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Batman Shooting

POSTED BY: ANTHONYT
UPDATED: Monday, August 13, 2012 04:15
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KWICKO

Tuesday, July 24, 2012 1:57 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by chrisisall:
While I'm not a fan of censorship, I too would like to see PN muzzled for a bit here.
Sorry dude, you're just not concise enough at the moment.

Chrisisall, wearing a frilly Mal thing on his head, and ready to shoot unarmed, full-body armoured Operatives

At the moment?!

"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero

"I've not watched the video either, or am incapable of intellectually dealing with the substance of this thread, so I'll instead act like a juvenile and claim victory..." - Rappy

RIONAEIRE

Tuesday, July 24, 2012 2:05 AM

Automatics were banned for a while but everyone could still own normal guns. I wouldn't mind if that ban was re upped.

This is a tragedy and its really awful. J at my day center I help at on Mon., who keeps up on current affairs quite well, is really scared about this since she's going to the movies tomorrow with her sister. I told her that she didn't need to worry, that it wouldn't happen twice like that.

I have Kathy Bates on speed dial, mwa ha ha ha (in exaggeratedly evil voice)

"A completely coherant River means writers don't deliver" KatTaya.

PIRATENEWS

Tuesday, July 24, 2012 2:18 AM

There's no Joker in Dark Knight Rises, sheeple keep Eyes Wide Shut
http://piratenews-tv.blogspot.com/2012/07/dark-knight-rising-for-new-w
orld-order.html

Quote:
"We need to brainwash people to think about guns in a vastly different way."
-US attorney general Eric Holder, Massmurdering Butcher of Operation Fast and Furious and the OK City Bombing, CSPAN2, 1985

1KIKI

Tuesday, July 24, 2012 2:50 AM

SignyM: I swear, if we really knew what was being decided about us in our absence, and how hosed the government is prepared to let us be, we would string them up.

PIRATENEWS

Tuesday, July 24, 2012 3:27 AM

ABC News Misinterpreted Statement Made by Mother of Accused Colorado Shooter
http://www.infowars.com/abc-news-misinterpreted-statement-made-by-moth
er-of-accused-colorado-shooter/

Another Colorado Mass Killing In Aurora Victim Disarmament Zone Prevented In April By Man With Gun
http://www.infowars.com/another-aurora-colorado-mass-killing-prevented
-in-april-by-man-with-gun/

Colonel Ed O'Connell: Blackwater is "whacking people like crazy" for Obama and the CIA (in Colorado?)
http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2012/07/the-terrifying-bac
kground-of-the-man-who-ran-a-cia-assassination-unit/259856/

Quote:
"We need to brainwash people to think about guns in a vastly different way."
-US attorney general Eric Holder, Massmurdering Butcher of Operation Fast and Furious and the OK City Bombing, CSPAN2, 1985

"I didn't shoot nobody! No Sir! I'm just a patsy!!!"
-Lee Harvey Oswald in Operation Northwoods

WISHIMAY

Tuesday, July 24, 2012 4:21 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by REDREAD:
These weapons are military weapons. They belong in accountable hands, controlled hands and trained hands.

Trained hands....mebbe. Accountable and controlled.....mebbe not so much.
Not to join the gun pornists or anything....but somehow the idea of just the military having access to infinite ammo doesn't make me all that comfy. True they usually just shoot themselves, but not always...

Piratenews. Please calm down. And go for a walk or something, yer bound to throw a clot at this rate.

I realize being without FFF for a weekend makes everbody a bit jumpy, but I think you forgot some meds somewhere.

And thank you for once again showing us that just about ANYTHING you post makes the rest of our innane drivel days look just a little bit smarter...

1KIKI

Tuesday, July 24, 2012 5:30 AM

Just out of curiosity, are you one of those people who skips past the vote and goes directly to armed insurrection/ survivalism?

SignyM: I swear, if we really knew what was being decided about us in our absence, and how hosed the government is prepared to let us be, we would string them up.

PEACEKEEPER

Tuesday, July 24, 2012 6:30 AM

It is IMPOSSIBLE to have a debate of this nature without taking a look at the US gun law.Listen, I'm not saying that we're perfect in the UK. We have had our fair share of nutters (Hungerford and Dunblane to name but two).But after these incidents, we took a good look at how we could tighten the regulations. You HAVE to.Its a no-brainer.
Look, even before any gun control was introduced in the UK, statistics note that less than one crime in 100,000 involved a firearm. Since gun control,(which wasn't fully implemented until the mid 60's, you'll be surprised to hear), that has dropped to 0.6 per 100,000.
The US, having no such control in place, has always had a ratio of about 3.5 to every 100,000. And that figure is set to rise. It has a worse figure than China, Mexico and Brazil. And these are nations where the likes of PN would call dictatorships or backward nations!!!!
Your gun law stems from the 1700's, where you had no Armed Force to speak of and the only way you could defend yourselves was by the formation of Militia.TIMES HAVE MOVED ON, FOLKS. Take a look at the School Zone Act of 1990, where it was made illegal to carry a weapon in the vicinity of a seat of junior learning. Your High Court OVERTURNED it because it was a civil infringement. HOW FUCKING MIND NUMBINGLY RIDICULOUS IS THAT!!!
It is ingrained in your culture that deeply, that you cant see common sense for the fucking ammo!!!!
So long as you keep up this ludicrous charade about your civil rights being affected because you arent allowed to carry a bloody weapon, the longer your citizens will be mowed down by lunatics in cinemas.

