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Elections; 2024

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Sunday, November 10, 2024 10:05 PM

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Originally posted by second:
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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
How's it feel to be a minority, Second?



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Trump is fine.
He is also your current President.

You probably forgot this, but I was raised in family that switched religions from Baptist to Jehovah's Witnesses, a minority religion where followers do NOT vote and have been jailed (in America and Russia) for their beliefs. You also forgot that my angry poor white trash relatives who did not switch religions went on to become Trumptards who struggled, suffered, and died young.



Salty, salty, salty.

Careful ladies... this one will give you high blood pressure.



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Sunday, November 10, 2024 11:19 PM

Senate: 53R / 47D

House: 216R / 208D. 218 to win.

Popular vote is now 74,696,256 for Trump, 70,967,637 for Harris.

TOTAL VOTES COUNTED: 145,663,893

TRUMP LEAD (POPULAR VOTE): 3,728,619


What remains to be counted?

California: 34% [11,807,430 counted out of 17.9 Million / 6.1 Million remain]
Alaska: 23% [245,026 counted out of 335,000 / 90,000 remain]
Maryland: 14% [2,634,574 counted out of 3,025,000 / 390,000 remain]
Arizona: 13% [2,965,288 counted out of 3.4 Million / 435,000 remain]
Oregon: 13% [2,016,501 counted out of 2.3 Million / 300,000 remain]
Utah: 12% [1,291,611 counted out of 1.45 Million / 160,000 remain]
Washington: 9% [3,459,180 counted out of 3.8 Million / 350,000 remain]
Colorado: 6% [3,027,990 counted out of 3.22 Million / 200,000 remain]
New Jersey: 5% [4,043,152 counted out of 4.25 Million / 200,000 remain]
New York: 3% [7,796,688 counted out of 8 Million / 200,000 remain]
Illinois: 2% [5,284,812 counted out of 5.39 Million / 100,000 remain]

These are all incidental and won't add much to the counts...

District of Columbia: 7%
Nevada: 4%
New Hampshire: 2%
Nebraska: 2%
Mississippi: 2%
Connecticut: 2%

TOTAL UNCOUNTED VOTES (ROUGH): 8.525 Million


Add that to the existing 145,663,893 and we're at 154.19 Million.

The total vote count in 2020 was 155,506,285.

I don't want to hear one more fucking thing from any of the idiots about how there were 15 Million missing votes this year.

Now it looks like just shy of 1.5 Million votes less than 2020, or less than 10% what the YouTube idiots have been claiming the last few days.




I'm sure we're now going to have low-info voters on the right screaming that the Democrats were stuffing ballots to get the vote count up last minute or some such nonsense, because they've been lied to all week about the vote count.

No morons. Democrats don't cheat if there is nothing to gain from the cheating. You were just mislead by idiots and/or lied to all week.

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Sunday, November 10, 2024 11:51 PM

Now I've taken the remaining uncounted vote share by state and used the rough percentages to project who those votes are going toward. You'll notice that these numbers don't add up to 100%, and that makes sense because there are other people on the ballot besides Trump and Harris. I feel with my rounding I've probably been overgenerous with the votes I'm giving Harris just to be on the safe side.

California: 34% [6.1 Million remain] (Trump: 2,379,000 / Harris: 3,599,000)
Alaska: 23% [90,000 remain] (Trump: 49,500 / Harris: 36,900)
Maryland: 14% [390,000 remain] (Trump: 140,400/ Harris: 241,800)
Arizona: 13% [435,000 remain] (Trump: 226,200 / Harris: 200,100)
Oregon: 13% [300,000 remain] (Trump: 123,000 / Harris: 168,000)
Utah: 12% [160,000 remain] (Trump: 94,400 / Harris: 60,800)
Washington: 9% [350,000 remain] (Trump: 136,500 / Harris: 203,000)
Colorado: 6% [200,000 remain] (Trump: 86,000 / Harris: 108,000)
New Jersey: 5% [200,000 remain] (Trump: 92,000 / Harris: 104,000)
New York: 3% [200,000 remain] (Trump: 84,000 / Harris: 112,000)
Illinois: 2% [100,000 remain] (Trump: 45,000 / Harris: 54,000)

Total UNCOUNTED votes: TRUMP: 3,426,000 / HARRIS: 4,887,600

Add these to the votes we already have counted and it looks like this:

TRUMP: 78.125 Million / HARRIS: 75.855 Million


If close to the truth, which I'm sure it is, this means that Trump wins the Popular Vote by well over 2 Million votes. My count here is 2.27 Million is Trump's surplus.



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Monday, November 11, 2024 12:10 AM

“As democracy is perfected, the office of the President represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day, the plain folks of the land will reach their heart’s desire at last, and the White House will be occupied by a downright fool and complete narcissistic moron.”
—H. L. Mencken, The Baltimore Evening Sun, July 26, 1920

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/mencken-white-house-quote/ explains how that quote has been embellished.

