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'Kyle did nothing wrong'? or the crimes of the Kenosha Shooter

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Sunday, November 21, 2021 3:23 AM


BTW, in the attempted murder case I was on that resulted in an acquittal, the defendant was a convicted gun-thief, suburban, black, gang-banger wanna-be.

But he didn't throw the first punch, and he quit beating the legal-gun-owner, suburban, white, military wanna-be guy when the white guy stopped swinging at him.

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Sunday, November 21, 2021 3:33 AM


Anyway, the most egregious 'self-defense' defense I can think of was when the hefty, gun-toting George Zimmerman got to stalk and threaten an unarmed black youth, then shoot him in 'self defense'.

And in the current Ahmaud Arbery trial, we're to believe that 3 armed white men felt so threatened by a single unarmed black man they had stalked and threatened, that they had a reason to shoot him in 'self-defense'.

Something is very wrong with the self-defense laws when one can get defenses like that.


In the Rittenhouse case, the judge was so befuddled by the law, he could offer no instructions, so the jury was on its own.


I have no issue with whatever decisions the juries render. But there clearly is something wrong with particular self-defense laws as written. It seems it should be possible to write laws with clarity (unlike the Rittenhouse case), that clearly distinguish between aggressor and defender (unlike the Zimmerman case, and possibly the Arbery case).

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Sunday, November 21, 2021 11:02 AM

double post.



Quote:

Originally posted by JAYNEZTOWN:
ISLAM IS A RELIGION OF SHIT
and had nothing to do with this trail

Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Kyle Rittenhouse killed two leftist catspaws



One of them he killed was a pedophile
is it your dream to defend pedophiles or something?

One of the Men Killed by Kyle Rittenhouse just got out of the Psyche Mental Hospital, he was a Convicted Pedophile, Who Used N-Word and Provoked People to ‘Shoot Me’ ... he the pedophile was chasing down a kid and finally got shot by that kid. Rosenbaum was a registered sex offender for a sex crime involving a minor.

The survivor of Rittenhouse self defense shootings, that guy with a chunk of his arm blown off AFTER he pulled a gun on the kid also has criminal past, probably goes around half drunk and drugged out of his mind was charged with smashing the bedroom window at an ex-girlfriend’s home at 4 a.m. with the woman claiming he had been harassing her on the phone, charged with prowling and stalking police, Grosskreutz was arrested and charged with hitting his grandmother in the face during a dispute, another year, was hit with a felony burglary charge

The other guy Huber was already under arrest for attacking women for domestic violence, “Use of Dangerous Weapon,” “Strangulation & Suffocation,” “False Imprisonment,”

Pedophiles and Criminals Attacking a Kid who won the fight
the Leftists perhaps not sending their best?

and...

What the fuck is it with people coming in to threads to suck to dick off jihadi islamo propaganda pushers
Why do people insist on taking it up the ass from mohammedan islamics?

That's not to say all muslims are terrorists, some muslims as individual people have good qualities despite having such a shit religion

but some people insist on making this a racial, worship, political and religion and ethnic issue...so cool
Let's go there

You get a rich dude like O.J its a scene where a person basically gets away with murdering a Jew 'Ronald Lyle Goldman' and a Blonde Caucasian woman ...why because its the Media Circus and MONEY...not Race

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Originally posted by second:

or a Muslim like me would have been acquitted, too?





Why do you expect us to click on such a shit link?

Are you also a Muslim or Anarchist Commie Marxist or something, maybe your just one of those fucked up Antifa Lennist Afro centric Marxists or something?

oh... POOR FUCKING ISLAM....feel sorry for the poor 1400 yr old pedophile terrorist that jihadists pray to and Feel soory for a shit book, the shit jihadi literature that islamists worship, feel sorry for their shit terrorist pedo prophet called Moohammad, they say

POOR POOR FUCKING ISLAMIC ...BOO FUCKING WOO CRY cry

Dozens of Innocent Black African Americans get gunned down EVERY FUCKING Weekend by HOODRAT Negroid Gangbangers

Hundreds and Thousands of Black Africans are openly sold as slaves in Markets in Libya

