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Elections; 2024

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Tuesday, November 12, 2024 7:28 PM

Stop complaining about enforcement. That's just a diversion from the real problem.

If you simplify tax code, you simplify enforcement. Don't forget, you're posting to someone who used to be on the rule-writing and enforcement end of business regulation.

Clearly, you don't know how the real world works.

And last I checked, tax law had to be passed by a majority.

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Tuesday, November 12, 2024 11:46 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Stop complaining about enforcement. That's just a diversion from the real problem.

If you simplify tax code, you simplify enforcement. Don't forget, you're posting to someone who used to be on the rule-writing and enforcement end of business regulation.

Clearly, you don't know how the real world works.

And last I checked, tax law had to be passed by a majority.

You were in pollution. How do you hide dirty water and air? You don't. But income can be hidden. The tax enforcers have to contend with subterfuge and with highly paid but morally bankrupt accountants who will certify whatever numbers the tax-cheater pulls out of his ass. They will even create vast amounts of documentation, totally fictional, to prove the fake numbers are real. And the result? Income hidden. Tax doesn't get paid on hidden income. If polluters could hide pollution with paperwork, they'd do it.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Tuesday, November 12, 2024 11:49 PM

Why Does No One Understand the Real Reason Trump Won?

It wasn’t the economy. It wasn’t inflation, or anything else. It was how people perceive those things, which points to one overpowering answer.

Weren’t they bothered that Trump is a convicted felon? An adjudicated rapist? Didn’t his invocation of violence against Liz Cheney, or 50 other examples of his disgusting imprecations, obviously disqualify him? And couldn’t they see that Harris, whatever her shortcomings, was a fundamentally smart, honest, well-meaning person who would show basic respect for the Constitution and wouldn’t do anything weird as president?

The answer is obviously no—not enough people were able to see any of those things. At which point people throw up their hands and say, “I give up.”

But this line of analysis requires that we ask one more question. And it’s the crucial one: Why didn’t a majority of voters see these things? And understanding the answer to that question is how we start to dig out of this tragic mess.

The answer is the right-wing media. Today, the right-wing media—Fox News (and the entire News Corp.), Newsmax, One America News Network, the Sinclair network of radio and TV stations and newspapers, iHeart Media (formerly Clear Channel), the Bott Radio Network (Christian radio), Elon Musk’s X, the huge podcasts like Joe Rogan’s, and much more—sets the news agenda in this country.

More here. https://newrepublic.com/post/188197/trump-media-information-landscape-
fox


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Wednesday, November 13, 2024 12:49 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Why Does No One Understand the Real Reason Trump Won?

It wasn’t the economy. It wasn’t inflation, or anything else. It was how people perceive those things, which points to one overpowering answer.

Weren’t they bothered that Trump is a convicted felon? An adjudicated rapist? Didn’t his invocation of violence against Liz Cheney, or 50 other examples of his disgusting imprecations, obviously disqualify him? And couldn’t they see that Harris, whatever her shortcomings, was a fundamentally smart, honest, well-meaning person who would show basic respect for the Constitution and wouldn’t do anything weird as president?

The answer is obviously no—not enough people were able to see any of those things. At which point people throw up their hands and say, “I give up.”

But this line of analysis requires that we ask one more question. And it’s the crucial one: Why didn’t a majority of voters see these things? And understanding the answer to that question is how we start to dig out of this tragic mess.

The answer is the right-wing media. Today, the right-wing media—Fox News (and the entire News Corp.), Newsmax, One America News Network, the Sinclair network of radio and TV stations and newspapers, iHeart Media (formerly Clear Channel), the Bott Radio Network (Christian radio), Elon Musk’s X, the huge podcasts like Joe Rogan’s, and much more—sets the news agenda in this country.

More here. https://newrepublic.com/post/188197/trump-media-information-landscape-
fox


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two



We saw those things. We don't care. We don't trust you. We don't trust the Media. We certainly don't trust Democrats.

Complain some more that you can't censor people who don't agree with you, Nazi.

If people didn't see their quality of life go down the drain in the last 4 years, Harris would be President right now.

You suck. Everything you do sucks. Everything you say is a lie.

Stop putting the blame on everyone but yourselves.

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Wednesday, November 13, 2024 12:51 AM

P.S. Democrats lost the house too.

219R / 209D. 218 to win.



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Wednesday, November 13, 2024 12:52 AM


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Stop complaining about enforcement. That's just a diversion from the real problem.

If you simplify tax code, you simplify enforcement. Don't forget, you're posting to someone who used to be on the rule-writing and enforcement end of business regulation.

Clearly, you don't know how the real world works.
And last I checked, tax law had to be passed by a majority.

SECOND: You were in pollution. How do you hide dirty water and air? You don't. But income can be hidden.

So can individual sources of pollution. By falsifying records. "Midnight dumping". Modifying processes eg. turning off incinerators or opening dampers. Switching suppliers. Accusing the accuser. Making the agency prove every dot and jot of evidence. Chain of custody. Technical details. Like the OJ Simpson trial. Dividing responsibility. Fighting citations or criminal charges either passively or actively.

You think Home Depot or BOArco don't have the resources to cheat and to fight? From money laundering, Mafia owned businesses to industrial giants like Bethlehem Steel on their way down. It's not my first rodeo, son. And my dad, who was a sales tax auditor, saw it all.

But I was referring to the process of writing laws and regulations. They would be so much simpler if every business didn't lobby to carve out exceptions for themselves. Seen crooked politicians accepting money for consideration.

Like I said, not my first rodeo. And you OBVIOUSLY don't know how the real world works. Son.

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Wednesday, November 13, 2024 12:55 AM

All I know is that I've got enough microplastics inside of me to melt down and make a LEGO Millennium Falcon when I get cremated, so somebody at the EPA hasn't been doing their fucking job.



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Wednesday, November 13, 2024 1:21 AM

POPULAR VOTE COUNT: 75,145,517 Trump (50.3%) / 71,884,039 Harris (48.1%)

Still needs counting...

California: 24% remains
Alaska: 20% remains
Oregon: 13% remains
Utah: 13% remains
Washington: 8% remains
Washington D.C.: 7% remains
Maryland: 7% remains
Colorado: 5% remains
Arizona: 5% remains
New Jersey: 5% remains
Nevada: 3% remains
Nebraska: 2% remains
Mississippi: 2% remains


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Wednesday, November 13, 2024 3:43 AM

Wow. We won't know what the actual popular vote was until after New Years at the rate Democrats count.

75,175,276 for Trump / 71,933,375 for Harris.

That's like 80,000 votes counted in almost 2.5 hours.

Why are you so broken, West Coast?

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Wednesday, November 13, 2024 4:13 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:

But I was referring to the process of writing laws and regulations. They would be so much simpler if every business didn't lobby to carve out exceptions for themselves. Seen crooked politicians accepting money for consideration.

Like I said, not my first rodeo. And you OBVIOUSLY don't know how the real world works. Son.

Signym, you are not Erin Brockovich. Personal injury lawyers could do what your department would never attempt. But then the lawyers became fabulously wealthy, unlike employees in your department who get paid the same piddling amount whether they do a half-ass job or nothing about pollution.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erin_Brockovich#Pacific_Gas_&_Electr
ic_litigation


Bringing this back around to the tax code, IRS employees make exactly the same piddling amount whether they do a half-ass job or nothing about tax cheating. Unsurprisingly, that is why tax cheating runs to a trillion dollars per year.
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/04/13/business/irs-tax-gap.html

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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