense team could magically turn homicide into self-defense. It was the end to a perfect evening for Rittenhouse. Much more fun for Rittenhouse than staying home and watching TV. When I was a kid, we'd have pine cone wars at night, hitting each other only with brown pine cones because the green ones were small, hard and would break the skin. Rocks were absolutely forbidden weapons. I guess Rittenhouse never played that war game with pine cones. He skipped over brown pine cones, green pine cones, rocks, and went directly to lead bullets.
Originally posted by 1KIKI:
But THIS video CLEARLY shows that as Rittenhouse was running, he TURNED AROUND AND
AIMED HIS AR AT THE PEOPLE RUNNING AFTER HIM HIM.
https://news.yahoo.com/enhanced-drone-video-shows-first-155330597.html
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Originally posted by 1KIKI:
Not going to click on any of your Jack's links because ... you.
That's why you're a stupid and ignorant bitch.
I didn't make the video. That unedited video has been around since the very day of the incident.
Good luck finding it on YouTube anymore where the Leftist Activists ban anyone who doesn't follow the narrative. It's not being removed from Bitchute though.
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Originally posted by second:Quote:HIM HIM? Rittenhouse came there to kill his political enemies if there was an opportunity. As he was running away, he realized this was the opportunity he had been waiting for. He had a gun. He had a motive. He had an excuse to kill his enemies. Later, his highly paid defense team could magically turn homicide into self-defense. It was the end to a perfect evening for Rittenhouse. Much more fun for Rittenhouse than staying home and watching TV. When I was a kid, we'd have pine cone wars at night, hitting each other only with brown pine cones because the green ones were small, hard and would break the skin. Rocks were absolutely forbidden weapons. I guess Rittenhouse never played that war game with pine cones. He skipped over brown pine cones, green pine cones, rocks, and went directly to lead bullets.
Originally posted by 1KIKI:
But THIS video CLEARLY shows that as Rittenhouse was running, he TURNED AROUND AND
AIMED HIS AR AT THE PEOPLE RUNNING AFTER HIM HIM.
https://news.yahoo.com/enhanced-drone-video-shows-first-155330597.html
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He didn't turn around until he was suckerpunched with a skateboard to the head.
You're both smoking crack.
Oh... and P.S. There is no such thing as "enhanced" video. Anybody saying that there is is lying to you. Stop watching stupid cop shows.
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The Supreme Court Is About to Open the Door to a Lot More Kyle Rittenhouse Situations When Everything Is “Self-Defense” and everyone gets a gun.
All of this is terrific news if one thinks every public gathering, indeed every public space, is enhanced by the presence of more guns. As the majority of the Supreme Court seems to have confirmed in this month’s oral arguments for New York State Rifle & Pistol Association v. Bruen, such a world is A-OK by them.
Justice Samuel Alito, for example, demonstrated his boundless concern for, as he put it, “law-abiding citizens” in New York City who are forced to “commute home by subway, maybe by bus,” and are unable to carry guns to protect themselves in a shootout, which would presumably occur on a crowded train or platform.
Yes, this is the world the current court seems likely to create, and it will leave the details of who intended to kill and who was just defending himself and who merely killed someone out of fear his gun would be wrested from him to any number of future juries.
Each of the three trials dominating the news this month features armed citizens taking up weapons to travel to public spaces where they believed themselves to be under threat.
In the trial of the three killers of Ahmaud Arbery in Georgia and the Rittenhouse trial in Wisconsin, the defendants claim that they were justified in their use of violence when they killed unarmed people in self-defense.
In both prosecutions “the defendants claim they were entitled to start shooting because the victims were trying to take their guns.”
White supremacists currently facing a civil trial in Charlottesville, Virginia, for harming others at a Nazi-style rally in 2017 are offering similar defenses, claiming that they too armed themselves and attacked peaceful counterprotesters out of a fear for their own safety.
Kimberly Kessler Ferzan, a professor of law and philosophy at the University of Pennsylvania, arguing in the Texas Law Review that “the problem is that with a citizenry armed with guns, we have blurred every line.”
Indeed, once everyone in public spaces is armed and operating under a sprawling regime of “stand your ground” and citizen’s arrest statutes plus a mushrooming mistrust of law enforcement, how will courts ever sort out who instigated and who responded? As Ferzan put it in her law review article: “What is defense? What is reasonable? When may one stand one’s ground and when must one retreat? And, when is a citizen entitled to step in as an aggressor in the name of the state?”
If you can arm yourself because you have declared yourself a substitute for law enforcement and then you claim people were grabbing for your weapon so you killed them with it, when are you every not justified in killing?
More at https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2021/11/kyle-rittenhouse-trial-gun
s-self-defense.html
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Originally posted by second:
The Supreme Court Is About to Open the Door to a Lot More Kyle Rittenhouse Situations When Everything Is “Self-Defense” and everyone gets a gun.
Hey dickhead.
Your boy with one arm had a gun. Unlike Kyle's it was an illegal firearm.
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Originally posted by 1KIKI:Quote:
Originally posted by 1KIKI:Quote:The bit about a gun pointed "at this head" might be an exaggeration. Maybe in the general direction of is more like what I've read.
I have seen the one-armed bandit EMT testify, under oath, in this trial, that he did in fact have a handgun and pointed it at Kyle's head ...
I'm curious about the protocol of self defense.
If I sight on you, but then move my gun to aim at something else, what's the timeline for it to count as self defense?
So, if I sight on you then aim at something else, obviously if you shoot me 5 days later, it's not self defense because I'm not am imminent threat. How about 5 minutes? Or 5 seconds? At what point is it reasonably thought of as self defense instead of murder?
Also, what seems to be missing from a lot of these stories is the complete set of facts. Everyone seems to be picking and choosing the parts they want to include in their narrative, while leaving the rest of the facts out.
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
What the shit?
Why are you relying on the Media to tell you what to think all the time?
Has Covid made you as dumb as Joe Biden*?
Have you not seen this video?
https://www.bitchute.com/video/GMyOLOS8c0CG/
This.
Might be post of the week.
Quote:And here the ignorant delusional Libtard insists on keeping her blinders on so she can remain ignorant and keep asking ignorant delusional Libtard queries after gobbling up all of her Fake News sources.
Not going to click on any of your Jack's links because ... you.
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All 3 of the Rioters, Looters, arsonists were convicted criminals.
https://www.wisconsinrightnow.com/2021/03/12/kenosha-shooting/
Rosenbaum, the insane jerk who kicked it all off, raped 9-year-old boys in AZ.
Huber Had been charged with a collection of felonies: Recklessly Endangering Safety with Use of a Dangerous Weapon, Strangulation and Suffocation, False Imprisonment with Use of a Dangerous Weapon. He had a stack of violent repetitive Domestic Abuse charges, and he was Court Ordered to not possess weapons - so maybe he figured killing folk with a skateboard was OK.
One armed bandit Grosskreutz, the clown who pointed his handgun at Kyle to provoke Kyle to shoot him, was already convicted of being armed with a firearm while intoxicated in 2016.
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Quote:I think the word choice was incorrect. I corrected it above.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:Quote:That's why you're a stupid and ignorant bitch.
Originally posted by 1KIKI:
Not going to click on any of your Jack's links because ... you.
I didn't make the video. That unedited video has been around since the very day of the incident.
Good luck finding it on YouTube anymore where the Leftist Activists ban anyone who doesn'tfollowconform to the narrative. It's not being removed from Bitchute though.
Also, and aside, the total time elapsed from Ziminski firing behind Kyle, then shooting of attacker Rosenbaum, then firing at but not hitting another attacker,then getting bashed in the head with a skateboard by Huber and shooting him, and then firing at and missing another attacker, then Grosskreutz aiming his illegal handgun at Kyle and Kyle shooting him, was all of 16 seconds.
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Quote:The only people who have reason to carry arms on the street are the police, the national guard, security guards, and criminals. Any other people carrying guns are lunatics. "Your boy with one arm" who had a gun was a criminal. Rittenhouse was a lunatic who will likely join the category of a criminal.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:Quote:
Originally posted by second:
The Supreme Court Is About to Open the Door to a Lot More Kyle Rittenhouse Situations When Everything Is “Self-Defense” and everyone gets a gun.
Hey dickhead.
Your boy with one arm had a gun. Unlike Kyle's it was an illegal firearm.
In Texas, the noncriminals I know carrying guns think they are 007, James Bond. They are not. They are lunatics. Unlike 007, their marksmanship is poor and gets worse under stress, as does their judgement. Being frightened or angry and being sensible about targets does not go together.
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Jack and J ... I've seen more videos than the 2 of you put together. There was MUTUAL gun-pointing going on. It's there - on undeniable video. I even posted a link that cleanly shows Rittenhouse pointing his AR at people. So who's the aggressor, and who's the defender? IT DEPENDS WHO STARTED IT. But all the videos show the end, and none show the beginning.
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Quote:I have seen people who are slow and unsure about making big decisions in their own lives go to a gun store and purchase a weapon. Suddenly they feel powerful and capable of making quick life or death decisions for other people but they are no more capable than they were before making a gun purchase.
Originally posted by 1KIKI:
Jack and J ... I've seen more videos than the 2 of you put together. There was MUTUAL gun-pointing going on. It's there - on undeniable video. I even posted a link that cleanly shows Rittenhouse pointing his AR at people. So who's the aggressor, and who's the defender? IT DEPENDS WHO STARTED IT. But all the videos show the end, and none show the beginning.
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Republican Mark McCloskey, a candidate for the U.S. Senate in Missouri, was photographed Tuesday outside the Wisconsin courthouse where Kyle Rittenhouse was on trial for murder. McCloskey on Tuesday was photographed standing next to two men flashing an “OK” sign, which is associated with white supremacists. Rittenhouse was also photographed in January with two men as they made the “OK” sign with their hands. The judge in September ruled against allowing that to be discussed during Rittenhouse's trial.
McCloskey and his wife, Patricia, were both in Kenosha, Wisconsin, on Monday and Tuesday to show support for Rittenhouse. The McCloskeys gained national attention after they waved guns at racial injustice protesters who were marching in their gated St. Louis subdivision last summer.
Mark McCloskey compared himself to Rittenhouse in a statement Tuesday, saying they have both been prosecuted and were defending themselves from an “angry mob.” McCloskey said he hopes the jury finds Rittenhouse not guilty.
