new deadly human-to-human-transmissible coronavirus emerges out of China
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Well yeah, I already mentioned that this entire thing was a great advertisement for Bernie's Open Borders.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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If there were sufficiently good tests for SARS-COV-2 that were accurate enough, cheap enough, and fast enough - the government could go out and test random people in the population, instead of waiting for sick people to show up in the ER, or at some type of border entry. That would give the government an earlier, better idea of distribution in the particular population they were testing.
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https://www.zerohedge.com/health/us-breaks-diamond-princess-quarantine
-flies-13-coronavirus-infected-americans-omaha-facility
As a reminder, the Princess Cruises ship was carrying 2,666 guests and 1,045 crew when it set sail and was quarantined after 10 cases of coronavirus were reported Feb. 4. Since then the number of cases on board has exploded, and on Monday alone, Japan announced an additional 99 infections on the Diamond Princess, raising the ship’s total number of cases to 454. And since most of the people on the ship have yet to be tested, the real number of infections may not be known for days.
"The quarantine process failed," Fauci said. "I'd like to sugarcoat it and try to be diplomatic about it, but it failed. People were getting infected on that ship. Something went awry in the process of the quarantining on that ship. I don't know what it was, but a lot of people got infected on that ship."
What might have gotten awry is that the virus is airborne and spread via the air conditioning system. But before we get banned from another social network, we will wait for someone "more credible" to make that claim.
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I learned a lot from this exceptional basic explanation of epidemiology and prediction. And there are many links to sources and related articles, so you might be interested in going to the original.
https://www.statnews.com/2020/02/14/disease-modelers-see-future-of-cov
id-19/
Disease modelers gaze into their computers to see the future of Covid-19, and it isn’t good
By Sharon Begley @sxbegle
February 14, 2020
At least 550,000 cases. Maybe 4.4 million. Or something in between.
Like weather forecasters, researchers who use mathematical equations to project how bad a disease outbreak might become are used to uncertainties and incomplete data, and Covid-19, the disease caused by the new-to-humans coronavirus that began circulating in Wuhan, China, late last year, has those everywhere you look. That can make the mathematical models of outbreaks, with their wide range of forecasts, seem like guesswork gussied up with differential equations; the eightfold difference in projected Covid-19 cases in Wuhan, calculated by a team from the U.S. and Canada, isn’t unusual for the early weeks of an outbreak of a never-before-seen illness.
But infectious-disease models have been approximating reality better and better in recent years, thanks to a better understanding of everything from how germs behave to how much time people spend on buses.
“Year by year there have been improvements in forecasting models and the way they are combined to provide forecasts,” said physicist Alessandro Vespignani of Northeastern University, a leading infectious-disease modeler.
That’s not to say there’s not room for improvement. The key variables of most models are mostly the same ones epidemiologists have used for decades to predict the course of outbreaks. But with greater computer power now at their disposal, modelers are incorporating more fine-grained data to better reflect the reality of how people live their lives and interact in the modern world — from commuting to work to jetting around the world. These more detailed models can take weeks to spit out their conclusions, but they can better inform public health officials on the likely impact of disease-control measures.
Models are not intended to be scare machines, projecting worst-case possibilities. (Modelers prefer “project” to “predict,” to indicate that the outcomes they describe are predicated on numerous assumptions.) The idea is to calculate numerous what-ifs: What if schools and workplaces closed? What if public transit stopped? What if there were a 90% effective vaccine and half the population received it in a month?
“Our overarching goal is to minimize the spread and burden of infectious disease,” said Sara Del Valle, an applied mathematician and disease modeler at Los Alamos National Laboratory. By calculating the effects of countermeasures such as social isolation, travel bans, vaccination, and using face masks, modelers can “understand what’s going on and inform policymakers,” she said. For instance, although many face masks are too porous to keep viral particles out (or in), their message of possible contagion here! “keeps people away from you” and reduces disease spread, Del Valle said. “I’m a fan of face masks.”
The clearest sign of the progress in modeling comes from flu forecasts in the U.S. Every year, about two dozen labs try to model the flu season, and have been coming ever closer to accurately forecasting its timing, peak, and short-term intensity. The U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention determines which model did the best; for 2018-2019, it was one from Los Alamos.
