Elections; 2024
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Why Kamala Harris lost
By Andrew Prokop | Nov 6, 2024, 6:15 AM CST
In the years since the pandemic, incumbent parties have been struggling in wealthy democracies across the world. The reasons for this are debated, though post-reopening inflation is likely a big one.
Ultimately, much of the public was more resentful of inflation under Biden than they were about Trump’s attempted election theft. And so voters turned back to the candidate they kicked out of office just four years ago.
https://www.vox.com/2024-elections/382945/kamala-harris-lost-donald-tr
ump-why
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
That's one reason.
Maybe the people at Vox should have admitted that this was a problem years ago and demand their party do something about it before it got away on them.
Oh well. Maybe next time, kiddo.
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I'm pretty sure we're not going to get any more updates for at least a few hours.
I can't imagine anybody is still in the mood to be counting anything right now.
We're at 71,183,547 votes for Trump and 66,251,503 votes for Harris.
Not really any movement at all outside of the West Coast since last update.
California is 54% counted with Harris up only 17%
Oregon is 69% counted with Harris up 12%
Washington is 64% counted with Harris up 20%
Alaska is 71% counted with Trump up 16% (and the NYT STILL hasn't called Alaska for Trump).
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AXIOS: GOP eyes Senate majority of their dreams after riding Trump's coattails
https://www.axios.com/2024/11/06/senate-republicans-majority-trump
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MSNBC's Joy Reid: "Black Voters Came Through For Kamala Harris, White Women Did Not"
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2024/11/05/msnbcs_joy_reid_bla
ck_voters_came_through_for_kamala_harris_white_women_did_not.html
Shut the fuck up, you stupid, racist bitch.
There is NO WAY you could even possibly know this to be the case with the data we have now. And boy do I hope you're totally wrong about this and everybody throws it back in your face.
YOU, specifically you and your big, fat, ugly looking racist mouth, Joy Ried, are part of the reason that Trump is our 47th President.
I do hope MSNBC realizes this now and fires you like they should have a LONG time ago.
There is no place for ANYONE like you on a News Network that is even trying to pretend not to have a hard core political bias. You and half of your clown show you consider colleagues need to pack up all your shit and get the fuck out and make room for actual objective journalism carried out by actual objective journalists.
Maybe they've got a spot for the likes of you on The View, where you belong. Although I doubt it because I think their ratings are about to tank too.
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The global trend that pushed Donald Trump to victory
Incumbents everywhere are doing poorly. America just proved it’s not exceptional.
By Zack Beauchamp | Nov 6, 2024, 12:46 PM CST
What happened on Tuesday is part of a worldwide wave of anti-incumbent sentiment.
We saw this anti-incumbent wave in elections in the United Kingdom and Botswana; in India and North Macedonia; and in South Korea and South Africa. It continued a global trend begun in the previous year, when voters in Poland and Argentina opted to move on from current leadership. The handful of 2024 exceptions to this general rule look like true outliers: The incumbent party’s victory in Mexico, for example, came after 20 straight defeats for incumbents across Latin America.
Given Trump’s victory, we can confidently say the United States is not exceptional.
https://www.vox.com/2024-elections/383208/donald-trump-victory-kamala-
harris-global-trend-incumbents
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What about India? Modi won.
Another exception: Putin
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"It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal." - Henry Kissinger
AMERICANS SUPPORT AMERICA
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Quote:You forgot Venezuela, Cuba, Afghanistan, North Korea, China, Israel and Iran. All have shown remarkable stability by keeping the same old political powers in power. The fickle finger of fate always points in the same direction in those countries. The finger never does a 180 degree change, or a 90, or a 45 degree change in direction. Always the same direction. Must get monotonous in those countries.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
What about India? Modi won.
Another exception: Putin
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Trump Won. Now What?
The United States is about to become a different kind of country.
By David Frum | November 6, 2024, 5:45 AM ET
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2024/11/trump-wins-second
-term-presidency/680546/
Donald Trump has won, and will become president for the second time. Those who voted for him will now celebrate their victory. The rest of us need to prepare to live in a different America: a country where millions of our fellow citizens voted for a president who knowingly promotes hatred and division; who lies—blatantly, shamelessly—every time he appears in public; who plotted to overturn an election in 2020 and, had he not won, was planning to try again in 2024.
Above all, we must learn to live in an America where an overwhelming number of our fellow citizens have chosen a president who holds the most fundamental values and traditions of our democracy, our Constitution, even our military in contempt. Over the past decade, opinion polls have showed Americans’ faith in their institutions waning. But no opinion poll could make this shift in values any clearer than this vote. As a result of this election, the United States will become a different kind of country.
When he was last in the White House, the president-elect ignored ethics and security guidelines, fired inspectors general and other watchdogs, leaked classified information, and used the Department of Homeland Security in the summer of 2020 as if it were the interior ministry of an authoritarian state, deploying U.S. Customs and Border Protection and Coast Guard “troops” in American cities. Trump actively encouraged the January 6, 2021, insurrection at our Capitol. When he left the White House, he stole classified documents and hid them from the FBI.
Because a critical mass of Americans aren’t bothered by that list of transgressions, any one of which would have tanked the career of another politician, Trump and his vice president–elect, J. D. Vance, will now try to transform the federal government into a loyalty machine that serves the interests of himself and his cronies. This was the essence of the Heritage Foundation’s Project 2025, and its architects, all Trump fans, will now endeavor to make it become reality. Trump will surely try again to dismantle America’s civil service, replacing qualified scientists and regulators with partisan operatives. His allies will help him build a Department of Justice that does not serve the Constitution, but instead focuses on harassing and punishing Trump’s enemies. Trump has spoken, in the past, of using the Federal Communications Commission and the Internal Revenue Service to punish media organizations and anyone else who crosses him, and now he will have the chance to try again.
Perhaps the greater and more insidious danger is not political repression or harassment, but corruption. Autocratic populists around the world—in Hungary, Turkey, Venezuela—have assaulted institutions designed to provide accountability and transparency in order to shift money and influence to their friends and families, and this may happen in America too. This is not just a theoretical threat. As loyalists take over regulatory agencies, filling not only political but also former civil-service jobs, American skies will become more polluted, American food more dangerous. As a result of this massive shift in the country’s bureaucratic culture, Trump-connected companies will prosper, even as America becomes less safe for consumers, for workers, for children, for all of us.
American foreign policy will also reflect this shift toward kleptocracy. In his first term, Trump abused the powers of his office, corrupting American foreign policy for his personal gain. He pressured the Ukrainian president to launch a fake investigation of his political opponent; altered policy toward Turkey, Qatar, and other nations in ways that suited his business interests; even used the Secret Service to funnel government money to his private properties. In a second term, he and the people around him will have every incentive to
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How long do you think it will be before Ted finds his balls and comes back to the RWED?
You don't think we saw his last post ever here yesterday, do you?
He just paid Haken $30 for keeping the lights on for us. It would be a shame to walk away now.
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POLITICO: Trump Has Humiliated His Foes
https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2024/11/06/donald-trump-electio
n-humiliated-his-foes-00187812
Donald Trump didn’t steal the 2024 election. He has won it — clearly and comprehensively.
Democrats warned that Trump and his supporters are prepared to hijack democracy. Now they must ruefully acknowledge another reality: The Trump movement, no matter how much this appalls opponents, is a powerful expression of democracy.
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I am happy to announce that I have confirmed that Ted is still alive.
He was hiding out in the tag section with Brenda shit talking us "stupid" people for voting for Trump.
Too much of a pussy to come in here and face the music.
Like Kamala Harris once said, Ted, "If you've got something to say, say it to my face!"
Get fucked you cowardly little worm.
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Trump won. Now Putin wants results.
https://www.politico.eu/article/donald-trump-us-elections-vladimir-put
in-russia-ukraine-defense-foreign-policy-war/
Cautious as Russian commentators were about the geopolitical implications of Trump’s win, they clearly considered it to be a boon for Russia domestically.
With obvious glee, Russian commentators and officials jumped on the opportunity to use Trump’s criticism of his opponents as underscoring Moscow’s own depiction of the U.S. as a diseased country in decay, to which Russia, conveniently, provides the perfect foil.
“Trump started talking about that the United States is ill, and that American society should solve those problems,” Zakharova said.
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How you holding up, buddy?
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Quote:In Vietnam, I was asked how I could sleep soundly with a war going on. Ear plugs. And lack of empathy for crazy nincompoops who deserve to die young. Back in civilian life, being surrounded by dummies' chaotic lives, their "non-optimal" (that's a euphemism) decisions, never caused me to lose sleep about their deep-rooted stupidity and lack of self-control. Their mental illnesses may keep them drinking and over-eating at night and using tobacco during the day but doesn't get sympathy from me or interfere with my sleep.
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
How you holding up, buddy?
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In Trump’s telling, the economy was in shambles, even when almost every measure said otherwise, and the border was an open sore leeching murderous migrants, when the actual number of crossings had dropped precipitously. All this came wrapped in his signature language of catastrophism.
Donald Trump might be the luckiest guy in the world. Donald Trump should have the easiest presidency ever.
He says he'll turbocharge the economy, and it's already turbocharged. In the latest quarter, real GDP is now an astonishing 2.6% above potential GDP. That's the highest it's been in half a century.
He says he'll cut imports from China, and they've already been cut. Last year imports of goods from China came to 1.28% of GDP, the lowest in 20 years.
He says he'll produce more oil and gas, and both are already at the highest levels in American history.
He says he'll get crime down, and it's already down. Murder is at the lowest rate in more than 40 years.
Overnight the US election system has become reliable and trustworthy. It's amazing the progress Trump can make in less than a week when he puts his mind to it.
More things Trump promised that he has already delivered:
https://jabberwocking.com/donald-trump-should-have-the-easiest-preside
ncy-ever/
There's really not much left for Trump to do.
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The win has its limits, 51 is still very close...and you have Uniparty and RINOs
FDR and LBJ got over 60%, Nixon 60% plus
Reagan 58 + vs Walter Mondale and Obama 53 vs Mcain's 45.7%
A freaking SQUIRREL just ran across the stage at Kamala’s Concession speech and everyone in the comments is yelling “Peanut!”
https://x.com/paintsaints/status/1854274167753077112
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COVID took Donald Trump out of the White House. Four years later, COVID put him back in. Shocks from the pandemic produced generational inflation on a global scale that wreaked havoc on incumbents in country after country. Cost-of-living increases made for an economy that most people feel hasn’t worked for them. This was an election in which fundamental indicators pointed to the bums getting booted out. So they were.
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2024/11/election-results-2024-the-
real-reason-kamala-harris-lost.html
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Why Trump Won
By David A. Graham | November 6, 2024, 9:55 AM ET
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2024/11/why-trump-won/680
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Trump consistently offered a clear message that spoke to Americans’ frustration about the economy and the state of the country, and promised to fix it.
Throughout the campaign, Trump told voters that Democrats and undocumented immigrants were responsible for inflation, and that he would fix the problem. Trump promised a way out.
“We’re going to help our country heal,” Trump said in remarks early this morning. “We’re going to help our country heal. We have a country that needs help, and it needs help very badly. We’re going to fix our borders, we’re going to fix everything about our country, and we’ve made history for a reason tonight, and the reason is going to be just that.”
You can contrast that with the message coming from Kamala Harris and the Democratic Party, which was more outwardly hopeful but suffered from a serious, perhaps unfixable, flaw.
Harris promised to protect things like Social Security and Medicare, and warned that Trump would ruin everything that was great about America. This was a fundamentally conservative answer, coming from a Democratic Party that has become strikingly conservative at a time when too many voters were disgusted with the status quo.