The McCloskeys pleaded guilty in June to misdemeanor charges after waving guns at protesters and were ordered to pay fines, but Mark McCloskey left the courthouse defiantly pledging to “do it again” if faced with the same circumstances. Both McCloskeys were pardoned by Republican Missouri Gov. Mike Parson.
https://www.nbcchicago.com/news/local/us-senate-candidate-mccloskey-sh
ows-support-for-rittenhouse/2686440/
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I'll bet all the jurors are buying guns after this.
They know that they're going to be murdered if they don't give the "right" verdict.
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Quote:That is where the judge went livid.
Rittenhouse Attorneys Livid After Prosecutors Withheld High-Def Drone Footage, Gave Them "Compressed Version"
Wednesday, Nov 17, 2021 - 11:02 AM
Authored by Andrea Widburg via American Thinker (emphasis ours),
During the Kyle Rittenhouse trial, the prosecution argued that Kyle provoked the men who attacked him by waving his gun. To prove this, during the trial, the prosecution gave the defense fuzzy drone footage. There was a great deal of argument about what could be extrapolated from that fuzzy view. It turns out that the prosecution had within its possession a high-quality video that it played for the judge after the trial ended. On this, and other evidentiary grounds, the defense moved for a mistrial with prejudice. [With prejudice: no retrial possible]
Defense attorney Mark Richards gives his closing argument on Monday
The defense motion states the facts with sufficient clarity that I'm going to reprint them here verbatim:
On November 5. 2021, the fifth day of trial on this case, the prosecution turned over to the defense footage of a drone video which captured some of the incident from August 25, 2020. The problem is, the prosecution gave the defense a compressed version of the video. What that means is the video provided to the defense was not as clear as the video kept by the state. The file size of the defense video is 3.6 MB and the state's is 11.2 MB. Further, the dimensions on our video are 480 x 212, the state's, 1920 x 844. The video which was in the state's possession, wasn't provided to the defense until after the trial concluded. During the jury instructions conference, the defense played their version of the video for the court to review. The state indicated their version was much clearer and had their tech person come into court to have the court review their clearer video. The video is the same; the resolution of that video, however, was not. The state did not provide their quality video to the defense until Saturday, November 13, 2021, and only did so upon specific request by Attorney Wisco — two days before closing arguments and after the evidence had been closed.
Under Wisconsin law, when the defense makes a demand, the prosecution must provide to the defense "[a]ny physical evidence that the district attorney intends to offer in evidence at the trial" and "[a]ny exculpatory evidence." That's Wisconsin Stat. § 971.23(1)(g) & (h). I don't have the time to research the law, but my bet is that if Wisconsin's appellate court ever had before it the question of whether the prosecutor may get away with producing bastardized, degraded versions of the requested evidence, it would say emphatically not.
The motion for a mistrial with prejudice also raises the fact that, when Kyle Rittenhouse took the witness stand, the prosecutors improperly accused him of keeping silent after his arrest. That right, of course, is enshrined in the famous Miranda rights warning that all arrestees in America receive: "You have the right to remain silent ..." The corollary to that right is that this silence cannot be used against the defendant in a court of law, but that's exactly what the prosecution tried to do.
I'm going to add that, according to the video of the trial, prosecution's excuse for even bringing that up is that Rittenhouse only made a statement after having seen
Also, as an aside, in the process of turning our hardcopy evidence into digital, when we scanned it, we ALWAYS used the full-resolution setting (.tiff). .jpg and other file formats are c
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So, what does this all mean?
If prosecutors had a BETTER, higher resolution drone footage of the event showing that Rittenhouse was pointing his gun, why withhold it? Wouldn't it have bolstered their case, instead of forcing jurors to squint at a grainy image, trying to decipher what it showed? Or did the better video show people in the mob making threatening gestures as well?
And why would prosecutors go against the judge's EXPLICIT instructions not to bring up Rittenhouse's "right to remain silent" (as well as contravene the Constitution)?
Either the prosecution is unimagineably imcompetent, or they're deliberately setting up a for mistrial.
Their performance is puzzling, to say the least.
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
So, what does this all mean?
If prosecutors had a BETTER, higher resolution drone footage of the event showing that Rittenhouse was pointing his gun, why withhold it? Wouldn't it have bolstered their case, instead of forcing jurors to squint at a grainy image, trying to decipher what it showed? Or did the better video show people in the mob making threatening gestures as well?
And why would prosecutors go against the judge's EXPLICIT instructions not to bring up Rittenhouse's "right to remain silent" (as well as contravene the Constitution)?
Either the prosecution is unimagineably imcompetent, or they're deliberately setting up a for mistrial.
Their performance is puzzling, to say the least.
I'd just once again like to point out what I posted yesterday...
Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Oh... and P.S. There is no such thing as "enhanced" video. Anybody saying that there is is lying to you. Stop watching stupid cop shows.
Fucking lying media. All they do is lie. Just got caught lying again.
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Quote:Convicting Rittenhouse means death for the Jury: A protester who had clashed with Black Lives Matter supporters at the Kyle Rittenhouse trial returned outside the courthouse toting an AR-15-style rifle Wednesday.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I'll bet all the jurors are buying guns after this.
They know that they're going to be murdered if they don't give the "right" verdict.
The man, who referred to himself as “Maserati Mike,” arrived carrying a megaphone in addition to the long rifle and what appeared to be a bulletproof vest.
He was briefly questioned by authorities who asked him to leave, citing a law that prohibits rifles within 1,000 feet of a school.
Shortly after, he drove away in his banged-up Maserati, only to return about an hour later sans rifle.
“Black Lives Matter is a terrorist organization,” the man, who appeared to have a knife in his pocket, shouted into a megaphone.
When approached for an interview, he replied, “I don’t speak to the media.”
The alarming appearance comes a day after he had sparred with Black Lives Matter protesters who were shouting, “No justice, no peace.”
“F-k Black Lives Matter," the man fired back at the group.
“If the glove don’t fit, acquit,” he added. (That was infamous dual murderer O.J. Simpson's defense, and O.J. went free.)
https://nypost.com/2021/11/17/maserati-mike-shows-up-with-rifle-at-kyl
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
So, what does this all mean?
If prosecutors had a BETTER, higher resolution drone footage of the event showing that Rittenhouse was pointing his gun, why withhold it? Wouldn't it have bolstered their case, instead of forcing jurors to squint at a grainy image, trying to decipher what it showed? Or did the better video show people in the mob making threatening gestures as well?
And why would prosecutors go against the judge's EXPLICIT instructions not to bring up Rittenhouse's "right to remain silent" (as well as contravene the Constitution)?
Either the prosecution is unimaginably incompetent, or they're deliberately setting up a for mistrial.
Their performance is puzzling, to say the least.
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There's a lot about this case that's puzzling.
BTW the judge has a standing order that he imposes on ALL cases heard in his court - that NOBODY gets called a 'victim' - at least before a guilty verdict is reached. He believes that calling someone a victim is prejudicial against the defense. So that wasn't a rule he imposed only for this case.
The prosecution impugning the defendant's silence was maybe 'theater'. Because, despite any instructions to the jury to ignore select statements, nobody can unhear them. Both sides do that, in order to plant ideas in the jurors, even if they get a ruling against them and a motion to strike. What the prosecution may not have expected is the judge's vehemence. Perhaps the judge had just heard that tactic too many times, and was having none of it from the prosecution, like calling people victims (though if there were similar statements made by the defense that didn't get that reaction, is unknown).
I've sat on 3 juries of increasing severity: grand theft and possessing a stolen vehicle; attempted murder; and murder. (The verdicts were guilty; not guilty; and guilty, in that order.)
BOTH prosecution AND defense often play a lot of games. For example, in the attempted murder trial, the defendant, who was a huge dood, was accused of trying to murder another guy by hitting him repeatedly with a baseball bat, such that the beaten guy spent a long time in the hospital recovering and was left with some disability. (The defendant had previously stolen the beaten guy's gun from a gym bag in a closet at a party they both mutually attended, which is why they got into a scuffle in the first place. The verdict in the stolen gun trial was guilty, which we found out afterwards.)
We reached our not-guilty verdict for a couple of reasons. First, we did recognize that there were provoking reasons for the beaten up guy to get in a scuffle with the defendant. Because in all likelihood, the defendant had stolen the gun and was taunting the beaten-up guy over it.
But 1) the beaten-up guy threw the first punch, and 2) as soon as the beaten-up guy stopped swinging at the defendant, the defendant stopped hitting him with a baseball bat. So even though it was a case of fists versus bat, it seemed to lean more toward self-defense and less toward attempted murder.
But AFTER we reached our verdict, the lawyers let down their hair and talked with us. And one of them (I forget which) basically said - you might think they'd bring in the beaten-up guy because with his permanent injuries he'd be a sympathetic character. But the reason why they didn't bring in the beaten-up guy was because while the defendant is tall and hefty he's a lard-ass, and the beaten up guy was even bigger and really buff. And they also did inform us that the lard-ass guy really did take the gun.
In general, lawyers will instruct witnesses to ONLY directly answer the question.
I can see how the tactic works for the defense. Your own lawyer is probably only going to ask you questions that elicit vanilla answers. And the prosecution is going to only ask you questions that can trip you up. If
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Rittenhouse judge unloads wild rant about Black jurors after jury asks unrelated question
Judge Bruce Schroeder defended his actions and attacked the media at a hearing on Wednesday after the jury asked an unrelated question about the Kyle Rittenhouse trial.
Schroeder went off-topic at the hearing to address criticisms he has received in the media.
The judge defended his decision to not allow the people who were shot to be called "victims" because he said it was unfair to Rittenhouse.
"How would you like to be put on trial for a crime and the judge introduced the case to the jury by introducing you as the defendant and the person who's accusing you as the victim?" he asked. "Is it so difficult to use the term 'complaining witness' instead of prejudging what the jury is here to determine?"
He also explained why he allowed the defendant to control the lottery determining which jurors would decide the case.
"I am now reading about how bizarre and unusual it was to have the defendant pick the [juror] numbers out of the tumbler yesterday," Schroeder said. "I would admit that I don't know there's a large number of courts that do that. Maybe not any."
"I do it because of an incident that I had in a case I tried in Racine," he recalled. "I think it was a murder case but I'm not sure. And there was a Black defendant and there were 13 jurors. One of them was Black. And when the clerk -- the clerk, the government official drew the name out of the tumbler, it was a Black, the Black, the only Black."
Since that time, the judge said that he allows the defendants to select alternate jurors so they "feel better."
"We talk about optics nowadays," he said. "That was a bad optic, I thought. I think people feel better when they have control."
