'Kyle did nothing wrong'? or the crimes of the Kenosha Shooter
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Quote:Convicting Rittenhouse means death for the Jury: A protester who had clashed with Black Lives Matter supporters at the Kyle Rittenhouse trial returned outside the courthouse toting an AR-15-style rifle Wednesday.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I'll bet all the jurors are buying guns after this.
They know that they're going to be murdered if they don't give the "right" verdict.
The man, who referred to himself as “Maserati Mike,” arrived carrying a megaphone in addition to the long rifle and what appeared to be a bulletproof vest.
He was briefly questioned by authorities who asked him to leave, citing a law that prohibits rifles within 1,000 feet of a school.
Shortly after, he drove away in his banged-up Maserati, only to return about an hour later sans rifle.
“Black Lives Matter is a terrorist organization,” the man, who appeared to have a knife in his pocket, shouted into a megaphone.
When approached for an interview, he replied, “I don’t speak to the media.”
The alarming appearance comes a day after he had sparred with Black Lives Matter protesters who were shouting, “No justice, no peace.”
“F-k Black Lives Matter," the man fired back at the group.
“If the glove don’t fit, acquit,” he added. (That was infamous dual murderer O.J. Simpson's defense, and O.J. went free.)
https://nypost.com/2021/11/17/maserati-mike-shows-up-with-rifle-at-kyl
e-rittenhouse-trial/
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
So, what does this all mean?
If prosecutors had a BETTER, higher resolution drone footage of the event showing that Rittenhouse was pointing his gun, why withhold it? Wouldn't it have bolstered their case, instead of forcing jurors to squint at a grainy image, trying to decipher what it showed? Or did the better video show people in the mob making threatening gestures as well?
And why would prosecutors go against the judge's EXPLICIT instructions not to bring up Rittenhouse's "right to remain silent" (as well as contravene the Constitution)?
Either the prosecution is unimaginably incompetent, or they're deliberately setting up a for mistrial.
Their performance is puzzling, to say the least.
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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake
There's a lot about this case that's puzzling.
BTW the judge has a standing order that he imposes on ALL cases heard in his court - that NOBODY gets called a 'victim' - at least before a guilty verdict is reached. He believes that calling someone a victim is prejudicial against the defense. So that wasn't a rule he imposed only for this case.
The prosecution impugning the defendant's silence was maybe 'theater'. Because, despite any instructions to the jury to ignore select statements, nobody can unhear them. Both sides do that, in order to plant ideas in the jurors, even if they get a ruling against them and a motion to strike. What the prosecution may not have expected is the judge's vehemence. Perhaps the judge had just heard that tactic too many times, and was having none of it from the prosecution, like calling people victims (though if there were similar statements made by the defense that didn't get that reaction, is unknown).
I've sat on 3 juries of increasing severity: grand theft and possessing a stolen vehicle; attempted murder; and murder. (The verdicts were guilty; not guilty; and guilty, in that order.)
BOTH prosecution AND defense often play a lot of games. For example, in the attempted murder trial, the defendant, who was a huge dood, was accused of trying to murder another guy by hitting him repeatedly with a baseball bat, such that the beaten guy spent a long time in the hospital recovering and was left with some disability. (The defendant had previously stolen the beaten guy's gun from a gym bag in a closet at a party they both mutually attended, which is why they got into a scuffle in the first place. The verdict in the stolen gun trial was guilty, which we found out afterwards.)
We reached our not-guilty verdict for a couple of reasons. First, we did recognize that there were provoking reasons for the beaten up guy to get in a scuffle with the defendant. Because in all likelihood, the defendant had stolen the gun and was taunting the beaten-up guy over it.
But 1) the beaten-up guy threw the first punch, and 2) as soon as the beaten-up guy stopped swinging at the defendant, the defendant stopped hitting him with a baseball bat. So even though it was a case of fists versus bat, it seemed to lean more toward self-defense and less toward attempted murder.
But AFTER we reached our verdict, the lawyers let down their hair and talked with us. And one of them (I forget which) basically said - you might think they'd bring in the beaten-up guy because with his permanent injuries he'd be a sympathetic character. But the reason why they didn't bring in the beaten-up guy was because while the defendant is tall and hefty he's a lard-ass, and the beaten up guy was even bigger and really buff. And they also did inform us that the lard-ass guy really did take the gun.
In general, lawyers will instruct witnesses to ONLY directly answer the question.
I can see how the tactic works for the defense. Your own lawyer is probably only going to ask you questions that elicit vanilla answers. And the prosecution is going to only ask you questions that can trip you up. If
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Rittenhouse judge unloads wild rant about Black jurors after jury asks unrelated question
Judge Bruce Schroeder defended his actions and attacked the media at a hearing on Wednesday after the jury asked an unrelated question about the Kyle Rittenhouse trial.
Schroeder went off-topic at the hearing to address criticisms he has received in the media.
The judge defended his decision to not allow the people who were shot to be called "victims" because he said it was unfair to Rittenhouse.
"How would you like to be put on trial for a crime and the judge introduced the case to the jury by introducing you as the defendant and the person who's accusing you as the victim?" he asked. "Is it so difficult to use the term 'complaining witness' instead of prejudging what the jury is here to determine?"
He also explained why he allowed the defendant to control the lottery determining which jurors would decide the case.
"I am now reading about how bizarre and unusual it was to have the defendant pick the [juror] numbers out of the tumbler yesterday," Schroeder said. "I would admit that I don't know there's a large number of courts that do that. Maybe not any."
