Elections; 2024
POSTED BY: THG
UPDATED: Friday, November 21, 2025 00:12
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EDITED FOR REVISIONS ON NEWER NUMBERS LATER IN THE DAY, SEVERAL HOURS AFTER THE INITIAL POST.
OOPS. Probably should have figured we'd have new data later on Monday after the weekend.
SPOILER ALERT: It got better for Trump in the afternoon. 
On this day in History, October 28th:
0000000000000000---2024----000---2020---000----2016-----
National00000000Trump +0.2000Biden +7.5000Clinton0 +4.6
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Wisconsin0000000Trump0 +0.3000Biden +6.4000Clinton0 +6.0
Pennsylvania0000Trump0 +0.5000Biden +3.8000Clinton0 +5.0
Ohio000000000000Trump0 +7.0000Trump +0.6000Trump000 +1.3
Michigan00000000Trump 0+0.1000Biden +8.6000Clinton +7.0
Arizona000000000Trump0 +1.5000Biden +2.2000Clinton0 +1.5
Nevada0000000000Trump0 +0.7000Biden +4.6000Clinton 0+1.6
North Carolina00Trump0 +0.8000Biden +0.7000Clinton 0+3.0
Georgia000000000Trump0 +2.3000Biden +0.0000Trump000 +2.5
Florida000000000Trump0 +8.4000Biden +0.0000Clinton0 +0.5
Here's where Trump stands in the battleground states compared to 2020...
National:000000 Trump +7.7
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Wisconsin:00000 Trump +6.7
Pennsylvania:00 Trump +4.3
Ohio:0000000000 Trump +6.4
Michigan:000000 Trump +8.7
Arizona:0000000 Trump +3.7
Nevada:00000000 Trump +5.3
North Carolina: Trump +1.5
Georgia:0000000 Trump +2.3
Florida:0000000 Trump +8.4
And here's where Trump stands in the battleground states compared to 2016...
National:000000 Trump +4.8
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Wisconsin:00000 Trump +6.4
Pennsylvania:00
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Originally posted by SECOND:
Sen. JD Vance (R-Ohio) forcefully defended Donald Trump’s vow to use the U.S. military against certain Americans, a group Trump has repeatedly labeled “the enemy from within.”
Across several television interviews that aired Sunday, Vance also dismissed former Trump White House chief of staff John F. Kelly’s warnings that the former president meets the definition of a fascist. Vance described Kelly, a retired four-star Marine general, as a “disgruntled employee.”
He also disputed former vice president Mike Pence’s contention that Trump forced him to choose between loyalty to the Constitution and loyalty to Trump himself.
In a contentious exchange with CNN’s Jake Tapper, Vance said he would support the deployment of troops against what he and Trump have described as “left-wing lunatics,” which he argued is what Trump meant by “the enemy from within.”
He contended that Trump didn’t mean to include Democratic lawmakers such as Nancy Pelosi and Adam Schiff in the group of Americans against whom he would use military force — even though the former president has repeatedly used the phrase “left-wing lunatics” to describe both of them. Schiff served on the House select committee that investigated the Jan. 6, 2021, attack on the Capitol, and Pelosi was a longtime House speaker.
Tapper read Vance a quote Trump gave during an interview with podcaster Joe Rogan that aired Friday, during which Trump said “an enemy from within” American politics poses a bigger danger to the country than North Korean leader Kim Jong Un.
In a separate interview on “Meet the Press,” Vance said he agreed with Trump’s remark to Rogan that people like Schiff and Pelosi pose a greater threat to the United States than Russia or China do.
“What he said — and I do agree with this — what he said is that the biggest threat we have in our country, it’s not a foreign adversary, because we can handle these guys,” Vance said.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/vance-defends-trump-on-using-u
-s-military-against-americans/ar-AA1t1CJj
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
Nobody gives a shit about your opinion on this, dummy. Nor do they care about the Legacy Media lies on the topic.
You've been treating Trump as if he were the enemy within for over 8 years now. Everybody realizes it in 2024, and outside of your cult members and super low IQ voters, nobody is buying it anymore.
Tick Tock
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Trump will be fine.