Before finishing his rant about the media, Schroeder threatened to remove future trials from live television.
"When I talked about problems with the media when this trial started, we were there in part," he complained, "because of grossly irresponsible handling of what comes out of this trial."
"I'm going to think long and hard again about live television for a trial next time," the judge added. "What's being done is really quite frightening" for a doddering old fool judge.
https://www.rawstory.com/judge-bruce-schroeder-2655752488/
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I was an alternate for a trial where some woman's BF was accused of beating up her boss, bc her boss made sexual advances to her and made it sound like a condition of employment.
well, the boss, WAS a young sleazeball. But he showed up in a suit that was 2 sizes too big for him, so that he would look small and helpless. (REALLY???)
The BF was a bigger buff dood. In the end, despite the fact that the boss really WAS a sleazeball ... you just don't go beating someone up for sex discrimination. There are people to complain to, especially since Sleazeball Boss was managing a Federal fund for black businesses in a black neighborhood. I'm sure the feds would have liked to have known what was going on. So the jury decided BF was guilty of assault and battery, and that was my independent decision, too.
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With Biden* failing on everything, Ted didn't even post today and Second has only posted in this thread.
At least he's not posting about Trump now.
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I listened to the video. I would hardly describe it as a "rant". It came across as more of an explanation. And I wouldn't describe it as "wild", either, altho I know that as far as SECOND is concerned, ANYONE who disagrees with him is either crazy or a 'tard. Too bad SECOND can't see that he's the crazy person around here.
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Quote:Trump wrote on 11/17/21: When the Broken Old Crow, Mitch McConnell, agreed to a two-month extension, he allowed the Democrats to get their act together and pass the $1.2 Trillion “Non-Infrastructure” Green New Deal Bill, which is a disaster for America in that only 11% of the money will be spent on REAL Infrastructure, with most being spent on Green New Deal nonsense, with big tax increases. Its actual cost is over $2 Trillion, but the bigger disaster is yet to come in the next, much larger version of the Green New Deal, which some people say will be $5 Trillion. This was all allowed by Mitch McConnell’s incompetence and now I understand that a couple Republican Senators may get on board so that they can have yet another and even bigger victory, for the Democrats, while at the same time ensuring massive Inflation and the destruction of our Country as we know it. This is what happens when you allow a guy who lost an Election to take over the Office of the President. He obviously had no mandate, but they’re changing our Country and everything it stands for. Mitch McConnell couldn’t stop the first Bill so 19 Senators, including himself, joined in. That’s what he does—if you can’t beat them, join them. If he wasn’t so stupid and didn’t give the two-month extension, he could have stopped it all. Now he and his RINO friends will allow a much bigger and far worse Bill to pass, ruining our Country while giving the Democrats a great political lift, all at the same time. People, with the help of the Fake News Media, have already forgotten about the horrendous Afghanistan withdrawal, an economy and jobs that are in shambles, and so many other things. The good news is, they can’t forget about Inflation because it’s hitting them right in the face. This is the Broken Old Crow’s fault. He could have won it all using the Debt Ceiling—they were ready to fold. Now the Democrats have a big victory and the wind at their back. McConnell is a fool and he damn well better stop their “Dream of Communism Bill” and keep his Senators in line, or he should resign now, something he should have done a long time ago. Use the Debt Ceiling like it should have been used, you Old Broken Crow, to do so would hurt our Country far less than this horrible Bill. Any Republican in the House or Senate who votes for this Bill will never ever get a Trump Endorsement. Thank you, and good luck!
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
With Biden* failing on everything, Ted didn't even post today and Second has only posted in this thread.
At least he's not posting about Trump now.
https://www.donaldjtrump.com/news/news-uyyehqxefz1082
Trump didn't use any paragraph breaks, but at least he did mark the end of sentences with a ! or a .
In other news, Trump is suing for the billionth time : Based on the foregoing, it is hereby demanded that the Pulitzer Prize Board take immediate steps to strip the New York Times and The Washington Post of the 2018 Pulitzer Prize for National Reporting. Pulitzer Prize Board’s failure to do so will result in prompt legal action being taken against it. Please be guided accordingly.
https://www.donaldjtrump.com/news/news-f9kmf52vby1084
Correction: Trump is not suing. He is threatening to sue. I'm pretty sure his lawyers have written trillions of threatening letters.
Trump declines to condemn Kyle Rittenhouse for killing of two protesters
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lol
I knew all I had to do to get the bot to post about Trump was to mention his name.
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Quote:In the parable of the sheep and the goats, Rittenhouse and Trump are Biblical goats, but with modern lawyers arguing they are sheep.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
lol
I knew all I had to do to get the bot to post about Trump was to mention his name.
https://www.google.com/search?q=parable+of+the+sheep+and+the+goats
It gets even more silly when the voters who try passing as sheep on the internet but in reality live as goats insist that real sheep are goats, but it is not confusing because whenever Trump bleats he sounds exactly the same as a goat, which keeps his herd of goats together.
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Who set the Bot to the Bible Channel again?
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Look at that...
Lying USA Today not even mentioning the word "enhanced" today and telling the truth about how one side got a grainy version of the video while the other side had the original high def version.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2021/11/18/rittenhouse-jury
-day-3-judge-weighs-mistrial-drone-video/8663571002/
ENHANCING VIDEO IS NOT POSSIBLE.
Any of you dummies here who were saying there was "enhanced" drone footage because the media lied to you again going to come out and admit you were wrong?
That question is rhetorical. I know you dummies aren't going to do that.
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Quote:The law gives even foolish men the right to defend their lives. But an acquittal does not make a foolish man a hero. A political movement that turns a deadly and ineffective vigilante into a role model is a movement that is courting more violence and encouraging more young men to recklessly brandish weapons in dangerous places, and that will spill more blood in America’s streets. Was that simple enough for you to understand, 6ix?
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Who set the Bot to the Bible Channel again?
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Originally posted by second:Quote:The law gives even foolish men the right to defend their lives. But an acquittal does not make a foolish man a hero. A political movement that turns a deadly and ineffective vigilante into a role model is a movement that is courting more violence and encouraging more young men to recklessly brandish weapons in dangerous places, and that will spill more blood in America’s streets. Was that simple enough for you to understand, 6ix?
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Who set the Bot to the Bible Channel again?
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
Stupid is your native language. I don't read or write Stupid.
Go back and disavow all of the Leftist riots, looting and arson over the last year and a half and get back to me about this then.
You have ZERO legs to stand on in this argument, hypocrite.
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Judge bans PMSNBC, NBC from courthouse.
PMSNBC Producer James Morrison was caught stalking the jurors, and NBC Booking Agent Irene Byon (who assigned him to stalk the jurors) has been busily nuking her social media pages.
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Supposedly the jurors aren't seeing the coverage - or threats- but something filters in anyway.
Also, their extremely biased reporting would amp up mob violence if the jury came back with anything less than a murder conviction. That implicit threat might factor into a jury decision, even tho it's not supposed to.
Whatever happened to truthful, investigative reporting? It's all opinion, accusation, and spin.
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KIKI- IMHO it's not a simple case of "who started it". And not a simple case of "equivalent" force either.
To me it's more of a case of "credible threat" .. would an average person's self defense be triggered by a credible threat.
Some weaponless nobody yelling at you from 25 ft away would make me feel uneasy, but not enough to shoot. But 20 weaponless people chasing me would definitely make me want a gun. This reminds me of the Bernhard Goetz shooting: four young punks were threatening him. True, they only had screwdrivers, but there were four of them So he shot them. There was some talk of murder charge but in the end he was convicted of illegal possession of a firearm.
If Rittenhouse was waving his weapon (the subject of the grainy video, apparently) what were the circumstances?
I don't know. I haven't been following this, too busy to track down all of the video evidence, which is where I think the heart of the truth is.
No matter how the M$M tries to spin it by "mind reading" and "name calling".
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Quote:The judge had already made mention of possibly not allowing Live media in the future, due to the Fake News reporting the opposite of the facts, instead of his intention of providing transparency.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Supposedly the jurors aren't seeing the coverage - or threats- but something filters in anyway.
Also, their extremely biased reporting would amp up mob violence if the jury came back with anything less than a murder conviction. That implicit threat might factor into a jury decision, even tho it's not supposed to.
Whatever happened to truthful, investigative reporting? It's all opinion, accusation, and spin.
However, this ban was due to the threat to Constitutional anonimity of jurors, in the face of Libtards doxxing honest jurors.
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Yup. MSNBC "journalist" should be in prison along with George Floyd's nephew for intimidating the jury.
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Someone gave an order to chase down and doxx and harass the Jury?
He was being chased down by criminals and pedophiles?
Jump-Kick Man is a Criminal Hoodrat that punches Televisions, Revealed as a Woman Beating Career Criminal. Kicked gf in the ribs after knocking her down, the Hoodrat psycho was on bail for that when he kicked Kyle. Rittenhouse is charged with First Degree Recklessly Endangering Safety of Freeland, who was only known as 'jump-kick man'. Joseph Rosenbaum was the first person Rittenhouse shot on the night of August 25, 2020. The 36-year-old had been released from a mental health facility earlier that day and was still carrying the plastic bag of possessions with which he’d been discharged.
Another is a PEDOPHILE !!!
A convicted felon whose criminal history includes pedophilia the court heard that Rosenbaum was aggressive and out for trouble that night.
He ‘got in people’s faces…yelling and screaming,’ shouted ‘Shoot me N****,’ repeatedly and appeared ‘triggered’ by people who put out a flaming dumpster that he was attempting to push onto the street.
At one point in the night, he armed himself with a chain taken from a flat-bed trailer that had also been set on fire. At another he took the T-shirt he was wearing and wrapped it around his face.
Self-professed boogaloo-boi Ryan Balch, who was there that night, testified that Rosenbaum had threatened to ‘kill one of you mother-f*****s if I get you alone,’ within earshot of Rittenhouse.
Video footage appeared to show what witness testimony stated which was that Rosenbaum chased Rittenhouse down and ‘ambushed him.’ He threw his plastic bag at the teen,’ cornering’ him between parked cars before the teen turned and shot as ‘lunged for the muzzle of his gun.’
Rosenbaum was shot four times – one in the pelvis, once in the hand, once to the head in a grazing shot and once in the back as he fell - the so-called ‘kill shot.’
Anthony Huber, the Criminal scumbag who hit Kyle with a Skateboard
26, was the only man of the four who claimed to be a personal friend of Jacob Blake, the black man whose police shooting sparked the BLM protests and nights of riots.
