' The truth - We will go extinct, very soon.'

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REAVERFAN

Friday, March 15, 2019 7:18 AM

10 million years needed to recover from mass extinction
https://phys.org/news/2012-05-million-years-recover-mass-extinction.ht
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Life was nearly wiped out 250 million years ago, with only 10 per cent of plants and animals surviving. It is currently much debated how life recovered from this cataclysm, whether quickly or slowly.

REAVERFAN

Friday, March 15, 2019 7:27 AM

https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/evolution/library/03/2/l_032_03.html

These recovery intervals average about 10 million years.

Whether extraterrestrial impacts or drastic climate changes are to blame, mass extinctions are evolutionary events that alter the history of life. Which species or groups survive a mass extinction, while not entirely random, often has little to do with the factors that promote survival during normal times.

Mass extinctions are ecological disasters. Yet they also create evolutionary opportunities by removing once-dominant groups.

6IXSTRINGJACK

Friday, March 15, 2019 6:04 PM

Sounds like it doesn't really matter then.

If we didn't screw it all up, we were just living on borrowed time until the next football arena sized meteor wiped everything out again anyhow.

Oh well. I'm not going to lose any sleep.

Do try to enjoy your day, Marcos.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

REAVERFAN

Saturday, March 16, 2019 9:19 PM

Arctic now locked into devastating temperature rise, UN report says
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/north/arctic-warming-locked-in-1.505654
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The Arctic is now locked into a destructive degree of climate change regardless of what measures are taken to halt global greenhouse gas emissions.

This conclusion comes out of a new UN environment report on the Arctic, which describes scenarios where Arctic winter temperatures increase by three to five degrees by 2050 compared to 1986-2005 levels, and by five to nine degrees by 2080. This temperature rise is expected to happen regardless of the success or failure of the Paris Agreement on climate change.

This would, according to the report, devastate the region while "unleashing sea level rises worldwide."

They leave out what this is going to do to plants and animals.

REAVERFAN

Sunday, March 17, 2019 5:32 PM

The climate strike is a source for hope – but new research shows it might be too late
In the short to medium term, there are dark questions about the political future. In the long term, the chances for human survival are very slim
https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/climate-strike-protests-arctic-me
lting-a8825936.html?utm_source=reddit.com

The end of the world is no longer a fanciful hypothesis. It is the most plausible scenario.

The loss of ice-cover reduces albedo, wherein solar radiation is reflected back into space. More dark water surface absorbs heat rather than deflecting it. Thawing permafrost releases warming methane into the atmosphere. The warming of the oceans, coupled with their ongoing carbonic acidification due to carbon emissions, will kill off a lot of marine life. The last of the remaining coral will be bleached, thus destroying one of the most biologically productive areas of the planet. It will also kill much of the phytoplankton that produce about half of the oxygen we breathe. The simple act of breathing will most likely become far more effortful, far more of a struggle, in the future.

RUE

Tuesday, March 19, 2019 2:19 AM

fire in Houston
http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=62997

I was musing on the regulatory approach to mitigating our planet's destruction.

Some places seem to have done it quite successfully, at least in some areas. For example, with the US as a per capita benchmark 15.7 tons CO2 per year, the EU average is 7, Denmark is 5.9, France is 5.2, Sweden is 5.1, and Switzerland is 4.7.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_carbon_dioxide_emis
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But these places I believe have not only specifically focused on reductions, but also have particular factors that make this possible, like smaller size and a lack of heavy industry (or even a lack of fossil fuels like France, that led it to focus on nuclear energy).

When I look at the US, I think that most regulatory efforts have gone to merely curbing extreme excesses. The Cuyahoga River had to burn for at least the 13th time in 1969 before people began to think 'maybe rivers shouldn't burn' and the government was pushed into action.
So for example, looking at the naphtha fire in Houston - the EPA monitors ambient toxics. The DOT regulates transport by common carrier. OSHA regulates workplace safety. There are state and local regulations in place to try and prevent the very worst problems, but only the very worst.

