As Palestinians pushes for statehood, Israel finds itself more isolated
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This was initially just meant to be a short reply to the quote you said below, Sigs, but it became something much larger than that. I'm still posting it here, but I've also put it in this thread where it actually belongs:
http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=65804&p=1#11833
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
I INCLUDED SNIPS FROM THE ORIGINAL ARTICLES AND THEIR LINKS BECAUSE I KNOW THUGR WILL CLAIM THAT IT'S NOT NEWS, ITS PROPAGANDA.
Not that this really needs to be done, because who cares what Ted thinks?
But yeah... I've done that for a very long time now.
You'll notice that a pretty good majority of the links and articles I post are actually from Leftist sources.
It's why a lot of my RWED posts are no longer topical. The Leftist media surprisingly ends up getting a lot of things right... eventually.
They pump all the disinformation in the world while people are fired up about an issue, but once the issue is no longer of any real relevance, at least in the minds of the forgetful masses and/or on a political level, they'll finally put out a little article admitting the truth all along without ever actually apologizing for lying and/or getting it wrong because of their bias.
I'm not a prophet. I'm not right as often as I am because of some voodoo magic.
I detect patterns is all.
Gaslighting is actually very easy to detect if you have a good memory, you expose yourself to it regularly, you have an above-average IQ and you're not a partisan shill.
Consider that article I posted by New York Magazine on the lockdowns just the other day:
http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=65804
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/opinion/covid-lockdowns-were-a-giant-ex
periment-it-was-a-failure/ar-AA1j5lgV
The fifth paragraph of that article reads as follows:
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One of the great mysteries of the pandemic is why so many countries followed China’s example. In the U.S. and the U.K. especially, lockdowns went from being regarded as something that only an authoritarian government would attempt to an example of “following the science.” But there was never any science behind lockdowns — not a single study had ever been undertaken to measure their efficacy in stopping a pandemic. When you got right down to it, lockdowns were little more than a giant experiment.
The article then goes on to invoke George W. Bush's name 8 times while blaming his administration for the Covid lockdowns, concluding the blame game with this paragraph:
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The Bush team’s final document, published by the CDC in February 2007, stopped short of mandating lockdowns but came as close as its authors dared, calling for the use of “social distancing measures to reduce contact between adults in the community and workplace.” One of the leaders of the effort, a government scientist named Richard Hatchett, would later tell Lewis what he really believed: “One thing that’s inarguably true is that if you got everyone and locked each of them in their own room and didn’t let them talk to anyone, you would not have any disease.”
Hey... yanno what? You're not going to get any argument out of me that GWB (at the time) was the worst President we ever had and he oversaw the erection of the DHS and the creation of the Patriot Act, after which our country was never the same.
But you motherfuckers were all in on locking everyone down at the time.
Now you're going to come out 3.5 years later and admit it was all a failure, but instead of APOLOGIZING for being one of the bullhorns for government tyranny against the citizens, you're going to just blame the Republican who came and went 12 years before anybody knew that Wuhan was a place in China?
Get fucked, NY Magazine.
With the internet at our disposal, maybe we should look back at your catalog with 20/20 vision and get a proper view on unwrapping exactly how "One of the great mysteries of the pandemic is why so many countries followed China’s example.&q
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Blinken got a big fat "no" when he begged Netanyahu for just a brief "humanitarian pause'.
Meanwhile, Israel has bombed a refugee camp, a convoy of ambulances, a Christian church, a couple of hospitals, who knows how many mosques, a road on which people were fleeing south as directed by Israel itself, and countless homes and civilians.
In a panic, the IDF bombed houses in the kibbutz killing Hamas terrorists and Israeli settlers alike. An IDF helicopter pilot admitted to firing on cars fleeing the kibbutz, not knowing who was in them.
