' The truth - We will go extinct, very soon.'
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There is blame to be placed for all the inaction.
We've done that.
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"Congress is still controlled by Koch puppets. Climate deniers."
The office of president is a bully pulpit - a place from which to change the dynamic, not bow to it. If Obama really thought it was important he would have campaigned for it while in office, at least in his second term.
And, while I 100% disagree with the Koch agenda, one thing I have to say is that the brothers put (a lot of) their money (over a long time) where their mouth is. They truly committed to realizing their plans. Compared to democrats who couldn't even be bothered to put their mouth where their mouth is.
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Ludicrous.
Climate denial is 100% a Republican thing, and always has been.
The only party that ever tried to do anything was the Dems (and the Greens, of course, but like the Dems, they had no power or influence).
Pure climate denial propaganda, coupled with powerless, ineffectual, broke-ass opposition is what did this.
We should have been working on this since Exxon's own scientists told them what was going to happen 40 years ago. They instead decided that profit > survival of the planet's species.
Look at Republicans letting hunters kill whatever they want, today.
It's like they want everything to die. Maybe they're lizard people?
They don't seem to have a prefrontal cortex.
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"powerless, ineffectual, broke-ass opposition"
Naw - it's intentional misleading lipservice (and a lot of times not even that) to cover up the fact that they're going along with it. The only one who really stepped up was Al Gore, and look how the democratic party left him twisting in the wind all by his lonesome.
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Quote:"We are seemingly in denial. It's time to break that taboo and have serious conversations about what we do now."
Originally posted by rue:
"powerless, ineffectual, broke-ass opposition"
Naw - it's intentional misleading lipservice (and a lot of times not even that) to cover up the fact that they're going along with it. The only one who really stepped up was Al Gore, and look how the democratic party left him twisting in the wind all by his lonesome.
www.vice.com/en_us/article/vbwpdb/the-climate-change-paper-so-depressi
ng-its-sending-people-to-therapy
The Climate Change Paper So Depressing It's Sending People to Therapy:
On average, three people read an academic paper. At least 100,000 have read this—and a lot of them haven't taken it very well.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Originally posted by rue:
I just am extremely irritated by our resident idiots who think that Trump caused the entire global warming problem all by himself in just the last 2 years. REALLY? What kind of an idiotic nutcase do you have to be to think that?
? So I guess no one here actually said they think that Trump caused the entire global warming problem all by himself in just the last 2 years, right? You just made it up?
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"People who don't pay attention to it, or who are not experts, probably haven't read these scientific reports, rely on their leaders," he said. "On the Republican side, you're seeing the leader of the GOP, Donald Trump, coming out and saying this is a hoax, this is a Chinese hoax."
Seventy-one percent of Democrats polled said climate change was a "serious problem" that required action to be taken, while 15 percent of Republicans said the same, according to the report.
https://thehill.com/hilltv/what-americas-thinking/432707-analyst-says-
gop-dems-are-most-divided-on-climate-change
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Originally posted by second:
Seventy-one percent of Democrats polled said climate change was a "serious problem" that required action to be taken, while 15 percent of Republicans said the same, according to the report.
So 71 percent of one side believes what their side's leaders say, while 85 percent of another side believes what their side's leaders say. Sounds about even.
No mention of people who haven't picked a side though, huh?
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Quote:The so-called Independents? The article said: "Forty-seven percent of independent respondents said they would call climate change a serious problem and indicated that action needed to be taken." It is pretty typical of an Independent to say "Am I for? Am I against? I'll flip a coin because I don't want to be predictable." Therefore they came out almost 50/50. It would have been exactly 50% but there is always that 6% who pick: "I don't know".
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:Quote:
Originally posted by second:
Seventy-one percent of Democrats polled said climate change was a "serious problem" that required action to be taken, while 15 percent of Republicans said the same, according to the report.
So 71 percent of one side believes what their side's leaders say, while 85 percent of another side believes what their side's leaders say. Sounds about even.
No mention of people who haven't picked a side though, huh?
Do Right, Be Right. :)
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Quote:Gore could step-up because he was not running for office in the 21st Century. Elected and serving Democratic politicians have to bend to the will of the voters and Democratic voters don't want to be inconvenienced by Gore's "An Inconvenient Truth". How about Republican voters? Truth has to bite their ass to get their attention. How do I know this? I can look at Europe to see it.
Originally posted by rue:
The only one who really stepped up was Al Gore, and look how the democratic party left him twisting in the wind all by his lonesome.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/An_Inconvenient_Truth
The United States has reduced per-capita carbon emissions slightly more than Europe, small thanks goes to the Democratic party and to me for being in the natural gas business instead of coal. In Europe, by contrast to the US, there is no equivalent to the Republican Party. Nobody denies that climate change is real, and there’s no monolithic political opposition to doing something about it.
In other words, it doesn’t seem as if either the Republican Party or America’s dysfunctional politics is really the whole problem. So what is? It must be something common to both Europe and the US, and the obvious answer is that we all live in democracies. Roughly speaking, our governments do what the public wants, and the public doesn’t have much interest in reducing carbon emissions. Oh, we say we do, and we’ll support minor things like ETS or CAFE that have a barely noticeable effect on us. We’ll support solar power — if it produces electricity nearly as cheaply as coal. We’ll all buy electric cars — but only when the price comes down and the batteries get better. We’ll check out the energy star rating the next time we buy a new refrigerator. And that’s about it.
As for the rest of the world, I won’t even show you the chart. It’s too depressing. Outside of Europe and the US, carbon emissions are just going steadily up, up, up. Even the Great Recession barely made a dent.
More at www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2019/02/heres-my-super-abridged-green-n
ew-deal/
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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