He will also be your next President.
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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Nobody gives a shit about your opinion on this, dummy. Nor do they care about the Legacy Media lies on the topic.
You've been treating Trump as if he were the enemy within for over 8 years now. Everybody realizes it in 2024, and outside of your cult members and super low IQ voters, nobody is buying it anymore.
Tick Tock
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Trump will be fine.
He will also be your next President.
Indeed.
SECOND, you have no idea how little we care about what you and your "sources" blather. You (collectively) have been gaslighting America for years.
Trump!Russia!Kompromat!
Covid vaccine mandates.
Quid pro quo!
The "insurrection"
Mostly peaceful riots
Afghanistan "withdrawal"
Biden, the meat popsicle President
Hunter Biden laptop: Russian "disinformation"
The wonderful economy
Border security
"Defending democracy" in Ukraine
Russia, the evil/ clever/ weak/ powerful/ semicivilized/ (fill in the blank) nation
Trump the Nazi/ fascist/ rapist/ threat to democracy
Plus endless attempts to silence and demonize others
It matters not a whit that Kamala's puppeteers are trying (without success BTW) to make her sound rational and credible. After so many years of being lied to, do you think anyone with two neurons to rub together will believe her, or you, NOW?
AFA Trump is concerned, all I need to know is that you, collectively, are gibbering hysterically about a possible Trump win. That tells me more about Trump than anything else.
Bc, while we don't care at all what you think or say, you care very much about us. Shoe's on the other foot, bro. You know what you've done, and you should be afraid. Very afraid.
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"It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal." - Henry Kissinger
AMERICANS SUPPORT AMERICA
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Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
You (collectively) have been gaslighting America for years.
Trump!Russia!Kompromat!
Covid vaccine mandates.
Quid pro quo!
The "insurrection"
Mostly peaceful riots
Afghanistan "withdrawal"
Biden, the meat popsicle President
Hunter Biden laptop: Russian "disinformation"
The wonderful economy
Border security
"Defending democracy" in Ukraine
Russia, the evil/ clever/ weak/ powerful/ semicivilized/ (fill in the blank) nation
Trump the Nazi/ fascist/ rapist/ threat to democracy
Plus endless attempts to silence and demonize others
And that's just the short list. Probably only 80% of the Greatest Hits over the last 8 years.
It's awful. The Democrats are destroying the country, and the media and at least half of the celebrities are out there cheer leading for more of the same every day.
Life wasn't like this when I was growing up. People didn't hate each other like they do now. And the only thing that changed was the Liberal Brainwashing on college campuses which eventually lead to these brainwashed husks with high up management positions in every company with over 200 employees. Those not working directly for companies that manufacture our media still play a major financial role when it comes to advertising on these platforms.
We're still willing to be friendly with anybody. Meanwhile, people like Second want to see me dead and people like Ted just outright hate me. I've never done anything to deserve this level of hatred. From anybody.
I know we fling a lot of shit back and forth these days, but I invite anybody go back to when the animosity began. I wasn't the one throwing stones in the beginning. I was the guy who made the mistake of being truthful and honest about my life, and used this place as a sort of daily journal for going on 2 decades now. The both of them have taken things I didn't write for them about my history and bully me with them, and these days Second just makes up shit about me that isn't even true when I've left him a limitless ammo supply of truthful things he can beat me up with. Meanwhile, I'm the one at a complete disadvantage because nobody knows anything about Ted and Second is a pathological liar.
I've tried to lower the temperature in here several times before, but it doesn't work. I get another insult thrown in my face the very next post I make in another thread.
And I wasn't gloating when I wrote that "No Matter What" thread either. I'm fucking serious about that. ANYBODY who is sitting here on October 28th of 2024 still all tangled up with all the political bullshit in their heads is risking some real mental health damage on November 6th (or whatever day they finally finish counting ballots if it is close).