Videos, pictures, and analysis can be found here:
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Israel Cementing Its Reputation as a War Criminal, U.S. feeling the Heat, and Hezbollah Responds
https://sonar21.com/israel-cementing-its-reputation-as-a-war-criminal-
u-s-feeling-the-heat-and-hezbollah-responds/
Unless Israel pulls back ... which is unlikely, seeing as Netanyahu's continued freedom from jail depends on his remaining Prime Minister... raids and attacks on Israel and USA troops in the Middle East will increase. At some point, oil producing or shipping nations may embargo Israel.
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"It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal." - Henry Kissinger
Loving America is like loving an addicted spouse - SIGNYM
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The long catalogue of intelligence failures that allowed Hamas to stage its brutal surprise attack on October 7 begins at The Venetian, Sheldon Adelson’s Las Vegas resort.
There was a reason the Adelson task force formally demanded pledges of secrecy before, during, and after the meeting. Once they closed the door at the Venetian, they opened the door to potential criminal prosecution as agents of a foreign power, a very serious offense punishable by up to a decade in prison. According to 18 USC § 951: “Whoever, other than a diplomatic or consular officer or attaché, acts in the United States as an agent of a foreign government without prior notification to the Attorney General…shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both…. For purposes of this section, the term ‘agent of a foreign government’ means an individual who agrees to operate within the United States subject to the direction or control of a foreign government or official.”
Yet that, in fact, was precisely what Netanyahu was proposing.
Within a few months, Netanyahu’s war began. Key Jewish donors in the United States were secretly approached with a proposal by Psy-Group, an Israeli psychological warfare firm with close connections to Mossad. Code-named “Project Butterfly,” the proposal outlined a clandestine operation within the “theater of action,” as the company referred to the United States. Its purpose was to damage specific Americans and US organizations associated with the boycott movement. It would develop ways to disrupt their activities, lead them to be falsely investigated by the authorities, and run a hidden media influence campaign against them.
According to its secret internal operations plan, Project Butterfly was aimed at “executing intelligence and influence efforts” against Americans by creating an “infrastructure for narrative warfare — alternative messaging and negative platforms.” In other words, by creating fake news outlets, phony Facebook personas and posts, and other forms of information warfare, Psy-Group’s goal was to deliberately deceive the American public about Israel and its actions against the Palestinians.
To those ends, General Vaknin-Gil issued a stark warning. “In order to win,” she said, “we must use tricks and craftiness.” They would include threats, intimidation, harassment, covert influence operations, troll farms, fearmongering, blacklists, and espionage. The key was turning thousands of Americans into clandestine Israeli agents to spy on and carry out the operations against their fellow citizens. Secrecy, emphasized Vaknin-Gil, was therefore critical. “We are a different government working on a foreign soil, and we have to be very, very cautious,” she said.
More at https://www.thenation.com/article/world/israel-gaza-intelligence-cyber
-shield/
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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The closer you look, the more Netanyahu resembles Trump
By Jennifer Rubin
Roughly 80 percent of Israelis blame Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and his coalition government for the Hamas catastrophe, according to a poll by the Hebrew newspaper Maariv. During the unfolding pogrom, and in the days and in the weeks after, the utter lack of effective, empathetic action by the government has left Israelis fuming. (Government inaction left a void that volunteers, including thousands who participated in pro-democracy protests, are now filling.)
After an announcement of a new phase in the Gaza military action (about which many Israelis have mixed emotions), Netanyahu declared at roughly 1 a.m. on Sunday, “Contrary to the false claims: Under no circumstances and at no stage was Prime Minister Netanyahu warned of Hamas’s war intentions.” He added, “On the contrary, all the security officials, including the head of military intelligence and the head of the Shin Bet, assessed that Hamas had been deterred and was looking for a settlement. This assessment was submitted again and again to the prime minister and the cabinet by all the security forces and intelligence community, up until the outbreak of the war.”
In saying so, Netanyahu is both crediting Hamas with the element of surprise and daring supporters to remain mum in the face of his self-serving comment. This was very much akin to four-times indicted former president Donald Trump’s declaration that Hezbollah was “very smart.”
