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Wednesday, November 30, 2011 1:40 AM

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Originally posted by Fremdfirma:

Ergo, their track record of disasters gives me NO faith in them whatever.


To use a phrase from a Walter Hill film I saw in my teens in 1979, "Fuckin' A!"

(What movie, & who said it?)


The laughing Chrisisall

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Wednesday, November 30, 2011 1:42 AM

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Originally posted by 1kiki:
To use one example to label ALL studies as 'proving nothing' isn't very scientific.

He's not labeling all studies, just the potential and/or actual FAITH in studies- there's a difference.


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Wednesday, November 30, 2011 1:45 AM

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Originally posted by canttakesky:
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Originally posted by Storymark:
Hmm, the science seems to say there is no connection.

Yeah, you can call it "science."

More accurately, the pseudoscience seems to say there is no connection.

Here is an example of why those studies prove nothing.

http://freedom2question.blogspot.com/2009/05/what-is-pseudoscience.



I stopped reading when why they said "As an example, I will use a study frequently cited by government and health authorities as further "scientific" evidence that thimerosal (mercury) in vaccines do not cause autism."

Thimerosal is not mercury. It is Ethyl(2-mercaptobenzoato-(2-)-O,S)
mercurate(1-) sodium, a mercury containing compound. That is like calling table salt, chlorine.

I do not fear God, I fear the ignorance of man.

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Wednesday, November 30, 2011 1:47 AM

"He's not labeling all studies ..."

No, YOU are labeling all studies. "Here is an example of why those studies prove nothing."

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Wednesday, November 30, 2011 1:51 AM

Hello,

I think the real factor at work here is this-

Many citizenry of this land no longer trust the country, nor the businesses which operate in this country, nor any institution created with a supposed concern for their welfare. This mistrust is so deep that it is easier for some to assume that a palliative is actually a poison if an authority claims the reverse. This is seen as preferable rather than believe the statements of government, corporations, or researchers whose motives are obscure and perceived as sinister.

The doubt runs so deep that it becomes a perverse twist upon The Emperor's New Clothes. If we see a clothed politician or businessman or their endorsing scientists, we assume that they are naked. So much does our mistrust command our senses, that any fact labeled by such people falls into question even against the evidence of our eyes. The people have been fooled before, and on so many occasions, that a declaration of the fact of gravity will have people buying parachutes, and a declaration about the spherical nature of the world will have people discarding their globes and atlases.

This is the problem. It is a profound loss of faith in the many multitudes of people that we rely upon for the truths we can't personally verify.

And most tragic of all is that this: They have earned this mistrust. They purchased this mistrust in regular payments of blood and betrayal.

It is a situation where we all lose.

--Anthony


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Wednesday, November 30, 2011 1:54 AM

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Originally posted by 1kiki:
"He's not labeling all studies ..."

No, YOU are labeling all studies. "Here is an example of why those studies prove nothing."

Oh, gloves off, Fuck you, asshole.
Read what you need to into things.

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Wednesday, November 30, 2011 2:01 AM

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Originally posted by AnthonyT:
The people have been fooled before, and on so many occasions, that a declaration of the fact of gravity will have people buying parachutes, and a declaration about the spherical nature of the world will have people discarding their globes and atlases.


Yeah, and this is why we need to find the truth between the lines for ourselves. Not every scientific study is a set of lies, nor is every one to be believed in like Gospel.

Unfortunately, not every person has the time to be a driven self-educated doctor/lawyer/sociologist- what have you.

BUT, no questioning inevitably leads to no hugs & no puppies.


The laughing Chrisisall

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Wednesday, November 30, 2011 2:13 AM

"Oh, gloves off, Fuck you, asshole.
Read what you need to into things."

Hmmm. All I did was point out that CTSky made a very global statement. What she posted was not 'a few studies' or 'some studies', or 'many', or 'the majority', or 'most', or 'nearly all', or 'with few exceptions' - but 'those studies', without exception.

And in the previous post I pointed out that without addressing the other studies that seem credible and indicate no connection between autism and thimerosal, she really didn't back up her claim.

What I was TRYING to point out was that there is a lot of evidence that's trending one way, which seems a pretty non-controversial position.

But OK. Be pissed off about it. It actually doesn't matter to me though it seems pretty silly.

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Wednesday, November 30, 2011 2:16 AM

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Originally posted by 1kiki:


What I was TRYING to point out was that there is a lot of evidence that's trending one way,

Be trendy, it actually doesn't matter to me though it seems pretty silly.

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Wednesday, November 30, 2011 2:19 AM

And like all believers, you have THE TRUTH. Because apparently, the process of investigation and result is meaningless to you.

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