The notion of patriotism
POSTED BY: Khyron
UPDATED: Friday, October 24, 2025 19:53
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the bibles tangeable.. where are your laws written??
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On paper?
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So you need to have it written down somewhere to know that murder is wrong?
The best argument against democracy is a five minute conversation with the average voter.
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Originally posted by Fletch2:
The only rights you have are the ones that you are willing to fight for.
once again, i agree; but what is it inside us that fights for this freedom? God created us free, and men seek to enslave us
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The people willing to do the fighting, bleeding, killing and dying for your rights are it's garentors,
i agree.. they are fighting for rights God gave man, before he was denied by man, and man became his own god
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something is only a God given right if God is willing to get involved to support them.
his prophets, Jesus.. what do you think that was about? you either misunderstand the relationship between men and God, or the concept of free will
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Since history shows that God does not enforce them then they can not be God given rights.
should God run your life? maybe you misunderstand Gods charachter
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God is like the UN in that regard, good at high minded pronouncements not so great at the follow through.
no.. the UN is like lucifer, imposing its secular will upon sovereign beings of the world
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You also missed completely the part about the bible. If the Bible is the absolute word of God and if in it he gives advice about the correct treatment of slaves then he is condoning slavery.
first off, show me where, specifically? when you look up slavery in the ancient world, specifically in regards to the OT, it shows that many of these 'slaves', especially domestically, were just forms of indentured servants or estranged or indebted villagers. * am i condoning that? no.. but lets try to keep 1500bc in perspective
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It makes no difference who invented it, or if man made it up along with pagan gods. This is the word of the big guy all he has to say is "hey Israelites I made every man free, slavery displeases God, stop it."
show me the instances of Israel owning slaves.. and lets examine whether this was at the behest of God, or against his will; so we can know whether the context of your accusation is correct. God didnt establish government, man did.. but people will read it and assume otherwise, because its written down in the bible
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He doesn't because freedom was never part of the deal, God wants you to take an active part in making your life and the lives of the people around you better, he's hands off, he gave you the rules, hell he even died for your sorry ass, he just never gave you a free ride.
you completely missed the point- God believes we have rights! it is those rights that you are fighting for! if there are no God given rights, for which rights are you fighting?
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You are free because men like you bleed and died to make you free and to keep you free. You have a right to life because anyone wishing you harm knows that your fellow citizens will punish anyone that tries to kill you.
and i never said otherwise.. so now that thats out of the way
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Originally posted by Khyron:
So you need to have it written down somewhere to know that murder is wrong?
The best argument against democracy is a five minute conversation with the average voter.
Stalin, Hitler, Mao.. apparently no one told these people it was wrong; they justified perfectly within their own sick consciences
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Originally posted by antimason:
the bibles tangeable..
So are Harry Potter books.
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and so's the communist manifesto, wich literally uses the platform athiest, evolutionist amd communist. which of those do you identify with?
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All of them.
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Quote:Want me to list some of the events where people were murdered in the name of Christianity?
Originally posted by antimason:
Stalin, Hitler, Mao.. apparently no one told these people it was wrong; they justified perfectly within their own sick consciences
Because apparently the good book didn't tell the Christians that murdering other people is wrong. Or they justified it perfectly within their own sick consciences.
The best argument against democracy is a five minute conversation with the average voter.
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go for it... and lets discuss the ultimate point: WHO DECIDES WHAT IS RIGHT?? we have the ten commanments and Jesus teachings, whether people believe it all or not. on the hand, what standards do atheists uphold?
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