The reaction was fierce and immediate. Benny Gantz, the leader of a major opposition party who agreed to be part of a special war cabinet, denounced the tweet. “On this morning in particular, I want to support and strengthen all the security forces and [Israel Defense Forces] soldiers, including the IDF chief of staff, the head of military intelligence, the head of the Shin Bet,” Gantz added early Sunday. “When we are at war, leadership must display responsibility, make the correct decisions and strengthen the forces in a way that they will understand what we demand from them …. [T]he prime minister must retract his statement.”
Likewise, “Netanyahu crossed a red line tonight,” said opposition leader Yair Lapid. “While IDF soldiers and officers are fighting bravely against Hamas and Hezbollah, [the PM] is trying to blame them, instead of supporting them. The efforts to evade responsibility and place blame on the security establishment weakens the IDF while it is fighting Israel’s enemies.”
Former intelligence and military leaders also weighed in. And, for a brief moment, it seemed that Netanyahu might be at risk of losing power during the war, as some foreign policy critics have urged.
Utterly cornered, Netanyahu did something he rarely does: He apologized. “Facing a barrage of criticism, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu deleted a controversial social media post on Sunday in which he blamed the defense and intelligence establishment for giving him faulty assessments before the deadly Hamas attack on Oct. 7,” Haaretz reported. “The prime minister then published a new tweet. ‘I was wrong,’ he wrote, adding that 'the things I said following the press conference should not have been said, and I apologize for that. I fully support the heads of [Israel’s] security services.”
He did not, however, take full responsibility for the calamity.
Shortly after Netanyahu took down his tweet, I received an email from a trusted Knesset source: “Netanyahu’s tweet last night as a new low point. When you think it can’t get worse … it does.”
Boy, did that sound familiar to anyone who has witnessed Trump’s career. Just when you think Trump cannot do more damage to undermine democracy, debase political language, sow violence and enable racism, he, too, hits new lows.
The controversy of the Israeli prime minister’s tweet reminds us how much Netanyahu resembles Trump. These are men who continually insist only they speak for the country, only they can shield it from harm. They dehumanize and demonize any opposition and cannot display a modicu
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Israel minister suspended after calling nuking Gaza an option | November 5, 2023
Politico reports: https://www.politico.eu/article/israel-minister-amichai-eliyahu-suspen
d-benjamin-netanyahu-nuclear-bomb-gaza-hamas-war/
Israel’s Heritage Minister Amichai Eliyahu was suspended indefinitely after he said in an interview that dropping a nuclear bomb on the Gaza Strip was “one of the possibilities,” the government announced on Sunday.
“Eliyahu’s statements are not based in reality,” Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said in a statement on X.
Israel and its military “are operating in accordance with the highest standards of international law to avoid harming innocents,” the prime minister added.
A member of the ultra-nationalist Otzma Yehudit (Jewish Power) party, Eliyahu earlier on Sunday claimed in a radio interview that since there were “no non-combatants in Gaza,” using an atomic weapon on the Palestinian enclave was “one of the possibilities.”
Eliyahu later sought to rectify his statement, saying it was “clear to all sensible people” that his reference to nuclear weapons had been “metaphorical.”
Opposition leader Yair Lipid has asked for Eliyahu’s immediate removal, denouncing a “shocking and crazy statement by an irresponsible minister.”
Israel, which has one of the most powerful armies in the Middle East, is widely believed to possess nuclear weapons, although it has never publicly conducted nuclear tests.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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More than 10,000 Palestinians killed since 7 October, say health officials
By Euronews with AFP/AP
Published on 06/11/2023 - 08:13 • Updated 18:32
The latest developments from the Israel Hamas war.
More than 10,000 Palestinians have been killed since 7 October, according to the latest figures released by the Hamas-run Health Ministry in Gaza.