The jihadi islamics are going on a rampage of murder, rape, shootings and bombings this month across Arabia, they are killing Hindu on the Indian sub continent, in Europe, in N.Africa in Asia killing and murdering Buddhists, they are killing in France, killing Black African Christians in Nigeria, in genociding ethnic races in Syria, in Uganda, in England, in Afghanistan, in Thailand, in Egypt, they carry out mass slaughter and massaceres in Burkina Faso, they might even be a few crossing the US Southern Border inside groups of other illegals
but an American guy 'Kyle' you hate, a guy the media programmed you to hate,
this guy is 'not guility' allowed walk free
So you think -
Let's stop the entire planet from turning, let's stop everything from moving
and make this about poor poor islams

but let's stay silent about all the crimes, about all the hundreds of thousands of Americans dying by drugs
all the other crimes and real deaths and real murders in this world
and let's not miss a propaganda opportunity to bas

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Sunday, November 21, 2021 11:02 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by JAYNEZTOWN:
ISLAM IS A RELIGION OF SHIT
and had nothing to do with this trail
Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Kyle Rittenhouse killed two leftist catspaws

One of them he killed was a pedophile
is it your dream to defend pedophiles or something?

One of the Men Killed by Kyle Rittenhouse just got out of the Psyche Mental Hospital, he was a Convicted Pedophile, Who Used N-Word and Provoked People to ‘Shoot Me’ ... he the pedophile was chasing down a kid and finally got shot by that kid. Rosenbaum was a registered sex offender for a sex crime involving a minor.

The survivor of Rittenhouse self defense shootings, that guy with a chunk of his arm blown off AFTER he pulled a gun on the kid also has criminal past, probably goes around half drunk and drugged out of his mind was charged with smashing the bedroom window at an ex-girlfriend’s home at 4 a.m. with the woman claiming he had been harassing her on the phone, charged with prowling and stalking police, Grosskreutz was arrested and charged with hitting his grandmother in the face during a dispute, another year, was hit with a felony burglary charge

The other guy Huber was already under arrest for attacking women for domestic violence, “Use of Dangerous Weapon,” “Strangulation & Suffocation,” “False Imprisonment,”

Pedophiles and Criminals Attacking a Kid who won the fight
the Leftists perhaps not sending their best?

and...

What the fuck is it with people coming in to threads to suck to dick off jihadi islamo propaganda pushers
Why do people insist on taking it up the ass from mohammedan islamics?

That's not to say all muslims are terrorists, some muslims as individual people have good qualities despite having such a shit religion

but some people insist on making this a racial, worship, political and religion and ethnic issue...so cool
Let's go there

You get a rich dude like O.J its a scene where a person basically gets away with murdering a Jew 'Ronald Lyle Goldman' and a Blonde Caucasian woman ...why because its the Media Circus and MONEY...not Race

















Anyways back on Topic it seems Tucker made a Documentary on Kyle
https://uk.news.yahoo.com/threw-them-room-several-times-074749943.html
'I threw them out of the room several times': Kyle Rittenhouse's attorney says he didn't approve of Tucker Carlson film crew

Tucker Carlson at Fox says he's going to air the interview with Kyle Rittenhouse

the media madness continues....

Kyle Rittenhouse: verdict exposes divide that ‘angry’ Biden fails to heal
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/5c4b7302-4a23-11ec-9b62-734d2c1aba5
2?shareToken=0e1aedc27f4ec635b43134eaf708046a

QUOTE
White supremacist, vigilante, gun nut, all-American hero, a boy trying to protect businesses as police stepped back?

Folk seem to keep forgetting that he was working as a Security Guard that night. He was merely acting as a First Responder when he repeatedly provided First Aid to the injured, and escorting them to the EMTs, as well as using his Fire Extinguisher to extinguisherthe fires that the criminal arsonist rioters were setting.

I hear the Rittenhouse interview with Tucker will be on the Manday show.






Also, I keep forgetting to mention that the verdict was rendered on Friday, yesterday. Just in time for Deer Hunting Season in Wisconsin, which started on Saturday. One might wonder if this has any affect on all of the riots about the verdict happening in cityslicker sites, not in WI while everybody with a rifle or bow is roaming around.

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Sunday, November 21, 2021 11:40 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by 1KIKI:
Anyway, the most egregious 'self-defense' defense I can think of was when the hefty, gun-toting George Zimmerman got to stalk and threaten an unarmed black youth, then shoot him in 'self defense'.

Just how confused are you?

"hefty" Zimmerman, with his injuries of his head smashed into the pavement, was age 28, all of 5' 6" and 185 lbs - mostly lard at that point, was a Neighborhood Watch, working with Police to deter the criminals from perpetrating in his hood. I personally have not been down to 195 since I was 21 - until my first Covid.