Los Alamos also nailed the course of the 2003 outbreak of SARS in Toronto, including when it would peak. “And it was spot on in the number of people who would be infected,” said Del Valle: just under 400 in that city, of a global total of about 8,000.
The computers that run disease models grind through calculations that reflect researchers’ best estimates of factors that t
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https://summit.news/2020/02/17/who-holds-secret-talks-with-tech-giants
-to-stop-spread-of-coronavirus-misinformation/
WHO Holds Secret Talks With Tech Giants To Stop Spread of Coronavirus “Misinformation”
Despite the fact that some things labeled “misinformation” turned out to be true.
The meeting was organized by the WHO but hosted by Facebook at its Menlo Park campus in California. Attendees included representatives from Amazon, Twilio, Dropbox, Google, Verizon, Salesforce, Twitter, YouTube, Airbnb, Kinsa and Mapbox.
According to the WHO’s Andy Pattison, an “infodemic” of misinformation has accompanied the coronavirus outbreak and big tech giants need to respond by censoring “fake news” content.
Both Facebook and Twitter already announced that they would remove content deemed to be misinformation regarding the virus, a dangerous new lurch to mass censorship ...
I mentioned earlier in the thread that I noticed an abundance of "official' sources on duckduckgo/ google while I was looking for new-news. I've been told that google has been monkeying with its search results, moving officialese/ propaganda higher on the list. Now some social media are outright removing content.
https://www.epsilontheory.com/the-industrially-necessary-doctor-tedros/
The Industrially Necessary Doctor Tedros
"The World Health Organization is working with Google to ensure that people get facts from WHO first when they search for information about the new virus that recently emerged in China.
Since the outbreak began, a number of misleading claims and hoaxes about the virus have circulated online. They include false conspiracy theories that the virus was created in a lab and that vaccines have already been manufactured, exaggerations about the number of sick and dead, and claims about bogus cures." - Associated Press, Feb. 3, 2020
It’s not just Google. It’s also Ten Cent. It’s also Facebook. It’s also Twitter.
This article makes a cogent case that Tedros is merely parroting the Chinese Party Line. But because Tedros gives it WHO's official stamp, anyone disagreeing with WHO ... that in effect are disagreeing with propaganda, could be banned as spreading 'misinformation'.
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https://ca.news.yahoo.com/coronavirus-diamond-princess-canadians-15451
3845.html
https://ca.news.yahoo.com/chef-jose-andres-provides-meals-115149233.ht
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Quote:mmmm. So.
Originally posted by 1KIKI:
https://summit.news/2020/02/17/who-holds-secret-talks-with-tech-giants
-to-stop-spread-of-coronavirus-misinformation/
WHO Holds Secret Talks With Tech Giants To Stop Spread of Coronavirus “Misinformation”
Despite the fact that some things labeled “misinformation” turned out to be true.
The meeting was organized by the WHO but hosted by Facebook at its Menlo Park campus in California. Attendees included representatives from Amazon, Twilio, Dropbox, Google, Verizon, Salesforce, Twitter, YouTube, Airbnb, Kinsa and Mapbox.
According to the WHO’s Andy Pattison, an “infodemic” of misinformation has accompanied the coronavirus outbreak and big tech giants need to respond by censoring “fake news” content.
Both Facebook and Twitter already announced that they would remove content deemed to be misinformation regarding the virus, a dangerous new lurch to mass censorship ...
I mentioned earlier in the thread that I noticed an abundance of "official' sources on duckduckgo/ google while I was looking for new-news. I've been told that google has been monkeying with its search results, moving officialese/ propaganda higher on the list. Now some social media are outright removing content.
https://www.epsilontheory.com/the-industrially-necessary-doctor-tedros/
The Industrially Necessary Doctor Tedros
"The World Health Organization is working with Google to ensure that people get facts from WHO first when they search for information about the new virus that recently emerged in China.
Since the outbreak began, a number of misleading claims and hoaxes about the virus have circulated online. They include false conspiracy theories that the virus was created in a lab and that vaccines have already been manufactured, exaggerations about the number of sick and dead, and claims about bogus cures." - Associated Press, Feb. 3, 2020
It’s not just Google. It’s also Ten Cent. It’s also Facebook. It’s also Twitter.
