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Elections; 2024

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Saturday, November 2, 2024 5:15 AM

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SECOND:
Democrats refuse to call Nazis what they are.


You're right. There are a bunch in Ukraine they could be calling out.

Dood, you walked into that one!


That is Putin's talking point ... Blah blah blah



No, son. There are actual Nazis in Ukraine military and everyone knows it.

Nazi Symbols on Ukraine’s Front Lines Highlight Thorny Issues of History
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/06/05/world/europe/nazi-symbols-ukraine.h
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Profile: Who are Ukraine’s far-right Azov regiment?
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/3/1/who-are-the-azov-regiment


But you just repeatrd a neocon talking point.

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justify killing millions of Ukrainians
Didn't Zelenskiy recently that only 80,000 troops were killed?
Where does this "millions" come from?




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"It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal." - Henry Kissinger


AMERICANS SUPPORT AMERICA

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THG
Saturday, November 2, 2024 6:20 AM

Signym, there are Nazi's everywhere. Hell, you're one...

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Saturday, November 2, 2024 6:30 AM

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Originally posted by THG:
Signym, there are Nazi's everywhere. Hell, you're one...

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Grow up.

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Trump will be fine.
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Saturday, November 2, 2024 7:32 AM

I endlessly harp on things like E-Verify. Walls and border fortifications just don't work. Supply and demand won't be denied so easily, and as long as the demand is there, supply will find a way.

E-Verify is the only option with any chance of success. The business community in the US doesn't mind border theater, but it does mind things that might work. So they oppose E-Verify on specious anti-regulation grounds and Republican leaders go along with a wink and a nudge. The cynicism is sort of jaw dropping.

https://jabberwocking.com/as-the-border-becomes-more-militarized-so-do
-smuggling-gangs
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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Saturday, November 2, 2024 7:43 AM


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Signym, there are Nazi's everywhere. Hell, you're one...

SIX: Grow up.



Does that mean I'm no longer a Russian troll???


People throw the words "Nazi" and "fascist" around so easily nowadays, and I'll bet you quite a few bucks SECOND and THGR can't even define what they are.
They can't define "freedom" or "democracy" either, come to think of it, and THGR uses those words a lot, too.



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Saturday, November 2, 2024 7:50 AM

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"I Was Wrong": CNN Panelist Retracts Trump-Cheney "Firing Squad" Propaganda

Friday, Nov 01, 2024 - 03:37 PM

Update (1836ET): After the MSM spent the day in histrionics peddling the falsehood that Trump said Liz Cheney should face a firing squad, - when he was simply calling her a chickenhawk - CNN panelist Jonah Goldberg offered a mea culpa, and has retracted his claim that Trump called for Cheney's execution.

"This morning on CNN I referred to Trump’s “rifles” quote as him advocating a 'firing squad' for Liz Cheney," said Goldberg. "I was wrong to say he was calling for a firing squad execution. After I said that, my co-panelist, Brad Todd made the case that I was wrong."

"I let my disgust at Trump’s comments get the better of me as this was the first time I’d heard them."



People really let their delusions drive there emotions, don't they?




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Saturday, November 2, 2024 8:18 AM

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"I Was Wrong": CNN Panelist Retracts Trump-Cheney "Firing Squad" Propaganda

Friday, Nov 01, 2024 - 03:37 PM

Update (1836ET): After the MSM spent the day in histrionics peddling the falsehood that Trump said Liz Cheney should face a firing squad, - when he was simply calling her a chickenhawk - CNN panelist Jonah Goldberg offered a mea culpa, and has retracted his claim that Trump called for Cheney's execution.

"This morning on CNN I referred to Trump’s “rifles” quote as him advocating a 'firing squad' for Liz Cheney," said Goldberg. "I was wrong to say he was calling for a firing squad execution. After I said that, my co-panelist, Brad Todd made the case that I was wrong."

"I let my disgust at Trump’s comments get the better of me as this was the first time I’d heard them."



People really let their delusions drive there emotions, don't they?



After watching at least 10 years straight of Legacy Media gaslighting, I don't know what to think when I see admissions of guilt like this.

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Saturday, November 2, 2024 7:23 PM

Dead-heat poll results are astonishing – and improbable, these experts say

It’s possible the tied race reflects not the sentiments of the voters, but rather risk-averse decision-making by pollsters

Josh Clinton, a politics professor at Vanderbilt University, and John Lapinski, the network’s director of elections, pondered whether the tied race reflected not the sentiments of the voters, but rather risk-averse decision-making by pollsters. Some, they suggested, may be wary of findings indicating unusually large leads for one candidate and introducing corrective weighting.