And your tiny little helpless drug addict, thief, burglar, vandal, violent thug Trayvon Martin, age 17, 6' and 160 lbs trying to kill Zimmerman by smashing his head into the pavement, which all of the witnesses agreed and admitted to (but outside the prosecutor's blackmail directives to lie). Being high on pot, having had somebody buy cigars for him, and carrying the ingredients for drug cocktail "Lean", he only took 40 minutes to walk the 10 minutes from 7-11 - and then 10 minutes after he was next to the house where his dad was, he backtracked to hunt down Zimmerman and beat him.

Not that your FACTS Vaccine has worn off enough for you to wake up, but:
https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2012/06/what_the_media_choose
_not_to_know_about_trayvon.html



When I was 17 and 160 pounds I was benching 350, doing 44 chin-ups in a set, 130 pushups every other day, 75 dips in a set, 240 dips in a day. That hulking thug had a lot of strength and power. And he practiced Fight Club style street fighting.

I guess you just would have only been happy when Trayvon completed his murder of Zimmerman, and then anonymously slipped away in the night.






Quote:

Something is very wrong with the self-defense laws when one can get defenses like that.


In the Rittenhouse case, the judge was so befuddled by the law, he could offer no instructions, so the jury was on its own.


I have no issue with whatever decisions the juries render. But there clearly is something wrong with particular self-defense laws as written. It seems it should be possible to write laws with clarity (unlike the Rittenhouse case), that clearly distinguish between aggressor and defender (unlike the Zimmerman case, and possibly the Arbery case).

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Sunday, November 21, 2021 4:19 PM

You're just as ignorant of the effects of marijuana as Kiki is about Covid.



--------------------------------------------------

Vaccinated People: "You need to get muh vaccination shots that don't work because I got muh vaccination shots that don't work and I'm afraid of people that didn't get muh vaccination shots that don't work because muh vaccination shots that don't work don't work."

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Sunday, November 21, 2021 5:38 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by JAYNEZTOWN:
ISLAM IS A RELIGION OF SHIT
and had nothing to do with this trail

Why do you expect us to click on such a shit link?

Are you also a Muslim or Anarchist Commie Marxist or something, maybe your just one of those fucked up Antifa Lennist Afro centric Marxists or something?

oh... POOR FUCKING ISLAM....feel sorry for the poor 1400 yr old pedophile terrorist that jihadists pray to and Feel soory for a shit book, the shit jihadi literature that islamists worship, feel sorry for their shit terrorist pedo prophet called Moohammad, they say

POOR POOR FUCKING ISLAMIC ...BOO FUCKING WOO CRY cry

Dozens of Innocent Black African Americans get gunned down EVERY FUCKING Weekend by HOODRAT Negroid Gangbangers

Hundreds and Thousands of Black Africans are openly sold as slaves in Markets in Libya

The jihadi islamics are going on a rampage of murder, rape, shootings and bombings this month across Arabia, they are killing Hindu on the Indian sub continent, in Europe, in N.Africa in Asia killing and murdering Buddhists, they are killing in France, killing Black African Christians in Nigeria, in genociding ethnic races in Syria, in Uganda, in England, in Afghanistan, in Thailand, in Egypt, they carry out mass slaughter and massaceres in Burkina Faso, they might even be a few crossing the US Southern Border inside groups of other illegals
but an American guy 'Kyle' you hate, a guy the media programmed you to hate,
this guy is 'not guility' allowed walk free
So you think -
Let's stop the entire planet from turning, let's stop everything from moving
and make this about poor poor islams

but let's stay silent about all the crimes, about all the hundreds of thousands of Americans dying by drugs
all the other crimes and real deaths and real murders in this world
and let's not miss a propaganda opportunity to bash America and promote more shit islamist bullshit religion and Sharia Law Jihadi propaganda

No YOU and ONLY YOU ARE HEADED TO AN EXTREMELY DARK PLACE ...
have you started going to those mosques, maybe its the Antifa Karl Marx crap you read, or have you started putting the jihadi rags on top of your head? Have gone full mohammedan retard yet?

Jayneztown, were you foaming-at-the-mouth mad?

