Let's Try to Offend Kwicko!

POSTED BY: Kwicko
UPDATED: Sunday, June 24, 2012 22:49
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Originally posted by BYTEMITE:
Chris: You forget, all of the male characters on Firefly were rapists who represented male power, Serenity is a symbol of phallic worship, and the relationship between the black characters and white characters was a call-back to civil war era slavery.

Discuss.

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Huh?

Zoey is so masculine in the series I expect her to have man parts under her britches.

Simon is so effeminate that I don't know what would surprise me more... Kaylee popping the question to him, or Simon finding his first to pleasure with his behind her back.....

The fact that Jayne didn't ever pose a sexual threat to any female on the ship is proof enough of this. If anyone was going to go all "instinctual" it was Jayne.



As for every black character in the Firefly/Serenity universe being a complete nut-job and/or dick... I can't explain that away. I didn't write it.... I just watched it.

Much luv, Operator and Jubal....

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Huh?

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http://users.livejournal.com/_allecto_/34718.html

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As for every black character in the Firefly/Serenity universe being a complete nut-job and/or dick... I can't explain that away. I didn't write it.... I just watched it.

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...Yeah, I've actually noticed that with Book's backstory and Jubal and the Operative, Joss is leaning quite a lot on the scary black man archetype. Fair observation.

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To take that one step further Niki, Book was always my favorite character, and the fact that he had a meaningless "token" death in the movie REALLY pissed me off.

As great a world as Joss creates in his stories, and as "dynamic" he'd like to make his sycophants believe his characters are, as far as Firefly went, Book was the only character who was "static". Outside of the tv show and movie, I've never exposed myself to anything else in the 'verse, but as awesome as the show was, his was the only character I felt was capable of change.


I'm probably just jaded now. I'm about 2 1/2 seasons deep into "The Vampire Diaries".

If you're looking for a story with plenty of plot twists and static characters and longing for redemption, I can't think of another series on network TV today that would better fit that bill.

Watch the few first episodes and struggle through the teenage high-school aingst..... It turned a lot of people off originally. In the end, the story has nothing to do with the high school and it is all about the mythology of the town itself.



Sure, in this story, a majority of the "Witches" come from a black bloodline, but they aren't talked down to or ridiculed. In the end, they have much more power than the vampires and werewolves and hold their own family well above any struggles they're called upon to fix.

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Originally posted by BYTEMITE:

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Huh?

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http://users.livejournal.com/_allecto_/34718.html

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As for every black character in the Firefly/Serenity universe being a complete nut-job and/or dick... I can't explain that away. I didn't write it.... I just watched it.

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...Yeah, I've actually noticed that with Book's backstory and Jubal and the Operative, Joss is leaning quite a lot on the scary black man archetype. Fair observation.

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I'm probably just jaded now. I'm about 2 1/2 seasons deep into "The Vampire Diaries".

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Oh FUCK. You win. ABORT!

*tosses "best troll is best" crown at Jack's feet and RUNS*

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all of the male characters on Firefly were rapists who represented male power, Serenity is a symbol of phallic worship, and the relationship between the black characters and white characters was a call-back to civil war era slavery.

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gets my vote; it "sounds" real enough to be an actual diss. I think you bested Six by quite a bit, if we're looking at "classy offensive" material.

Although, I gotta say, if he was SERIOUS and not playing the game, and barring the "classy" part, I might have to rethink that...

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