450 posts IS a worse crime than wanting to kill us .
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UPDATED: Friday, May 22, 2009 14:59
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Posted by Fremdfirma:
If I was a non-US Country watching the insanity of the past six years, you're damn right I'd want a fucking nuke, if for no other reason than pointing it at Washington would force them to negotiate instead of steamrollering my country on false pretenses and turning it into a fucking corpse filled wasteland.
Yup, been sayin' it for years - if you WANT a nuke, we'll invade you; if you've GOT a nuke... let's talk.
And then we wonder why all these "rogue" nations go rogue and start chasing after nukes in the first place! We've already told them they don't get a seat at the adult table 'til they've got the goodies.
Mike
Build a man a fire and he'll be warm for a day...
Set a man on fire and he'll be warm for the rest of his life.
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Originally posted by RIPWash:
Distorting things does, indeed, seem to be your strong suit, my friend. LOL
I think there's a lot of that going around... What I was trying to say was that you can see things pretty much any way you want, depending on how you look at them, and from WHERE you're looking. And any of those vantage points can change your perception of the event.
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"I think you SEE more radical Muslims, because you're attuned to look out for what you disagree with, and you don't tend to pay as much attention to what you DO agree with."
You point things out of me that are just as true of yourself and others on this board and I hope you see that.
Apologies. That was NOT aimed at "you". I worded it poorly if you took it that way. What I meant is that ONE will see what ONE is more attuned to see. That includes me, too, of course. I lean left (ya think?), so I tend to see FoxNews as hard-right. Other's lean right, and see Fox as "the only REAL" news source out there, and see literally every other news source as far-left leaning.
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Radicals, IMO, are the kind that say "You will do as I say and beleive as I do or you will suffer the consequences (i.e. death)." You're right that I don't see Christians doing that as much as I see Muslims doing that.
I am pretty sure that Dubya did indeed tell Saddam that "you will do as I say or you will suffer the consequences (i.e., death)." He seems to believe that this was his mission from god.
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The problem with some of this stuff is that people will say/do anything to gain power. If it's to say they're a Christian to initially gain control then so be it. They'll lie and say they're devout Christians even though they don't really beleive it. Hitler and Mousilini are probably in that camp. Take the movie "V for Vendetta" for example. It was supposedly a "Neocon" government that V wanted to overthrow, but there was NOTHING Christian about that government's actions. They probably used that platform to gain power and then distorted it to the extreme.
True. And with some of this stuff, there are - ahem - certain people who will also say and do anything to try to KEEP someone from gaining power. "Obama's a Muslim!" comes to mind as one such example...
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You can't tell me that Dubya was an extremist who "took over" the U.S. That's preposterous. There was an election, he won. Twice. Plain and simple. You don't agree with his actions and think he's BSing about being a Christian, I don't begrudge your right to say that. You have every right to. He won the first election and every single recount in FL ended up in his favor. I remember that quite clearly. Just because the Supreme Court had to step in because Gore wouldn't accept that reality does not mean Bush took over the country.
I don't recall saying that Bush "took over" in the literal sense, although his brand of neoconservativism did indeed hijack the country and its agenda, just as surely as those Muslims hijacked those airliners. And more Americans have died as a result of Bush's actions than died in the 9/11 attacks.
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Yes, this goes for every world leader - You have to judge people by their actions, NOT just their words. If someone says they're a Christian but acts in a way that doesn't seem very Christian to you, you kinda have to question it. You can press them for an answer and they may tell you without a doubt they ARE Christian. But in the end they have only ONE being to answer to for that. And it's not you or me.
But then, if someone acts like a terrorist and then claims to be Muslim, don't you have to question THAT, too? It seems to me like you're more than willing to accept the "Muslim-ness" of terrorists, but rather less likely to accept the "Christian-ness" of our very own home-grown varieties.
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Look. We're having a nice discussion on this and I do appreciate you not calling Christianity a "BS" religion like you did in another thread. But you're not goingNOTIFY: Y | REPLY | REPLY WITH QUOTE | PERMALINK | TOP | HOME
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Except again, the US has used it, and possibly would again if it were considered to be a viable solution to any given conflict or scenario.
Just curious, do you think slavery will make a comeback in the U.S.?
No idea. Are you trying to say that dropping bombs on Japan was like owning slaves?
Not at all.
You postulated that because the U.S. used atomic weapons before, they could use them again if it was deemed necessary by the 'powers that be'. The U.S. has a history of slavery, and segregation was still occuring at the same time as WW2. If deemed necessary by the 'powers that be' do you think the U.S. would revert back to segregation or even slavery? Because the precedent was set does that mean the option is always on the table?
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Originally posted by Kwicko:
Yup, just as there are a lot of people who say they're Muslim only because they know they hate the Jews and the Christians, but know nothing more of their religion than that. If that's your basis for calling them radical Muslims, I'm sorry to say that's a false pretense as well.
Did not know you were Muslim.
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Originally posted by Kwicko:
Yup, just as there are a lot of people who say they're Muslim only because they know they hate the Jews and the Christians, but know nothing more of their religion than that. If that's your basis for calling them radical Muslims, I'm sorry to say that's a false pretense as well.
Did not know you were Muslim.
Did not know you were illiterate.
yourself.
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Originally posted by Kwicko:
Did not know you were illiterate.
I'm sorry, what was that?
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BIGDAMNNOBODY
I truly don't know why you post. Every time you do, you em-BARE-ASS yourself.
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Originally posted by rue:
BIGDAMNNOBODY
I truly don't know why you post. Every time you do, you em-BARE-ASS yourself.
I guess I didn't want you to be the only one.
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Originally posted by rue:
W - O - R - D - S
Which mean nothing to the illiterate yes?
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