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As Palestinians pushes for statehood, Israel finds itself more isolated

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Sunday, November 12, 2023 11:54 PM

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
No money or aid to anyone. Let them figure it out.

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Political correctness is just tyranny, with a smiley face.

Oh, I agree. The only problem is, our globalists and neocons just can't keep their fingers out of... well, anywhere, really.

What an effing waste of $$$ and lives!!!

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Monday, November 13, 2023 11:51 PM

There is a Hamas Headquarters under every hospital.
Therefore every hospital must be bombed by Israel.
Stay away from hospitals in Gaza if you value your health.

https://www.google.com/search?q=hamas+headquarters+under+hospital

At least 21 of Gaza's 35 hospitals have stopped functioning, either because of Israel's siege on them, or because of a lack of fuel and medicines as a consequence of the total blockade imposed by Israel on Gaza since October 7.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/11/13/patients-are-dying-what-we-k
now-about-gaza-hospitals-under-israeli-siege


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Tuesday, November 14, 2023 4:04 AM

The US and Israel are diverging on war in Gaza and what comes after

By Howard LaFranchi | November 13, 2023 | JERUSALEM

https://www.csmonitor.com/World/Middle-East/2023/1113/Why-US-and-Israe
l-are-diverging-on-war-in-Gaza-and-what-comes-after


Just over a month into the war in Gaza, differences between the United States and Israel are widening on key elements of the war. This is not to say President Joe Biden’s support for Israel is wavering. Rather, his administration’s disapproval of the way Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu is conducting the war is growing.

U.S.-Israel differences over the postwar plan focus in particular on how a Gaza flattened to rubble but still home to 2.3 million Palestinians would be administered.

The White House wasted no time in rejecting Mr. Netanyahu’s suggestion that Israel might remain in Gaza indefinitely, with national security spokesperson John Kirby saying President Biden “maintains his position that reoccupation by Israeli forces is not the right thing to do.”

Friday, on the sidelines of a G7 foreign ministers meeting in Tokyo, U.S. Secretary of State Antony Blinken concurred, and laid out a set of principles, including “no forcible displacement of Palestinians from Gaza, no use of Gaza as a platform for launching terrorism or other attacks against Israel, no diminution in the territory of Gaza, and a commitment to Palestinian-led governance for Gaza and for the West Bank, and in a unified way.”

Yet as numerous Israeli analysts have pointed out since, those “principles” run counter to a number of pronouncements by members of the Israeli government planning for postwar Gaza.

The coming clash over governance, Mr. Novik says, will pit the U.S. and a “consensus” of the international community favoring the Palestinian Authority – which rules the West Bank under Israeli occupation – as the enclave’s eventual administrator, against an Israeli government that disdains the PA and has worked in recent years to weaken it.

Still, some analysts caution that it won’t be solely international forces that pressure Israel to wind up its military campaign faster than the army might like. Inexorable domestic pressures, they add, are also going to place time limits.

“One clock is the steady supply of ammunition,” says Ambassador Oren. “We just aren’t going to be able to shoot indefinitely.” Other domestic “clocks” he lists include the limits on long-term deployment of the army’s 360,000 reservists, and the impact the war is having on the economy.

“So there are many clocks,” he says, “and we have to keep our eye on every one.”

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Wednesday, November 15, 2023 1:57 AM

Israel has (so far) killed about half a percent of the population of Gaza.
This is the equivalent of 1.5 million killed in the United States — or roughly 25 Vietnams.
Relative to Israel, it's nearly the equivalent of 40 October 7ths.

https://jabberwocking.com/raw-data-deaths-in-gaza/

Gaza reports more than one out of every 200 people killed.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/interactive/2023/gaza-rising-deat
h-toll-civilians
/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Wednesday, November 15, 2023 3:02 AM

100 State Dept Officials Sign Dissent Memo Saying Biden "Complicit In Genocide" In Gaza
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/diplomats-warn-white-house-gaza
-crisis-destroying-us-image-middle-east



Originally from Axios


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Scoop: Internal State Dept. memo blasts Biden, U.S. policy on Israel-Hamas war

An internal State Department dissent memo accuses President Biden of "spreading misinformation" on the Israel-Hamas war and alleges that Israel is committing "war crimes" in Gaza, according to a copy of the memo obtained by Axios.

Why it matters: The scathing five-page memo — organized by a junior diplomat who has suggested on social media that Biden's support of Israel has made him "complicit in genocide" in Gaza — offers a rare look at the raw divisions within the Biden administration over the Israel-Hamas war.


