Elections; 2024
POSTED BY: THG
UPDATED: Friday, November 21, 2025 00:12
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I'm not even going to bother updating vote counts by state today. Everybody's back to work after the weekend and they've still only counted about half a million votes today.
Popular Vote Count: 74,847,435 for Trump (50.4%) / 71,259,635 for Harris (48.0%)
TOTAL VOTES: 146,107,070
Trump's lead: 3,587,800
What's left to count?
California: 28%
Alaska: 20%
Utah: 14%
Maryland: 14%
Oregon: 13%
Washington: 9%
Washington D.C.: 7%
Colorado: 5%
New Jersey: 5%
Nevada: 4%
Illinois: 2%
Mississippi: 2%
Nebraska: 2%
New Hampshire: 2%
Connecticut: 2%
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Trump is fine.
He is also your current President. 
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Nobody wants to hear any of Kevin Drum's bullshit today or ever again.
If Democrats were in any way capable of doing anything that Kevin says they are, they wouldn't have lost this election in a landslide.
America hates the Democrat Party.
Fix it, or don't ever win an election again.
Meanwhile, shut the fuck up. We're done hearing from any of you until you have something important to say.
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Trump is fine.
He is also your current President.
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SECOND must really hate paying taxes when he thinks nobody else is. But since it's his only claim to being a human being Pharisee, I guess he'll just have to keep on.
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"It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal." - Henry Kissinger
AMERICANS SUPPORT AMERICA
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I do not believe that the Democrats thought they would have to steal an election in Alaska to keep the house, so I'm pretty confident the Republicans will be running the House as well after AK's District 1 is finally called, if they didn't already get 218 somewhere else.
There are still quite a few tight races in California, with Districts 13, 41 and 45 being the most likely to go Republican. A D6 pickup is still possible in Arizona, although Maine District 2 looks very unlikely for Republicans at this point.
I'm not going to predict the final count, but I will predict that Republicans should at least get the house without any problems. Possibly not by a safe margin with 2 or 3 additional above 218 for a buffer should somebody retire. Or even worse, a NeoCon Bushite flips Democrat.
Republicans will need to keep this in mind and make sure they dump some money into a real ground game whenever this scenario pops up. Republicans have a horrible historical turnout for special elections and Democrats dominate them.
They'd also better make a plan to get out the vote in the Midterms as well. Democrats killed Republicans on the ground game in the 2022 Midterms.
Although a large part of that was because the idiot formerly running the RNC was in cahoots with the Never-Trump NeoCons. They were purposefully losing races with Trump friendly picks, while pouring money into races that didn't matter. At least this should not happen again in 2026.
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Trump just crossed 75 Million votes a little while ago. His vote share is down to 50.3% now, with Harris at 48.1%. 76% of California is reported, and Harris now has a 20.8% lead on Trump in the state.
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Quote:Look, bonehead Signym, the W-2 keeps employees mostly honest since they know the IRS knows their income. But the employer of those employees can make the corporation's income whatever he wants. That is how Trump cheats on his income tax, by sending in false reports. He has even been caught doing that, but in reverse, by claiming to be absurdly richer than he actually was.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
SECOND must really hate paying taxes when he thinks nobody else is. But since it's his only claim to being ahuman beingPharisee, I guess he'll just have to keep on.
Trump’s fraudulent financial statements were key to getting loans, former bank official says
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/donald-trumps-fraudulent-financi
al-statements-were-key-to-getting-loans-former-bank-official-says
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
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Why Trump Won
(Democrats Need To Be As Fake As Trump if they want to win. Being truthful, honest, realistic and thoughtful brings defeat.)
https://jabberwocking.com/jack-herrera-on-latinos-and-the-democratic-p
arty/
There was nothing Joe Biden could do about inflation, for example, so he decided his best bet was to stay quiet about it. But that's not what people want to hear. They want to hear that you're mad as hell and by God you're going to fight it.
Or take NAFTA. Trump has no intention of repealing it. Hell, it was passed by Republicans in 1993 and Trump signed an expansion of NAFTA when he was in office. But that never stopped him from yelling loudly about how unfair it was and promising to do something about it.
Here's how the power of rhetoric works:
What Trump Says: NAFTA is the worst deal ever.
What They Hear: I'll protect American workers from Mexicans.
What Trump Says: We'll deport 20 million illegal immigrants.
What They Hear: I'll get rid of the cheap labor that's stealing your jobs.
What Trump Says: We'll cut taxes.
What They Hear: I'll cut your taxes.
What Trump Says: Inflation is killing us.
What They Hear: I'll never let inflation happen again.
What Trump Says: Tariffs as far as the eye can see.
What They Hear: I'll punish China for taking away our manufacturing jobs.
(Pay attention! This is where being truthful, honest, realistic, and thoughtful brings defeat.)
