What would have happened to Simon...?
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If the government knows that the Tams are on Serenity the whole crew coudl be marked as fugitives. That means any planet with port control is now a no go. The crew does not have many friends left and would be hard pressed just getting fuel and rations for the ship. It would not be long before they got desperate and then dead.
Technically they WERE marked as fugitives, if you catch a freeze frame of the crew biographies when the Operative comes up with his plan to use Inara as bait. Those biographies are also included as extras on the Serenity Blue Ray.
So that very could be where the next part of the series goes, unless the Operative managed to use his position to wipe the the flags from their files first. Don't know if he did, so it's hard to say.
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There are a lot of stories where the Opperative delivers and takes Simon and River's names off the wanted list, but Simon and River stay aboard Serenity, where they belong and have family. Equally there are plenty of stories where the Alliance is still after them so the crew must continue to keep a low profile. I like that we don't know what officially happened, that way there can be as many Firefly stories out there as there are people to write them and we can all choose which ones to read and like and which ones to avoid, nothing is set in stone and your future is whatever you make it.
Would they close the Academy? I would hope so, but I would hope that no one would do that to people in the first place, so hopes are pretty null and void at this point. I think they would find reasons to justify keeping it open since they've done so much already, spent so much money and time. The only reason they'd close it is if the public found out what they were doing, then they'd have to close it, or pretend they were closing it at least.
I assume you're my pal until you let me know otherwise.
"A completely coherant River means writers don't deliver" KatTaya.
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Originally posted by BYTEMITE:
Technically they WERE marked as fugitives, if you catch a freeze frame of the crew biographies when the Operative comes up with his plan to use Inara as bait. Those biographies are also included as extras on the Serenity Blue Ray.
So that very could be where the next part of the series goes, unless the Operative managed to use his position to wipe the the flags from their files first. Don't know if he did, so it's hard to say.
I took a look, and Mal's bio says that he had been bound by law five time with no convictions.
The Operative could have, if he had that power. There is simply a lot ow ways it could go.
I do not fear God, I fear the ignorance of man.
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With Doctor Mathias gone, and substantial knowledge from their
experiments so far, the Academy might continue to train psychic
assassins in a more humane way ... could be a doctor, even a
psychiatrist, who sees that humane training would help to insure
loyalty.
Don't think Joss would agree, though. No.
. . . . .The worst and most frequent consequence of paranoia is that it's self-fulfilling.
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I've always seen the Operative as a type of cleaner. I think he went into the situation with the mission to clean up the whole mess. He also nicely exposed a problem using psychics, you really can't keep secrets from them. Even if they are not handled by people in the know, you can't use them against anyone who is, unless you don't mind them having those secrets.
The operative seemed quite happy just to kill River, I think his talk of taking her home was nothing but lip service. Hell if he would have gotten her ans she told him anything he would have been the next target. "I'm not concerned with secrets, but with keeping them."
I think the Academy is gone, almost every trace disposed of. So even if River and Simon came foreword there would be no proof to support there claims.
I do not fear God, I fear the ignorance of man.
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I just had to deal with ten minutes of downloaded internet movie trailers on my crappy Blu Ray player in order to print screen it only for my computer to black it out for being a copyrighted image.
But it is there. Every single character in the dossier has FEDERAL STATUS: FUGITIVE written in their file.
For Mal, it'll be on the very last frame.
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Originally posted by m52nickerson:
I've always seen the Operative as a type of cleaner. I think he went into the situation with the mission to clean up the whole mess. He also nicely exposed a problem using psychics, you really can't keep secrets from them. Even if they are not handled by people in the know, you can't use them against anyone who is, unless you don't mind them having those secrets.
The operative seemed quite happy just to kill River, I think his talk of taking her home was nothing but lip service. Hell if he would have gotten her ans she told him anything he would have been the next target. "I'm not concerned with secrets, but with keeping them."
I think the Academy is gone, almost every trace disposed of. So even if River and Simon came foreword there would be no proof to support there claims.
Extremely likely, in fact that's an angle I explored in my fanfics.
So it could go either way, they want to do more research or she's too dangerous, destroy her.
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Originally posted by Oonjerah:
With Doctor Mathias gone, and substantial knowledge from their
experiments so far, the Academy might continue to train psychic
assassins in a more humane way ... could be a doctor, even a
psychiatrist, who sees that humane training would help to insure
loyalty.
Don't think Joss would agree, though. No.
Oonj, I think Joss Whedon was interested in revealing to us US GOV'T programs that had actually happened, have supposedly been scrapped, but which probably are still ongoing.
I direct you to the Family Jewels Report, MKULTRA, MKDELTA.
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Funding of behavior modification research on unwitting US citizens, including unscientific, non-consensual human experiments.(see also Project MKULTRA)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Family_Jewels_%28Central_Intelligence_Age
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_MKULTRA
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MKDELTA
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MKDELTA, and its associated program MKULTRA, were mind control and interrogation operations run by the Central Intelligence Agency.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Men_Who_Stare_at_Goats
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The Men Who Stare at Goats (2004) is a book by Jon Ronson about the U.S. Army's exploration of New Age concepts and the potential military applications of the paranormal. The title refers to attempts to kill goats by staring at them. Research was carried out in part by Jon Ronson, but also by documentary filmmaker John Sergeant.
The book examines connections between military programs and psychological techniques being used for interrogation in the War on Terror. The book traces the evolution of these covert activities over the past three decades, and sees how they are alive today within U.S. Homeland Security and the Iraq War. It examines the use of the theme tune to Barney & Friends on Iraqi prisoners-of-war, the smuggling of a hundred de-bleated goats into the Special Forces command center at Fort Bragg, North Carolina, and the connection between the U.S. military and the mass-suicide of members of the Heaven's Gate cult in San Diego.
There are some very dark rabbit holes out there.
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BTW... Nick, where is your avatar from? It reminds me of a video game coming out soon that I'm very excited about.
EDIT: It is it is omigosh squee
I hereby am going to give you so much less bullshit and declare you amazing
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Originally posted by BYTEMITE:
I just had to deal with ten minutes of downloaded internet movie trailers on my crappy Blu Ray player in order to print screen it only for my computer to black it out for being a copyrighted image.
But it is there. Every single character in the dossier has FEDERAL STATUS: FUGITIVE written in their file.
For Mal, it'll be on the very last frame.
Are you talking movie or extra's? I only checked the movie because I have it saved on my PC so it was easy to get to and I did not see it.
Yes my avatar is from Diablo 3, which I might get if they drop the whole must connect to our servers to play BS. I'm still a big fan of Diablo 2, still have it on my PC. Of course it is a bit of a love-hate thing with Blizzard. I never upgraded to 1.10 because I think it was crap. V1.09 for life!
...we now return to the original topic.
Okay, you're talking Blue-ray extras. The in film bio for Mal does not list him as a fugitive. I personally don't know how much stake I would put in the extra's. As with everything else it is up tot he individual.
I do not fear God, I fear the ignorance of man.
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