The administration argued that inflation was a worldwide trend, caused by COVID, and pointed out that inflation in the U.S. had dropped faster than in peer countries, and that the American economy was running better than any other. All of this was true and also politically unhelpful. You can’t argue people into feeling better with statistics. Democrats had a good empirical case that what they had done to steward the economy was very successful. They just had no political case.
In a bitter turn for Democrats, Trump will now benefit from their governing successes. If he truly attempts to, or succeeds at, speedily deporting millions of people or instituting 60 percent tariffs, he will drive inflation higher and wreck the progress of Biden’s term, but Trump’s own political instincts and the influence of many very wealthy people around him may temper that. Having clearly promised to fix the problem and vanquished his enemies, he’ll now be able to declare a swift victory.
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Trump's MAGA allies gloat Project 2025 "is the agenda"
Project 2025 outlines a plan to greatly expand the power of the executive branch and allow the president to override checks that typically would limit his power. It also includes recommendations for dissolving the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA), shrinking the social safety net, ending student debt relief, deporting immigrants and aggressively curtailing abortion protections.
Trump repeatedly tried to distance himself from Project 2025 during the campaign, even going so far as claiming he knew nothing about it. Give him time and Trump will admit Project 2025 is his agenda.
https://www.axios.com/2024/11/07/trump-project-2025-second-term-agenda
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but even with wins any number of hundreds of US Conservative Republicans can turn against him
Anti-Trump Republicans? Mitt Romney, Paul Ryan, Chris Wallace, Megyn Kelly, Liz Cheney, Lindsey Graham, the kids of Irangate Monkeys Wearing Shoes Ronald Reagan, Alberto Gonzales, Stephanie Grisham, Eric Holcomb Indiana Governor, David Jolly, Mark Esper, John Bolton, Greg Pence, Mike Gallagher, John Kasich, Chris Christie, Phil Scott Govenor Vermont, Sarah Matthews, Adam Kinzinger, Charles Barkley, Rex Tillerson, Anthony Scaramucci, Michael Steele, Asa Hutchinson, Daniel Rickenmann, Arnold Schwarzenegger, Ken Wainstein, Anthony Gonzalez, Harriet Miers, Lisa Murkowski, Kelly Ayotte, Dick Cheney, Eliot A Cohen, David Valadao, John Boehner, Meghan McCain, Will Hurd of Texas, Charles Djou, Omarosa Onee Newman, Rick Wilson's Lincoln Project, Lan Diep, Dawn Addiego, Nikki Haley.
Trump's Republicans win control of US Senate, make gains in House
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trumps-republicans-win-control-us-sen
ate-make-gains-house-2024-11-06/
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Trump's MAGA allies gloat Project 2025 "is the agenda"
Project 2025 outlines a plan to greatly expand the power of the executive branch and allow the president to override checks that typically would limit his power. It also includes recommendations for dissolving the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA), shrinking the social safety net, ending student debt relief, deporting immigrants and aggressively curtailing abortion protections.
Trump repeatedly tried to distance himself from Project 2025 during the campaign, even going so far as claiming he knew nothing about it. Give him time and Trump will admit Project 2025 is his agenda.
https://www.axios.com/2024/11/07/trump-project-2025-second-term-agenda
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
LOL
That was a troll started by Matt Walsh.
You got punked.
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Well if your plan was to import a bunch of illegal criminals and give them voting rights, it doesn't appear that will work out for you.
45% of Latinos, and 55% of Latino men voted for Trump, according to Axios.
Maybe you should just import the women. They only voted 38% for Trump.
I think Trump voters can get behind that. Most American women under 40 are evolutionary dead ends.
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Quote:6ix, you are stupid to believe it is fake news:
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
LOL
That was a troll started by Matt Walsh.
You got punked.
As always, tax cuts for the rich are Job 1
Trump poised to push tax plan with hefty price tag
The president-elect and Republicans in Congress are aiming to remake the country’s tax code with major benefits for corporations and the upper class. By Jacob Bogage
President-elect Donald Trump is poised to push swiftly for new tax cuts if Republicans win full control of Congress, further slashing corporate rates and extending trillions of dollars of other cuts even as the national debt soars.
Major portions of Trump’s 2017 tax law are set to expire next year, and Republicans are aiming to give Trump a major legislative accomplishment within his first 100 days in office.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2024/11/07/trump-taxes-republi
can-congress/
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Originally posted by second:Quote:6ix, you are stupid to believe it is fake news:
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
LOL
That was a troll started by Matt Walsh.
You got punked.
You misunderstand... I'm all but fully on board with everything I've heard about Project 2025.
I don't think Trump is going to do it, but I'm just fine with it if he does.
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Quote:So you are on-board with the part about exploding the National Debt? That's how my consolation prize will be funded. Unfortunately for you, who has no income, your tax bill cannot go down further. So sorry for your loss.
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:Quote:
Originally posted by second:Quote:6ix, you are stupid to believe it is fake news:
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
LOL
That was a troll started by Matt Walsh.
You got punked.
You misunderstand... I'm all but fully on board with everything I've heard about Project 2025.
I don't think Trump is going to do it, but I'm just fine with it if he does.
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I've been doing my best to call out people reporting some misinformation on YouTube and Twitter the last two days.
I keep hearing "where are all the missing votes?", which is people asking why Kamala Harris has 15 Million votes less than Joe Biden* did. There are also people claiming that Trump won the Popular Vote by over 5,000,000 votes. Neither of the above are true, but idiots are going to idiot on either side, and now the low IQ idiots running channels like The Quartering are claiming these false stats to be the truth.
Now... There are going to be a ton less votes for Harris in the end, with Trump slightly improving his own numbers for 2020, but there are nowhere near 15 Million missing votes from 2020 when the votes are all counted.
As you can see from a simple Google search with the electoral map on the front page, the total count of votes has now risen to 72,787,684 for Trump and 68,142,532 votes for Harris.
The last time I reported on that number was at 5:23 AM yesterday morning, and the numbers at that time were only 70,591,885 for Trump and 65,643,227 for Harris. That's more than a 5.5 Million rise in the last 30 or so hours and there's still a LOT of California and the rest of the West Coast to count their ballots. We still don't even know who won Nevada or Arizona either. If you look at all the red states, voting is all but complete. Outside of the West Coast blue states, it looks like only Maryland is the only Blue state that still might have a significant total to still figure out.
So already we can see that the race has tightened from Trump's peak of 5.2 Million votes over Harris to only 4.645 Million today, and there have also been 5 Million additional votes counted in that time.
California already has 9.7 Million votes counted, but that's only 55% of the state counted. So far, they're only swinging 17% for Harris in California, so it's not going to help her too much in the popular vote, but I think that number will increase to over 20% at least when the state is finished if not as high as 25%.
So I'm just going to give Harris 2 to 1 on the remainder of the California count, which I believe is overly generous.
There's still about 9 Million more votes in California. I'll give 6 to Harris and 3 to Trump.
Now we're at roughly 76 Million votes for Trump and 74 Million votes for Harris with some more still needed to be counted in Washington, Oregon, Maryland, Arizona and New Mexico being the vast remainder of the rest of the results.
It's probably a 2 Million win for Trump on the Popular vote in the end right now. I give a small possibility that he wins by more than 3 Million... Maybe 10%-15% chance?
Without doing a deep dive, which would entail investigating which counties still need to be counted in which states and a whole lot of math, I'm just doing some light figuring in my head here based off of the vote map by state on Google. And I'm probably giving more to Harris than I should of the remaining share, but I want to err on the side of caution here. My final guess once the votes are all counted up would be somewhere in the area of 77 Million for Trump and 75 Million for Harris.
The 2020 results were 74,223,369 for Trump and 81,282,916 votes for Biden*
The total EXACT vote count in 2020 was 155,506,285.
My guess right now is they have somewhere in the area of 152 Million votes in total after they're all counted up.
That's only 3.5 Million missing votes. Not 15 Million.
And it would only be a 2 to possibly 3 Million surplus of votes for Trump. Not 5 Million.
The big question should be, why do morons on YouTube from both sides make so much money at this when they're too stupid to actually do the work to give people legitimate information?
We know that Ted knows what I'm talking about. Long after I said I already tuned out most of these retards and their clickbait crap, Ted couldn't stop posting it all day, every day, from anybody who
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To further elaborate on the above issue...
The problem with stuff like this is that it's how false rumors spread and why so many people in this country believe untrue stuff and keep spreading it all around. Everybody thinks they know everything, and confidently proclaim bullshit like this to be true every day to anybody who will listen.
My guess that when the next election takes place, there will still be people saying that 15 Million votes disappeared last election and that Trump won 2024 by 5 Million votes.
Then when people go and look for themselves after having believed this lie for 4 years straight, they're going to start going over to the Mandella Effect forums and join the ever-growing group of narcissistic autists who all believe they come from a different timeline than the rest of us do because in the world they came from Kit-Kat doesn't have a hyphen in it. (Or is it that Kit Kat has a hyphen where they come from? Who gives a shit.)
Uggggggggghhhhhhh.......
I think I just hate being smart sometimes.
If somebody were to come to me and say "Hey. Here's $200,000. The only catch is that you'll live the rest of your life 30 IQ points lower".... I'd have to really think long and hard about it.
If they gave me the offer to test-drive it for a day and see how I liked it, you bet your ass I would.
Why so cheap?
Because, I suspect, they'd be the ones doing me a favor, and then paying me money on top of it. It would be like somebody offering to re-roof my house and then giving me a brand new pickup truck for letting them work on it.
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Looks like Republicans have now picked up 4 Senate seats and are sitting at 53.
The house is 212 Republican to 201 Democrat so far. Republicans have flipped 4 seats. 218 to win.
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I don't know when they were announced, but it looks like Nevada and Michigan were called for Trump and recognized by CNN and MSNBC eventually at some point.
CNN and MSNBC both show the Electoral Count at 301 / 226 right now. Real Clear Politics has it at 312 / 226. Apparently they've already given Arizona to Trump.
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Crowd ROARS When Stewart TURNS On MSNBC And Pollsters After Election
"Uh, I do want to very quickly send a quick message to all the pollsters, the uh, the election pollsters...
um.... Blow me.
I don't ever want to fucking hear from you again. Ever. I don't ever want to hear "we corrected the over-correction of the"...
You don't know shit about shit.
And I... don't care for you."
Good for you, Jon.
The polls were readable though if you've been paying attention.
I was able to read them like tea leaves and I was more accurate with my prediction in 2024 than anybody in the Media was. In fact, my prediction was 100% correct.
My only regret was not giving Trump at least +2 Million in the Popular Vote.
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The popular vote count now stands at 73,407,735 Trump and 69,074,145 for Harris.
This is increased from 72,787,684 for Trump and 68,142,532 votes for Harris on the last update this afternoon.
Kamala is still under 18% of the vote in California, but she has climbed back to 17.8% from only 17%. It's possible that I may have severely over estimated the amount of uncounted votes that would break for Harris when I was being overly-cautious about it in my prediction of the final vote counts earlier. I still have no desire to do a deep dive into the counties to come up with a better prediction since it doesn't really matter at this point. Nothing to do now but wait and see.
59% of California has now been counted. 81% of Oregon and 89% of Washington have been counted. 83% of Maryland has been counted. 82% of Colorado has been counted. 76% of Arizona has been counted. 77% of Alaska is counted. Pretty much everybody else is done or just wrapping up.
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Democrats Should Relax. Voters Will Hate Republican Government Too!