In court the prosecution attempted to paint him ‘the kind of person who would rush into danger’ to protect others. But their efforts were quickly shut down by the defense threat to expose his violent criminal history should they do so.
Huber’s criminal history included arming himself with a butcher’s knife and threatening to ‘gut him like a pig,’ before burning down his family home, ‘with all you f****** in it.’
The jury was not present to hear the alarming details of Huber’s violent outburst that saw him grab his brother by the neck and put a knife to his stomach and ear. On another occasion he kicked his sister in her right hip, causing her pain and to fall.
Instead, they heard brief testimony from his great-aunt Sarah Hughes who spoke only of him in glowing terms and recalled how he carried his skateboard everywhere.
On the night of August 25, 2020, he used that skateboard as a ‘deadly weapon,’ swinging at Rittenhouse’s head with it twice before grabbing for his gun and being shot in the chest at close range.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10217197/Jump-kick-man-filmed
-kicking-Kyle-Rittenhouse-head-revealed.html
Gaige Grosskreutz, 28, ‘sole survivor’ and the state’s ‘star witness,’ was portrayed as a selfless paramedic there that night to provide non-partisan medical aid.
In truth he is a convicted felon and career criminal whose most recent charge – a second time DUI – was dismissed just six days before he took the stand.
Grosskreutz has a laundry list of prior offences, many of them violent. On one occasion he slapped his own grandmother, damaging the drywall in her home by flinging a lamp at it. Among his many offenses he has been convicted of felony burglary, prowling and destruction of property.
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Yup. MSNBC "journalist" should be in prison along with George Floyd's nephew for intimidating the jury.
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/msnbc-banned-rittenhouse-trial-aft
er-employee-allegedly-followed-jurors-home
MSNBC Banned From Rittenhouse Trial After Employee Follows Jury Bus; Network 'Regrets' Incident
They regret NOTHING.
Because they're NEVER held accountable for any of the terrible shit they do on a daily basis.
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Analysis: Here's why Kyle Rittenhouse is likely to be acquitted — and why the law on self-defense must change
by John Gross | Wisconsin Law School
Gross is director of the Public Defender Project at the Wisconsin Law School at UW–Madison.
In the Rittenhouse case, I expect that the jury will not be convinced of his guilt beyond a reasonable doubt in large part because of the way the law defines self-defense.
The issue to be decided in a criminal trial is extremely specific: Did the prosecution prove every element of the offense or offenses charged beyond a reasonable doubt. The jury is only permitted to render one of two verdicts: guilty or not guilty. By finding a defendant not guilty a jury is not saying that the defendant is innocent. Innocent isn’t an option. The jury is not deciding whether someone is morally blameworthy, they are deciding whether a legal standard has been met.
In the current state of the law, Rittenhouse is not barred from claiming the privilege of self-defense because he illegally possessed a firearm. He is also not barred from claiming the privilege of self-defense because he was violating a curfew order. While many people feel that carrying an AR-15 assault rifle in public is dangerous and invites confrontation, Wisconsin is one of many “open carry” states where parading down a public street with a military-style assault rifle is permitted.
If the jury acquits Rittenhouse, then they will be doing what the law requires them to do. That should prompt us to ask why the law dictates this result, and how the law might be changed to discourage people from resorting to deadly force -- and if they do, to hold them more accountable.
We could deny the right to act in self-defense to people who illegally possess a weapon and are in a place where they are not allowed to be. We could also restore the requirement that before someone has the right to use deadly force, they have a duty to retreat. Recently, state legislatures have been doing the opposite, eliminating the duty to retreat by passing “stand your ground” laws.
We could make self-defense an affirmative defense that must be proven by the defense by clear and convincing evidence, not disproven beyond a reasonable doubt by the prosecution. One of the challenges facing prosecutors in the Rittenhouse case is that once the issue of self-defense is raised, the law requires them to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that the defendant did not act in self-defense. It is fair and reasonable to require that the person who felt privileged to use self-defense bear the burden of persuading the jury that they acted in self-defense.
We could make self-defense a complete defense to a charge of homicide only when the threat to the person’s safety is obvious and immanent. The law now permits a person to use deadly force if they reasonably believed it was necessary even if that belief was mistaken. The law also does not require that a person wait until the last second to use deadly force. Police officers who shoot unarmed people of color often rely on this argument to justify their use of deadly force. They never see the barrel of a gun but claim that under all the surrounding circumstances they reasonably believed that someone was armed.
We could prohibit testimony that the defendant feared that the weapon they were carrying could be used against them. This is also a claim that police officers make when they have a physical altercation with someone who is unarmed. It was one of the claims that Kenosha Police Officer Rusten Sheskey made to investigators when attempting to justify his shooting of Jacob Blake. It would also address the fear that is instilled in people when others decide to openly carry assault weapons.
If the jury acquits Rittenhouse, it will not be a mistake. They will have properly applied the law to the facts of the case. If you think a verdict of “not guilty” was the wrong result, your quarrel is not with the jurors who decide the case but with the law as it is written. That law is not set in stone. It is dictate
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Kyle Rittenhouse’s Defense Was Strong. It’s Also a Threat to the Rule of Law.
Rittenhouse’s killing of Rosenbaum may have been lawful. But that was scarcely self-evident to the bystanders who heard gunshots and then saw a killer holding an AR-15. The group of protesters who proceeded to chase and attack Rittenhouse could have reasonably believed that killing the armed teenager was necessary to save others from imminent bodily harm. If Rittenhouse had a right to shoot Huber and Grosskreutz in self-defense, the latter had a similarly legitimate basis for shooting Rittenhouse dead.
Put differently: Once Rittenhouse fired his first shots, he and his attackers plausibly entered a context in which neither could be held legally liable for killing the other. Whether one emerged from this confrontation legally innocent or lawfully executed hinged on little more than one’s relative capacity for rapidly deploying lethal violence. Rittenhouse had a more powerful weapon and a quicker trigger finger than Huber or Grosskreutz. Thus, he may well walk free, in full health, while Huber lies in a grave and Grosskreutz gets by without the bulk of his right bicep.
This outbreak of “Wild West” rule isn’t as anomalous as one might hope. America’s culture of vigilantism, high rate of gun ownership, and increasingly permissive self-defense laws have conspired to turn “kill or be killed” scenarios into a regular occurrence.
The culture that turned the 17-year-old into a revered killer — a culture of mass firearm ownership and vigilantism — is antithetical to law and order as it is conventionally understood. It is a culture premised on the illegitimacy of the state’s monopoly on violence and the incapacity of formal institutions to uphold social order or public safety. It sees America as a society forever teetering on the brink of Hobbesian breakdown (“war of every man against every man,” a constant and violent condition of competition in which each individual has a natural right to everything, regardless of the interests of others) and firearms as the sole guarantor of individual security. And the more influential this culture becomes, the more its paranoid delusions come to resemble our collective reality.
“Legally kill or legally be killed” scenarios are just one of several pathological consequences of America’s lax gun regulations, and permissive police use of force and/or self-defense laws.
More at https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2021/11/rittenhouse-jury-verdict-self-
defense-legal-analysis.html
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
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Jury finds Kyle Rittenhouse not guilty on all charges
https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/582382-jury-finds-kyle-ritten
house-not-guilty-on-all-counts
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The soap opera?
Visibly shaking Kyle Rittenhouse breaks down upon hearing not guilty verdict
https://www.bitchute.com/video/z8WjgGry0_E/
Tulsi Gabbard (D) Hawaii
Jury got it right finding Rittenhouse not guilty
https://rumble.com/vphw1y-jury-got-it-right-finding-rittenhouse-not-gu
ilty.html
BLM protestor suffers mind seizure
https://www.bitchute.com/video/CNlJYVOPQK1X/
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Kyle Rittenhouse’s Defense Was Strong. It’s Also a Threat to the Rule of Law.
Rittenhouse’s killing of Rosenbaum may have been lawful. But that was scarcely self-evident to the bystanders who heard gunshots and then saw a killer holding an AR-15.
Which just goes to show that jumping to mistaken conclusions can lead to Lynch mobs.
Quote:Was he threatening THEM? Or do you like mob rule and unreasonable action?
A group of protesters who proceeded to chase and attack Rittenhouse could have reasonably believed that killing the armed teenager was necessary to save others from imminent bodily harm. If Rittenhouse had a right to shoot Huber and Grosskreutz in self-defense, the latter had a similarly legitimate basis for shooting Rittenhouse dead.
Quote:Somebody fired into the air. That set off the melee. But Rittenhouse was responding to ACTUAL THREAT, the others were operating on apparently mistaken assumptions. That makes Rittenhouse's the more accurate response, and therefore lawful. If the others could point to anACTUAL THREAT, they, too would be lawful.
Put differently: Once Rittenhouse fired his first shots, he and his attackers plausibly entered a context in which neither could be held legally liable for killing the other. Whether one emerged from this confrontation legally innocent or lawfully executed hinged on little more than one’s relative capacity for rapidly deploying lethal violence. Rittenhouse had a more powerful weapon and a quicker trigger finger than Huber or Grosskreutz. Thus, he may well walk free, in full health, while Huber lies in a grave and Grosskreutz gets by without the bulk of his right bicep.
Quote:You just don't like our legal system
This outbreak of “Wild West” rule isn’t as anomalous as one might hope. America’s culture of vigilantism, high rate of gun ownership, and increasingly permissive self-defense laws have conspired to turn “kill or be killed” scenarios into a regular occurrence.
It is what PREVENTS lynch mobs and Wild West mentality, by rewarding reasoned response and (hopefully) punishing unreasoned ones.
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blah blah blah blah
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Quote:I am very pleased with the jury's decision, but I expected it in less than a hour. The jury went off on an unnecessary tangent about reviewing the video. Such a waste of time. The primary thing that counts in the law of self-defense as it was written was whether the defendant "feels" threatened. The law doesn't use that exact formulation, but that is what it boils down to in an American courtroom.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
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The law requires the prosecution to prove the defendant did NOT "feel" threatened. Hard to prove that. If the defendant says he "feels" threatened, the defendant goes free. Sometimes the defendant does not take the oath because they can't convincingly fake for the jury the "feeling" of being threatened, so defense witnesses and experts testify to what the defendant was "feeling". Prosecution can't break down that barrier unless the murderer is instinctively hated by a jury or the prosecution had at least three telepathic psychics at the scene of the murder testify about what the murderer was actually feeling before, during, and after the murder.