The grim toll includes more than 4,100 children and 2,640 women.
The development comes after Israeli airstrikes hit two refugee camps in the central Gaza Strip on Sunday, killing scores of people, health officials said.
Israel has so far rejected US suggestions that it take a humanitarian pause from its relentless bombardment of Gaza and the rising civilian deaths.
In the occupied West Bank, more than 140 Palestinians have been killed in settler violence and Israeli raids.
More than 1,400 people in Israel have been killed, most of them in the 7 October Hamas attack that started the bloody conflict, and 242 hostages were taken from Israel into Gaza by the militant group.
Roughly 1,100 people have left the Gaza Strip through the Rafah crossing since Wednesday under an apparent agreement among the United States, Egypt, Israel and Qatar, which mediates with Hamas.
https://www.euronews.com/2023/11/06/israeli-minister-says-nuking-gaza-
an-option-communications-blackout-palestinian-icon-arres
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
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More than 10,000 Palestinians killed since 7 October, say health officials
Good.
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Political correctness is just tyranny, with a smiley face.
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Old Joe Biden is making some seriously incoherent decisions about Gaza. Lower-level State Dept. employees are warning Joe but he thinks he can have his cake and eat it, too.
1) U.S. supplies Israel with bombs then grieves the devastation they cause
The Washington Post: As Israel’s ground invasion of Gaza escalates, the Biden administration finds itself in a precarious position: Administration officials say Israel’s counterattack against Hamas has been too severe, too costly in civilian casualties, and lacking a coherent endgame, but they are unable to exert significant influence on America’s closest ally in the Middle… Read More » https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/11/05/white-house-resigne
d-israel-onslaught-gaza/
2) State Department approves $320 million sale of guided bomb equipment to Israel
The New York Times reports: The U.S. State Department has approved a $320 million sale to Israel of equipment for kits that turn unguided bombs into more precise, GPS-guided munitions, according to a letter sent by the department to Congress that was obtained by The New York Times. The order comes on top of an… Read More » https://www.nytimes.com/2023/11/06/world/middleeast/us-israel-bomb-equ
ipment-sale.html
3) U.S. diplomats slam Israel policy in leaked memo
Politico reports: State Department staffers offered a blistering critique of the Biden administration’s handling of the Israel-Hamas war in a dissent memo obtained by POLITICO, arguing that, among other things, the U.S. should be willing to publicly criticize the Israelis. The message suggests a growing loss of confidence among U.S. diplomats in President Joe Biden’s… Read More » https://www.politico.com/news/2023/11/06/u-s-diplomats-slam-israel-pol
icy-in-leaked-memo-00125538
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Old Joe Biden is making some seriously incoherent decisions about Gaza. Lower-level State Dept. employees are warning Joe but he thinks he can have his cake and eat it, too.
1) U.S. supplies Israel with bombs then grieves the devastation they cause
The Washington Post: As Israel’s ground invasion of Gaza escalates, the Biden administration finds itself in a precarious position: Administration officials say Israel’s counterattack against Hamas has been too severe, too costly in civilian casualties, and lacking a coherent endgame, but they are unable to exert significant influence on America’s closest ally in the Middle… Read More » https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/11/05/white-house-resigne
d-israel-onslaught-gaza/
2) State Department approves $320 million sale of guided bomb equipment to Israel
The New York Times reports: The U.S. State Department has approved a $320 million sale to Israel of equipment for kits that turn unguided bombs into more precise, GPS-guided munitions, according to a letter sent by the department to Congress that was obtained by The New York Times. The order comes on top of an… Read More » https://www.nytimes.com/2023/11/06/world/middleeast/us-israel-bomb-equ
ipment-sale.html
3) U.S. diplomats slam Israel policy in leaked memo
Politico reports: State Department staffers offered a blistering critique of the Biden administration’s handling of the Israel-Hamas war in a dissent memo obtained by POLITICO, arguing that, among other things, the U.S. should be willing to publicly criticize the Israelis. The message suggests a growing loss of confidence among U.S. diplomats in President Joe Biden’s… Read More » https://www.politico.com/news/2023/11/06/u-s-diplomats-slam-israel-pol
icy-in-leaked-memo-00125538
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
Mark the date, Ted.