With the grace of age, commander, we learn to accept.

ANTHONYT

Tuesday, July 24, 2012 2:51 PM

Quote:
Take a look at the School Zone Act of 1990, where it was made illegal to carry a weapon in the vicinity of a seat of junior learning. Your High Court OVERTURNED it because it was a civil infringement. HOW FUCKING MIND NUMBINGLY RIDICULOUS IS THAT!!!

Quote:
It is ingrained in your culture that deeply, that you cant see common sense for the fucking ammo!!!!
So long as you keep up this ludicrous charade about your civil rights being affected because you arent allowed to carry a bloody weapon, the longer your citizens will be mowed down by lunatics in cinemas.

Hello,

These two opinions are consistent because their author does not want anyone to have the right to carry weapons.

For those of us who believe in such a right, the school zone act was a mistake because its radius included private homes adjacent to the school as well as public thoroughfares that pass near the school, thus subtracting gun rights from people in their homes and people moving through the area.

I believe that there will always be lunatics who go on killing sprees, and I do not feel compelled to surrender my right to a weapon to prevent that rare danger.

As long as there are people who campaign for the outright banning of weapons or the right to carry them, It will be difficult to find constructive compromises or common sense laws passed on the matter.

--Anthony

Note to Self:
Raptor - woman testifying about birth control is a slut (the term fits.)
Six - Wow, isn't Niki quite the CUNT? And, yes, I spell that in all caps....
Wulf - Niki is a stupid fucking bitch who should hurry up and die.

“The stupid neither forgive nor forget; the naive forgive and forget; the wise forgive but do not forget.” -Thomas Szasz

NIKI2

Tuesday, July 24, 2012 3:12 PM

Gawd, my scrolling fingers is sore! I wish to hell PN would busy himself elsewhere with posting his idiotic, insane propaganda. If wishes were horses...

I, too, am sick to death of how the famous "Second Amendment" is used to justify people having the "right" to own/use weapons which are intended for nothing more than killing a lot of people in a very short time. If the founding fatheres knew how that amendment had been twisted into a few using it to verride the rights of everyone else, they'd spin in their graves. In fact they probably ARE. It was never their intent; the amendment was clearly written to say so, but that last part has been so prostituted that the amendment does FAR more harm than good.

As to the military having weapons the public does not, that's a paranoid and irrelevant argument, in my opinion. Insurrection finds a way, whatever weapons the military may have, and if we have an insurrection, not all the assault weapons in the world will actually help those who are collecting them. Aside from which, it's an absurd argument on the face of it and merely reflects, to me, a way to create a false sense of security, to feel more empowered at a time when we feel increasingly helpless against TPTB. There are other, more effective ways to deal with the situation our country is in at this time, as well as the fact that I don't believe any effort by the populace to change things will be effective with guns.

That aside, as I dismiss "self-protection" as a valid argument for assault weapons, too The fact remains: Those who like guns will always see it as black and white, either "they want to take away all our guns" or "I have the Second-Amendment right to own whatever I want". The fact that it's not black and white will never get through to them. Every time something like this happens, you get the usual argument you got right here: that if others in the audience only owned guns, they'd have somehow prevented the slaughter. Just the fact that this argument TOTALLY ignores that the gunman was covered literally from head to toe with bullet-proof paraphenalia, and tossed a grenade which only he was unaffected by, isn't even considered. All that comes out is the usual, blind, talking point that if EVERYONE were armed, things would be "safer". Obviously, even with so many owning guns, that's not true.

The REAL fact is that the NRA, in collusion with gun manufacturers and their money, WANT you to buy as many guns and as much ammunition as they can con you into buying, so in effect you're just a pawn in their efforts to make a profit. The fact that the NRA will accept NO curb whatsoever on gun ownership, that they utilized ALEC to write the "stand-your-ground" law SPECIFICALLY to encourage more people to buy guns, clearly shows their intent. Those who love their little toys and enjoy stroking them and cleaning them and bragging about them will never believe that there is any limitation on what someone should own, so attempting to debate them is the worst form of pissing into the wind.

There is no common sense reason to own assault weapons or mags with huge amounts of ammunition, simple as that. The argument made in that quote says it all. But the NRA is all-powerful, and has many in their employ who write talking points gun lovers eat up and regurgitate. The gun manufacturers depend on this, fund it and support it, and they are the ONLY ones who reap the benefits...aside from maniacs who take their anger/frustration out on innocent people.

It will keep happening; it will never be contained in any way because bucking the NRA is politically impossible and even more of a "death pill" than attacking SSI or anything else. Unless their power can be lessened (which won't ever happen as far as I can see), we will never have any useful form of gun control. Whenever we try, the next person to come along nullifies th