In a Civil trial for damages, the murderer's "feelings" count for nothing. If Kyle Rittenhouse is sued for wrongful death, he might lose. That's what happened to O.J. Simpson, who was declared not guilty of murder, but was successfully sued for $33.5 million in damages. O.J. didn't pay much because he moved to another state and declared bankruptcy, but that is just how the legal system habitually malfunctions in America. Rittenhouse has a much weaker Civil case than O.J. because everybody saw Rittenhouse murder his victims but nobody saw O.J. pull the trigger. On the other hand, Rittenhouse has zero assets to be seized, other than the AR-15. Win or lose, Rittenhouse won't pay much. His lawyers will certainly prosper if Trumptards raise the money for his defense in Civil court.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/O._J._Simpson_murder_case#Civil_trial
How often does a self-defense case end with guilty verdict?
https://www.google.com/search?q=how+often+does+a+self-defense+case+end
+with+guilty+verdict%3F
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I am very pleased with the jury's decision
Bullshit.
Dozens of your ignorant posts in this thread say otherwise.
Second spent all day long crying today.
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SEPTEMBER 4TH, 2020:
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Kyle ain't even getting a slap on the wrist for this.
That's fair warning to any other would-be murderers out there.
You get what you fucking deserve.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
Now he gets to sue everybody all the way up to Fuck Joe Biden for slandering his name.
Cast a wide net, Kyle.
Maybe you and Sandmann can come to an agreement and share custody of CNN and MSNBC.
P.S....
JANUARY 6TH, 2021:
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Kyle ain't even getting a slap on the wrist for this.
Another prediction?
He's on trial btw
ALSO, JANUARY 6TH, 2021:
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Yup. A lot of innocent people get put on trial.
Are you insinuating that he's guilty because he's on trial?
I certainly hope not.
He'll be fine.
To which, of course, I got no reply.
Here's your I Told You So from the bag.
They're free, but you're welcome to get on your knees now and blow me too.
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And Justice prevails:
https://nypost.com/2021/11/19/kyle-rittenhouse-acquitted-of-all-charge
s-in-kenosha-shooting/
There were some details that I had forgotten, or learned.
Criminal pedophile serial boy rapist Rosenbaum announced that he would kill Kyle because Rosenbaum had set a trash dumpster on fire, and was wheeling it to the police vehicles to set the police on fire, and then Kyle used his fire extinguisher to put out the fire in the dumpster. This incensed Rosenbaum that his arson was extinguished, and he announced he was going to kill Kyle.
Rosenbaum was not scared off by being shot, so he was shot 4 times.
One of the attackers that Kyle shot at (but missed) was known as jump-kick-man, who kicked Kyle in the head. This was violent criminal Maurice Freeland, which Prosecutors kept hidden until the end of the trial.
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Yeah. Just hope those jurors got some good security.
The Lunatic Left is out to get them.
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Quote:Also, Rosenbaum was shot 4 times, not getting the hint after being shot once or twice.
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:Quote:I think the word choice was incorrect. I corrected it above.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:Quote:That's why you're a stupid and ignorant bitch.
Originally posted by 1KIKI:
Not going to click on any of your Jack's links because ... you.
I didn't make the video. That unedited video has been around since the very day of the incident.
Good luck finding it on YouTube anymore where the Leftist Activists ban anyone who doesn'tfollowconform to the narrative. It's not being removed from Bitchute though.
Also, and aside, the total time elapsed from Ziminski firing behind Kyle, then shooting of attacker Rosenbaum, then firing at but not hitting another attacker,then getting bashed in the head with a skateboard by Huber and shooting him, and then firing at and missing another attacker, then Grosskreutz aiming his illegal handgun at Kyle and Kyle shooting him, was all of 16 seconds.
This totals at least 9 shots within the same 16 seconds. That is how long it takes for the mob of Libtard arsonist rioters to get a clue and step back.
Clearly, he was merely responding to the murderous mob attacking him, not thinking about how many he could kill.
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Wow! Look what happened while I was out of town!
Cool. The jury got a lot of evidence, and the jury decided. That's all I was hoping for.
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Quote:I got this far into your post to know that you're
SIGNYM:
And cue SECOND's defense of the rioters that will follow in 3... 2 ... 1...
SECOND: I am very pleased with the jury's decision
a) lying your ass of, and
b) changing the topic. You WILL defend any rioters who disagree with the jury's decision. Also, anyone who doxxes or threatens the jury members or the judge. That's how much you LOVE America!
Oh, yeah, and you can get on your knees and blow SIX.
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Democratic President Joe Biden, who has been critical of Rittenhouse and of armed vigilantes patrolling communities, said the decision must be respected.
“I stand by what the jury has concluded,” Biden told reporters. “The jury system works, and we have to abide by it.”
Meanwhile . . .
Gov. Greg Abbott celebrates Kyle Rittenhouse acquittal: ‘NOT GUILTY!’
“This verdict reiterates that every American has the God-given right to self-defense and the protections of the Second Amendment,” Republican U.S. Sen. Ted Cruz of Texas said in a statement.
U.S. Rep. Chip Roy and Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton were among those who also welcomed the ruling.
In private, Texas Trumptards were giddy that now they can call it self-defense when they kill the hated and evil Libtards who are cancer and turning Texas into a Communist land. Also privately, Trump is their President and Biden* stole the election.
https://www.houstonchronicle.com/politics/texas/article/Gov-Greg-Abbot
t-celebrates-Rittenhouse-16635488.php
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Originally posted by second:
Democratic President Joe Biden, who has been critical of Rittenhouse and of armed vigilantes patrolling communities, said the decision must be respected.
“I stand by what the jury has concluded,” Biden told reporters. “The jury system works, and we have to abide by it.”
THEN:
Pictured: Half-Mexican "white" supremacist.
Save it, Joe*. You don't get to pretend to be the responsible one now.
Kyle's going to sue your ass off.
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We're really headed to an extremely dark place, where this is the mainstream GOP view of the Libs. To be honest, I think we're already there:
Kurt Schlichter @KurtSchlichter
Your pain delights me. Kyle Rittenhouse killed two leftist catspaws and bisected the bicep of another and there’s nothing you can do about it.
Mehdi Hasan @mehdirhasan
It is difficult to express in words, or even via stats, how messed up the U.S. ‘justice’ system is, & how riddled with double standards it is.
Does anyone - even the most conservative person - really believe a black man or a Muslim like me would have been acquitted, too?
8:55 PM · Nov 19, 2021·Twitter Web App
https://twitter.com/Wilson__Valdez/status/1461890922178879492
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That was stupid
everything in this incident was stupid
everyone in this incident was stupid
the jury and judge and the rest of it also stupid
don't reward the triggerhappy moron with the AR15
the convected child molestor throwing laundry at him not a hero
the stoner with the skateboard also not briliiant
skateboard no match for AR15
The rapist they're protesting over not brilliant either
the burglar qho pointed a gun at the "active shooter" to disarm him
that's not how to stop an active shooter
kyle stopped him as a shooter correctly
but this was the dumbest story I have read in a while
I avoid these when I can.
I've been in bed for over a month so I haven't been around
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That was stupid
everything in this incident was stupid
everyone in this incident was stupid
the jury and judge and the rest of it also stupid
don't reward the triggerhappy moron with the AR15
the convected child molestor throwing laundry at him not a hero
the stoner with the skateboard also not briliiant
skateboard no match for AR15
The rapist they're protesting over not brilliant either
the burglar qho pointed a gun at the "active shooter" to disarm him
that's not how to stop an active shooter
kyle stopped him as a shooter correctly
but this was the dumbest story I have read in a while
I avoid these when I can.
I've been in bed for over a month so I haven't been around
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:Quote:I got this far into your post to know that you're
SIGNYM:
And cue SECOND's defense of the rioters that will follow in 3... 2 ... 1...
SECOND: I am very pleased with the jury's decision
a) lying your ass of, and
b) changing the topic. You WILL defend any rioters who disagree with the jury's decision. Also, anyone who doxxes or threatens the jury members or the judge. That's how much you LOVE America!
Oh, yeah, and you can get on your knees and blow SIX.
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/rittenhouse-acquitted-all-charges
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Portland Rittenhouse Protest Escalates Into Riot
by Tyler Durden
Saturday, Nov 20, 2021 - 07:15 AM
Update (Saturday 0715 ET): The reports turned out to be correct. Protests were seen in multiple cities, and a riot was declared in Portland, Oregon, hours after Kyle Rittenhouse’s acquittal.
Protests were observed in downtown Brooklyn, New York; Boston, Massachusetts; Chicago, Illinois; and Portland, Oregon. Focusing on Portland, a riot was declared at 9 p.m. local (or 2400 ET) after hundreds of demonstrators unleashed their liberal rage by smashing windows and hurling objects at police.
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ISLAM IS A RELIGION OF SHIT
and had nothing to do with this trail
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Originally posted by second:
Kyle Rittenhouse killed two leftist catspaws
One of them he killed was a pedophile
is it your dream to defend pedophiles or something?
One of the Men Killed by Kyle Rittenhouse just got out of the Psyche Mental Hospital, he was a Convicted Pedophile, Who Used N-Word and Provoked People to ‘Shoot Me’ ... he the pedophile was chasing down a kid and finally got shot by that kid. Rosenbaum was a registered sex offender for a sex crime involving a minor.
The survivor of Rittenhouse self defense shootings, that guy with a chunk of his arm blown off AFTER he pulled a gun on the kid also has criminal past, probably goes around half drunk and drugged out of his mind was charged with smashing the bedroom window at an ex-girlfriend’s home at 4 a.m. with the woman claiming he had been harassing her on the phone, charged with prowling and stalking police, Grosskreutz was arrested and charged with hitting his grandmother in the face during a dispute, another year, was hit with a felony burglary charge
The other guy Huber was already under arrest for attacking women for domestic violence, “Use of Dangerous Weapon,” “Strangulation & Suffocation,” “False Imprisonment,”
Pedophiles and Criminals Attacking a Kid who won the fight
the Leftists perhaps not sending their best?
and...
What the fuck is it with people coming in to threads to suck to dick off jihadi islamo propaganda pushers
Why do people insist on taking it up the ass from mohammedan islamics?
That's not to say all muslims are terrorists, some muslims as individual people have good qualities despite having such a shit religion
but some people insist on making this a racial, worship, political and religion and ethnic issue...so cool
Let's go there
You get a rich dude like O.J its a scene where a person basically gets away with murdering a Jew 'Ronald Lyle Goldman' and a Blonde Caucasian woman ...why because its the Media Circus and MONEY...not Race
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Originally posted by second:
or a Muslim like me would have been acquitted, too?