It’s just not a good time to be a politician in the United States, or anywhere else.
On Thursday, the Financial Times published a chart showing that every incumbent party facing reelection in a developed-world country this year lost vote share for the first time since 1905, when the data started being recorded. Why that is, and why the U.S. is part of the trend despite a surging stock market and GDP, might be interesting to try and figure out—is it inflation, is it home prices, is it wealth inequality, is it something more ambient about the loss of meaning and direction in a largely virtual, service-oriented world? Who knows! Whatever it is, though, it’s Donald Trump’s problem now.
The good news, such as it is? Donald Trump’s own favorability rating, as the guy who just won the presidential election, is minus 9. If that holds, it would be even worse than it was the previous time he took office, and about the same as it was just prior to COVID—the period of relative economic calm that this year’s crucial swing voters apparently remember so fondly.
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2024/11/election-results-2024-dona
ld-trump-kamala-harris-loss-why.html
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
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Governing parties have lost every single election so far in 2024. People all over the globe wanted to throw the bums out
Here's an interesting chart from the Financial Times that shows how well governing parties have done in elections through the years:
The point of this chart is supposed to be that, for the first time ever, governing parties have lost every single election so far in 2024. People all over the globe wanted to throw the bums out, and they did. Kamala Harris was a victim of an unstoppable force.
https://jabberwocking.com/bad-economies-only-recently-started-to-affec
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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
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I still see that idiots like Jeremy at The Quartering are going around telling everyone that there are 15 Million missing votes today.
At this point, it's not even that there are uncounted votes that will show this is not the truth eventually, but it's not even true anymore while he made that video.
When I first brought this up yesterday, almost exactly 24 hours ago, the vote count was 72,787,684 for Trump and 68,142,532 Harris, or roughly 141 Million votes.
The total vote count in 2020 was 155,506,285. (so as you can see, even yesterday when those videos were made they already were overstating the loss of votes from 2020 by 500,000)
Currently, the vote count is 73,605,087 Trump and 69,288,262 Harris, or just shy of 143 Million.
That brings us to only 12 Million less votes than 2020. (And also, Trump's lead has shrunk down to only 4.3 Million, down from his peak which I called his peak of 5.2 Million early on Wednesday morning).
32% of California still needs to be counted, and they're at roughly 10.3 Million counted already. That alone, is going to be another 5 Million, and it looks like it's swinging 3 votes for Harris for every 2 votes for Trump. Trump will get another 2 Million in California and Harris will get another 3 Million.
Now we're only short 7 Million votes from 2020 in total when California is counted up, less than half of what Jeremy at the Quartering claims in a video he just made within the last hour or two.
Outside of that, we still have 13% to count in Washington, 19% to count in Oregon, 16% to count in Colorado, 4% in Nevada, 22% in Arizona, 23% in Alaska and 16% left to count in Maryland. Maybe another Million or two votes left to count across all of those states as well? I'm sure there's more than that that I'm missing, and none of the maps ever show more than 99% so who knows how many states actually still have some absentee and other mail-in shenanigan votes to count too.
At the end of the counting, there will only be roughly 4 to 6 Million less votes cast in 2024 than in 2020. Not 15 Million.
Trump will end up winning the Popular vote by more than 2 Million now. It will likely be somewhere around 2.5 Million, and maybe even 3 Million if he's lucky. He will have increased his votes from 2020 by at least 1 Million, up to 3 Million.
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Senate is at 53 Republican / 46 Democrat.
I haven't been looking much at the Senate races, but my old man has and he thinks that's it for Republican pickups. Their dreams of having 55 or 56 have been squashed.
The house is at 214 Republican / 203 Democrat. Democrats have now flipped enough of their own to bring it back to only a +1 gain for Republicans so far. 218 to win.
Kamala Harris spent $1.4 BILLION on this campaign.
One of the first things I'd be doing is investigating where that money actually went and who all is walking away with tens of millions and lock them all up.
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I still see that idiots like Jeremy at The Quartering are going around telling everyone that there are 15 Million missing votes today.
. . .
At the end of the counting, there will only be roughly 4 to 6 Million less votes cast in 2024 than in 2020. Not 15 Million.
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However.
That the 2024 vote is less than the 2020 vote, by ANY amount, shores up the idea that that the 2020 vote was marred by substantial, outcome- altering ballot-stuffing.
2024 was just as hotly contested as 2020, so there is no reason to think that 2024 would be less than 2020.
OTOH 2020 was in the middle of Covid, when in-person voting was a scary thought for many. So theoretically 2020 should have been LESS than 2024, if only legitimate voters voted.
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I still see that idiots like Jeremy at The Quartering are going around telling everyone that there are 15 Million missing votes today.
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At the end of the counting, there will only be roughly 4 to 6 Million less votes cast in 2024 than in 2020. Not 15 Million.
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However.
That the 2024 vote is less than the 2020 vote, by ANY amount, shores up the idea that that the 2020 vote was marred by substantial, outcome- altering ballot-stuffing.
Absolutely.
But my problem with The Quartering and quite a few other channels on YouTube is that they're stuffing everyone's head with a 15 Million number that they're all going to remember and that number is going to be 3 times what reality was. They very likely won't ever cover the actual numbers when they're all in because by that time almost nobody even gives a shit anymore, but if it ever becomes a relevant topic, such as arguing against the practices that took place in 2020, millions of low-info people are going to be spouting wildly inaccurate numbers out.
This is what the Legacy Media does all the time. This is why the Legacy Media has no credibility.
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2024 was just as hotly contested as 2020, so there is no reason to think that 2024 would be less than 2020.
I don't believe that it really was as hotly contested as 2020 was. The media talked about it all the time, and the celebrities sure were crying about it every chance they could, but most people I know aren't going around talking and thinking about politics 24/7. That's the stuff that happens on college campuses, tech company break rooms and Liberal shithole big cities.
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OTOH 2020 was in the middle of Covid, when in-person voting was a scary thought for many. So theoretically 2020 should have been LESS than 2024, if only legitimate voters voted.
See... We've got to be careful about how we word stuff like this. "legitimate voters". There are people out there right now arguing that there were 15 Million fraudulent ballots cast in 2020 that disappeared in 2024.
I don't believe anything close to only a million were fucked with. Not even half a million. Probably not even 100,000. Something huge like that would just be stupid. Trump only lost 2020 by 44,000 votes across 3 states. Any sort of fuckery that was going on was on a very micro scale, and it was infinitely easy to hide because all the voting rules in swing-states were changed last-minute using Covid as the excuse.
There was nobody, for instance, making sure that the people going out door to door harvesting ballots didn't throw all the votes for Trump in the fireplace before stuffing the ballot boxes. THAT is how the true cheating happened, and nobody besides me has ever brought it up.
Dumb fucks with over a million subscribers telling all their viewers that 15 Million votes in 2020 were fraudulent is really starting to get under my fucking skin. All they are doing is de-legitimatizing any valid arguments about what really happened in 2020 when they loudly proclaim wildly false and easily debunked statements are fact.
You think MSNBC doesn't watch The Quartering after Election 2024? I wouldn't bet on it. If I were working over there right now I'd be writing up an article about how that "Alt-Right YouTuber" was riling up his 1 Million+ MAGA trash subscriber base by claiming the 2020 election was rigged because there were 15 Million fraudulent votes. And I'd have all of my stats up on the screen like they do over at CNN proving how the Quartering is "lying".
Now I don't believe he's lying. I just think that he's not smart enough to talk about politics at all, and he obviously hasn't hired anybody on his crew that should be talking about politics eithe
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It looks like one of Second's friends just tried to kill Trump again.
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Senate race is done. 53R / 47D.
House is at 214R / 205D. 218 to win.
Popular vote now sits at 74,250,148 for Trump, 70,349,482 for Harris. Trump's lead is now down to 3.9 Million.
Total vote count is now 144,599,630, or now only 10,906,655 less votes than in 2020.
37% left to count in California and Harris has climbed over 18% now for the lead in the state. She's still not quite getting 3 votes for every 2 of Trump's in California. There are still around 6 Million votes left to count here.
16% left to count in Oregon, 10% left in Washington, 18% left in Arizona, 23% left in Alaska, 9% left in Colorado, 15% in Maryland.
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Quote:I am guessing you don't know much about history. Note that the book title has "violence" in it. Joanne Freeman, a professor of history at Yale University, whose most recent book is The Field of Blood: Congressional Violence in Antebellum America is interviewed. The main question the professor was asked:
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Well...
It looks like one of Second's friends just tried to kill Trump again.
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What the Founding Fathers Would Say About Trump’s Win
November 8, 2024, 12:01 PM
https://foreignpolicy.com/2024/11/08/what-the-founding-fathers-would-s
ay-about-trumps-win/
RA: Joanne, how do you imagine the Founding Fathers would interpret this week’s news?
Joanne Freeman: Well, they might say “I told you so.” If you read the personal letters, anything that they were writing in the founding era, it’s hard to say that the founders agreed on a lot, but they did agree that the greatest threat to any republic, but particularly a democratic republic, was a demagogue. The world was monarchies at the time and a democratic republic grounded on public opinion was experimental. What made these largely elitist founders nervous was that “the public” would be easily persuaded, warped, led astray by someone who could get their emotions riled up. That’s the vulnerability of anything democratic, that the people and their emotions can lead them astray. And historically speaking — going back to ancient Greece, ancient Rome — when they looked at republics, what they saw were demagogues saying anything that they possibly could to get the public’s emotions flowing, to woo the public, and then once they got power, doing whatever they wanted and becoming tyrants. They talked about that throughout the entire founding period when trying to evaluate politics in the first decade of the republic. That was what was on their mind. So, in a way, this is an easy question to answer because that would be the absolute first thing that they would say — “We told you. We told you that demagogue tendencies are the vulnerability, and now here you are.”
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Look at the debates at the Constitutional Convention, look at the concerns of that general generation of power holders, and what they were worried about was executive power. And so they felt that they were bounding in the executive in a variety of different ways that would prevent this from being too powerful an executive.
In the founding era and particularly in the 19th century, Congress was at the center of news coverage, journalism, and power. There certainly were executives that were exceptions to that rule, but before the Civil War, most people felt power was in Congress. Now we live in this moment of apparent executive immunity. It’s a fact that the men of the founding era would have been absolutely against executive immunity. There is nothing in the Constitution that justifies an immune national executive.
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But he also discovered that you can get away with a lot. You don’t just have to flex the technical rules or find loopholes and ways to undercut congressional opponents. You can just do things, and often the pushback is so much weaker than you would imagine. That was a lot of what his first term was about. He would go to places you thought you couldn’t go as president and it was okay as long as the internal norms that you’re guided by don’t check you. He’s been explicit that in the next four years, especially with Project 2025, we are going to see a significant ramping up of an already powerful presidency that tries to cut the power of Congress further, undermine the power of the courts, and demonstrate that if someone is willing to use the presidency in a robust and aggressive fashion, no one’s really going to do anything about it. They might criticize it, but the fallout won’t be as sever
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My favorite man-hating cat lady over at Slate... The one, the only Jill Flipovic is not happy. No ma'am.
Men Got Exactly What They Wanted
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/men-got-exactly-what-they-want
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The 2024 election, perhaps more than any other in history, was an election of identity politics. But unlike what that term usually implies—that we’re talking about women and/or racial minorities—this race was about a particular kind of masculine identity that increasingly crosses racial lines, and imperils women and men alike.
A lot of "men" voted for your dumb bitch, you dumb bitch.