I really don't care one way or another. If Trump wins I get to play defense again for another 4 years. If he loses, I get to watch everything get worse for another 4 years on top of the last 4 and watch the Democrat party completely fall apart when the economy is so bad that nobody is listening to them anymore. They managed to patch that raft up well enough to still be sailing this close toward election day, but they'd never be able to do it for another 4 years. I'd give it 6 months after inauguration day and they'll finally admit we're in a recession. Hell... It's so bad right now I'm actually worried that 6 months after a Trump win it's still going to happen anyway.
Democrats are now perpetually in a lose/lose situation no matter what happens. They've painted themselves in so many corners there's no way to ever get out of it.
America is much stronger than any asshole on either side doing their best Chicken Little and screaming that it's the end of Democracy if the other side wins.
Let Kamala win. I really don't care. It'll be fine.
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No reason to believe Jack, signym and Trump will what?
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'No reason to believe Trump will stop lying' about election
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Originally posted by THG:
No reason to believe Jack, signym and Trump will what?
Read that sentence to yourself.
Now write it again in English so people know what you're talking about.
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Trump will be fine.
He will also be your next President.
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Why Major Newspapers Won’t Endorse Kamala Harris
By Robert Greene | October 28, 2024
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2024/10/non-endorsement-wash
ington-post-la-times/680423/
In this extremely tight presidential race, the big surprise of the fall campaign has turned out to be the failure of two major newspapers to deliver expected endorsements of Kamala Harris and against Donald Trump. With voting well under way in many states, the Los Angeles Times’ owner and The Washington Post’s publisher made inexcusably late announcements that they had become suddenly disenchanted with the entire notion of endorsing presidential candidates.
Withholding support for Harris after everything that both newspapers have reported about Trump’s manifest unfitness for office looks to me like plain cowardice. Although I served on the Los Angeles Times’ editorial board for 18 years, I believe one can reasonably question the value of endorsements. Still, the timing here invites speculation that these papers are preparing for a possible Trump victory by signaling a willingness to accommodate the coming administration rather than resist it.
At each paper, the editorial board had readied a draft or outline of a Harris endorsement and was waiting (and waiting and waiting) for final approval. On Wednesday, the L.A. Times editorials editor, Mariel Garza, told her team, including me, that the owner, Patrick Soon-Shiong, would not permit any endorsement to run. She then resigned in protest.
As thousands of angry Times readers canceled their subscriptions, Soon-Shiong publicly claimed on X to have asked the editorial board to write an analysis of “all the POSITIVE AND NEGATIVE policies by EACH candidate” during their respective White House tenures. But he said the board “chose to remain silent.”
Nonsense. We made no such choice. We were ready to endorse Harris, and Soon-Shiong’s post on X was the first time I or my fellow editorial writers had heard anything about a side-by-side analysis. Having been so casually thrown under the bus, I resigned Thursday. My colleague Karin Klein also announced that she would step down.
On Friday, the Post publisher and CEO, William Lewis, published a statement that his paper, too, would not endorse in the presidential race, now or ever again. A member of the Post editorial board resigned. Subscribers canceled.
Read: Don’t cancel The Washington Post. Cancel Amazon Prime.
Remember, this is the same news organization that, during the first Trump administration, adopted the slogan “Democracy dies in darkness.” It can also die in broad daylight. In this year’s race, a non-choice ignores Trump’s singular unfitness for office, demonstrated time and again through his dishonesty, his false claims to have won the 2020 election, his criminal convictions, his impeachable offenses, his race-baiting, his threats of retaliation against his opponents, and many other features that make him a danger to the nation.
Lewis and Soon-Shiong both explained that they wanted to let voters make their own decisions.
I hear some version of that irritating statement every four years, although it typically comes from readers who ask why editorial boards don’t just deliver the facts, the way news stories are supposed to, leaving judgment up to readers. Publishers and newspaper owners ought to know better.
Editorials express a newspaper’s institutional viewpoint, based on a clearly articulated set of values and expressed by logical (and sometimes emotional) arguments supported by evidence. In a process unique in journalism, they are shaped by daily back-and-forth discussions among editorial writers. The editorial board is separate from the newsroom, where reporters are supposed to keep their opinions to themselves.
Endorsements and other editorials are a lot like a lawyer’s closing argument to a jury after a long trial with numerous witnesses and exhibits. They remind readers of everything they’ve read, seen, and heard, and then they assemble it all in a persuasive presentation. They make
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Trump will be fine.