Trump’s "stop the steal" lawyer Lin Wood, who once represented Kyle Rittenhouse, is threatening to sue the Rittenhouse's current attorney after he called Wood an "idiot" on CNN on Friday night.

https://www.rawstory.com/lin-wood-2655769596/

Two stories from Wisconsin:

Chrystul Kizer—17-yr-old Black girl in Wisconsin who killed the man raping & trafficking her
• Convicted & case is now in Appeals

Kyle Rittenhouse—17-yr-old white boy in Wisconsin who took an AR-15 to a protest & killed 2
• Acquitted

The system isn't broken—it was built this way

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Monday, November 22, 2021 2:06 AM

America is a great country when the self-defense argument works for a black man in Florida, even when shooting at cops:

On the same day as Rittenhouse was declared not guilty, Andrew Coffee IV found not guilty of murder, attempted murder in Indian River County SWAT raid

Alteria Woods, 21, died during exchange of gunfire

https://www.wptv.com/news/region-indian-river-county/andrew-coffee-iv-
found-not-guilty-on-5-counts-in-indian-river-county-swat-raid



The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Monday, November 22, 2021 3:27 AM

We have all followed this story since August 2020 ... it has almost come to its conclusion

Unfortunately it got very political, it was election season and the truth was almost lost.

Wisconsin's court system has four levels: municipal courts, circuit courts, the Court of Appeals, and the Supreme Court. During the Civil War, Wisconsin was a Republican state; in fact it is the state that gave birth to the Republican Party.

In another seperate case the United States v. Skoien, 587 F.3 d 803 (7th Cir. 2009 ) – Steven Skoien, a Wisconsin man convicted of two misdemeanor domestic violence convictions, appealed his conviction based on the argument that the prohibition violated the individual rights to bear arms, as described in Heller. After initial favorable rulings in lower court based on a standard of intermediate scrutiny, on July 13, 2010, the Seventh Circuit, sitting en banc, ruled 10–1 against Skoien and reinstated his conviction for a gun violation, citing the strong relation between the law in question and the government objective.
Skoien was convicted and sentenced to two years in prison for the gun violation, and will thus likely be subject to a lifetime ban on gun ownership. Editorials favoring gun rights sharply criticized this ruling as going too far with the enactment of a lifetime gun ban, while editorials favoring gun regulations praised the ruling as "a bucket of cold water thrown on the 'gun rights' celebration"

since people here have discessed the Right to Firearms to have a Militia or to Bear Arms
Let's have a look at a quote on the 2nd Amendment

The Second Amendment, as passed by the House and Senate and later ratified by the States, reads:


A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the People to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.

The hand-written copy of the Bill of Rights which hangs in the National Archives had slightly different capitalization and punctuation inserted by William Lambert, the scribe who prepared it. This copy reads:

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.


Both versions are commonly used by "official" U.S. government publications.

Quote:

Originally posted by second:


Trump’s "stop the steal" lawyer Lin Wood, who once represented Kyle Rittenhouse, is threatening to sue the Rittenhouse's current attorney after he called Wood an "idiot" on CNN on Friday night.



You must of the memory of a fucking goldfish or something but I told you before many, many, many times I don't vote for Trump, I'm not American, I don't really give a shit either way who gets elected, its a country for the American people, its not my country, its a place where US citziens and the American people vote and I have nothing to do with its voting.
I will admit this one I got interested in because I watched the news breaking as it went viral and the Gun Debate and Legal system is of slight interest to me just for the sake of debate and firearms rights and right to defend.

I do follow American News because if the US economy goes into the shitter typically the rest of the Western world also starts to suffer

...but

Tell me have You Read ANYTHING any single thing about islam.

Have you read any of the pages in their islamo books

All of it is translated you know into English, Japanese, Spanish and many other languages so even an ignorant less educated idiot who has the ability to read and write can pick up one of their shit islamist books or you can even download a translation for free and understand what islam is and who mahomet the founder of islamism really was.

If You had read any fucking thing about islam at all, I wonder if you would be so quick to defend it.
Or maybe you are so fucked up you will twist and turn words and politics and make it seem like jihadis, and moslems and terrorists a

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Monday, November 22, 2021 4:09 AM


JSF, you seem to forget that unlike Ritternhouse - or you - I've been an actual licensed professional first responder, an EMT.

So let me ask you - was Rittenhouse deputized to be 'security'? Licensed? Hired? Registered with the police? Anything? Was he a real first responder? Police? Fire? EMT/ Paramedic? (A first responder is a person with specialized training who is among the first to arrive and provide assistance at the scene of an emergency, such as an accident, natural disaster, or terrorism. First responders typically include law enforcement officers, paramedics, EMT's and firefighters.)

Or was he a self-important busy-body, self-assigned and self-promoted?



As for Trayvon Martin, you seem to forget he was unarmed and was STALKED AND CONFRONTED by a man with a gun. Where was Martin's right to self-defense? To stand HIS ground?


You are one seriously confused dood.

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