The notion of patriotism
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if thats true, then i am unaware, youll have to show me the scriptures so i can study them.. i was under the impression from John(REv 22:18) that anyone who adds or takes away to the prophecies in his book will not be spared by the plagues of the end times
Antimason,
After the book of life is opened, and God disposes of the unworthy, the remainder will be invited to live an idyllic life free from pain, death, or suffering. God said that he would make everything new. People will walk in the presence of God. I suggest that this will represent rather profound changes to our understanding of the world, and our place in it.
Whatever God ultimately wants from his children, he will no doubt let us know once the events in Revelations have come to their conclusion.
And I trust that when God writes the next chapter in his eternal tale, he will be spared his own plagues. I would presume that the admonishment against adding anything to revelations is for humans, not God himself.
--Anthony
"Liberty must not be purchased at the cost of Humanity." --Captain Robert Henner
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Regarding the hypothesis of a benevolent god:
http://dwindlinginunbelief.blogspot.com/2007/01/how-many-has-god-kille
d-complete-list.html
The best argument against democracy is a five minute conversation with the average voter.
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Khyron,
Excellent resource. Though I am especially concerned with the times when God asks his own followers to attack and massacre others.
It's important for people who believe in the Biblical God to accept everything that he is, and to go into their worship eyes-open. We assume that everything God does serves a greater good. We operate under belief that God's will is good, even though we can't always see the goodness.
As I see it, there are two 'leaps of faith' involved in worshipping God. The first is the belief that God exists.
The second is the acceptance that God is Good.
And the second is perhaps even more profound than the first.
--Anthony
"Liberty must not be purchased at the cost of Humanity." --Captain Robert Henner
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The story that got me was called "And Then There Were None" by Eric Frank Russell. I'm thinking you may have even read this at some point, but if you haven't it's a must read. And look at this.... I even found a link to the full story so you can read it at your leisure:
*Too busy laughing his ass off to comment*
-Frem
It cannot be said enough, those who do not learn from history, are doomed to endlessly repeat it
PS- for a MUCH longer take on the concept of this story... try THIS book.
http://www.amazon.com/STAINLESS-STEEL-DRAFTED-Stainless-Paperback/dp/0
553273078
The entire series would amuse you, I think.
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Originally posted by Fremdfirma:Quote:
The story that got me was called "And Then There Were None" by Eric Frank Russell. I'm thinking you may have even read this at some point, but if you haven't it's a must read. And look at this.... I even found a link to the full story so you can read it at your leisure:
*Too busy laughing his ass off to comment*
-Frem
It cannot be said enough, those who do not learn from history, are doomed to endlessly repeat it
PS- for a MUCH longer take on the concept of this story... try THIS book.
http://www.amazon.com/STAINLESS-STEEL-DRAFTED-Stainless-Paperback/dp/0
553273078
The entire series would amuse you, I think.
I haven't even heard the Stainless steel rat series referred to since I was in High School. I can't believe it's still in print!
--Anthony
"Liberty must not be purchased at the cost of Humanity." --Captain Robert Henner
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You have no God given rights. If you did then no mere human being could ever take them from you. What rights you have are those rights that other people choose to acknowledge, which is why they are mutable and liable to change without warning.
The day someone writes you a parking ticket and is struck down with a thunderbolt I may amend my opinion, but when you have genocide taking place with no sign of divine intervention I'm inclined to think that you don't have a "God Given right to life."
Rights, any rights, only exist if someone enforces them, and it is the power than enforces them that gets to claim them. So if a guy blows your brains out while robbing a liquor store and he gets taken out with a thunderbolt then that was a God given right to life. If he is taken out by your fellow citizens via a lethal injection, then your "right to life" and the retribution if that right is violated, come from your state.
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Antimason,
Well, at the top of my head, without turning a page, I can recall an instance where 1) a man was asked to murder his son
ok, but did he follow through(was he asked to follow through)? its a little hypocritical, since people usually overlook the fact that human sacrifice was common practice among 'pagans' to their 'gods' before Abraham was even chosen by God. to go a step further, human sacrifice was never even a part of judeo/christianity, whereas almost all of the pagan culters did so to their dieties, in gruesome ways throughout history
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2) a tribe of God's chosen people were asked to invade a city belonging to a rival tribe and murder every man, woman, child, and infant.
youll need to be more specific
most people who read the bible forget that Gen 6 literally says that 'fallen angels came unto the daughters of men, and had offspring, both before and after the 'flood'. if you understand the bible at all, you would recognize that these angels ARE the deities of the pagan cultures, which rebelled with lucifer to enslave mankind, and whos hybrid offspring were among men on earth; so keep that in mind when you read that God sent Israel out to destroy the Canaanites or Anakim(who were 'descendants' of the nephilim). it is this influence that is behind the secret socieites today and their occult worship.. but no one wants to connect the dots- as if history is not linear in anyyyway
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Originally posted by Fletch2:
You have no God given rights. If you did then no mere human being could ever take them from you.
do you have rights at all then?
if those 'rights' are granted by men, then they are not 'rights' at all, but privelages; a 'right' does not require permission from any one
if God exists, then we were granted the right to life(and everything therein) when he created us.. therefore we have certain inalienable 'rights'. if no God exists, then you have no 'rights' because you are subject to the consenses of men, who can rationalize away any matter of the conscience, no matter how profane
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What rights you have are those rights that other people choose to acknowledge, which is why they are mutable and liable to change without warning.
do you not see that without a 'God' you are a slave? when government limits your grand children to 1 per family, or you lose the right to private property to the state, realize it is because you have no 'rights', you are subject to the will of men, who are in the end accountable to no one. its no coincidence that secular humanism(gnostic athiesm)was considered by Marx to be synonymous with communism, and a neccessary tool to dehumanize the human spirit
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Originally posted by AnthonyT:
Antimason,
Whatever God ultimately wants from his children, he will no doubt let us know once the events in Revelations have come to their conclusion.
before we jump the gun, we should consider prophecies already given by GOd, which would be signs of the end of the age; one in particular, the system of the beast, also known as the GLOBAL GOVERNMENT of antichrist, comes to mind, since its right in front of our eyes. some of us around here actually make an effor tto expose the NWO, rather then pretend that these luciferian societies dont actually exist... and arent behind institutions like the UN
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18 US Code § 2381. Treason:
Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason and shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.
Arrest all the traitors. Let a martial law tribunal find them guilty. Then kill them. Let Satan sort em out.
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