Yes. They were men, even if they have low-T and walk around with dildos in their assholes for punishment for their white male privilege as they pray to the Democrat Party and Science. We still know the difference between Men and Women, even though we realize that half of the country's men aren't very masculine at all.
I wouldn't worry so much about the men if I were you. Good luck not being replaced by AI before 2028. This might have been the last election you get to cover, Jill.
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Senate: 53R / 47D
House: 216R / 208D. 218 to win.
Popular vote is now 74,331,522 for Trump, 70,409,153 for Harris.
TOTAL COUNTED VOTES: 144,740,675
Trump's lead is now down to 3,922,369 votes.
It would be tempting to claim that Trump should easily win by over 3 Million votes at this point, but California is REALLY slow-walking things. They still have 37% of the votes left to count, because the California government is a fucking joke. I don't think California counted a single vote today. I don't care that it's the weekend, they should be forced to work until the last vote is counted. You want to poison the well with 10 Million mail-in fraud votes every election? Then you don't get a day off until they're finished being counted. Even when you lose and half of you are on suicide watch.
There were about 150,000 votes counted in total today. I have no idea where they came from. My guess is that they weren't from any of the states that are a long way away from finishing and it was just some final numbers for a few states that are sitting at "99%".
Other states that still need counting.... 10% left in Washington, 16% left in Oregon, 17% in Arizona, 23% in Alaska, 8% in Colorado, 14% in Maryland, 17% in Utah, 3% in Nevada, 1% in Illinois, 1% in Maine, 1% in New Hampshire, 1% in Connecticut, 5% in New Jersey, 9% in Washington D.C.
Every other state is listed at "99%" on the Google homepage map. Whatever "99%" actually means.
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Joanne Freeman, a professor of history at Yale University, whose most recent book is The Field of Blood: Congressional Violence in Antebellum America.
Not one person is impressed with her piece of paper stating that she's been sufficiently brainwashed, or that she is continuing the brainwashing tradition on a new generation of Ivy League douche bags who, just like her, will never do an honest day of work in their lives.
Nor does anybody give a single shit about Joanne's book.
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Also, although I don't provide the data here, I have reason to believe that states such as Virginia, New Hampshire and even Minnesota are in play as well.
These numbers probably aren't official yet, but according to Google's maps, here's where those states stand now...
Virginia: Harris +5.2 (51.8% Harris / 46.6% Trump)
New Hampshire: Harris +2.7 (50.9% Harris / 48.2% Trump)
Minnesota: Harris +4.2 (51.1% Harris / 46.9% Trump)
2 out of 3 of them were within most polling outfit's margin of error, and the third one just narrowly outside of it.
What did those three states look like in 2020?
Virginia: Biden +10.1
New Hampshire: Biden +7.4
Minnesota: Biden +7.1
https://www.cookpolitical.com/vote-tracker/2020/electoral-college
And in 2016?
Virginia: Clinton +5.3
New Hampshire: Clinton +0.4
Minnesota: Clinton +1.5
https://ballotpedia.org/Presidential_battleground_states,_2016
Joe Biden's insane harvested ballot count made it look like Democrats were going to run away with these 3 states forever.
Though it's obvious Harris wasn't as repulsive to them as Hillary Clinton was except for in Virginia, these three "safe" Democrat states were far closer than any of the states that the Legacy Media was trying to convince you would be very close between Trump and Harris. Yanno... states like Iowa, Florida, Texas and Maine District 2 (Which Trump won by 13.3%, 13.1%, 13.9% and 9.2%, respectively).
I think we're seeing a shift here. If the Deep State doesn't manage to destroy Trump and his team and things actually start getting better now, it may be a very long time before a Democrat gets reelected for President.
Who would they even run 4 years from now? Every one of their big names are hated by everybody, including their own. On top of that, because they've tried to be the party that caters to everyone who isn't a white male, there is a TON of constant infighting 24/7 that the media never talks about. Most people in the Democrat party from the constituents up to the top brass hate other people sitting under the umbrella with them.
Trust me... All that chronic racism and sexism that they try to project on everyone but themselves is in full effect against each other when the camera's aren't turned on.
That situation is untenable. And I think we're going to start seeing a lot of that infighting become public over the next few months as everyone continues to point fingers at everyone else and nobody takes any responsibility for the massive loss.
You guys should have run Michael Obama like I told you to. You probably would have eeked out a win this year by running her. I don't think anybody is going to buy into the race/sex bullshit any longer though, so I think that was your last opportunity to run her just on her sex and race.
You guys better figure out another grift quick. Yanno... if you're not actually going to do the hard work and take the steps necessary to fix your party now.
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Quote:You probably forgot this, but I was raised in family that switched religions from Baptist to Jehovah's Witnesses, a minority religion where followers do NOT vote and have been jailed (in America and Russia) for their beliefs. You also forgot that my angry poor white trash relatives who did not switch religions went on to become Trumptards who struggled, suffered, and died young.
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How's it feel to be a minority, Second?
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Meanwhile, my Jehovah Witness parents, who worked at Burger King, lived long and healthy lives, became millionaires, as did my sisters, the school teacher (74 y.o.) and the nurse (66 y.o.) both still working. My family is proof that the American Dream is readily reached by decent people while Trumptards achieve far less because of their rotten behavior everyday. Voting for Trump amounts to no change in your life. Instead, you have change the way you act if you are going to prosper.
https://www.google.com/search?q=Jehovah's+Witnesses+jailed
Funny thing, my nieces and nephews who dropped their parents' religion have not prospered and have become Trumptards in the mistaken belief that a change in government will bring prosperity to them, not a change in their own actions.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
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Frustrated Americans who voted for Trump await the economic changes he promised
Nov 9, 2024 7:03 PM EST
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/frustrated-americans-who-voted-f
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The wonderful future Trump promised? “It’s not going to happen,” Holtz-Eakin said.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
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Frustrated Americans who voted for Trump await the economic changes he promised
Nov 9, 2024 7:03 PM EST
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/frustrated-americans-who-voted-f
or-trump-await-the-economic-changes-he-promised
The wonderful future Trump promised? “It’s not going to happen,” Holtz-Eakin said.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
Oh No! Trump Already Solved Every Problem As President-Elect And Now Will Have Nothing To Do As President
https://babylonbee.com/news/oh-no-trump-already-solved-every-problem-a
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PALM BEACH, FL — Just four days after winning the election, President-Elect Donald Trump already finished solving every single problem in the world and will sadly now have nothing to do for the next four years.
Despite not having even been sworn in, Trump has already succeeded in starting peace talks in Ukraine, kicking Hamas out of Qatar, restoring fortunes to retirement accounts, reducing gas prices, halting migrant caravans, securing natural gas purchases from the E.U., and even getting Target to put up signs saying "Merry Christmas" instead of "Happy Holidays."
"It took me four whole days, but I got it done, all the world's problems solved," Trump told reporters. "I don't know what I'm going to do the next four years, but we're going to keep on winning, let me tell you. Maybe winning at pickleball since I have no work left to do, I don't know. I like winning at golf, but it's almost too easy now. You just hit the ball and it goes in the hole, which some people find very difficult, I don't know why."
At publishing time, Trump had decided to perhaps continue working as a McDonald's fry chef to keep busy while he's President.
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Originally posted by second:Quote:You probably forgot this, but I was raised in family that switched religions from Baptist to Jehovah's Witnesses, a minority religion where followers do NOT vote and have been jailed (in America and Russia) for their beliefs. You also forgot that my angry poor white trash relatives who did not switch religions went on to become Trumptards who struggled, suffered, and died young.
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
How's it feel to be a minority, Second?
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Senate: 53R / 47D
House: 216R / 208D. 218 to win.
Popular vote is now 74,696,256 for Trump, 70,967,637 for Harris.
TOTAL VOTES COUNTED: 145,663,893
TRUMP LEAD (POPULAR VOTE): 3,728,619
What remains to be counted?
California: 34% [11,807,430 counted out of 17.9 Million / 6.1 Million remain]
Alaska: 23% [245,026 counted out of 335,000 / 90,000 remain]
Maryland: 14% [2,634,574 counted out of 3,025,000 / 390,000 remain]
Arizona: 13% [2,965,288 counted out of 3.4 Million / 435,000 remain]
Oregon: 13% [2,016,501 counted out of 2.3 Million / 300,000 remain]
Utah: 12% [1,291,611 counted out of 1.45 Million / 160,000 remain]
Washington: 9% [3,459,180 counted out of 3.8 Million / 350,000 remain]
Colorado: 6% [3,027,990 counted out of 3.22 Million / 200,000 remain]
New Jersey: 5% [4,043,152 counted out of 4.25 Million / 200,000 remain]
New York: 3% [7,796,688 counted out of 8 Million / 200,000 remain]
Illinois: 2% [5,284,812 counted out of 5.39 Million / 100,000 remain]
These are all incidental and won't add much to the counts...
District of Columbia: 7%
Nevada: 4%
New Hampshire: 2%
Nebraska: 2%
Mississippi: 2%
Connecticut: 2%
TOTAL UNCOUNTED VOTES (ROUGH): 8.525 Million
Add that to the existing 145,663,893 and we're at 154.19 Million.
The total vote count in 2020 was 155,506,285.
I don't want to hear one more fucking thing from any of the idiots about how there were 15 Million missing votes this year.
Now it looks like just shy of 1.5 Million votes less than 2020, or less than 10% what the YouTube idiots have been claiming the last few days.
I'm sure we're now going to have low-info voters on the right screaming that the Democrats were stuffing ballots to get the vote count up last minute or some such nonsense, because they've been lied to all week about the vote count.
No morons. Democrats don't cheat if there is nothing to gain from the cheating. You were just mislead by idiots and/or lied to all week.
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Now I've taken the remaining uncounted vote share by state and used the rough percentages to project who those votes are going toward. You'll notice that these numbers don't add up to 100%, and that makes sense because there are other people on the ballot besides Trump and Harris. I feel with my rounding I've probably been overgenerous with the votes I'm giving Harris just to be on the safe side.
California: 34% [6.1 Million remain] (Trump: 2,379,000 / Harris: 3,599,000)
Alaska: 23% [90,000 remain] (Trump: 49,500 / Harris: 36,900)
Maryland: 14% [390,000 remain] (Trump: 140,400/ Harris: 241,800)
Arizona: 13% [435,000 remain] (Trump: 226,200 / Harris: 200,100)
Oregon: 13% [300,000 remain] (Trump: 123,000 / Harris: 168,000)
Utah: 12% [160,000 remain] (Trump: 94,400 / Harris: 60,800)
Washington: 9% [350,000 remain] (Trump: 136,500 / Harris: 203,000)
Colorado: 6% [200,000 remain] (Trump: 86,000 / Harris: 108,000)
New Jersey: 5% [200,000 remain] (Trump: 92,000 / Harris: 104,000)
New York: 3% [200,000 remain] (Trump: 84,000 / Harris: 112,000)
Illinois: 2% [100,000 remain] (Trump: 45,000 / Harris: 54,000)
Total UNCOUNTED votes: TRUMP: 3,426,000 / HARRIS: 4,887,600
Add these to the votes we already have counted and it looks like this:
TRUMP: 78.125 Million / HARRIS: 75.855 Million
If close to the truth, which I'm sure it is, this means that Trump wins the Popular Vote by well over 2 Million votes. My count here is 2.27 Million is Trump's surplus.
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“As democracy is perfected, the office of the President represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day, the plain folks of the land will reach their heart’s desire at last, and the White House will be occupied by a downright fool and complete narcissistic moron.”
—H. L. Mencken, The Baltimore Evening Sun, July 26, 1920
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/mencken-white-house-quote/ explains how that quote has been embellished.