And the petroleum/ petrochemical industry is a global behemoth. Petrochemicals alone are an annual 300million tons of product industry Global oil demand is 100million barrels per day.
And every well, every pipeline, every tanker, every storage tank, every underground fuel tank, every physical transfer from one to the next - leaks - in immeasurable ways.
There is simply no way to maintain the global industry at that size without leaving a huge global footprint. There's simply no way to regulate away the damage on a global scale. It's simply too entrenched in the nature and scale of the business.
And the same case could be made about the plastics industry, the agro-chemicals industry, the fishing industry, and so on.
As long as industries can profit by strip-mining the planet - and if their profit-motive has any say it will be indefinitely - we'll continue to destroy the planet.
http://www.meti.go.jp/english/press/2018/1019_003.html
https://www.iea.org/oilmarketreport/omrpublic/

REAVERFAN

Tuesday, March 19, 2019 2:55 AM

Salvini supporters are publicly calling for Greta Thunberg to be assassinated
https://infinite-coincidence.com/2019/03/18/salvini-supporters-are-cal
ling-for-greta-thunberg-to-be-assassinated/

This article (in Italian) details the comments made by several pro-Salvini personaggi, some of them prominent in the Italian media, over the last few days. The writer and TV personality Maria Giovanna Maglie called for the Swedish teenage activist to be “mown down by a car”, while the former pop star Rita Pavone called her “a character from a horror movie”. Diego Fusaro, a political philosopher whose self-definition as a “Marxist” should be taken with un grandissimo pezzo di sale, accused the 16-year-old of being part of a plot by the “cosmopolitan elite” (hem hem). The well-known climate liar and founder of the daily newspaper ‘Il Foglio’, Giuliano Ferrara, tweeted “I don’t want to be accused of pedophobia, but I detest this idolatrous figure Greta and her disgusting braids, and the false world of lies she weaves round herself”. The hashtag #nogreta was trending among supporters of Salvini’s neofascist Lega party and its fellow travellers/coalition partners in the Five Star Movement, some of whom still, bizarrely, style themselves as environmentalists and even, in some outlandish cases, anti-racists. Salvini himself joined in with a typically puerile Trump-style tweet welcoming global warming as it will mean more “herbs”, a comment which will delight those among the Five Star Movement who aren’t in outright denial about Salvini’s being in power. A Five Star supporter I spoke to on Friday confirmed what I’d heard elsewhere, in that he felt that Salvini and the Lega “weren’t really” in control of the Government and that the self-confessed fan of Mussolini should be given “more time” to implement his agenda, which includes forcibly evicting and deporting hundreds of thousands of neri, protecting the Mafia by removing police protection from journalists who investigate them and building a global far-right alliance with Putin, Trump, Le Pen, and all the other names far too depressing to mention.

RUE

Tuesday, March 19, 2019 3:19 AM

I honestly don't care what people mouth. The fact is that so-called environmentalists don't walk their talk. NO ONE is going to address global petroleum /petrochemicals /plastics /agrochemicals /fishing /mining /lumbering /steel /agriculture ...

btw, of the two coalition ruling parties in Italy, Five Star is on a rapid decline while The League is rising quickly.

REAVERFAN

Tuesday, March 19, 2019 3:24 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by rue:
I honestly don't care what people mouth. The fact is that so-called environmentalists don't walk their talk.

Oh, really?

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btw, of the two coalition ruling parties in Italy, Five Star is on a rapid decline while The League is rising quickly.

Your fascist heroes are going strong.

RUE

Tuesday, March 19, 2019 3:48 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by rue:
I honestly don't care what people mouth. The fact is that so-called environmentalists don't walk their talk.

Quote:
Originally posted by reaverfan:
Oh, really?

Show me Obama's greenhouse gas reductions. Or Norway's. Find me Germany's.
Better yet, show me the overwhelming effect of western liberal influence in this list of greenhouse gas reduction superstars:
Rank Country Greenhouse Gas Emission Changes Since 1990
1 Ivory Coast -78%
2 Suriname -75%
3 Iceland -75%
4 Moldova -70%
5 Guyana -63%
6 Papua New Guinea -62%
7 Georgia -62%
8 Latvia -59%
9 Kyrgyzstan -59%
10 Estonia -58%

https://www.worldatlas.com/articles/countries-with-the-greatest-decrea
ses-in-greenhouse-emissions-over-the-last-26-years.html

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btw, of the two coalition ruling parties in Italy, Five Star is on a rapid decline while The League is rising quickly.

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Your fascist heroes are going strong.

You mean I can't REPORT the results of ITALIAN POLLS without being considered a supporter? Did being corrected on a fact tweak you so much you had to get personal?

You have not a shred of honesty, do you?

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