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91-DIVOC shows a strong California 'cases' inflection point at ~March 28, 2020. One and a half weeks before that March 19, 2020, California issued a stay at home order. A week before that April 03, 2020, the CDC and LACounty recommended all residents wear a mask in public.
91-DIVOC shows a strong California 'deaths' inflection point at ~April 12, 2020. Three weeks before that March 19, 2020, California issued a stay at home order. Two weeks before that April 03, 2020, the CDC and LACounty recommended all residents wear a mask in public.
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Quote:WHAT "free shit"? Show me in dollars where this "free shit" is going. Be specific.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:Quote:Germany and the other NATO nations, plus Japan, don't spend as much on the military because they have USA bases presumably "protecting them" from attack. But these are not the nations in danger of mass starvation, which was your concern.
SIX: They're not getting all the free shit that Western cultures give to them on any given usual day because we're not producing the free shit to give them anymore.
SIGNY:Another gross misunderstanding of how the world works.
SIX: No it's not. We've talked about this shit ad nauseam in the past and we're in agreement on it. You just forget that we used to agree about stuff.
The nations that are in danger of starvation are South Asia (India, Pakistan, Bangladesh), Southeast Asia (Vietnam, Myanmar, Cambodia, Indonesia, Malaysia etc), parts of the Mideast that the USA had destabilized (Syria, Iran, Iraq), all of Africa, and all of Central and South America.
WHAT "free shit" does the USA give them?Quote:
SIGNY: Poor nations around the world don't get "free shit" from the USA and the EU. The reason why they're poor is because the USA and the EU have predatory relationships with them.
SIX: No shit. But I'm sure the fact that you and I know this is going to look great on the tombstone for the mass graves of millions of people dying of hunger because the free shit train stopped immediately overnight.
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I already gave you the link.
Tens of millions of people are already starving and third world nations will be facing "starvation of a biblical proportion" due directly to developed nations overreaction to a cold.
Don't use the fact that I didn't provide a link every time we talk about this as a cop out so you can pretend it isn't happening.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Which thread was that link in? I don't recall a link and you post roughly a dozen posts a day. WAY too many to dig through.
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You're joking, right?
First post on the page you're looking at right now, Karen.
I only sent it to you specifically no less than 3 times the other day when you kept changing the subject.
Yanno, the article that never said India but you kept claiming did.
lol...
I even put it in an edit to make sure that it carried over to this page, and said that I felt it was important to do so because you both have amnesia now.
Quote:
EDIT: Oh, and here's the original article with a link. I feel that I have to post it again since we're on a new page and you both seem to have amnesia now from the stay at home orders.
https://people.com/food/world-face-multiple-famines-biblical-proportio
ns-coronavirus-crisis/
Quote:
UN Leader Says the World Could Face 'Famines of Biblical Proportions' amid Coronavirus Crisis
“While dealing with a COVID-19 pandemic, we are also on the brink of a hunger pandemic,” David Beasley, the director of the UN World Food Program warned
As the world continues to battle the coronavirus pandemic, the United Nations is warning that without action, the world is at risk of numerous famines “of biblical proportions” in the near future.
He explained that famines could be seen “in about three dozen countries,” ten of which already have more than 1 million people on the verge of starvation.
“There is also a real danger that more people could potentially die from the economic impact of COVID-19 than from the virus itself,” he warned.
Why don't you read it again and tell me more about India. And then pretend tomorrow that you never read it, again.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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JACK:
the obligatory trolling and snark
Quote:https://people.com/food/world-face-multiple-famines-biblical-proportio
First post on the page you're looking at right now, Karen.
ns-coronavirus-crisis/
It says nothing about the US giving the world free stuff. Nothing at all.
Quote:I didn't respond because it was pointless. It didn't say anything about anybody giving starving nations free stuff in the past. It didn't address your claim that people will starve BECAUSE nations that used to give them free stuff in the past have suddenly stopped. It says nothing about nations starving because the US specifically will stop giving them free stuff. In fact - to reiterate - it says nothing about the US giving starving nations free stuff. To be even more excruciatingly detailed, your article says nothing about the US at all.
I only sent it to you specifically no less than 3 times the other day when you kept changing the subject.
Quote:I never claimed it did. And I never claimed it said anything about Indiana, either.
Yanno, the article that never said India but you kept claiming did.