The full quote:
The larger the mob, the harder the test. In small areas, before small electorates, a first-rate man occasionally fights his way through, carrying even the mob with him by force of his personality. But when the field is nationwide, and the fight must be waged chiefly at second and third hand, and the force of personality cannot so readily make itself felt, then all the odds are on the man who is, intrinsically, the most devious and mediocre — the man who can most easily adeptly disperse the notion that his mind is a virtual vacuum.
The Presidency tends, year by year, to go to such men. As democracy is perfected, the office represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. We move toward a lofty ideal. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last, and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
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That's your mistake right there.
Democrats destroy Democracy. The march toward "Progress" is a march toward losing America.
We are DONE with you.
You'd better fix your fucking party or they're not going to get back in office for a very, very long time. Especially not after you start breaking apart because nobody in your party even agrees with each other on anything.
I don't blame Democrats for not having an idea why they failed so hard. There's about a million reasons that they need to add up. But they're not going to figure any of that out before they finish their grieving process and move into the acceptance stage that America hates Democrats.
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Liberals had nine years to decipher Mr. Trump’s appeal — and they failed. The Democrats are a party of college graduates, as the whole world understands by now, of PhD's and genius-grant winners and the best consultants money can buy. Mr. Trump is a con man straight out of Mark Twain; he will say anything, promise anything, do nothing. But his movement baffled the party of education and innovation. Their most brilliant minds couldn’t figure him out.
I have been writing about these things for 20 years, and I have begun to doubt that any combination of financial disaster or electoral chastisement will ever turn on the lightbulb for the liberals. I fear that ’90s-style centrism will march on, by a sociological force of its own, until the parties have entirely switched their social positions and the world is given over to Trumpism.
Can anything reverse it? Only a resolute determination by the Democratic Party to rededicate itself to the majoritarian vision of old: a Great Society of broad, inclusive prosperity. This means universal health care and a higher minimum wage. It means robust financial regulation and antitrust enforcement. It means unions and a welfare state and higher taxes on billionaires, even the cool ones. It means, above all, liberalism as a social movement, as a coming-together of ordinary people — not a series of top-down reforms by well-meaning professionals.
That seems a long way away today. But the alternative is — what? To blame the voters? To scold the world for failing to see how noble we are? No. It will take the opposite sentiment — solidarity — to turn the world right-side up again.
Thomas Frank
Mr. Frank is the author of “What’s the Matter With Kansas?” among other books.
https://attentiontotheunseen.com/2024/11/09/the-elites-had-it-coming/
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
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Their most brilliant minds couldn’t figure him out.
Fuck you, Frank.
Brilliance is vastly overrated.
These people are fucking clowns just like the rest of us. Nobody respects their piece of paper they got from their Ivy League brainwashing chambers anymore.
They all did what Allan Lichtman did. Distorted facts and stats to give them their desired outcome. They drank their own Kool-Aid for way too long.
A dumb-ass, ex-drunk, 4-time college dropout called the election nearly 100% perfect from his attic while smoking cigarettes and drinking coffee. (The only thing I got wrong was that Trump won the popular vote by well over 2 Million, not the 1 Million I predicted). None of you "brilliant" fucks with your half-Million dollar college degrees were able to do that. None of you were even close to reality.
This election was a referendum on college education in the 21st century.
If you aren't a doctor, a lawyer, an engineer or a politician, you wasted your time and money on college.
You are just a stupid person with a piece of paper to hang on the wall and ton of student debt.
And now, because your college brainwashing is running in overdrive, you are very, very depressed on top of it.
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As democracy is perfected
That's your mistake right there.
Democrats destroy Democracy. The march toward "Progress" is a march toward losing America.
We are DONE with you.
You'd better fix your fucking party or they're not going to get back in office for a very, very long time. Especially not after you start breaking apart because nobody in your party even agrees with each other on anything.
I don't blame Democrats for not having an idea why they failed so hard. There's about a million reasons that they need to add up. But they're not going to figure any of that out before they finish their grieving process and move into the acceptance stage that America hates Democrats.
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From Trump’s victory, a simple, inescapable message: many people despise the left
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2024/nov/10/donald-trump-the
-left-social-media-rightwing-propaganda-progressives-woke
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There is no need to pick only a few of the many explanations of Donald Trump’s political comeback. Most of the endless reasons we have heard over the past five days ring true: inflation, incumbency, a flimsy Democratic campaign, white Americans’ seemingly eternal issues with race, and what one New York Times essayist recently called “a regressive idea of masculinity in which power over women is a birthright”. But there is another story that has so far been rather more overlooked, to do with how politics now works, and who voters think of when they enter the polling booth.
Its most vivid element is about the left, and one inescapable fact: that a lot of people simply do not like us. In the UK, that is part of the reason why Brexit happened, why Nigel Farage is back, and why our new Labour government feels so flimsy and fragile. In the US, it goes some way to explaining why more than 75 million voters just rejected the supposedly progressive option, and chose a convicted criminal and unabashed insurrectionist to oversee their lives.
This dude is a "progressive" looney tune for sure, but outside of rare moments of lucidity and warnings to Democrats before the election out of Bill Maher, he's the first person from the Left that I've seen that even comes close to hitting the nail on the head.
Careful there, John. You keep going down that little rabbit hole that you found you might just surface one day as a Trump supporter yourself.
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Trump Takes AZ, Completes Sweep Of All Swing States; CNN Says Victory Was So Massive He "Broke History"
Sunday, Nov 10, 2024 - 05:45 AM
President-elect Donald Trump has won Arizona, completing a sweep of all seven battleground in the 2024 election.
. . .
CNN’s data analyst Harry Enten did a deep dive into the gains president Trump made with specific demographics in the election, highlighting how crushing they were for Democrats.
The numbers are truly astounding, and incredibly bad for the party of ‘joy.’
Enten pointed out that Trump made the greatest improvements over a previous presidential election performance from the same party since 1992.
“When was the last time a party gained in so many different places?” Enten asked, explaining that “You have to go all the way to back to 1992 when Bill Clinton improved on Michael Dukakis’ performance in 49 states, plus the District of Columbia.”
“Donald Trump’s performance on Tuesday was the best for a Republican presidential candidate in exit poll history,” Enten further urged, adding “He literally goes all the way back through history and breaks history.”
Enten pointed to how Trump improved his party’s election performance in 49 states and Washington, D.C. over the 2020 election, with Washington state the single one where he didn’t do better.
“You know, I think the breadth of the improvement that Donald Trump had – Holy Toledo!” Enten declared.
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Quote:If you were as prescience as claimed, you would have made a fortune betting on Trump:
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
A dumb-ass, ex-drunk, 4-time college dropout called the election nearly 100% perfect from his attic while smoking cigarettes and drinking coffee. (The only thing I got wrong was that Trump won the popular vote by well over 2 Million, not the 1 Million I predicted). None of you "brilliant" fucks with your half-Million dollar college degrees were able to do that. None of you were even close to reality.
The Trump-Whim Economy Is Here
Expectations of who will gain, and who will lose, from the president-elect’s second term are already moving markets.
By James Surowiecki | November 10, 2024, 8 AM ET
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2024/11/wall-street-trump-wh
im-economy/680605/
Donald Trump is a crypto bro who’s going to cut taxes and regulations, loves big banks and corporate mergers, doesn’t care about deficits, loves oil and hates wind and solar, and might actually let RFK Jr. do some kooky health stuff. That, roughly speaking, is the picture of Trump that you get when you look at how markets reacted this week to his reelection as president of the United States. In other words, the markets are saying that he’s pretty much who many of us thought he was.
The immediately obvious conclusion to draw from the fact that the stock market spiked on news of Trump’s win—with all three major indexes hitting record highs—is that traders think he’s going to be very good for business. But traders were not simply buying stocks across the board; they were pouring money into assets they think will benefit from the next Trump presidency, while punishing those they think will be hurt by it.
The sheer number of sectors—and individual stocks—that traders seem to believe will be affected by Trump winning is striking. It reflects Trump’s stated intention and willingness to use executive power in an unfettered way. So what we’re seeing is the traders scrambling to try to read Trump’s mind—because they need to figure out how his whims might shape the fate of multibillion-dollar companies.
Some version of this market response happens after every election: Government policy has a big impact on business outcomes, and traders’ job is to anticipate that impact on their holdings. It’s also worth remembering that the stock market rose sharply in 2020 after Joe Biden’s victory looked assured, so some of this week’s rise is probably the result of traders’ relief that we’re not headed for months of legal challenges and conflict over who won. But going by what he has said over the course of the campaign, Trump has very ambitious plans.
Most starkly, he has promised to impose across-the-board tariffs on almost all imported goods, and 60 percent tariffs on Chinese imported goods in particular, and to deport millions of undocumented immigrants. Much of this Trump can direct on his own account, without seeking congressional approval.
The stock market is therefore working overtime to parse his various campaign promises: which it should take seriously and which it can ignore. For instance, one promise that traders seem to be comfortable ignoring is Trump’s vow to let Elon Musk slash trillions of dollars in federal spending. (Musk has claimed, improbably, that he can cut “at least $2 trillion,” mainly by getting rid of government waste.) If traders actually believed that was going to happen, the market would have sold off steeply, because government budget cuts of such magnitude would send the economy into a deep recession.
Instead, the market believes Trump is going to do the opposite: Far from embracing austerity, Trump is likely to cut taxes and increase spending, pouring more money into the economy. That would increase the risk of inflation—ironically, given the fact that Trump won in large part because voters were angry with Biden and Kamala Harris over high prices—which is why, on the first day of trading after Trump’s election, interest rates on 30-year Tr
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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
A dumb-ass, ex-drunk, 4-time college dropout called the election nearly 100% perfect from his attic while smoking cigarettes and drinking coffee. (The only thing I got wrong was that Trump won the popular vote by well over 2 Million, not the 1 Million I predicted). None of you "brilliant" fucks with your half-Million dollar college degrees were able to do that. None of you were even close to reality.
I've said many, many, many times that I don't gamble. I don't even play the stock market after I cashed out to buy a home free and clear.
I will never gamble again, and because of this I am one of the few people who can say they beat the house. (Both the casinos, and the stock market).
Hell... I beat the house, and I got a house out of it.
None of that detracts from the fact that I called the election perfectly and all of these college "educated" dummies were wrong, including your idol Allan Lichtman.
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Trump Takes AZ, Completes Sweep Of All Swing States; CNN Says Victory Was So Massive He "Broke History"
President-elect Donald Trump has won Arizona, completing a sweep of all seven battleground in the 2024 election.
Good lookin' out, Sigs.
I kinda forgot that the Leftwing shill sites hadn't already called AZ. Even Google's map showed that Trump won AZ for a while now. I stopped looking at CNN and MSNBC because it was just pathetic.
Well... That's officially all 7. Even the two I was slightly worried about from what I was seeing in the polls vs. prior election cycles.
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Enten pointed out that Trump made the greatest improvements over a previous presidential election performance from the same party since 1992.
“When was the last time a party gained in so many different places?” Enten asked, explaining that “You have to go all the way to back to 1992 when Bill Clinton improved on Michael Dukakis’ performance in 49 states, plus the District of Columbia.”
“Donald Trump’s performance on Tuesday was the best for a Republican presidential candidate in exit poll history,” Enten further urged, adding “He literally goes all the way back through history and breaks history.”
Enten pointed to how Trump improved his party’s election performance in 49 states and Washington, D.C. over the 2020 election, with Washington state the single one where he didn’t do better.