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Worst. Nazi. Rally. Ever.
https://pjmedia.com/matt-margolis/2024/10/27/worst-nazi-rally-ever-n49
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Well, the rally took place Sunday night, and boy, talk about the worst Nazi rally ever! In addition to the diverse speakers at the event, a black woman sang the national anthem.
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And clearly, Jews didn't get the memo that this was a "Nazi rally."
You two are a couple of fuckin' idiots.
America hates Democrats.
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Trump’s Madison Square Garden Rally Was a Pageant of Lowbrow Fascism, and It Wasn’t Even Funny
The Garden hosted a Nazi rally in 1939. Let’s remember that the lesser of two evils is still evil.
By Charles P. Pierce | Oct 28, 2024 11:53 AM EDT
https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/a62735267/trump-msg-ral
ly/
NEW YORK—And at the end of the day, all that was proven was that these people can’t even be fascists with any kind of dignity. In February 1939, with World War II having already begun at the Marco Polo Bridge two years earlier (although nobody knew it at the time) and seven months before the Wehrmacht rolled into Poland, there was a famous rally in the old Madison Square Garden held in concert with the German-American Bund and the isolationist America First crowd. The latter was insignificant. It was a Nazi rally.
And what a spectacle it was. There was a thirty-foot high portrait of the birthday boy, George Washington, framed by swastikas. (“The first American fascist,” declared Bund leader Fritz Kuhn). There were drum and bugle corps. There was thunder and lightning from the podium. There were twenty-two thousand people giving the Nazi salute on cue. And as a backhanded tribute, outside the Garden, one hundred thousand counter-protesters gathered ready to throw hands against the Nazis. One of them, a plumber named Isadore Greenbaum, actually made it to the stage, interrupting Kuhn’s speech and being beaten within an inch of his life by the OD, Kuhn’s equivalent of Hitler’s SS. Greenbaum survived his mauling but got arrested for disorderly conduct. There was a sense of the epic, both inside and outside the Garden. You could feel the world turning toward darkness.
On Sunday, at the current Madison Square Garden, there was Hulk Hogan, in a pink feather boa.
There was Dr. Phil, droning on and on about how the former president* was not a bully. There was Rudy Giuliani, half out of his mind, shouting about how the Democratic ticket was “in with the terrorists,” before perhaps going backstage to ask Robert Kennedy Jr. if he could crash on his couch for a few days. There was Mike Johnson, Speaker of the House of Representatives, talking about the Republican respect for the rule of law while, later, the candidate himself talked about how he and Johnson “had a little secret” that he would tell us about after the election. This could be pure bluff, or it could be the opening round in a Republican attempt to ratf*ck the certification process. In either case, the former president* put Johnson on the hook for good.
In 1939, there was Fritz Kuhn, inveighing against President “Rosenfelt” and Governor Thomas “Jewey,” to thunderous applause. In 2024, there was a podcast comedian named Tony Hinchcliffe, telling the audience that there was an island of garbage floating in the ocean and it was called “Puerto Rico,” to gales of laughter, and gaining the instant infamy that is the highest form of street cred in the MAGA movement. In 1939, at the conclusion of Kuhn’s speech, twenty thousand people chanted, “Free America!” In 2024, nineteen thousand people cheered along as the soulless husk that once was Tucker Carlson told them that Kamala Harris was going to be “the first Samoan-Malaysian, low-IQ former California prosecutor ever to be elected president.”
I do not minimize the danger inherent in next Tuesday’s election. I lived through one Trump administration*. I would prefer not to have to live through the live-action adventure Trump Unchained. But Lord above, these people are not only reckless, they are comical lightweights, right up to their Dear Leader. They are burlesque authoritarians. The 1939 rally was a Wagnerian opera in a world on the brink of war. This was a grandiose version of a drive-time radio talk show where Joe on the car phone worries that his son is going to come home from third grade as his daughter. In 1939, the Garden was filled with Americans who pledged their fealty to a leader half a world away who was already building his concentration camps. This was a gathering of Americans w
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