The full quote:

The larger the mob, the harder the test. In small areas, before small electorates, a first-rate man occasionally fights his way through, carrying even the mob with him by force of his personality. But when the field is nationwide, and the fight must be waged chiefly at second and third hand, and the force of personality cannot so readily make itself felt, then all the odds are on the man who is, intrinsically, the most devious and mediocre — the man who can most easily adeptly disperse the notion that his mind is a virtual vacuum.

The Presidency tends, year by year, to go to such men. As democracy is perfected, the office represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. We move toward a lofty ideal. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last, and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Monday, November 11, 2024 12:14 AM

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As democracy is perfected



That's your mistake right there.

Democrats destroy Democracy. The march toward "Progress" is a march toward losing America.

We are DONE with you.

You'd better fix your fucking party or they're not going to get back in office for a very, very long time. Especially not after you start breaking apart because nobody in your party even agrees with each other on anything.


I don't blame Democrats for not having an idea why they failed so hard. There's about a million reasons that they need to add up. But they're not going to figure any of that out before they finish their grieving process and move into the acceptance stage that America hates Democrats.

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Monday, November 11, 2024 12:16 AM

Liberals had nine years to decipher Mr. Trump’s appeal — and they failed. The Democrats are a party of college graduates, as the whole world understands by now, of PhD's and genius-grant winners and the best consultants money can buy. Mr. Trump is a con man straight out of Mark Twain; he will say anything, promise anything, do nothing. But his movement baffled the party of education and innovation. Their most brilliant minds couldn’t figure him out.

I have been writing about these things for 20 years, and I have begun to doubt that any combination of financial disaster or electoral chastisement will ever turn on the lightbulb for the liberals. I fear that ’90s-style centrism will march on, by a sociological force of its own, until the parties have entirely switched their social positions and the world is given over to Trumpism.

Can anything reverse it? Only a resolute determination by the Democratic Party to rededicate itself to the majoritarian vision of old: a Great Society of broad, inclusive prosperity. This means universal health care and a higher minimum wage. It means robust financial regulation and antitrust enforcement. It means unions and a welfare state and higher taxes on billionaires, even the cool ones. It means, above all, liberalism as a social movement, as a coming-together of ordinary people — not a series of top-down reforms by well-meaning professionals.

That seems a long way away today. But the alternative is — what? To blame the voters? To scold the world for failing to see how noble we are? No. It will take the opposite sentiment — solidarity — to turn the world right-side up again.

Thomas Frank

Mr. Frank is the author of “What’s the Matter With Kansas?” among other books.

https://attentiontotheunseen.com/2024/11/09/the-elites-had-it-coming/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Monday, November 11, 2024 12:20 AM

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Their most brilliant minds couldn’t figure him out.



Fuck you, Frank.

Brilliance is vastly overrated.

These people are fucking clowns just like the rest of us. Nobody respects their piece of paper they got from their Ivy League brainwashing chambers anymore.

They all did what Allan Lichtman did. Distorted facts and stats to give them their desired outcome. They drank their own Kool-Aid for way too long.


A dumb-ass, ex-drunk, 4-time college dropout called the election nearly 100% perfect from his attic while smoking cigarettes and drinking coffee. (The only thing I got wrong was that Trump won the popular vote by well over 2 Million, not the 1 Million I predicted). None of you "brilliant" fucks with your half-Million dollar college degrees were able to do that. None of you were even close to reality.


This election was a referendum on college education in the 21st century.

If you aren't a doctor, a lawyer, an engineer or a politician, you wasted your time and money on college.

You are just a stupid person with a piece of paper to hang on the wall and ton of student debt.

And now, because your college brainwashing is running in overdrive, you are very, very depressed on top of it.



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Monday, November 11, 2024 1:43 AM

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
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Originally posted by second:
As democracy is perfected



That's your mistake right there.

Democrats destroy Democracy. The march toward "Progress" is a march toward losing America.

We are DONE with you.

You'd better fix your fucking party or they're not going to get back in office for a very, very long time. Especially not after you start breaking apart because nobody in your party even agrees with each other on anything.


I don't blame Democrats for not having an idea why they failed so hard. There's about a million reasons that they need to add up. But they're not going to figure any of that out before they finish their grieving process and move into the acceptance stage that America hates Democrats.

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From Trump’s victory, a simple, inescapable message: many people despise the left

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2024/nov/10/donald-trump-the
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There is no need to pick only a few of the many explanations of Donald Trump’s political comeback. Most of the endless reasons we have heard over the past five days ring true: inflation, incumbency, a flimsy Democratic campaign, white Americans’ seemingly eternal issues with race, and what one New York Times essayist recently called “a regressive idea of masculinity in which power over women is a birthright”. But there is another story that has so far been rather more overlooked, to do with how politics now works, and who voters think of when they enter the polling booth.

Its most vivid element is about the left, and one inescapable fact: that a lot of people simply do not like us. In the UK, that is part of the reason why Brexit happened, why Nigel Farage is back, and why our new Labour government feels so flimsy and fragile. In the US, it goes some way to explaining why more than 75 million voters just rejected the supposedly progressive option, and chose a convicted criminal and unabashed insurrectionist to oversee their lives.