“You know, I think the breadth of the improvement that Donald Trump had – Holy Toledo!” Enten declared.
Holy Toledo, indeed.
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It should come as no surprise to anybody that the reason we still don't know which way the House goes is largely due to California, and due in part to Arizona and Colorado.
Get your shit together, Democrats.
Your chronic cheating would probably fly under the radar if you didn't take so fucking long to get it done.
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Quote:If Trump is what you claim, then you prosper. If he is not, you don't. Since you are certain about Trump, you certainly should have invested in the future he has planned. If you don't trust Trump, you won't invest in his plans because that would be gambling on the spin of the roulette wheel.
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
I've said many, many, many times that I don't gamble. I don't even play the stock market after I cashed out to buy a home free and clear.
I will never gamble again, and because of this I am one of the few people who can say they beat the house. (Both the casinos, and the stock market).
None of that detracts from the fact that I called the election perfectly and all of these college "educated" dummies were wrong.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
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Originally posted by second:Quote:If Trump is what you claim, then you prosper. If he is not, you don't.
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
I've said many, many, many times that I don't gamble. I don't even play the stock market after I cashed out to buy a home free and clear.
I will never gamble again, and because of this I am one of the few people who can say they beat the house. (Both the casinos, and the stock market).
None of that detracts from the fact that I called the election perfectly and all of these college "educated" dummies were wrong.
Yup and Yup.
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Since you are certain about Trump, you certainly should have invested in the future he has planned. If you don't trust Trump, you won't invest in his plans because that would be gambling on the spin of the roulette wheel.
I did invest in America's future. My vote is one of the 2.3 Million or so additional popular votes for Trump that are going to keep you dumb shits silent about the Electoral College for the next 4 years.
It's rather amusing that you think plopping down your life savings on a political candidate on some sportsbook smartphone app where 20% of the bet goes to China is equivalent to investing in America's future. I do hope that you didn't put too much down on Harris yourself.
All of that chronic mental gymnastics you play in your head 24/7/365 for well over a decade now must just be exhausting.
Second, Second, Second...
I think you need to reevaluate just about everything right now, don't you?
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Quote:You didn't "Invest in America". You don't work, don't have enough faith in the future to have children or even to stop smoking. You are being very much like Rush Limbaugh, who had no children, smoked himself to death while claiming tobacco doesn't cause cancer and greenhouse gases don't change the climate, and couldn't stop talking about his false belief system. Rush was a human zero, appreciated by other loudmouth zeroes.
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
I did invest in America's future. My vote is one of the 2.3 Million or so additional popular votes for Trump that are going to keep you dumb shits silent about the Electoral College for the next 4 years.
It's rather amusing that you think plopping down your life savings on a political candidate on some sportsbook smartphone app where 20% of the bet goes to China is equivalent to investing in America's future. I do hope that you didn't put too much down on Harris yourself.
All of that chronic mental gymnastics you play in your head 24/7/365 for well over a decade now must just be exhausting.
Second, Second, Second...
I think you need to reevaluate just about everything right now, don't you?
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And that article about Trump and business HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH ON-LINE GAMBLING.
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2024/11/wall-street-trump-wh
im-economy/680605/
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
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Originally posted by second:Quote:You didn't "Invest in America". You don't work, don't have enough faith in the future to have children or even to stop smoking. You are being very much like Rush Limbaugh, who had no children, smoked himself to death while claiming tobacco doesn't cause cancer and greenhouse gases don't change the climate, and couldn't stop talking about his false belief system. Rush was a human zero, appreciated by other loudmouth zeroes.
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
I did invest in America's future. My vote is one of the 2.3 Million or so additional popular votes for Trump that are going to keep you dumb shits silent about the Electoral College for the next 4 years.
It's rather amusing that you think plopping down your life savings on a political candidate on some sportsbook smartphone app where 20% of the bet goes to China is equivalent to investing in America's future. I do hope that you didn't put too much down on Harris yourself.
All of that chronic mental gymnastics you play in your head 24/7/365 for well over a decade now must just be exhausting.
Second, Second, Second...
I think you need to reevaluate just about everything right now, don't you?
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More judgement from the Breeders today I see.
Maybe you should talk to your LGBTQIAC3POIA+ crowd or the Gen Z Cult of Greta Thunberg and see if they share your sentiments on this issue.
SPOILER ALERT: They don't.
We've already got 8 Billion idiots shitting up the planet everyday. The world didn't need 2 or 3 more from me. My carbon footprint is exponentially smaller than yours just because I never had kids, and those kids I never had never had any kids, and so on and so on and so on...
Ya dig?
P.S. Smoking absolutely causes cancer.
Also, I own property free and clear and pay my taxes. I feel zero guilt about not needing to be a wage slave until 65 years old like you did, and I have plenty of projects to keep me busy with all my free time.
How about you spend your time figuring out how to fix your party instead of walking around every day being a miserable prick and doing your best to make everyone else as miserable as you are?
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Republicans pick up another House seat. They are now +2. 217R to 208D. 218 to win.
POPULAR VOTE COUNT: 74,831,719 Trump (50.4%) / 71,237,715 Harris. (48.0%)
Total counted votes: 146,069,434
Trump's Popular Vote Lead: 3,594,004
California: 28% Remains
Maryland: 14% Remains
Utah: 14% Remains
Oregon: 13% Remains
Washington: 9% Remains
Washington D.C.: 7% Remains
New Jersey: 5% Remains
Colorado: 5% Remains
New York: 3% Remains
Nevada: 3% Remains
Illinois: 2% Remains
Maine: 2% Remains
New Hampshire: 2% Remains
Connecticut: 2% Remains
Nebraska: 2% Remains
Mississippi: 2% Remains
To note, Harris has now climbed to a 19.9% share of the Californian vote. Since I never did a deep dive into the state to see where existing votes have come from, I expected there to be some variance. I did go generous with my projections of the remaining votes for Harris, but it is possible that California has another swing or two for Harris that Trump can't counter. We'll have to see what happens there.
I probably will have to look deeper into California since the bulk of the remaining votes are coming from there.
Shame on me if Kamala ends up with a 30% lead over Trump in California in the end and I didn't do my research and know that ahead of time.
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It Was Always About Inflation
By Doug Henwood | Nov 8, 2024
https://jacobin.com/2024/11/trump-2024-election-inflation-economy
More than one in five voters, 22%, said inflation had caused them “severe hardship” over the last year; they went for Trump by 50 points.
More than half, 53%, said inflation had caused them “moderate hardship”; they went for Trump by 6 points.
A lucky quarter, 24% to be precise, said it caused them no hardship at all; they went for Harris by 57 points.
Trump won the proletariat. He carried those without a college degree, over half of all voters, by 14 points; Harris carried those with a bachelor’s or more by 13 points. Harris carried households with income over $100,000 by 5 points; Trump won those under by 4 points.
Simply put, Donald Trump owes his reelection to inflation and to the fact that the Biden administration did little to address the problem in a way that helped working-class families.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
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It Was Always About Inflation
By Doug Henwood | Nov 8, 2024
https://jacobin.com/2024/11/trump-2024-election-inflation-economy
More than one in five voters, 22%, said inflation had caused them “severe hardship” over the last year; they went for Trump by 50 points.
More than half, 53%, said inflation had caused them “moderate hardship”; they went for Trump by 6 points.
A lucky quarter, 24% to be precise, said it caused them no hardship at all; they went for Harris by 57 points.
Trump won the proletariat. He carried those without a college degree, over half of all voters, by 14 points; Harris carried those with a bachelor’s or more by 13 points. Harris carried households with income over $100,000 by 5 points; Trump won those under by 4 points.
Simply put, Donald Trump owes his reelection to inflation and to the fact that the Biden administration did little to address the problem in a way that helped working-class families.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
Wow. Gee....
I wonder why nobody ever mentioned inflation being a problem in the last 4 years.
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What big gaps have opened up between Democrats and Republicans?
1) Confidence in both science and medicine was roughly similar between Democrats and Republicans all the way through 2018. Then both plummeted among Republicans, almost certainly due to COVID-era Trumpian disinformation about masks, vaccines, the origin of the virus, and so forth.
2) Confidence in the press wasn't very different until the spread of Fox News in the early 2000s. For the next 16 years Republican trust in the press was about 20 points lower than Democrats'.
This became turbocharged after Trump took office and went on his "fake news" crusade. For the last few years Republican trust in the press has been 60 points lower than Democrats'.
https://jabberwocking.com/heres-whats-changed-politically-over-the-pas
t-few-years/
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
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Quote:I have never found a Trumptard who understood that sellers set prices, not the President. Trumptards think the President sets price by magic and, therefore, they blame the President.
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Wow. Gee....
I wonder why nobody ever mentioned inflation being a problem in the last 4 years.
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The same people who cannot understood that sellers have absolute control of the selling price, always raising the price to take the maximum, are the same people who cannot understand how to raise their own incomes. It is not surprising that people who are stupid about one thing are also stupid about a related thing.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Wow. Gee....
I wonder why nobody ever mentioned inflation being a problem in the last 4 years.
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The same people who cannot understood that sellers have absolute control of the selling price, always raising the price to take the maximum, are the same people who cannot understand how to raise their own incomes. It is not surprising that people who are stupid about one thing are also stupid about a related thing.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
You are making false arguments of a 5th grader.
Go play with the kids on Twitter if you aren't willing to have an actual adult conversation about anything.
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I've had a little time to think about this...
Let's say, for argument's sake, that 100% of the blame is on the sellers for maximizing profits, even to the point of hurting their own bottom line in the long run if it means good quarterly ratings.
What does that say for subsidies such as tax credits for Electronic Vehicles or new windows on your home?
Or what does it say of food stamps? Would they ever have been able to get away with raising the prices to what they are today if the poorest of the poor weren't able to afford any of it anymore without that safety net in place?
Would the doctors have ever been able to charge what they do if insurance didn't exist?
Raising the minimum wage is more of the same. So long as the poorest can afford the increase in price, whether it's from wage increase or government programs, the prices will be hiked for everyone.
But the real problem is that outside of the 1%, the rest of us have been falling into a slow sink where we're getting closer and closer to that bottom without really realizing it's happening.
I remember when Jose Canseco was the first pro athlete to get a $1 Million per year contract. I have ticket stubs saved from when my dad would take us to Cubs and Sox games for $3 and $5 bleacher seats. League minimum is now $200k more than the salary of the President of the United states and most folk can't really afford to take their family to a baseball game, let alone enjoy several in a year.
I'm not arguing against you that a company isn't going to seek out maximum profit wherever it can. I'm just saying that none of your solutions of the past or proposed for the future are going to help anybody precisely because those companies are just going to absorb that profit for themselves.
Come up with a real solution to the problem. I'm all ears.
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I stopped trying to help Trumptards solve their problems. It is pretty obvious why their lives are full of hardships, setbacks, and disappointments, but never obvious to them. Hint: Trumptards are not as capable as they think and they don't put enough effort into making themselves successful. How do they handle fears and failures? By denial. There is an article about the psychology of climate denial but it also explains much about other behaviors from climate deniers.
https://theconversation.com/time-to-freak-out-how-the-existential-terr
or-of-hurricanes-can-fuel-climate-change-denial-242390
It is perfectly reasonable to vote for Trump when you believe he can fix it for you but not at all reasonable when you know the hard fact that you must fix yourself, which includes controlling the panic, the fears, and random urges pushing you around.
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A dumb-ass, ex-drunk, 4-time college dropout called the election nearly 100% perfect from his attic while smoking cigarettes and drinking coffee. (The only thing I got wrong was that Trump won the popular vote by well over 2 Million, not the 1 Million I predicted). None of you "brilliant" fucks with your half-Million dollar college degrees were able to do that. None of you were even close to reality.