I brought up India, because India is facing hunger RIGHT NOW. And it's not because they're not getting 'free stuff'. It's because there's no one to harvest the spring crops. And even if there were, there're no markets to sell the crops in. And it's also facing starvation down the road as lack of sales will lead to lack of money will lead to lack of planting the next season of crops.
https://news.yahoo.com/indias-farmers-face-shortage-harvest-091822471.
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http://www.ipsnews.net/2020/04/covid-19-indias-harvests-also-locked/
https://www.voanews.com/science-health/coronavirus-outbreak/indian-far
mers-struggle-harvest-sell-crops-during-covid
https://in.reuters.com/article/health-coronavirus-india-harvests-idINK
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https://in.news.yahoo.com/diminished-agricultural-selling-may-now-1201
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Quote:I could, but why be redundant.
Why don't you read it again and tell me more about India.
Why don't YOU read it again and tell me more about how people around the globe will starve just because the US stopped giving them free stuff?
And why don't you tell us all again about how the nations of the world are doing what they're doing because they're terrified about what the "karens" in the US think?
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Quote:SIX, there is NOTHING IN THE ARTICLE ABOUT THE GRAVY TRAIN COMING TO A SUDDEN HALT BECAUSE OF COVID-19. THERE IS NOTHING IN THERE ABOUT THE USA AT ALL. YOUR READING COMPREHENSION HAS GOTTEN AS BAD AS GSTRING'S.
SIX: They're not getting all the free shit that Western cultures give to them on any given usual day because we're not producing the free shit to give them anymore.
SIGNY:Another gross misunderstanding of how the world works.
SIX: No it's not. We've talked about this shit ad nauseam in the past and we're in agreement on it. You just forget that we used to agree about stuff.
SIGNY: Germany and the other NATO nations, plus Japan, don't spend as much on the military because they have USA bases presumably "protecting them" from attack. But these are not the nations in danger of mass starvation, which was your concern.
The nations that are in danger of starvation are South Asia (India, Pakistan, Bangladesh), Southeast Asia (Vietnam, Myanmar, Cambodia, Indonesia, Malaysia etc), parts of the Mideast that the USA had destabilized (Syria, Iran, Iraq), all of Africa, and all of Central and South America.
WHAT "free shit" does the USA give them?
SIX: No shit. But I'm sure the fact that you and I know this is going to look great on the tombstone for the mass graves of millions of people dying of hunger because the free shit train stopped immediately overnight.
SIX:I already gave you the link.
Tens of millions of people are already starving and third world nations will be facing "starvation of a biblical proportion" due directly to developed nations overreaction to a cold.
Don't use the fact that I didn't provide a link every time we talk about this as a cop out so you can pretend it isn't happening.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
I put it in caps hoping it would catch your short attention span.
YOU were the one who extended the article waaaaaay beyond truthfulness. Go back, re-read it, and stop making shit up, m'kay?
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Meanwhile, in the REAL real world ... looking at Sweden as the bellweather of "doing nothing"... despite its natural advantages of inbuilt social isolation, where many people live by themselves in their own houses and work from home, SWEDEN comes in third in the "new deaths per week per MM people" category, lower only than Ireland and Belgium.
I see that Sweden's policy is a resounding success. /snark
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Important things to note:
More extensive data indicates remdesivir might be a useful treatment in COIVD-19. Earlier data indicated no positive effect, but more extensive data now indicates about 31% of patients with severe COVID-19 improved. I think that the reason why improvement was so limited was because many people with severe COVID-19 had already entered into cytokine storm, which became the primary pathology. I believe that administering the drug early, along with positioning and O2 monitoring and administration, could be an important part of COVID-19 treatment that'll save many lives and prevent long-term organ damage in survivors.
Moderna Therapeutics is starting human trials on a SARS-COV-2 vaccine, of the novel mRNA type. The company has been working on coronavirus vaccines for decades, and therefore was able to modify an existing vaccine to match SARS-COV-2 genetics in 42 days after the genetic code was published. Safety data has already been generated for other versions of mRNA type coronavirus vaccines. This vaccine proved effective in preventing infection in monkeys over 6 days. Much more work is needed to be done on dosing, effectiveness, and length of protection in people, but the company is already geared up to produce millions of vaccines.