MORE AT https://www.axios.com/2023/11/13/biden-gaza-hamas-policy-state-departm
ent-memo


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Wednesday, November 15, 2023 6:02 PM

The Israeli public has embraced the Smotrich doctrine

The internalization of the far-right minister's 'Decisive Plan' is evident in the popular support for a new ultimatum for Gaza: emigration or annihilation.

By Orly Noy | November 10, 2023

. . . demographic concerns will be ameliorated by offering the 3 million Palestinian residents a choice: to renounce their national aspirations and continue living on their land in an inferior status, or to emigrate abroad. If, instead, they choose to take up arms against Israel, they will be identified as terrorists and the Israeli army will set about “killing those who need to be killed.” When asked at a meeting, in which he presented his plan to religious-Zionist figures, if he also meant killing families, women, and children, Smotrich replied: “In war as in war.”

More at https://www.972mag.com/smotrich-decisive-plan-israeli-public/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Thursday, November 16, 2023 9:27 PM

Israel’s comically bad disinformation effort proves they’re losing the PR war | November 15, 2023

The Daily Beast reports:

Israel’s official Arabic account affiliated with the Ministry of Foreign Affairs posted a selfie video of a Palestinian nurse condemning Hamas for taking over al-Shifa hospital in the Gaza Strip on Nov. 11.

But some things about the video didn’t add up.

Everything about it smacked of high school theater—from the botched accent that sounded like it was straight out of an Israeli soap opera to the perfectly scripted IDF talking points rolling off her tongue.

Hamas were stealing the fuel. Check.

Hamas were taking morphine. Check.

Then there was the pristine white lab coat looking like it had just come back from the dry cleaner, the audio track of bombs falling that sounded like samples from a late-’80s Casio keyboard, and the contrived stethoscope-waving you‘d expect from an extra on Grey’s Anatomy.

Hamas hadn’t stolen her makeup though, which was immaculate.

The Palestinian Ministry of Health logo slapped strategically in the background but visible over her shoulder looked like an OSINT honeytrap.

“This video must be authentic right, I can see the Health Ministry logo”—at least that’s what whoever made it would hope the burgeoning army of sketchy anonymous OSINT (open source intelligence) researchers might say.

The only thing missing was a degree hanging in the background saying Tel Aviv Upstairs Medical College.

Oh, and perhaps I should have mentioned this first, no one at al-Shifa had ever seen the nurse before.

Soon, the volume of ridicule directed at those sharing it reached such a pitch that the Israel Arabic account deleted their tweet. I guess they didn’t know the source either.

Forget Nurse Ratched, this was more like Nurse Hatchet-job.

More at https://attentiontotheunseen.com/2023/11/15/israels-comically-bad-disi
nformation-effort-proves-theyre-losing-the-pr-war
/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Thursday, November 16, 2023 11:42 PM

Second hates Jews.

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Saturday, November 18, 2023 9:30 PM

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Second hates Jews.

second hates Trumptards, America's Nazis. 6ix, did you know that Germany's Nazis did NOT think of themselves as the bad guys after the war was over? Germans saw themselves as on the losing side, but not the wrong side. Same with the slave-owning Confederates. They were on the losing side, but not the wrong side in their minds, which is why they rebuilt slavery in everything, except the name, so that it would be "legal". Bad guys never learn, and can't change, but to humanity's misfortune, bad guys win about 50% of the time.

Basic Principles of Humanity

“Willfully impeding the delivery of relief supplies, in particular life-saving fuel, is a war crime.”

Yesterday, in response to pressure from the US State Department, Israel’s war cabinet authorized trucks to bring 70,000 liters of fuel into the Gaza Strip daily, the first deliveries of fuel in more than five weeks. According to the UN Relief and Works Agency for Palestine Refugees in the Near East (UNRWA), the minimum amount needed to sustain just the organization’s humanitarian operations is 120,000 liters every day, without regard for other humanitarian needs. Prior to the war, nearly a million liters of fuel entered Gaza each day.

https://www.nybooks.com/online/2023/11/18/basic-principles-humanity-sa
ri-bashi
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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Sunday, November 19, 2023 12:22 AM

Oh yes, cue...TRUMP! TRUMPTARDS! NAZIS! THE CONFEDERACY! HOLDOMOR!

Jeez, SECOND, even when I agree with you, I can't agree with your arguments!




Here is a careful analysis of Israel's war on Hamas, its economic future, and the US' role in the conflict.
https://simplicius76.substack.com/p/israel-and-americas-growing-zugzwa
ng


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