Second said his first shitty thing about Joe Biden* on 11/07.
Your boy Second loves him some terrorists. That's because he's Antifa scum.
Too bad I got his Reaverfan handle banned from FFF.net or you'd really get to see what he thinks.
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Quote:Biden would not be secretive about weapons if he was proud of how they were being used by Netanyahu, the Trump of Israel, to kill women and children:
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Mark the date, Ted.
Second said his first shitty thing about Joe Biden* on 11/07.
Your boy Second loves him some terrorists. That's because he's Antifa scum.
Too bad I got his Reaverfan handle banned from FFF.net or you'd really get to see what he thinks.
U.S. Weapons Transfers to Israel Shrouded in Secrecy — but Not Ukraine
By Ken Klippenstein | Nov 7, 2023
https://theintercept.com/2023/11/07/israel-us-weapons-secret/
One month since Hamas’s surprise attack, little is known about the weapons the U.S. has provided to Israel. Whereas the Biden administration released a three-page itemized list of weapons provided to Ukraine, down to the exact number of rounds, the information released about weapons sent to Israel could fit in a single sentence.
https://media.defense.gov/2023/Sep/21/2003306164/-1/-1/0/Ukraine-Fact-
Sheet.PDF
National Security Council spokesperson John Kirby acknowledged the secrecy in an October 23 press briefing, saying that while U.S. security assistance “on a near-daily basis,” he continued, “We’re being careful not to quantify or get into too much detail about what they’re getting — for their own operational security purposes, of course.”
“The notion that it would in any way harm the Israeli military’s operational security to provide more information is a cover story.”
The argument that transparency would imperil Israel’s operational security — somehow not a concern with Ukraine — is misleading, experts told The Intercept.
“The notion that it would in any way harm the Israeli military’s operational security to provide more information is a cover story for efforts to reduce information on the types of weapons being supplied to Israel and how they are being used,” William Hartung, a fellow at the Quincy Institute for Responsible Statecraft and expert on weapons sales, told The Intercept. “I think the purposeful lack of transparency over what weapons the U.S. is supplying to Israel ‘on a daily basis’ is tied to the larger administration policy of downplaying the extent to which Israel will use those weapons to commit war crimes and kill civilians in Gaza.”
A retired Marine general who worked in the region, who asked for anonymity because he was not authorized by his former employer to speak publicly, attributed the secrecy to the political sensitivity of the conflict. In particular, the retired officer said, weapons used in door-to-door urban warfare, which are likely to result in civilian casualties, are not going to be something the administration wants to publicize. (The National Security Council did not respond to a request for comment.)
In recent years, flare-ups of violence between Israel and Hamas in the Gaza Strip have often entailed Israeli air wars with limited numbers of Israeli troops entering the besieged costal enclave. The last time there was a large-scale ground incursion by the Israel Defense Forces into Gaza was during the Israelis’ 2014 Operation Protective Edge.
While the 2014 invasion saw Israeli troops in Gaza for less than a month, Israel’s defense minister recently told reporters the war would take at least several months. The goal of removing Hamas completely from power is widely expected to take a significant commitment to a long-term ground presence and heavy urban fighting. According to the New Yorker, Israeli officials told their American counterparts that the war could last 10 years. The Biden administration is reportedly worried that Israel’s military objectives are not achievable.
On Monday, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu told ABC News, “Israel will, for an indefinite period, will have the overall security responsibility because we’ve seen what happens when we don’t have it.”
“Delicate Matter Politically”
Hamas’s attack on Israel, which took place on October 7, resulted in a cascade of arm
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