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Let's Try to Offend Kwicko!

POSTED BY: Kwicko
UPDATED: Sunday, June 24, 2012 22:49
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WISHIMAY

Tuesday, June 19, 2012 6:04 AM

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Originally posted by Kwicko:
It's not what we SAY that can or hurt, but rather what we DO.

Only to a few. Much of the world is not like that. I.E. Hubbs has one a them bumper stickers that says something like that "COEXIST" bumper sticker will get you thrown in jail and beaten in a few countries, and beheaded in a few more...

Remember, 75% of the world is made up of absolute fucking morons, looking for a chance to act on their moronic impulses... Quite a few in this country, too.

1KIKI

Tuesday, June 19, 2012 7:04 AM

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Originally posted by Kwicko:

I find that the latter often gives the orders to the former. If there's killing to be done, it's easier for corporate figures to have political figures give the order than it is for them to do the work themselves. They've even outsources slaughter to the lowest bidder.

But corporations give us so much more :

Pacific plastic patch

Singapore pollution

Macando oil spill

diseased Gulf of Mexico fish

3rd world slum

1KIKI

Tuesday, June 19, 2012 10:05 AM

I copied this bit from my favorite advice columnist, Cary Tennis who writes for Salon:

There are structural inequities at the heart of your dissatisfaction.

Maybe what you meant when you said you feel “guilty” about your job was that you feel compassion for all the other people who are being screwed over in this country while you’re not being screwed over quite as visibly as they are.

Well, good morning and smell the coffee! Corporate America is not set up to make workers happy. It was set up to make other people happy — investors and CEOs and people you will never see but who will benefit from your laborious unhappiness.

That is what we celebrate in America; that is what we celebrate when we celebrate wealth. We celebrate a system in which the powerful are legally entitled to exploit and mistreat others so they can become rich. That’s what we celebrate! It’s not personal. It’s business.

... believe me, the system is not going to gladly give you what you want. You are going to have to fight for it. Whether it is expanded human rights, more free time, economic and social justice, environmental protections, a good education for your child, a safe neighborhood: You are going to have to fight for these things.

This doesn’t mean you have to quit your job and camp out at Zuccotti Park (though that wouldn’t be such a bad idea if you didn’t have the baby). (p.s. apropos of nothing, isn’t it cool that Zuccotti Park is on Liberty Street?) It just means don’t blame yourself for feeling bad when you’re being mistreated by an economic system that is fundamentally set up to mistreat you.

BYTEMITE

Tuesday, June 19, 2012 2:04 PM

1kiki: Not necessarily. The US military and it's contractors are some of the biggest polluters in existence. Incinerators and weapons tests? Chemical dumping? Foreign labour and resource exploitation? They do it all.

And they aren't even required to clean up on the lands they vacate in the US, they call them Formerly Used Defense Sites and they're given to the US Army Corp of Engineers for indefinite "management" while the residents start to get sick (usually cancer) as the land gets developed.

KWICKO

Tuesday, June 19, 2012 6:15 PM

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Originally posted by BYTEMITE:
1kiki: Not necessarily. The US military and it's contractors are some of the biggest polluters in existence. Incinerators and weapons tests? Chemical dumping? Foreign labour and resource exploitation? They do it all.

And they aren't even required to clean up on the lands they vacate in the US, they call them Formerly Used Defense Sites and they're given to the US Army Corp of Engineers for indefinite "management" while the residents start to get sick (usually cancer) as the land gets developed.

Yup. This one's an eye-opener:

http://www.amazon.com/Full-Body-Burden-Growing-Nuclear/dp/030795563X

Listened to an interview with the author yesterday, and it was pretty freaking chilling.

"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero

"I've not watched the video either, or am incapable of intellectually dealing with the substance of this thread, so I'll instead act like a juvenile and claim victory..." - Rappy

BIGDAMNNOBODY

Tuesday, June 19, 2012 6:30 PM

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Originally posted by Kwicko:
I'm not sure what it says about "us" in general, or as a species, but for me, it illustrates quite vividly the idea that words cannot offend me; it's the actions which count. It's not what we SAY that can help or hurt, but rather what we DO.

So what exactly has Auraptor done, which actions specifically, do you find so offensive?

KWICKO

Tuesday, June 19, 2012 11:13 PM

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Originally posted by BIGDAMNNOBODY:

So what exactly has Auraptor done, which actions specifically, do you find so offensive?

What is it, exactly, that makes you think Rappy has offended me?

Amused me, certainly; been the butt of many jokes, most assuredly; but offended me? Hardly.

"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero

"I've not watched the video either, or am incapable of intellectually dealing with the substance of this thread, so I'll instead act like a juvenile and claim victory..." - Rappy

BIGDAMNNOBODY

Wednesday, June 20, 2012 1:42 AM

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Originally posted by Kwicko:
What is it, exactly, that makes you think Rappy has offended me?

Amused me, certainly; been the butt of many jokes, most assuredly; but offended me? Hardly.

Just assumed your vigourous attacks against both Auraptors positions and his character where based on something more substantive than simple amusement.

ANTHONYT

Wednesday, June 20, 2012 2:21 AM

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Originally posted by BigDamnNobody:
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Originally posted by Kwicko:
What is it, exactly, that makes you think Rappy has offended me?

Amused me, certainly; been the butt of many jokes, most assuredly; but offended me? Hardly.

Just assumed your vigourous attacks against both Auraptors positions and his character where based on something more substantive than simple amusement.

Hello,

I actually assumed the same thing. Attacking someone for amusement is not the sort of behavior I would have associated with Mike.

--Anthony

Note to Self:
Raptor - women who want to control their reproductive processes are sluts.
Wulf - Niki is a stupid fucking bitch who should hurry up and die.
Never forget what these men are.
“The stupid neither forgive nor forget; the naive forgive and forget; the wise forgive but do not forget.” -Thomas Szasz

KWICKO

Wednesday, June 20, 2012 3:47 AM

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Originally posted by BigDamnNobody:
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Originally posted by Kwicko:
What is it, exactly, that makes you think Rappy has offended me?

Amused me, certainly; been the butt of many jokes, most assuredly; but offended me? Hardly.

Just assumed your vigourous attacks against both Auraptors positions and his character where based on something more substantive than simple amusement.

Ah, but you've posted before that you yourself will attack me for no other reason than that I rub you the wrong way.

Are you saying it's okay when you do it, but not when others do it? Do you run the rest of your life by the same kinds of double standards?

I spend some of my time correcting Rappy's many, many, many errors of fact, misstatements, disinformation, and outright lies, so that others won't accept what he says as fact without at least thinking it through.

If you find his constant lying to be offensive, then by all means, be offended. I find it to be his normal state of being, but you can call it what you will. I promise not to be offended. ;)

"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero

"I've not watched the video either, or am incapable of intellectually dealing with the substance of this thread, so I'll instead act like a juvenile and claim victory..." - Rappy