Why do you expect us to click on such a shit link?
Are you also a Muslim or Anarchist Commie Marxist or something, maybe your just one of those fucked up Antifa Lennist Afro centric Marxists or something?
oh... POOR FUCKING ISLAM....feel sorry for the poor 1400 yr old pedophile terrorist that jihadists pray to and Feel soory for a shit book, the shit jihadi literature that islamists worship, feel sorry for their shit terrorist pedo prophet called Moohammad, they say
POOR POOR FUCKING ISLAMIC ...BOO FUCKING WOO CRY cry
Dozens of Innocent Black African Americans get gunned down EVERY FUCKING Weekend by HOODRAT Negroid Gangbangers
Hundreds and Thousands of Black Africans are openly sold as slaves in Markets in Libya
The jihadi islamics are going on a rampage of murder, rape, shootings and bombings this month across Arabia, they are killing Hindu on the Indian sub continent, in Europe, in N.Africa in Asia killing and murdering Buddhists, they are killing in France, killing Black African Christians in Nigeria, in genociding ethnic races in Syria, in Uganda, in England, in Afghanistan, in Thailand, in Egypt, they carry out mass slaughter and massaceres in Burkina Faso, they might even be a few crossing the US Southern Border inside groups of other illegals
but an American guy 'Kyle' you hate, a guy the media programmed you to hate,
this guy is 'not guility' allowed walk free
So you think -
Let's stop the entire planet from turning, let's stop everything from moving
and make this about poor poor islams
but let's stay silent about all the crimes, about all the hundreds of thousands of Americans dying by drugs
all the other crimes and real deaths and real murders in this world
and let's not miss a propaganda opportunity to bash America and promote more shit islamist bullshit religion and S
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BTW, in the attempted murder case I was on that resulted in an acquittal, the defendant was a convicted gun-thief, suburban, black, gang-banger wanna-be.
But he didn't throw the first punch, and he quit beating the legal-gun-owner, suburban, white, military wanna-be guy when the white guy stopped swinging at him.
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Anyway, the most egregious 'self-defense' defense I can think of was when the hefty, gun-toting George Zimmerman got to stalk and threaten an unarmed black youth, then shoot him in 'self defense'.
And in the current Ahmaud Arbery trial, we're to believe that 3 armed white men felt so threatened by a single unarmed black man they had stalked and threatened, that they had a reason to shoot him in 'self-defense'.
Something is very wrong with the self-defense laws when one can get defenses like that.
In the Rittenhouse case, the judge was so befuddled by the law, he could offer no instructions, so the jury was on its own.
I have no issue with whatever decisions the juries render. But there clearly is something wrong with particular self-defense laws as written. It seems it should be possible to write laws with clarity (unlike the Rittenhouse case), that clearly distinguish between aggressor and defender (unlike the Zimmerman case, and possibly the Arbery case).
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double post.
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Originally posted by JAYNEZTOWN:
ISLAM IS A RELIGION OF SHIT
and had nothing to do with this trailQuote:
Originally posted by second:
Kyle Rittenhouse killed two leftist catspaws
One of them he killed was a pedophile
is it your dream to defend pedophiles or something?
One of the Men Killed by Kyle Rittenhouse just got out of the Psyche Mental Hospital, he was a Convicted Pedophile, Who Used N-Word and Provoked People to ‘Shoot Me’ ... he the pedophile was chasing down a kid and finally got shot by that kid. Rosenbaum was a registered sex offender for a sex crime involving a minor.
The survivor of Rittenhouse self defense shootings, that guy with a chunk of his arm blown off AFTER he pulled a gun on the kid also has criminal past, probably goes around half drunk and drugged out of his mind was charged with smashing the bedroom window at an ex-girlfriend’s home at 4 a.m. with the woman claiming he had been harassing her on the phone, charged with prowling and stalking police, Grosskreutz was arrested and charged with hitting his grandmother in the face during a dispute, another year, was hit with a felony burglary charge
The other guy Huber was already under arrest for attacking women for domestic violence, “Use of Dangerous Weapon,” “Strangulation & Suffocation,” “False Imprisonment,”
Pedophiles and Criminals Attacking a Kid who won the fight
the Leftists perhaps not sending their best?
and...
What the fuck is it with people coming in to threads to suck to dick off jihadi islamo propaganda pushers
Why do people insist on taking it up the ass from mohammedan islamics?
That's not to say all muslims are terrorists, some muslims as individual people have good qualities despite having such a shit religion
but some people insist on making this a racial, worship, political and religion and ethnic issue...so cool
Let's go there
You get a rich dude like O.J its a scene where a person basically gets away with murdering a Jew 'Ronald Lyle Goldman' and a Blonde Caucasian woman ...why because its the Media Circus and MONEY...not RaceQuote:
Originally posted by second:
or a Muslim like me would have been acquitted, too?
Why do you expect us to click on such a shit link?
Are you also a Muslim or Anarchist Commie Marxist or something, maybe your just one of those fucked up Antifa Lennist Afro centric Marxists or something?
oh... POOR FUCKING ISLAM....feel sorry for the poor 1400 yr old pedophile terrorist that jihadists pray to and Feel soory for a shit book, the shit jihadi literature that islamists worship, feel sorry for their shit terrorist pedo prophet called Moohammad, they say
POOR POOR FUCKING ISLAMIC ...BOO FUCKING WOO CRY cry
Dozens of Innocent Black African Americans get gunned down EVERY FUCKING Weekend by HOODRAT Negroid Gangbangers
Hundreds and Thousands of Black Africans are openly sold as slaves in Markets in Libya
The jihadi islamics are going on a rampage of murder, rape, shootings and bombings this month across Arabia, they are killing Hindu on the Indian sub continent, in Europe, in N.Africa in Asia killing and murdering Buddhists, they are killing in France, killing Black African Christians in Nigeria, in genociding ethnic races in Syria, in Uganda, in England, in Afghanistan, in Thailand, in Egypt, they carry out mass slaughter and massaceres in Burkina Faso, they might even be a few crossing the US Southern Border inside groups of other illegals
but an American guy 'Kyle' you hate, a guy the media programmed you to hate,
this guy is 'not guility' allowed walk free
So you think -
Let's stop the entire planet from turning, let's stop everything from moving
and make this about poor poor islams
but let's stay silent about all the crimes, about all the hundreds of thousands of Americans dying by drugs
all the other crimes and real deaths and real murders in this world
and let's not miss a propaganda opportunity to bas
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Quote:Folk seem to keep forgetting that he was working as a Security Guard that night. He was merely acting as a First Responder when he repeatedly provided First Aid to the injured, and escorting them to the EMTs, as well as using his Fire Extinguisher to extinguisherthe fires that the criminal arsonist rioters were setting.
Originally posted by JAYNEZTOWN:
ISLAM IS A RELIGION OF SHIT
and had nothing to do with this trailQuote:One of them he killed was a pedophile
Originally posted by second:
Kyle Rittenhouse killed two leftist catspaws
is it your dream to defend pedophiles or something?
One of the Men Killed by Kyle Rittenhouse just got out of the Psyche Mental Hospital, he was a Convicted Pedophile, Who Used N-Word and Provoked People to ‘Shoot Me’ ... he the pedophile was chasing down a kid and finally got shot by that kid. Rosenbaum was a registered sex offender for a sex crime involving a minor.
The survivor of Rittenhouse self defense shootings, that guy with a chunk of his arm blown off AFTER he pulled a gun on the kid also has criminal past, probably goes around half drunk and drugged out of his mind was charged with smashing the bedroom window at an ex-girlfriend’s home at 4 a.m. with the woman claiming he had been harassing her on the phone, charged with prowling and stalking police, Grosskreutz was arrested and charged with hitting his grandmother in the face during a dispute, another year, was hit with a felony burglary charge
The other guy Huber was already under arrest for attacking women for domestic violence, “Use of Dangerous Weapon,” “Strangulation & Suffocation,” “False Imprisonment,”
Pedophiles and Criminals Attacking a Kid who won the fight
the Leftists perhaps not sending their best?
and...
What the fuck is it with people coming in to threads to suck to dick off jihadi islamo propaganda pushers
Why do people insist on taking it up the ass from mohammedan islamics?
That's not to say all muslims are terrorists, some muslims as individual people have good qualities despite having such a shit religion
but some people insist on making this a racial, worship, political and religion and ethnic issue...so cool
Let's go there
You get a rich dude like O.J its a scene where a person basically gets away with murdering a Jew 'Ronald Lyle Goldman' and a Blonde Caucasian woman ...why because its the Media Circus and MONEY...not Race
Anyways back on Topic it seems Tucker made a Documentary on Kyle
https://uk.news.yahoo.com/threw-them-room-several-times-074749943.html
'I threw them out of the room several times': Kyle Rittenhouse's attorney says he didn't approve of Tucker Carlson film crew
Tucker Carlson at Fox says he's going to air the interview with Kyle Rittenhouse
the media madness continues....
Kyle Rittenhouse: verdict exposes divide that ‘angry’ Biden fails to heal
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/5c4b7302-4a23-11ec-9b62-734d2c1aba5
2?shareToken=0e1aedc27f4ec635b43134eaf708046a
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White supremacist, vigilante, gun nut, all-American hero, a boy trying to protect businesses as police stepped back?
I hear the Rittenhouse interview with Tucker will be on the Manday show.
Also, I keep forgetting to mention that the verdict was rendered on Friday, yesterday. Just in time for Deer Hunting Season in Wisconsin, which started on Saturday. One might wonder if this has any affect on all of the riots about the verdict happening in cityslicker sites, not in WI while everybody with a rifle or bow is roaming around.
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Quote:Just how confused are you?
Originally posted by 1KIKI:
Anyway, the most egregious 'self-defense' defense I can think of was when the hefty, gun-toting George Zimmerman got to stalk and threaten an unarmed black youth, then shoot him in 'self defense'.
"hefty" Zimmerman, with his injuries of his head smashed into the pavement, was age 28, all of 5' 6" and 185 lbs - mostly lard at that point, was a Neighborhood Watch, working with Police to deter the criminals from perpetrating in his hood. I personally have not been down to 195 since I was 21 - until my first Covid.