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I've had a little time to think about this...
Let's say, for argument's sake, that 100% of the blame is on the sellers for maximizing profits, even to the point of hurting their own bottom line in the long run if it means good quarterly ratings.
What does that say for subsidies such as tax credits for Electronic Vehicles or new windows on your home?
Or what does it say of food stamps? Would they ever have been able to get away with raising the prices to what they are today if the poorest of the poor weren't able to afford any of it anymore without that safety net in place?
Would the doctors have ever been able to charge what they do if insurance didn't exist?
Raising the minimum wage is more of the same. So long as the poorest can afford the increase in price, whether it's from wage increase or government programs, the prices will be hiked for everyone.
But the real problem is that outside of the 1%, the rest of us have been falling into a slow sink where we're getting closer and closer to that bottom without really realizing it's happening.
I remember when Jose Canseco was the first pro athlete to get a $1 Million per year contract. I have ticket stubs saved from when my dad would take us to Cubs and Sox games for $3 and $5 bleacher seats. League minimum is now $200k more than the salary of the President of the United states and most folk can't really afford to take their family to a baseball game, let alone enjoy several in a year.
I'm not arguing against you that a company isn't going to seek out maximum profit wherever it can. I'm just saying that none of your solutions of the past or proposed for the future are going to help anybody precisely because those companies are just going to absorb that profit for themselves.
Come up with a real solution to the problem. I'm all ears.
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I stopped trying to help Trumptards solve their problems.
Translation: I was wrong but I'm too chickenshit to admit it.
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Quote:Trumptards get sued (see Trump), charged with felonies (see Trump), fired from jobs (Trump, again) because their brains are broken. Nothing short of extensive psychological therapy or brain surgery (or a bullet in the head) will improve their behavior.
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I stopped trying to help Trumptards solve their problems.
Translation: I was wrong but I'm too chickenshit to admit it.
I Study Guys Like Trump. There’s a Reason They Keep Winning.
By Ben Rhodes | Nov. 8, 2024
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/11/08/opinion/republicans-democrats-trump
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Ben Rhodes was deputy national security adviser under President Barack Obama and author of “After the Fall: The Rise of Authoritarianism in the World We Made.” Free download from the mirrors at https://libgen.is//search.php?req=Ben+Rhodes
In December 2019, I traveled to Hong Kong, where a heavy unease hung in the air. For months, young people had taken to the streets to protest the encroachment of the Chinese Communist Party on what was supposed to be a self-governing, democratic system. On walls they had scrawled: “Save Hong Kong! If we burn you burn with us!” All the protesters I spoke to knew their movement would fail; it was a last assertion of democratic identity before it was extinguished by a new order that saw democracy as the enemy within.
I met with a government official preparing to resign and told him I was writing a book about the rise of authoritarian nationalism. “The nationalism in the U.S. and Europe is somewhat different,” he told me. “Yours started with the financial crisis in 2008. That’s when liberalism started to lose its appeal, when people saw this wasn’t working. The narrative of liberalism and democracy collapsed. This spilled over into China, too. This is when China started to think — should we really follow a Western model?” We were sitting in a hotel lounge, the invisible forces he described surrounding us: capitalism, but not democracy; cultural elites cloistered away from the working class. “The nationalist movements in East and West were both a response to the collapse of the Western model,” he added.
Everything I’d experienced told me he was right. Eight years serving in the Obama White House after the financial crisis felt like swimming upstream, against the currents of global politics. A radicalized Republican Party rejected liberal democracy at home, mirroring far-right leaders like Prime Minister Viktor Orban of Hungary who spoke about installing “illiberal democracy” (a polite term for “blood and soil” nationalism) across Europe. In Russia, Vladimir Putin set out to undermine — if not dismantle — the liberal order helmed by the United States. In China, Xi Jinping began to shift Beijing’s strategy from rising within that order to building a separate one, drained of democratic values. Barack Obama’s political skills and cultural appeal allowed him to navigate those currents, but they didn’t always transfer to other Democrats.
Donald Trump’s first victory challenged my liberal assumptions about the inevitability of a certain kind of progress: “The arc of the moral universe is long, but it bends toward justice.” For eight years outside of government, I have talked to opposition figures around the world and heard versions of the same story everywhere. After the Cold War, globalization chipped away at people’s sense of security and identity.
In the West, neoliberalism — that blend of free trade, deregulation and deference to financial markets — hollowed out communities while enriching a global oligarchy. Meanwhile, a homogenized and often crass popular culture eroded traditional national and religious identities. After 9/11, the war on terror was embraced by autocrats such as Mr. Putin, who used it as a frame to justify power grabs while forever wars fueled mass migration. The financial crisis came through like a hurricane, wrecking the lives of people already struggling to get by while the rich profited on the back end. Then social media’s explo
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I guess we're not Trumptards, not having been sued or fired.
*****
In part, a ridiculous rewrite of history.
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I stopped trying to help Trumptards solve their problems.
Translation: I was wrong but I'm too chickenshit to admit it.
True.
Well... at least he had enough testosterone and/or self-delusion to stay on the website.
Ted's only presence here since they started counting the votes Tuesday night was to tell Brenda that everyone who voted for Trump is stupid and evil in the tag section.
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What do tax cuts on the rich accomplish? Can you guess?
By Kevin Drum | Nov 11, 2024
https://jabberwocking.com/what-do-tax-cuts-on-the-rich-accomplish-can-
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"The economic consequences of major tax cuts for the rich" is a research study that came out a few years ago. But I missed it then and it's never too late to catch up. The authors set out to examine all instances of major tax reductions on the rich in 18 OECD countries between 1965 and 2015 and identify the results.
I don't want to keep you in suspense, so here's the impact of the tax cuts on economic growth:
There was no noticeable affect on growth. Or on unemployment. So what did the tax cuts accomplish?
Surprise! Lower taxes on the rich make the rich richer. And that's about it. Here it is in more detail:
We find that major tax cuts for the rich push up income inequality, as measured by the top 1% share of pre-tax national income. The size of the effect is substantial: on average, each major tax cut results in a rise of over 0.7 percentage points in top 1% share of pre-tax national income.
On the income inequality side, the results do not closely align with the theory that the rich have greater incentives to work and invest when their taxes are cut, given that we do not find any statistically significant effects on growth, unemployment or investment from cutting taxes on the rich. Given our measure of income inequality includes both realized capital gains and labor income, it is also unlikely the results are being driven by tax avoidance, because a significant part of avoidance takes the form of shifting income into capital (Piketty et al., 2014). Rather, our results are most consistent with Piketty et al.’s argument that lower taxes on top incomes induce the rich to bargain more aggressively to increase their own rewards, to the direct detriment of those lower down the income distribution.
There you have it. Tax cuts on the rich just make them even greedier and more predatory. And we've got another one coming thanks to Donald Trump's huge success with working class voters. As H.L. Mencken put it, "Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard." America's common people are about to learn that lesson anew.
(In Truth, the common folk learn nothing and understand nothing, but that would be too depressing for Democrats who believe the voters they are attempting to woo could never be that stupid.)
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
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I'm not even going to bother updating vote counts by state today. Everybody's back to work after the weekend and they've still only counted about half a million votes today.
Popular Vote Count: 74,847,435 for Trump (50.4%) / 71,259,635 for Harris (48.0%)
TOTAL VOTES: 146,107,070
Trump's lead: 3,587,800
What's left to count?
California: 28%
Alaska: 20%
Utah: 14%
Maryland: 14%
Oregon: 13%
Washington: 9%
Washington D.C.: 7%
Colorado: 5%
New Jersey: 5%
Nevada: 4%
Illinois: 2%
Mississippi: 2%
Nebraska: 2%
New Hampshire: 2%
Connecticut: 2%
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Nobody wants to hear any of Kevin Drum's bullshit today or ever again.
If Democrats were in any way capable of doing anything that Kevin says they are, they wouldn't have lost this election in a landslide.
America hates the Democrat Party.
Fix it, or don't ever win an election again.
Meanwhile, shut the fuck up. We're done hearing from any of you until you have something important to say.
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SECOND must really hate paying taxes when he thinks nobody else is. But since it's his only claim to being a human being Pharisee, I guess he'll just have to keep on.
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I do not believe that the Democrats thought they would have to steal an election in Alaska to keep the house, so I'm pretty confident the Republicans will be running the House as well after AK's District 1 is finally called, if they didn't already get 218 somewhere else.
There are still quite a few tight races in California, with Districts 13, 41 and 45 being the most likely to go Republican. A D6 pickup is still possible in Arizona, although Maine District 2 looks very unlikely for Republicans at this point.
I'm not going to predict the final count, but I will predict that Republicans should at least get the house without any problems. Possibly not by a safe margin with 2 or 3 additional above 218 for a buffer should somebody retire. Or even worse, a NeoCon Bushite flips Democrat.
Republicans will need to keep this in mind and make sure they dump some money into a real ground game whenever this scenario pops up. Republicans have a horrible historical turnout for special elections and Democrats dominate them.
They'd also better make a plan to get out the vote in the Midterms as well. Democrats killed Republicans on the ground game in the 2022 Midterms.
Although a large part of that was because the idiot formerly running the RNC was in cahoots with the Never-Trump NeoCons. They were purposefully losing races with Trump friendly picks, while pouring money into races that didn't matter. At least this should not happen again in 2026.
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Trump just crossed 75 Million votes a little while ago. His vote share is down to 50.3% now, with Harris at 48.1%. 76% of California is reported, and Harris now has a 20.8% lead on Trump in the state.
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Quote:Look, bonehead Signym, the W-2 keeps employees mostly honest since they know the IRS knows their income. But the employer of those employees can make the corporation's income whatever he wants. That is how Trump cheats on his income tax, by sending in false reports. He has even been caught doing that, but in reverse, by claiming to be absurdly richer than he actually was.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
SECOND must really hate paying taxes when he thinks nobody else is. But since it's his only claim to being ahuman beingPharisee, I guess he'll just have to keep on.
Trump’s fraudulent financial statements were key to getting loans, former bank official says
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/donald-trumps-fraudulent-financi
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Why Trump Won
(Democrats Need To Be As Fake As Trump if they want to win. Being truthful, honest, realistic and thoughtful brings defeat.)
https://jabberwocking.com/jack-herrera-on-latinos-and-the-democratic-p
arty/
There was nothing Joe Biden could do about inflation, for example, so he decided his best bet was to stay quiet about it. But that's not what people want to hear. They want to hear that you're mad as hell and by God you're going to fight it.
Or take NAFTA. Trump has no intention of repealing it. Hell, it was passed by Republicans in 1993 and Trump signed an expansion of NAFTA when he was in office. But that never stopped him from yelling loudly about how unfair it was and promising to do something about it.
Here's how the power of rhetoric works:
What Trump Says: NAFTA is the worst deal ever.
What They Hear: I'll protect American workers from Mexicans.
What Trump Says: We'll deport 20 million illegal immigrants.
What They Hear: I'll get rid of the cheap labor that's stealing your jobs.
What Trump Says: We'll cut taxes.
What They Hear: I'll cut your taxes.
What Trump Says: Inflation is killing us.
What They Hear: I'll never let inflation happen again.
What Trump Says: Tariffs as far as the eye can see.
What They Hear: I'll punish China for taking away our manufacturing jobs.
(Pay attention! This is where being truthful, honest, realistic, and thoughtful brings defeat.)