This dude is a "progressive" looney tune for sure, but outside of rare moments of lucidity and warnings to Democrats before the election out of Bill Maher, he's the first person from the Left that I've seen that even comes close to hitting the nail on the head.

Careful there, John. You keep going down that little rabbit hole that you found you might just surface one day as a Trump supporter yourself.



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Monday, November 11, 2024 2:11 AM

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Trump Takes AZ, Completes Sweep Of All Swing States; CNN Says Victory Was So Massive He "Broke History"

Sunday, Nov 10, 2024 - 05:45 AM

President-elect Donald Trump has won Arizona, completing a sweep of all seven battleground in the 2024 election.

. . .
CNN’s data analyst Harry Enten did a deep dive into the gains president Trump made with specific demographics in the election, highlighting how crushing they were for Democrats.

The numbers are truly astounding, and incredibly bad for the party of ‘joy.’

Enten pointed out that Trump made the greatest improvements over a previous presidential election performance from the same party since 1992.

“When was the last time a party gained in so many different places?” Enten asked, explaining that “You have to go all the way to back to 1992 when Bill Clinton improved on Michael Dukakis’ performance in 49 states, plus the District of Columbia.”

“Donald Trump’s performance on Tuesday was the best for a Republican presidential candidate in exit poll history,” Enten further urged, adding “He literally goes all the way back through history and breaks history.”

Enten pointed to how Trump improved his party’s election performance in 49 states and Washington, D.C. over the 2020 election, with Washington state the single one where he didn’t do better.

“You know, I think the breadth of the improvement that Donald Trump had – Holy Toledo!” Enten declared.



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"It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal." - Henry Kissinger


AMERICANS SUPPORT AMERICA

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Monday, November 11, 2024 2:26 AM

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:

A dumb-ass, ex-drunk, 4-time college dropout called the election nearly 100% perfect from his attic while smoking cigarettes and drinking coffee. (The only thing I got wrong was that Trump won the popular vote by well over 2 Million, not the 1 Million I predicted). None of you "brilliant" fucks with your half-Million dollar college degrees were able to do that. None of you were even close to reality.

If you were as prescience as claimed, you would have made a fortune betting on Trump:

The Trump-Whim Economy Is Here

Expectations of who will gain, and who will lose, from the president-elect’s second term are already moving markets.

By James Surowiecki | November 10, 2024, 8 AM ET

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2024/11/wall-street-trump-wh
im-economy/680605
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Donald Trump is a crypto bro who’s going to cut taxes and regulations, loves big banks and corporate mergers, doesn’t care about deficits, loves oil and hates wind and solar, and might actually let RFK Jr. do some kooky health stuff. That, roughly speaking, is the picture of Trump that you get when you look at how markets reacted this week to his reelection as president of the United States. In other words, the markets are saying that he’s pretty much who many of us thought he was.

The immediately obvious conclusion to draw from the fact that the stock market spiked on news of Trump’s win—with all three major indexes hitting record highs—is that traders think he’s going to be very good for business. But traders were not simply buying stocks across the board; they were pouring money into assets they think will benefit from the next Trump presidency, while punishing those they think will be hurt by it.

The sheer number of sectors—and individual stocks—that traders seem to believe will be affected by Trump winning is striking. It reflects Trump’s stated intention and willingness to use executive power in an unfettered way. So what we’re seeing is the traders scrambling to try to read Trump’s mind—because they need to figure out how his whims might shape the fate of multibillion-dollar companies.

Some version of this market response happens after every election: Government policy has a big impact on business outcomes, and traders’ job is to anticipate that impact on their holdings. It’s also worth remembering that the stock market rose sharply in 2020 after Joe Biden’s victory looked assured, so some of this week’s rise is probably the result of traders’ relief that we’re not headed for months of legal challenges and conflict over who won. But going by what he has said over the course of the campaign, Trump has very ambitious plans.

Most starkly, he has promised to impose across-the-board tariffs on almost all imported goods, and 60 percent tariffs on Chinese imported goods in particular, and to deport millions of undocumented immigrants. Much of this Trump can direct on his own account, without seeking congressional approval.

The stock market is therefore working overtime to parse his various campaign promises: which it should take seriously and which it can ignore. For instance, one promise that traders seem to be comfortable ignoring is Trump’s vow to let Elon Musk slash trillions of dollars in federal spending. (Musk has claimed, improbably, that he can cut “at least $2 trillion,” mainly by getting rid of government waste.) If traders actually believed that was going to happen, the market would have sold off steeply, because government budget cuts of such magnitude would send the economy into a deep recession.

Instead, the market believes Trump is going to do the opposite: Far from embracing austerity, Trump is likely to cut taxes and increase spending, pouring more money into the economy. That would increase the risk of inflation—ironically, given the fact that Trump won in large part because voters were angry with Biden and Kamala Harris over high prices—which is why, on the first day of trading after Trump’s election, interest rates on 30-year Tr

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