And your tiny little helpless drug addict, thief, burglar, vandal, violent thug Trayvon Martin, age 17, 6' and 160 lbs trying to kill Zimmerman by smashing his head into the pavement, which all of the witnesses agreed and admitted to (but outside the prosecutor's blackmail directives to lie). Being high on pot, having had somebody buy cigars for him, and carrying the ingredients for drug cocktail "Lean", he only took 40 minutes to walk the 10 minutes from 7-11 - and then 10 minutes after he was next to the house where his dad was, he backtracked to hunt down Zimmerman and beat him.
Not that your FACTS Vaccine has worn off enough for you to wake up, but:
https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2012/06/what_the_media_choose
_not_to_know_about_trayvon.html
When I was 17 and 160 pounds I was benching 350, doing 44 chin-ups in a set, 130 pushups every other day, 75 dips in a set, 240 dips in a day. That hulking thug had a lot of strength and power. And he practiced Fight Club style street fighting.
I guess you just would have only been happy when Trayvon completed his murder of Zimmerman, and then anonymously slipped away in the night.
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Something is very wrong with the self-defense laws when one can get defenses like that.
In the Rittenhouse case, the judge was so befuddled by the law, he could offer no instructions, so the jury was on its own.
I have no issue with whatever decisions the juries render. But there clearly is something wrong with particular self-defense laws as written. It seems it should be possible to write laws with clarity (unlike the Rittenhouse case), that clearly distinguish between aggressor and defender (unlike the Zimmerman case, and possibly the Arbery case).
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You're just as ignorant of the effects of marijuana as Kiki is about Covid.
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Quote:Jayneztown, were you foaming-at-the-mouth mad?
Originally posted by JAYNEZTOWN:
ISLAM IS A RELIGION OF SHIT
and had nothing to do with this trail
Why do you expect us to click on such a shit link?
Are you also a Muslim or Anarchist Commie Marxist or something, maybe your just one of those fucked up Antifa Lennist Afro centric Marxists or something?
oh... POOR FUCKING ISLAM....feel sorry for the poor 1400 yr old pedophile terrorist that jihadists pray to and Feel soory for a shit book, the shit jihadi literature that islamists worship, feel sorry for their shit terrorist pedo prophet called Moohammad, they say
POOR POOR FUCKING ISLAMIC ...BOO FUCKING WOO CRY cry
Dozens of Innocent Black African Americans get gunned down EVERY FUCKING Weekend by HOODRAT Negroid Gangbangers
Hundreds and Thousands of Black Africans are openly sold as slaves in Markets in Libya
The jihadi islamics are going on a rampage of murder, rape, shootings and bombings this month across Arabia, they are killing Hindu on the Indian sub continent, in Europe, in N.Africa in Asia killing and murdering Buddhists, they are killing in France, killing Black African Christians in Nigeria, in genociding ethnic races in Syria, in Uganda, in England, in Afghanistan, in Thailand, in Egypt, they carry out mass slaughter and massaceres in Burkina Faso, they might even be a few crossing the US Southern Border inside groups of other illegals
but an American guy 'Kyle' you hate, a guy the media programmed you to hate,
this guy is 'not guility' allowed walk free
So you think -
Let's stop the entire planet from turning, let's stop everything from moving
and make this about poor poor islams
but let's stay silent about all the crimes, about all the hundreds of thousands of Americans dying by drugs
all the other crimes and real deaths and real murders in this world
and let's not miss a propaganda opportunity to bash America and promote more shit islamist bullshit religion and Sharia Law Jihadi propaganda
No YOU and ONLY YOU ARE HEADED TO AN EXTREMELY DARK PLACE ...
have you started going to those mosques, maybe its the Antifa Karl Marx crap you read, or have you started putting the jihadi rags on top of your head? Have gone full mohammedan retard yet?
Trump’s "stop the steal" lawyer Lin Wood, who once represented Kyle Rittenhouse, is threatening to sue the Rittenhouse's current attorney after he called Wood an "idiot" on CNN on Friday night.
https://www.rawstory.com/lin-wood-2655769596/
Two stories from Wisconsin:
Chrystul Kizer—17-yr-old Black girl in Wisconsin who killed the man raping & trafficking her
• Convicted & case is now in Appeals
Kyle Rittenhouse—17-yr-old white boy in Wisconsin who took an AR-15 to a protest & killed 2
• Acquitted
The system isn't broken—it was built this way
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
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America is a great country when the self-defense argument works for a black man in Florida, even when shooting at cops:
On the same day as Rittenhouse was declared not guilty, Andrew Coffee IV found not guilty of murder, attempted murder in Indian River County SWAT raid
Alteria Woods, 21, died during exchange of gunfire
https://www.wptv.com/news/region-indian-river-county/andrew-coffee-iv-
found-not-guilty-on-5-counts-in-indian-river-county-swat-raid
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
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We have all followed this story since August 2020 ... it has almost come to its conclusion
Unfortunately it got very political, it was election season and the truth was almost lost.
Wisconsin's court system has four levels: municipal courts, circuit courts, the Court of Appeals, and the Supreme Court. During the Civil War, Wisconsin was a Republican state; in fact it is the state that gave birth to the Republican Party.
In another seperate case the United States v. Skoien, 587 F.3 d 803 (7th Cir. 2009 ) – Steven Skoien, a Wisconsin man convicted of two misdemeanor domestic violence convictions, appealed his conviction based on the argument that the prohibition violated the individual rights to bear arms, as described in Heller. After initial favorable rulings in lower court based on a standard of intermediate scrutiny, on July 13, 2010, the Seventh Circuit, sitting en banc, ruled 10–1 against Skoien and reinstated his conviction for a gun violation, citing the strong relation between the law in question and the government objective.
Skoien was convicted and sentenced to two years in prison for the gun violation, and will thus likely be subject to a lifetime ban on gun ownership. Editorials favoring gun rights sharply criticized this ruling as going too far with the enactment of a lifetime gun ban, while editorials favoring gun regulations praised the ruling as "a bucket of cold water thrown on the 'gun rights' celebration"
since people here have discessed the Right to Firearms to have a Militia or to Bear Arms
Let's have a look at a quote on the 2nd Amendment
The Second Amendment, as passed by the House and Senate and later ratified by the States, reads:
A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the People to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.
The hand-written copy of the Bill of Rights which hangs in the National Archives had slightly different capitalization and punctuation inserted by William Lambert, the scribe who prepared it. This copy reads:
A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.
Both versions are commonly used by "official" U.S. government publications.
Quote:
Originally posted by second:
Trump’s "stop the steal" lawyer Lin Wood, who once represented Kyle Rittenhouse, is threatening to sue the Rittenhouse's current attorney after he called Wood an "idiot" on CNN on Friday night.
You must of the memory of a fucking goldfish or something but I told you before many, many, many times I don't vote for Trump, I'm not American, I don't really give a shit either way who gets elected, its a country for the American people, its not my country, its a place where US citziens and the American people vote and I have nothing to do with its voting.
I will admit this one I got interested in because I watched the news breaking as it went viral and the Gun Debate and Legal system is of slight interest to me just for the sake of debate and firearms rights and right to defend.
I do follow American News because if the US economy goes into the shitter typically the rest of the Western world also starts to suffer
...but
Tell me have You Read ANYTHING any single thing about islam.
Have you read any of the pages in their islamo books
All of it is translated you know into English, Japanese, Spanish and many other languages so even an ignorant less educated idiot who has the ability to read and write can pick up one of their shit islamist books or you can even download a translation for free and understand what islam is and who mahomet the founder of islamism really was.
If You had read any fucking thing about islam at all, I wonder if you would be so quick to defend it.
Or maybe you are so fucked up you will twist and turn words and politics and make it seem like jihadis, and moslems and terrorists a
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JSF, you seem to forget that unlike Ritternhouse - or you - I've been an actual licensed professional first responder, an EMT.
So let me ask you - was Rittenhouse deputized to be 'security'? Licensed? Hired? Registered with the police? Anything? Was he a real first responder? Police? Fire? EMT/ Paramedic? (A first responder is a person with specialized training who is among the first to arrive and provide assistance at the scene of an emergency, such as an accident, natural disaster, or terrorism. First responders typically include law enforcement officers, paramedics, EMT's and firefighters.)
Or was he a self-important busy-body, self-assigned and self-promoted?
As for Trayvon Martin, you seem to forget he was unarmed and was STALKED AND CONFRONTED by a man with a gun. Where was Martin's right to self-defense? To stand HIS ground?
You are one seriously confused dood.
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Quote:Life is short. Make sure you spend as much time as possible on the Internet arguing with strangers about politics.
Originally posted by JAYNEZTOWN:
I'm not American, I don't really give a shit either way who gets elected, its a country for the American people, its not my country, its a place where US citizens and the American people vote and I have nothing to do with its voting.
I will admit this one I got interested in because I watched the news breaking as it went viral and the Gun Debate and Legal system is of slight interest to me just for the sake of debate and firearms rights and right to defend.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
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Fireflyfans user Second bashed the Kyle verdict
and like other threads and said this was an attack on islam
Second still while defending islamism, won't tell me if a single page of the Koran or Koran has been read
has Second read just even one single translated page of that shit islamist jihadi book that Second wants to Defend?
Some people with their own tiwsted wraped sick minds think Kyle is somehow oppressing, keep down people like ... bin Laden? some islamo preacher? they are opressing mosques? the San Bernardino terrorist Tashfeen Malik? the ayatollah khomeini?
for some odd reason some person here in fireflyfans community thinks the Kyle judgement is an attack on isalm or some shit?
Quote:
Originally posted by second:
Make sure you spend as much time as possible on the Internet arguing with strangers about politics.
I'm not not here to argue I just want Facts, historical Fact and not the clownshow of Politics
The internet is an opportunity to always learn
Tell me some truth
Why The Fuck have you come into this thread to defend islam???
If you know little of islam or refuse to tell me if you have read anything on islam then let's read out some of their islamism...?
Let me quote some FACTUAL pages from their books then...
I will give you information on islam from their own books, you can confirm this info historically, scientifically...you can read and photocopy their books go on a quest to study their languages, confirm it through literature, you can watch online videos of islamic quotes and check these translated quotes by your own self
You can download free PDFs and E-book and confirm this info to be true or false yourself.
Tell me a Fact about your reading, have you read any books during your life???
Do you read much
Have people read Mao's little red book?
Did they read the Bible?