This article makes a cogent case that Tedros is merely parroting the Chinese Party Line. But because Tedros gives it WHO's official stamp, anyone disagreeing with WHO ... that in effect are disagreeing with propaganda, could be banned as spreading 'misinformation'.
Do you believe the information you posted about insertions in the DNA/RNA are factually accurate, or a hoax?
These are now defined as "misinformation" by WHO, correct?
Do you have an idea, or can recall some of the "misinformation" which has been proven true? Like which specific items?
Do you think this is a global assault on the Freedom of Speech?
U.S.A is the only place with Freedom of Speech in the world, correct?
The conference was held in the U.S.
Without Freedom of Speech, all other nations may believe they can completely control which propaganda is issued to the masses, but the pesky U.S. messes that up for some nations.
In movies and novels, some plot use government control of media to regulate panic, mass hysteria. Sometimes for Outbreaks, or else Aliens, etc. The mass hysteria of Trump-haters is unfettered, but real information on coronavirus seems readily scrubbed.
Is this all targeting Free Speech?
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Quote:It SHOULD be a HUGE topic of study. But after a comment on bioRxiv (preprint server of Cold Springs Harbor Laboratory) by someone who claims to have used the same data and software and linked SARS-COV-2 to existing SARS binding sites (rather than HIV), I've found nothing. And indeed, after reading a large number of claims that the paper was withdrawn, it still is available at the bioRxiv site: https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.01.30.927871v1.full.pdf
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Do you believe the information you posted about insertions in the DNA/RNA are factually accurate, or a hoax?
I can't conclude anything except that it seems to be a verboten topic.
Quote:AFAIK, yes. The official story is that while the virus may have come from bats, the source hasn't been identified, but it came from the live market in Wuhan, and nowhere else. And don't you forget it.
These are now defined as "misinformation" by WHO, correct?
https://www.bostonherald.com/2020/02/03/the-latest-uae-suspends-flight
s-to-china-outside-beijing/
Quote:OMG - how many? Start of epidemic. Source of epidemic. Transmissibility between people. Number of cases. Actions taken by China to limit the spread ...
Do you have an idea, or can recall some of the "misinformation" which has been proven true? Like which specific items?
Quote:Yes. The media and the internet span the globe. It's not a question of IF major players have met to decide what we can and can't see. It's a question of how much they decided to let us see.
Do you think this is a global assault on the Freedom of Speech?
Quote:IDK if other countries have a similar constitutional 'guarantee'.
U.S.A is the only place with Freedom of Speech in the world, correct?
Quote:The US is all on board with censorship.
Without Freedom of Speech, all other nations may believe they can completely control which propaganda is issued to the masses, but the pesky U.S. messes that up for some nations.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/2020/01/29/coronavirus-symptoms-fa
cebook-youtube-twitter-misinformation/4610730002/
Coronavirus outbreak: Facebook, Google, YouTube and Twitter scramble to contain misinformation
Quote:Whether it's intended or not ... ultimately? Yes, Free Speech is a victim, along with actual dead people and those permanently impacted. But honestly, I don't care about the rest of the world. I care about here, in the US. Our 'news' has been distorted for a long, long time. But looking for 'news' on the coronavirus, given my background and experience, it's horrifyingly obvious how deeply it's been truncated to officialese and propaganda.
In movies and novels, some plot use government control of media to regulate panic, mass hysteria. Sometimes for Outbreaks, or else Aliens, etc. The mass hysteria of Trump-haters is unfettered, but real information on coronavirus seems readily scrubbed.
Is this all targeting Free Speech?
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NYTimes:
Japan Lets Cruise Passengers Walk Free. Is That Safe?
As a quarantine over a coronavirus outbreak ended, experts expressed alarm over the protocols on the ship, which has 621 confirmed infections.
CNN:
A total of 624 cases of the virus are linked to the stricken ship.
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https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/keenly-aware-fda-braces-drug-and-med
ical-supply-shortages-china
"Keenly Aware"- FDA Braces For Drug And Medical Supply Shortages From China
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