Of the last 321 polls in the battlegrounds, 124 - nearly 40% - showed margins of a single point or less, the pair wrote. Pennsylvania was the most “troubling” case, with 20 out of 59 polls showing an exact tie, while another 26 showed margins of less than 1%.

This indicated “not just an astonishingly tight race, but also an improbably tight race”, according to Clinton and Lapinski.

Large numbers of surveys would be expected to show a wider variety of opinion, even in a close election, due to the randomness inherent in polling. The absence of such variation suggests that either pollsters are adjusting “weird” margins of 5% or more, Clinton and Lapinski argued – or the following second possibility, which they deemed more likely.

“Some of the tools pollsters are using in 2024 to address the polling problems of 2020, such as weighting by partisanship, past vote or other factors, may be flattening out the differences and reducing the variation in reported poll results,” they write.

Either explanation “raises the possibility that the results of the election could be unexpectedly different than the razor-close narrative the cluster of state polls and the polling averages suggest”, they added.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/nov/02/what-polls-mean-so-far
-trump-harris-election-voters


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Saturday, November 2, 2024 8:11 PM

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People throw the words "Nazi" and "fascist" around so easily nowadays

"Enemies within": Who are the Americans Trump wants to prosecute or punish?

By Zachary Basu | Nov 11, 2024

https://www.axios.com/2024/11/01/trumps-enemies-within-list

Donald Trump has been radically transparent in his pledge to use — and abuse — the power of the presidency to seek retribution against Americans he believes have wronged him.

Why it matters: The final weeks of the election have been consumed by Trump's bellicose vows to crush "the enemy from within" — language that critics, including some of his own former advisers, say is fascist.

The former president's vague, haphazard speaking style has triggered fierce debate over who specifically falls into that "enemies" group, especially after he floated using the U.S. military against "radical left lunatics."

He may not keep an official list, but a review of Trump's public remarks reveals a vast catalog of perceived enemies whom he has marked for imprisonment, prosecution or other punishment.

Political opponents

President Biden: Shortly after his indictment by special counsel Jack Smith last year, Trump threatened to appoint a "real" special prosecutor to "go after" Biden and his family.

Vice President Harris: At a rally in Pennsylvania in September, Trump called for his opponent in the presidential race to be "impeached and prosecuted" for the Biden administration's handling of the border.

Former President Obama: On Truth Social, Trump has reposted multiple calls for Obama to be arrested and face "military tribunals."

Former Speaker Nancy Pelosi: Trump has specifically labeled Pelosi and Rep. Adam Schiff (D-Calif.) "enemies from within," and called last month for Pelosi and her husband to be prosecuted for alleged insider trading.

Former Rep. Liz Cheney: "She should go to Jail along with the rest of the Unselect Committee!" Trump posted in May, referring to Cheney's "treasonous" leadership of the House Jan. 6 select committee.

On Thursday, calling Cheney a "radical war hawk," Trump told Tucker Carlson: Let's put her with the rifle standing there with nine barrels shooting at her, OK? Let's see how she feels about it — you know, when the guns are trained on her face."

Retired Gen. Mark Milley: Trump suggested last year that the former chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff — who has since called Trump "fascist to the core" — deserved to be executed for back-channeling with Chinese generals.

Media and Big Tech

ABC: After being repeatedly fact-checked in his September debate with Harris, Trump demanded that the Federal Communications Commission revoke ABC's broadcasting license.

CBS: Trump called for CBS to lose its license and for "60 Minutes" to be "immediately taken off the air" after accusing the program of deceptively editing an interview with Harris. He sued the network over this on Thursday.

NBC: Trump called last year for NBC parent company Comcast to be investigated for treason because of its coverage of his legal troubles. He promised that NBC would be "thoroughly scrutinized for their knowingly dishonest and corrupt coverage" if he's elected.

Google: After baselessly accusing the search giant of "only revealing and displaying bad stories" about him, Trump declared on Truth Social: "I will request their prosecution, at the maximum levels, when I win the Election."

Mark Zuckerberg: In his new "Save America" coffee table book, Trump accuses the Meta CEO of meddling in the 2020 election and writes: "We are watching him closely, and if he does anything illegal this time he will spend the rest of his life in prison."
Private citizens

Election workers: As he lays the groundwork to again claim voter

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THG
Saturday, November 2, 2024 8:43 PM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:

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Originally posted by THG:

Signym, there are Nazi's everywhere. Hell, you're one...

SIX: Grow up.



Does that mean I'm no longer a Russian troll???







Nope, Russia is Brimming with Nazi's

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