I assume people are aware of Karl Marx and they are aware there are books or writing called the Communist Manifesto or Das Kapital or aware that Hitler wrote a book called Mein Kampf ...but have people read any islamic words
Have you ONE SINGLE PAGE of their islamist books, have you even read a paragraph, did you read anything, any pages, anything at all from hadith, Al-Bukhari, sunnah, the shiite and sunni books, Ishaq Sirat Rasul, al-Tabari, the writings of the Quran or Koran and Mohammedanism
I will for now take your refusal to answer my question as an admission of your ignorance
So let me give you some quotes
In the future if you remember these quotes and in the future you will no longer sound so stupid and ignorant when talking about jihadists or 'islam'
HATRED and TERROR in islam
Quran You can go to section page 2:216
“Fighting has been enjoined upon you jihadists islamists while it is hateful to you. But perhaps you hate a thing and it is good for you islamists jihaidsts; and perhaps you love a thing and it is bad for you. And the Demon Moongod Al Lah Knows, while you know not.”
Here is another Terroristic quote from islam
Koran or Quran go to page section 8:67 - "
It is not for a Prophet that he should have prisoners of war until he had made a great slaughter in the land...
"
Fighting and Killing inside one's own tribe, race and family
Quran or Koran 18:65-81
A parable condoning “honor killings”. This demonic Moongod jihadi parable encourages the murdering of family members who bring shame or dishonor to their family.
Killing and Toture of old women in islam
They capture a woman and tie her to camels and then ripped her body apart
Some will say they ripped her arms and legs off, her split her legs open and tear her in half and others just say she was killed in a cruel way
Let me quote so you get the message from these islamic books.
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Originally posted by second:
Life is short. Make sure you spend as much time as possible on the Internet arguing with strangers about politics.
When taking the source of this comment into context, this is the funniest fucking thing I've heard all year.
Thanks for all the laughs over the years, moron.
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Originally posted by 1KIKI:
Or was he a self-important busy-body, self-assigned and self-promoted?
Quote:I wasn't disputing the verdict. I was disputing JSF's claim that Rittenhouse had a right to go running around armed because he - Rittenhouse - was a 'first responder'. That's all I was pointing out. It had nothing to do with the verdict.
Originally posted by JAYNEZTOWN:
Like I said from the very first post of this thread 'what the fuck was that kid doing'
but the legal trial wasn't about if the kid was doing something dumb, was he a bit stupid and young, was he unwise
or did he have the right to defend himself?
...it not about being totally innocent of stupidity
its that he was found 'Not Guilty' that's what the final outcome of the trial was
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He didn't?
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https://www.newsweek.com/you-win-arm-all-angry-young-men-scared-ones-t
oo-opinion-1651643
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You Win. Arm All the Angry Young Men—and the Scared Ones, Too
You're goddamned right I win.
It's the brothers in the Democrat ran shitholes that own all the illegal guns and account for a vast majority of the murder by guns.
You're afraid of white men now, after pretending that you're tougher than we are all these years?
Good.
Maybe you'll start acting a little more polite, now that we understand each other.
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Quote:I was specifically responding to JSF's claim that Rittenhouse had a right to be out there doing what he was doing because he, Rittenhouse, was some kind of 'first responder' - which he definitely wasn't. And in general, Rittenhouse had as much right to be out there, armed or not, as anybody ... considering there was an 8PM curfew, that means, not much.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
He didn't?
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Quote:Jayneztown, your brain is overheating and is emitting huge quantities of smoke, sparks and flames.
Originally posted by JAYNEZTOWN:
Fireflyfans user Second bashed the Kyle verdict
and like other threads and said this was an attack on islam
Second still while defending islamism, won't tell me if a single page of the Koran or Koran has been read
has Second read just even one single translated page of that shit islamist jihadi book that Second wants to Defend?
Some people with their own tiwsted wraped sick minds think Kyle is somehow oppressing, keep down people like ... bin Laden? some islamo preacher? they are opressing mosques? the San Bernardino terrorist Tashfeen Malik? the ayatollah khomeini?
for some odd reason some person here in fireflyfans community thinks the Kyle judgement is an attack on isalm or some shit? . . . .
Much more, etc., etc.
You are not tweeting, but many tweeters are foreigners promoting false information and stoking divisions in America:
Pro-Rittenhouse tweets came largely from Russia, China and the EU: ex-FBI official
https://www.rawstory.com/kyle-rittenhouse-support-tweets-international/
Barb McQuade @BarbMcQuade
So much of the anger on social media is fueled by foreign adversaries, promoting false information and stoking divisions. We need to educate the American public to build our resilience.
Frank Figliuzzi @FrankFigliuzzi1
Divide & conquer: A sample of 32,315 pro-Rittenhouse hashtag tweets, Nov 19-20, showed 29,609 with disabled geolocation. Of those, 17,701 were listed as “foreign”, but a deep scrub revealed most of those were in Russia, China, and the EU. @Tara_Writer @TAPSTRIMEDIA #Rittenhouse
3:22 PM · Nov 21, 2021·Twitter for iPhone
https://twitter.com/BarbMcQuade/status/1462532013550977030
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
And cue SECOND's defense of the rioters that will follow in 3... 2 ... 1...
Second LOVES what happened now. He would have driven the van if he could.
(Make sure to watch the video before Communist Susan Wojcicki removes it).
Little to no rioting going on while 500 national guard were stationed, but they wait until people go back to sleep and then mow down 20+ people, including the elderly and over a dozen kids in a van at a Christmas parade.
If the Legacy Media, celebrities and politicians don't shut the fuck up immediately and stop feeding the flames of racial tension, this is only going to continue to get worse as wackjobs on the fringes on both sides continue to try to one-up each other.
Watch your backs out there. Grow a third eye in the back of your head if possible.
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Originally posted by 1KIKI:Quote:I was specifically responding to JSF's claim that Rittenhouse had a right to be out there doing what he was doing because he, Rittenhouse, was some kind of 'first responder' - which he definitely wasn't. And in general, Rittenhouse had as much right to be out there, armed or not, as anybody ... considering there was an 8PM curfew, that means, not much.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
He didn't?
The only people allowed to be at an arsonfest riot after curfew are the arsonist rioters *COUGH* *COUGH*, I mean the peaceful protestors.
Got it.
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Don't care to chime in on this one anymore, Second?
You stupid race-baiting fuck.
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
He didn't?
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Originally posted by 1KIKI:
I was specifically responding to JSF's claim that Rittenhouse had a right to be out there doing what he was doing because he, Rittenhouse, was some kind of 'first responder' - which he definitely wasn't. And in general, Rittenhouse had as much right to be out there, armed or not, AS ANYBODY ... considering there was an 8PM curfew, that means, not much.
Quote:Did ** I ** make ANY exception for ANYBODY? No, I didn't. I posted about anybody, everybody, without exception.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
The only people allowed to be at an arsonfest riot after curfew are the arsonist rioters *COUGH* *COUGH*, I mean the peaceful protestors.
Got it.
So why are you implying that I did?
You've become a second SECOND. All you do is lie, and troll. But just like all of the other bullshit you've posted for years, saying something a million times doesn't make it true.
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Seriously, SIX, when you have to lie about what ppl posted, that's stooping pretty low.
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Rittenhouse and the Right’s Strategy of Deputizing Vigilantes
The government can’t trample on protesters’ First Amendment rights, but armed vigilantes can do it for them.
The freedom of assembly is guaranteed by the First Amendment, which prevents discrimination on the basis of viewpoint. So, despite what repeated instances of police violence against protestors might suggest, the police cannot punish protestors for protesting police killings. But what if police stand by while private so-called militias attack and intimidate protestors, forcing them to flee and causing others to stay home? That happened time and again during last year’s Black Lives Matter protests, without repercussion for the police. The result is a system in which vigilantes armed with assault rifles and uniformed in combat gear can trample protestors’ rights with government endorsement.
The culprit is the First Amendment, which protects only against governmental abridgements of rights. The so-called “state action” requirement means that, for better or worse, the First Amendment does not prohibit private abridgments of speech or assembly rights.
Militias have gathered under the “thin blue line” flag (signifying solidarity with police), enjoyed friendly treatment from officers (including tips and encouragement), and assaulted counter-protesters while police watched (and did nothing). All this has blurred the lines between police and militia. Sometimes there are no lines. Recently hacked membership lists and emails from the Oath Keepers, a prominent far-right anti-government militia that played an extensive role in the Jan. 6 insurrection, showed that many active-duty officers in New York City, Los Angeles, Chicago, Pennsylvania, and New Jersey are part of the organization.
Florida, Iowa, and Oklahoma granted immunity to drivers who run over protestors in certain circumstances, worrying advocates that extremists might mow down protestors and political enemies.
Vigilante targeting of protestors exploded. Rallies and protests have been repeatedly cancelled under looming threats of violence. By one count, militias and similar far-right actors showed up at approximately 500 protests last year, where they were responsible for 64 assaults, 38 cars driven into demonstrators, nine firings of guns at protesters, and 387 other instances of intimidation. There is reason to worry things will only get worse in the wake of Friday’s verdict.
GOP congressmen are already fighting to hire Rittenhouse.
https://www.thedailybeast.com/kyle-rittenhouse-is-acquitted-republican
-lawmakers-fall-over-each-other-to-offer-him-a-job
More at https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2021/11/how-the-rittenhouse-verdic
t-threatens-first-amendment-right-public-protest.html
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SECOND sure likes to post distorted diatribes, doesn't he?
BTW, SECOND, I didn't even read thru first sentence.
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Quote:Only a troll would say "distorted diatribes" AND say didn't read it. You were pre-programmed to do what you did. A troll robot program. Come to think of it, a human with an AR-15 would have been able to wound an assailant, but a robot like Rittenhouse can't use a little finesse when solving a problem and goes with straight forward murder. I already knew that Texas Trumptards cannot improvise under even the slightest pressure (they inevitably get completely discombobulated) so there was no reason to think Rittenhouse could show restraint when he aims an AR-15.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
SECOND sure likes to post distorted diatribes, doesn't he?
BTW, SECOND, I didn't even read thru first sentence.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Seriously, SIX, when you have to lie about what ppl posted, that's stooping pretty low.
Kiki is a piece of shit on my shoes. She should go back to ignoring me, because she's not worth my time at all.
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Go wipe yourself, jack-shit.
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Eat my balls, shitstain.
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Hey Janez...
You see another thread about Rittenhouse anywhere? I just went through 20 pages and I can't find it.
I got into an argument with Second or his split personality Reaverfan on one of them when I posted that Rosenbaum was a pedophile, and I had to use an archive site capture of the info on that because the Legacy Media had scrubbed it, and they were telling me that I was full of shit.
It seems that nobody is arguing today that Rosenbaum dated single women so he could diddle their kids, and I wanted to rub that in it's disgusting face.
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