Batman Shooting

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NIKI2

Wednesday, July 25, 2012 1:49 PM

Amusingly, if sadly, here's another expression of the NRA-induced hysterical blindness:

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Firearms sales are surging in the wake of the Colorado movie theater massacre as buyers express fears that anti-gun politicians may use the shootings to seek new restrictions on owning weapons.

In Colorado, the site of Friday's shooting that killed 12 and injured dozens of others, gun sales jumped in the three days that followed. The state approved background checks for 2,887 people who wanted to purchase a firearm — 25 percent more than the average Friday to Sunday period in 2012 and 43 percent more than the same interval the week prior.

Dick Rutan, owner of Gunners Den in suburban Arvada, Colo., said requests for concealed-weapon training certification "are off the hook." His four-hour course in gun safety, required for certification for a concealed-weapons permit in Colorado, has drawn double the interest since Friday.

"What they're saying is: They want to have a chance. They want to have the ability to protect themselves and their families if they are in a situation like what happened in the movie theater," Rutan said.

Day-to-day gun sales frequently fluctuate, but the numbers also look strong outside of Colorado, too.

Seattle's home county, King, saw nearly twice as many requests for concealed pistol licenses than the same timeframe a year ago. Florida recorded 2,386 background checks on Friday, up 14 percent from the week before. Oregon sales on Friday and Saturday were up 11 percent over the month prior. Four days of checks in California were up 10 percent month-to-month.

During the past decade, June and July have consistently been the slowest months for gun sales, according to FBI data.

Jay Wallace, who owns Adventure Outdoors in Smyrna, Ga., found that his sales on Saturday were up 300 percent from the same day a year ago — making it one of the best Saturdays his business has ever had. He said customers are often afraid when there's a gun-related tragedy that some lawmakers might try and push through an anti-gun agenda.

"We shouldn't let one sick individual make us forget and lose sight of freedoms in this country," Wallace said.

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6IXSTRINGJACK

Wednesday, July 25, 2012 2:16 PM

Good idea 'bout the stress guys feel Niki.

Even in a world that we're all "supposedly" equal and paychecks are evening out, guys do feel that pressure much different than girls do. Even in Jr. High or High School, as violent as girls are becoming today, they still have "their girls" to go back to and do some "team healing". Guys don't have that. Save for maybe one good friend or brother who also would have taken a licking with you, men who lose those battles are left alone to retreat to the corner and lick their own wounds.


We all find our outlets for that pressure and, thankfully, most of us are considerate and civilized enough to inflict only pain upon ourselves rather than dish it out on completely innocent and uninvolved people like this asshole did.

I'm ABSOLUTELY sure that NO study will come out to verify my suspicions, but if this kid had enough money to buy a pack and a half of Marlboro's a day at 9 bucks a pack, he probably wouldn't have killed 12 people and wounded another 59 at a midnight showing.

I know the non-smoking Left wingers HATE cigarettes, but in their blind hatred I think they're potentially missing a BIG part of the violent future we're in for with the status quo. I'm just saying, this bullshit would NEVER have happened in the 70s to the Mid-90s back when smokes 1 to 2.5 bucks a pack.


As for not being "lumped in" with a "genre", I feel the same way about the online "sexual deviant" database. Fortunately, the mother of the 17 year old girl I was dating when I was 21 loved me and nothing came of it, but her step-father hated me and never refrained from showing it (I think he had some sick thing for his step-daughter, but can't prove it). If he had his way, even ten years later, I would be committing a crime even if I unwillingly drove down the block where a school was. The online databases don't distinguish the "crime" they only say one was convicted of "sexual deviance". Of course, if I were on that database and somebody were to look me up, their first thought could be that I might have raped a skull of an underage prostitute. Guilty until proven innocent when only half-truths or less are available to the public for their own "safety".

Why is there no "sub-categories" online for this type of thing? There is probably a BILLION AND ONE things you could end up on this registry for, but the "end user" looking people up just sees that you're on it and is left with their imagination to wonder why you're on it.







About the NRA.... I'm not a member.

Actually, to be honest with you, I've NEVER fired a real gun..... just a bb gun.

I own a sweet Colt compact 45 that I've recognized in several TV shows after I got it. I was afraid of it until my Army bro taught me how to operate it and clean it. I still, to this day, have never fired a gun.