In the meantime
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Quote:SIX, there is NOTHING IN THE ARTICLE ABOUT THE GRAVY TRAIN COMING TO A SUDDEN HALT BECAUSE OF COVID-19. THERE IS NOTHING IN THERE ABOUT THE USA AT ALL. YOUR READING COMPREHENSION HAS GOTTEN AS BAD AS GSTRING'S.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:Quote:
SIX: They're not getting all the free shit that Western cultures give to them on any given usual day because we're not producing the free shit to give them anymore.
SIGNY:Another gross misunderstanding of how the world works.
SIX: No it's not. We've talked about this shit ad nauseam in the past and we're in agreement on it. You just forget that we used to agree about stuff.
SIGNY: Germany and the other NATO nations, plus Japan, don't spend as much on the military because they have USA bases presumably "protecting them" from attack. But these are not the nations in danger of mass starvation, which was your concern.
The nations that are in danger of starvation are South Asia (India, Pakistan, Bangladesh), Southeast Asia (Vietnam, Myanmar, Cambodia, Indonesia, Malaysia etc), parts of the Mideast that the USA had destabilized (Syria, Iran, Iraq), all of Africa, and all of Central and South America.
WHAT "free shit" does the USA give them?
SIX: No shit. But I'm sure the fact that you and I know this is going to look great on the tombstone for the mass graves of millions of people dying of hunger because the free shit train stopped immediately overnight.
SIX:I already gave you the link.
Tens of millions of people are already starving and third world nations will be facing "starvation of a biblical proportion" due directly to developed nations overreaction to a cold.
Don't use the fact that I didn't provide a link every time we talk about this as a cop out so you can pretend it isn't happening.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
I put it in caps hoping it would catch your short attention span.
YOU were the one who extended the article waaaaaay beyond truthfulness. Go back, re-read it, and stop making shit up, m'kay?
Article link: /world-face-multiple-famines-biblical-proportions-coronavirus-crisis/
Article title: UN Leader Says the World Could Face 'Famines of Biblical Proportions' amid Coronavirus Crisis
Article sub title: “While dealing with a COVID-19 pandemic, we are also on the brink of a hunger pandemic,” David Beasley, the director of the UN World Food Program warned
Quote from Director of UN World Food Program: “There is also a real danger that more people could potentially die from the economic impact of COVID-19 than from the virus itself,” he warned.
Further down the article: The WFP already estimated that in 2020, nearly 135 million people would be facing starvation.
With the addition of the coronavirus pandemic, Beasley is sounding the alarm that there could be an additional 130 million people “pushed to the brink of starvation.”
Last paragraph of the article: “The truth is, we do not have time on our side,” he continued to warn. “I do believe that with our expertise and partnerships, we can bring together the teams and the programs necessary to make certain the COVID-19 pandemic does not become a humanitarian and food crisis catastrophe.”
I don't know what article you read, but it certainly wasn't the one I linked. The whole fucking article says exactly what I said it says. It HEAVILY implies that the actions taken to prevent the spread of The Coomph will be directly responsible for the starvation deaths of some 130 million people if we don't open stuff back up soon.
And I never said it was just the US shutting down alone causing this (and neither did the article). It's the entire civilized Western World shutting down and ceasing aid overnight.
Again, I'll state that we shouldn't be doing that in the first place. But when the spigit is shut off immediately, people will starve al
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SIX, WHERE DOES IT SAY ANYTHING ABOUT THE "FREE SHIT" GRAVY TRAIN FROM THE WEST COMING TO A HALT BEING THE CAUSE OF STARVATION?
IT DOESN'T
Many nations at risk from starvation, as the article points out, are ALREADY at risk from starvation. THEY THEMSELVES HAVE THEIR OWN LOCKDOWNS. India has a lockdown. Malaysia has a lockdown. Iran has a lockdown. Phlippines has a lockdown. Ecuador. Vietnam. South Africa. Colombia. Argentina. Morocco. Kenya. Thailand is under curfew. And more.
What?
You thought "lockdowns" only happened in the panicky, developed, karen-filled, risk-averse west???
These nations at risk of starvation have their own covid-19 policies. They are at risk because of their own economic status and their own policies, not because of anything the west is doing because of covid.
Many of those nations, with or without lockdown, are experiencing such disruption from mass deaths that their own internal economies are put under strain. On top of that, they have (predatory) western loans to service and (predatory) contracts with the west to fill.
The statement is a giant donation request. They just want MORE money from the west.
Yanno, it would help if you got your head outta your ass on this topic.
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