"I do it because of an incident that I had in a case I tried in Racine," he recalled. "I think it was a murder case but I'm not sure. And there was a Black defendant and there were 13 jurors. One of them was Black. And when the clerk -- the clerk, the government official drew the name out of the tumbler, it was a Black, the Black, the only Black."
Since that time, the judge said that he allows the defendants to select alternate jurors so they "feel better."
"We talk about optics nowadays," he said. "That was a bad optic, I thought. I think people feel better when they have control."
Before finishing his rant about the media, Schroeder threatened to remove future trials from live television.
"When I talked about problems with the media when this trial started, we were there in part," he complained, "because of grossly irresponsible handling of what comes out of this trial."
"I'm going to think long and hard again about live television for a trial next time," the judge added. "What's being done is really quite frightening" for a doddering old fool judge.
https://www.rawstory.com/judge-bruce-schroeder-2655752488/
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
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I was an alternate for a trial where some woman's BF was accused of beating up her boss, bc her boss made sexual advances to her and made it sound like a condition of employment.
well, the boss, WAS a young sleazeball. But he showed up in a suit that was 2 sizes too big for him, so that he would look small and helpless. (REALLY???)
The BF was a bigger buff dood. In the end, despite the fact that the boss really WAS a sleazeball ... you just don't go beating someone up for sex discrimination. There are people to complain to, especially since Sleazeball Boss was managing a Federal fund for black businesses in a black neighborhood. I'm sure the feds would have liked to have known what was going on. So the jury decided BF was guilty of assault and battery, and that was my independent decision, too.
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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake
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With Biden* failing on everything, Ted didn't even post today and Second has only posted in this thread.
At least he's not posting about Trump now.
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I listened to the video. I would hardly describe it as a "rant". It came across as more of an explanation. And I wouldn't describe it as "wild", either, altho I know that as far as SECOND is concerned, ANYONE who disagrees with him is either crazy or a 'tard. Too bad SECOND can't see that he's the crazy person around here.
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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake
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Quote:Trump wrote on 11/17/21: When the Broken Old Crow, Mitch McConnell, agreed to a two-month extension, he allowed the Democrats to get their act together and pass the $1.2 Trillion “Non-Infrastructure” Green New Deal Bill, which is a disaster for America in that only 11% of the money will be spent on REAL Infrastructure, with most being spent on Green New Deal nonsense, with big tax increases. Its actual cost is over $2 Trillion, but the bigger disaster is yet to come in the next, much larger version of the Green New Deal, which some people say will be $5 Trillion. This was all allowed by Mitch McConnell’s incompetence and now I understand that a couple Republican Senators may get on board so that they can have yet another and even bigger victory, for the Democrats, while at the same time ensuring massive Inflation and the destruction of our Country as we know it. This is what happens when you allow a guy who lost an Election to take over the Office of the President. He obviously had no mandate, but they’re changing our Country and everything it stands for. Mitch McConnell couldn’t stop the first Bill so 19 Senators, including himself, joined in. That’s what he does—if you can’t beat them, join them. If he wasn’t so stupid and didn’t give the two-month extension, he could have stopped it all. Now he and his RINO friends will allow a much bigger and far worse Bill to pass, ruining our Country while giving the Democrats a great political lift, all at the same time. People, with the help of the Fake News Media, have already forgotten about the horrendous Afghanistan withdrawal, an economy and jobs that are in shambles, and so many other things. The good news is, they can’t forget about Inflation because it’s hitting them right in the face. This is the Broken Old Crow’s fault. He could have won it all using the Debt Ceiling—they were ready to fold. Now the Democrats have a big victory and the wind at their back. McConnell is a fool and he damn well better stop their “Dream of Communism Bill” and keep his Senators in line, or he should resign now, something he should have done a long time ago. Use the Debt Ceiling like it should have been used, you Old Broken Crow, to do so would hurt our Country far less than this horrible Bill. Any Republican in the House or Senate who votes for this Bill will never ever get a Trump Endorsement. Thank you, and good luck!
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
With Biden* failing on everything, Ted didn't even post today and Second has only posted in this thread.
At least he's not posting about Trump now.
https://www.donaldjtrump.com/news/news-uyyehqxefz1082
Trump didn't use any paragraph breaks, but at least he did mark the end of sentences with a ! or a .
In other news, Trump is suing for the billionth time : Based on the foregoing, it is hereby demanded that the Pulitzer Prize Board take immediate steps to strip the New York Times and The Washington Post of the 2018 Pulitzer Prize for National Reporting. Pulitzer Prize Board’s failure to do so will result in prompt legal action being taken against it. Please be guided accordingly.
https://www.donaldjtrump.com/news/news-f9kmf52vby1084
Correction: Trump is not suing. He is threatening to sue. I'm pretty sure his lawyers have written trillions of threatening letters.
Trump declines to condemn Kyle Rittenhouse for killing of two protesters
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
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lol
I knew all I had to do to get the bot to post about Trump was to mention his name.
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Quote:In the parable of the sheep and the goats, Rittenhouse and Trump are Biblical goats, but with modern lawyers arguing they are sheep.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
lol
I knew all I had to do to get the bot to post about Trump was to mention his name.
https://www.google.com/search?q=parable+of+the+sheep+and+the+goats
It gets even more silly when the voters who try passing as sheep on the internet but in reality live as goats insist that real sheep are goats, but it is not confusing because whenever Trump bleats he sounds exactly the same as a goat, which keeps his herd of goats together.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
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Who set the Bot to the Bible Channel again?
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