I'm glad nobody ever tried to rob my old apartment when I lived there because that bullet would have gone through him at close range and probably the next 3 layers of drywall through my neighbor's apartment before stopping mid-brick of the outer wall.





All that being said, isn't it spooky how "normal" this kid looks in the photo they showed everyone?

I always said that I'd smile for any police photo I had to take, but it's never happened. But the photo of this guy wasn't a police photo. It looks like they got his yearbook photo from last year.

If we weren't talking about the horrible act he committed and he was just posting his face in the General Discussions, Phoenix Rose would be complementing on his smile now, instead of what he did.







I know what the detractors say about guns and I realize there was not any visability or sanity after the tear gas was thrown, but I wish I had a shot there.

I am going to learn how not to be afraid of my gun.

I am going to learn how to fire and clean my gun.

I am going to learn how to hit the target I'm aiming for with my gun.




It amazes me that outside of IL and DC you can get a conceal and carry permit. I grew up in IL most

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NIKI2

Wednesday, July 25, 2012 2:26 PM

Ying, apparently you're not the first person to think about this. Thought you might find this interesting:

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There’s a predictable cycle of mourning and recrimination that follows a massacre like the shootings last week in Aurora, Colo. First come the calls for unity and flags flown at half-mast. Then the national fissures appear: the gun lobby stiffens its spine as gun-control advocates make their case. Psychologists parse the shooter’s background, looking for signs of mental illness or family disarray. Politicians point fingers about “society run amok” and “cultures of despair.”

We’ve been down this path so many times, yet we keep missing the elephant in the room: How many of the worst mass murderers in American history were women? None. This is not to suggest that women are never violent, and there are even the rare cases of female serial killers. But why aren’t we talking about the glaring reality that acts of mass murder (and, indeed, every single kind of violence) are overwhelmingly perpetrated by men? Pointing out that fact may seem politically incorrect or irrelevant, but our silence about the huge gender disparity of such violence may be costing lives.

Imagine for a moment if a deadly disease disproportionately affected men. Not a disease like prostate cancer that can only affect men, but a condition prevalent in the general population that was vastly more likely to strike men. Violence is such a condition: men are nine to 10 times more likely to commit homicide and more likely to be its victims. The numbers are sobering when we look at young men. In the U.S., for example, young white males (between ages 14 and 24) represent only 6% of the population, yet commit almost 17% of the murders. For young black males, the numbers are even more alarming (1.2% of the population accounting for 27% of all homicides). Together, these two groups of young men make up just 7% of the population and 45% of the homicides. And, overall, 90% of all violent offenders are male, as are nearly 80% of the victims.

We shouldn’t need Steven Pinker, one of the world’s leading psychologists and the author of the book, The Better Angels of Our Nature, to tell us the obvious: “Though the exact ratios vary, in every society, it is the males more than the females who play-fight, bully, fight for real, kill for real, rape, start wars and fight in wars.” The silence around the gendering of violence is as inexplicable as it is indefensible. Sex differences in other medical and social conditions — such as anorexia nervosa, lupus, migraines, depression and learning disabilities — are routinely analyzed along these lines.

For millennia, human society has struggled with what to do with young men’s violent tendencies. Many cultures stage elaborate initiation ceremonies, presided over by older men, which help channel youthful aggression into productive social roles. But in contemporary society, we have trouble talking about the obvious: the transition from boy to man is a risky endeavor, and there can be a lot of collateral damage.

Skeptics will claim that the perpetrators of horrific acts like the Aurora shootings are such aberrations that we can hardly build public policy around their evil behavior. But it’s a mistake to view mass murderers as incomprehensible freaks of nature. For example, we know that the young men who go on murderous rampages are not always sociopathic monsters but, rather, sometimes more or less “regular” men who suffered from crushing depression and suicidal ideation.

No reasonable person can imagine how despair could possibly lead to premeditated mass homicide. However, the fact that depression is so frequently accompanied by violent rage in young men — a rage usually, but not solely, directed at themselves — is something we need to acknowledge and understand.

Our refusal to talk about violence as a public-health problem with known (or knowable) risk factors keeps us from helping the young men who are at most risk and, of course

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