Now, the truth is that
(a) although a modest number of factory workers lost their jobs under NAFTA, it was responsible for almost no net job losses,
(b) illegal immigrants don't compete for the same jobs as native workers,
(c) Republican tax cuts focus almost exclusively on corporations and the rich,
(d) Trump has no influence over inflation,
(e) China really did take away a lot of manufacturing jobs in the aughts. But tariffs won't bring them back.
But who cares about the truth? I don't even mean that sarcastically, either. People mostly want to know which side are you on? Democrats are keenly aware of this when it comes to gay issues, trans issues, race issues, union issues, and so forth. Did Biden walking a picket line actually help UAW workers get a better contract? Of course not. Did it get a lot of UAW votes anyway? You bet.
For some reason, though, Democrats have long been unable to understand this when it comes to the working class. I don't mean that they disparage working class voters. They don't. But they don't loudly promote their interests either—not economic interests and not cultural interests. A $25,000 tax credit for first-time home buyers? Come on. Nobody understands that. Sex change surgery for trans prisoners? Please. You think this is unfair? It's not. Kamala Harris "strongly" supported it of her own free will in 2019 because she thought it would appeal to the college educated lefties that made up her base. And it was official policy under both Obama and Biden.
I believe pretty strongly that, in reality, neither party is able to do much for the working class. Biden did a little bit for them by increasing subsidies for Obamacare, but that's probably about as much as any president has done this century. Harris actually came close with her long-term care proposal, and might have made a splash if she had flat-out endorsed Medicare covering all long-term care. But she didn't.
Still, for a variety of reasons, I remain skeptical of the argument that Trump won because of the economy. One reason that gets too little attention is the comparison between Biden and Ronald Reagan. Both faced high inflation, high unemployment, and slack wages, and both presided over an improving economy by the end of their first term. But Biden and Harris presided over a way better economy: inflation at 2.4% compared to 4.2%; unemployment at 4.1% compared to 7.2%; and blue collar wages up 5% over five years compared to down 10%. And yet Reagan won a
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Actually, the President of the USA could do a lot for the working class. But it would require more than indirect measures (i.e. repatriating cash to American shores thru business tax cuts, making imports more expensive thru tariffs, dropping the price of energy in the USA, making productive investment here more attractive). It would require specific, targeted government reshoring mandates (i.e. like the chip industry).
In some ways, dropping the value of the dollar would help. I look at how Germany was de-industrialized and especially how Russia re-industrialized. Kicking Russia off SWIFT created the kind if capital controls that governments dream of, since the ruble was forced to stay at home, and it had no place else to go except at-home investment.
Surely, we can't be outdone by Russia, right?
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But the employer of those employees can make the corporation's income whatever he wants.
And why is that?
You're not telling me anything I dont know, son.
Ive complained about the unequal treatment of individuals v business, starting with the fact that businesses get to deduct their expenses from their receipts and individuals, for the most part, don't.
Why is our tax law so complex? LEGAL loopholes written by Congress for lobbyists and donors. IMHO, if busineses have the same rights as individuals, they should have the same responsibilities, the same taxes, be required to adhere to the same laws, and face the same punishments. But they don't and they aren't. Publicly held companies really only have one responsibility, and that is (supposedly) a fiduciary duty to their shareholders.
If you don't like business law, complain about Congress, not about Trump and Buffet and Chase bank and Exxon who take advantage of it.
Dummy.
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Quote:It is NOT Congress. It is Trump-supporting Republicans doing this. The enforcement budget for the IRS shrinks year by year, with fewer and fewer auditors who are paid only 1% of what Trump pays his tax lawyers. The best IRS auditors quit because of low pay and become lawyers for tax cheaters.
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If you don't like business law, complain about Congress, not about Trump and Buffet and Chase bank and Exxon who take advantage of it.
Dummy.
IRS loses $20.2 billion in funding
March 26, 2024
https://www.grantthornton.com/insights/newsletters/tax/2024/hot-topics
/mar-26/irs-loses-billion-in-funding
The IRS annual budget will remain flat at $12.3 billion for fiscal 2024, but the agency will officially lose $20.2 billion more of the $80 billion special allocation enacted as part of the Inflation Reduction Act (IRA).
Republicans have made IRS funding a popular political talking point and have successfully chipped away at the $80 billion allocation since the IRA was enacted:
Republicans initially secured a $275 million 2% cut in annual funding for fiscal year 2023 (which is now repeated in flat fiscal 2024 funding).
The debt limit deal last June rescinded $1.4 billion in IRA funding immediately with a handshake agreement to claw back $10 billion in each of fiscal 2024 and 2025.
Republicans later secured an agreement to claw back the entire $20 billion in fiscal 2024, which is now fulfilled by the $20.2 rescission in the current minibus.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
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Stop complaining about enforcement. That's just a diversion from the real problem.
If you simplify tax code, you simplify enforcement. Don't forget, you're posting to someone who used to be on the rule-writing and enforcement end of business regulation.
Clearly, you don't know how the real world works.
And last I checked, tax law had to be passed by a majority.
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Quote:You were in pollution. How do you hide dirty water and air? You don't. But income can be hidden. The tax enforcers have to contend with subterfuge and with highly paid but morally bankrupt accountants who will certify whatever numbers the tax-cheater pulls out of his ass. They will even create vast amounts of documentation, totally fictional, to prove the fake numbers are real. And the result? Income hidden. Tax doesn't get paid on hidden income. If polluters could hide pollution with paperwork, they'd do it.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Stop complaining about enforcement. That's just a diversion from the real problem.
If you simplify tax code, you simplify enforcement. Don't forget, you're posting to someone who used to be on the rule-writing and enforcement end of business regulation.
Clearly, you don't know how the real world works.
And last I checked, tax law had to be passed by a majority.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
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Why Does No One Understand the Real Reason Trump Won?
It wasn’t the economy. It wasn’t inflation, or anything else. It was how people perceive those things, which points to one overpowering answer.
Weren’t they bothered that Trump is a convicted felon? An adjudicated rapist? Didn’t his invocation of violence against Liz Cheney, or 50 other examples of his disgusting imprecations, obviously disqualify him? And couldn’t they see that Harris, whatever her shortcomings, was a fundamentally smart, honest, well-meaning person who would show basic respect for the Constitution and wouldn’t do anything weird as president?
The answer is obviously no—not enough people were able to see any of those things. At which point people throw up their hands and say, “I give up.”
But this line of analysis requires that we ask one more question. And it’s the crucial one: Why didn’t a majority of voters see these things? And understanding the answer to that question is how we start to dig out of this tragic mess.
The answer is the right-wing media. Today, the right-wing media—Fox News (and the entire News Corp.), Newsmax, One America News Network, the Sinclair network of radio and TV stations and newspapers, iHeart Media (formerly Clear Channel), the Bott Radio Network (Christian radio), Elon Musk’s X, the huge podcasts like Joe Rogan’s, and much more—sets the news agenda in this country.
More here. https://newrepublic.com/post/188197/trump-media-information-landscape-
fox
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Why Does No One Understand the Real Reason Trump Won?
It wasn’t the economy. It wasn’t inflation, or anything else. It was how people perceive those things, which points to one overpowering answer.
Weren’t they bothered that Trump is a convicted felon? An adjudicated rapist? Didn’t his invocation of violence against Liz Cheney, or 50 other examples of his disgusting imprecations, obviously disqualify him? And couldn’t they see that Harris, whatever her shortcomings, was a fundamentally smart, honest, well-meaning person who would show basic respect for the Constitution and wouldn’t do anything weird as president?
The answer is obviously no—not enough people were able to see any of those things. At which point people throw up their hands and say, “I give up.”
But this line of analysis requires that we ask one more question. And it’s the crucial one: Why didn’t a majority of voters see these things? And understanding the answer to that question is how we start to dig out of this tragic mess.
The answer is the right-wing media. Today, the right-wing media—Fox News (and the entire News Corp.), Newsmax, One America News Network, the Sinclair network of radio and TV stations and newspapers, iHeart Media (formerly Clear Channel), the Bott Radio Network (Christian radio), Elon Musk’s X, the huge podcasts like Joe Rogan’s, and much more—sets the news agenda in this country.
More here. https://newrepublic.com/post/188197/trump-media-information-landscape-
fox
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
We saw those things. We don't care. We don't trust you. We don't trust the Media. We certainly don't trust Democrats.
Complain some more that you can't censor people who don't agree with you, Nazi.
If people didn't see their quality of life go down the drain in the last 4 years, Harris would be President right now.
You suck. Everything you do sucks. Everything you say is a lie.
Stop putting the blame on everyone but yourselves.
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P.S. Democrats lost the house too.
219R / 209D. 218 to win.
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Quote:So can individual sources of pollution. By falsifying records. "Midnight dumping". Modifying processes eg. turning off incinerators or opening dampers. Switching suppliers. Accusing the accuser. Making the agency prove every dot and jot of evidence. Chain of custody. Technical details. Like the OJ Simpson trial. Dividing responsibility. Fighting citations or criminal charges either passively or actively.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Stop complaining about enforcement. That's just a diversion from the real problem.
If you simplify tax code, you simplify enforcement. Don't forget, you're posting to someone who used to be on the rule-writing and enforcement end of business regulation.
Clearly, you don't know how the real world works.
And last I checked, tax law had to be passed by a majority.
SECOND: You were in pollution. How do you hide dirty water and air? You don't. But income can be hidden.
You think Home Depot or BOArco don't have the resources to cheat and to fight? From money laundering, Mafia owned businesses to industrial giants like Bethlehem Steel on their way down. It's not my first rodeo, son. And my dad, who was a sales tax auditor, saw it all.
But I was referring to the process of writing laws and regulations. They would be so much simpler if every business didn't lobby to carve out exceptions for themselves. Seen crooked politicians accepting money for consideration.
Like I said, not my first rodeo. And you OBVIOUSLY don't know how the real world works. Son.
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All I know is that I've got enough microplastics inside of me to melt down and make a LEGO Millennium Falcon when I get cremated, so somebody at the EPA hasn't been doing their fucking job.
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POPULAR VOTE COUNT: 75,145,517 Trump (50.3%) / 71,884,039 Harris (48.1%)
Still needs counting...
California: 24% remains
Alaska: 20% remains
Oregon: 13% remains
Utah: 13% remains
Washington: 8% remains
Washington D.C.: 7% remains
Maryland: 7% remains
Colorado: 5% remains
Arizona: 5% remains
New Jersey: 5% remains
Nevada: 3% remains
Nebraska: 2% remains
Mississippi: 2% remains
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Wow. We won't know what the actual popular vote was until after New Years at the rate Democrats count.
75,175,276 for Trump / 71,933,375 for Harris.
That's like 80,000 votes counted in almost 2.5 hours.
Why are you so broken, West Coast?
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Quote:Signym, you are not Erin Brockovich. Personal injury lawyers could do what your department would never attempt. But then the lawyers became fabulously wealthy, unlike employees in your department who get paid the same piddling amount whether they do a half-ass job or nothing about pollution.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
But I was referring to the process of writing laws and regulations. They would be so much simpler if every business didn't lobby to carve out exceptions for themselves. Seen crooked politicians accepting money for consideration.
Like I said, not my first rodeo. And you OBVIOUSLY don't know how the real world works. Son.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erin_Brockovich#Pacific_Gas_&_Electr
ic_litigation
Bringing this back around to the tax code, IRS employees make exactly the same piddling amount whether they do a half-ass job or nothing about tax cheating. Unsurprisingly, that is why tax cheating runs to a trillion dollars per year.
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/04/13/business/irs-tax-gap.html
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
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