Now, the truth is that
(a) although a modest number of factory workers lost their jobs under NAFTA, it was responsible for almost no net job losses,
(b) illegal immigrants don't compete for the same jobs as native workers,
(c) Republican tax cuts focus almost exclusively on corporations and the rich,
(d) Trump has no influence over inflation,
(e) China really did take away a lot of manufacturing jobs in the aughts. But tariffs won't bring them back.
But who cares about the truth? I don't even mean that sarcastically, either. People mostly want to know which side are you on? Democrats are keenly aware of this when it comes to gay issues, trans issues, race issues, union issues, and so forth. Did Biden walking a picket line actually help UAW workers get a better contract? Of course not. Did it get a lot of UAW votes anyway? You bet.
For some reason, though, Democrats have long been unable to understand this when it comes to the working class. I don't mean that they disparage working class voters. They don't. But they don't loudly promote their interests either—not economic interests and not cultural interests. A $25,000 tax credit for first-time home buyers? Come on. Nobody understands that. Sex change surgery for trans prisoners? Please. You think this is unfair? It's not. Kamala Harris "strongly" supported it of her own free will in 2019 because she thought it would appeal to the college educated lefties that made up her base. And it was official policy under both Obama and Biden.
I believe pretty strongly that, in reality, neither party is able to do much for the working class. Biden did a little bit for them by increasing subsidies for Obamacare, but that's probably about as much as any president has done this century. Harris actually came close with her long-term care proposal, and might have made a splash if she had flat-out endorsed Medicare covering all long-term care. But she didn't.
Still, for a variety of reasons, I remain skeptical of the argument that Trump won because of the economy. One reason that gets too little attention is the comparison between Biden and Ronald Reagan. Both faced high inflation, high unemployment, and slack wages, and both presided over an improving economy by the end of their first term. But Biden and Harris presided over a way better economy: inflation at 2.4% compared to 4.2%; unemployment at 4.1% compared to 7.2%; and blue collar wages up 5% over five years compared to down 10%. And yet Reagan won a
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Actually, the President of the USA could do a lot for the working class. But it would require more than indirect measures (i.e. repatriating cash to American shores thru business tax cuts, making imports more expensive thru tariffs, dropping the price of energy in the USA, making productive investment here more attractive). It would require specific, targeted government reshoring mandates (i.e. like the chip industry).
In some ways, dropping the value of the dollar would help. I look at how Germany was de-industrialized and especially how Russia re-industrialized. Kicking Russia off SWIFT created the kind if capital controls that governments dream of, since the ruble was forced to stay at home, and it had no place else to go except at-home investment.
Surely, we can't be outdone by Russia, right?
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AMERICANS SUPPORT AMERICA
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But the employer of those employees can make the corporation's income whatever he wants.
And why is that?
You're not telling me anything I dont know, son.
Ive complained about the unequal treatment of individuals v business, starting with the fact that businesses get to deduct their expenses from their receipts and individuals, for the most part, don't.
Why is our tax law so complex? LEGAL loopholes written by Congress for lobbyists and donors. IMHO, if busineses have the same rights as individuals, they should have the same responsibilities, the same taxes, be required to adhere to the same laws, and face the same punishments. But they don't and they aren't. Publicly held companies really only have one responsibility, and that is (supposedly) a fiduciary duty to their shareholders.
If you don't like business law, complain about Congress, not about Trump and Buffet and Chase bank and Exxon who take advantage of it.
Dummy.
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Quote:It is NOT Congress. It is Trump-supporting Republicans doing this. The enforcement budget for the IRS shrinks year by year, with fewer and fewer auditors who are paid only 1% of what Trump pays his tax lawyers. The best IRS auditors quit because of low pay and become lawyers for tax cheaters.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
If you don't like business law, complain about Congress, not about Trump and Buffet and Chase bank and Exxon who take advantage of it.
Dummy.
IRS loses $20.2 billion in funding
March 26, 2024
https://www.grantthornton.com/insights/newsletters/tax/2024/hot-topics
/mar-26/irs-loses-billion-in-funding
The IRS annual budget will remain flat at $12.3 billion for fiscal 2024, but the agency will officially lose $20.2 billion more of the $80 billion special allocation enacted as part of the Inflation Reduction Act (IRA).
Republicans have made IRS funding a popular political talking point and have successfully chipped away at the $80 billion allocation since the IRA was enacted:
Republicans initially secured a $275 million 2% cut in annual funding for fiscal year 2023 (which is now repeated in flat fiscal 2024 funding).
The debt limit deal last June rescinded $1.4 billion in IRA funding immediately with a handshake agreement to claw back $10 billion in each of fiscal 2024 and 2025.
Republicans later secured an agreement to claw back the entire $20 billion in fiscal 2024, which is now fulfilled by the $20.2 rescission in the current minibus.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
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