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As Palestinians pushes for statehood, Israel finds itself more isolated

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Wednesday, November 8, 2023 8:56 PM

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Originally posted by second:
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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:

Mark the date, Ted.

Second said his first shitty thing about Joe Biden* on 11/07.

Your boy Second loves him some terrorists. That's because he's Antifa scum.

Too bad I got his Reaverfan handle banned from FFF.net or you'd really get to see what he thinks.

Biden would not be secretive about weapons if he was proud of how they were being used by Netanyahu, the Trump of Israel, to kill women and children:



Well then... Maybe he should just go full retarded and side with you and the Lunatic Fringe of the Left and be done with it.

Let's just put all the cards on the table once and for all before election season.

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Thursday, November 9, 2023 3:21 AM

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:

Well then... Maybe he should just go full retarded and side with you and the Lunatic Fringe of the Left and be done with it.

Let's just put all the cards on the table once and for all before election season.

Not ‘Mr Security. He’s Mr Bulls**t’: Former Israeli Prime Minister slams Netanyahu’s plans for post-war Gaza

Tel Aviv, Israel Edited By: Nishtha Badgamia, Updated: Nov 08, 2023, 11:22 PM IST

https://www.wionews.com/world/not-mr-security-hes-mr-bullst-former-isr
aeli-pm-slams-netanyahus-plans-for-post-war-gaza-656618


I agree with Israel’s former leader Ehud Olmert that Netanyahu's plans are bullshit. Time is running out for devising a better plan. Israel has only weeks to defeat Hamas as global opinion sours, former PM Ehud Barak says

https://www.politico.eu/article/ehud-barak-israel-palestine-war-hamas-
global-opinion-sours
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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Thursday, November 9, 2023 7:54 AM

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Originally posted by second:
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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:

Well then... Maybe he should just go full retarded and side with you and the Lunatic Fringe of the Left and be done with it.

Let's just put all the cards on the table once and for all before election season.

Not ‘Mr Security. He’s Mr Bulls**t’: Former Israeli Prime Minister slams Netanyahu’s plans for post-war Gaza

Tel Aviv, Israel Edited By: Nishtha Badgamia, Updated: Nov 08, 2023, 11:22 PM IST

https://www.wionews.com/world/not-mr-security-hes-mr-bullst-former-isr
aeli-pm-slams-netanyahus-plans-for-post-war-gaza-656618


I agree with Israel’s former leader Ehud Olmert that Netanyahu's plans are bullshit. Time is running out for devising a better plan. Israel has only weeks to defeat Hamas as global opinion sours, former PM Ehud Barak says

https://www.politico.eu/article/ehud-barak-israel-palestine-war-hamas-
global-opinion-sours
/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly




Just like Ukraine, nobody cares.

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Thursday, November 9, 2023 3:17 PM

“I’m calling from Israeli intelligence. We have the order to bomb. You have two hours.”

An extraordinary warning call to a Palestinian dentist starts the panicked evacuation of a Gazan neighbourhood.

As gripping a story as they come.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-67327079

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Friday, November 10, 2023 12:51 AM

Eliminationist language and false analogies: neither are in short supply now. In Jewish circles close to me, far too close, I hear talk of needing to wipe out all Palestinians, to level Gaza, to embrace retribution and revenge. For these relatives and acquaintances, Hamas’s attacks stand for a primordial Palestinian Jew-hatred and the scourge of an age-old antisemitism. There is a straight line, in this way of thinking, from the Kishinev Pogrom to the massacre at Kibbutz Be’eri, from Nazi violence in Germany to the attacks on Kfar Aza. On October 28, in his press conference laying out Israel’s retaliatory intentions, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu cited a passage from Deuteronomy, urging the Israelites to “remember what Amalek did to you.” Those of us who studied I Samuel in Jewish day schools know that he was referring to the Biblical nation of Amalek, the symbolic power of their merciless attack against the Israelites wandering in the desert after their Exodus from Egypt, and God’s commandment to King Saul to destroy everything they had: “Spare no one, but kill alike men and women, infants and sucklings, oxen and sheep, camels and donkeys!” These are analogies enlisted to justify a thirst for vengeance not only against Hamas but against the Palestinian people as a whole — an impulse to kill without end.

Hamas’s attack may have been no less enraging than such tales from religious scripture or the state-sanctioned Cossack assaults against defenseless Jews in the Pale of Settlement, but it was produced by very different forces: it was an attack by a nationalist, Islamist armed party against a powerful state that maintains control over the fate of the Palestinian people. Scholars of Jewish history have worked for decades to understand how the structural conditions of diasporic life changed when Israel’s creation drew many Jewish people back into modern history as agents of their own future, asserting sovereign dominance, maintaining a monopoly of force with a strong and capable army, controlling a state, occupying territory, and carrying out violence of their own — and what those changes meant for the collective rights of the state’s non-Jewish inhabitants.

https://www.nybooks.com/online/2023/11/09/let-us-not-hurry-to-our-doom
-israel-gaza
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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
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Friday, November 10, 2023 4:09 AM

Second is an anti-Semite.

I find that quite funny.



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Saturday, November 11, 2023 6:36 AM

Iran Warns Of 'Inevitable Expansion' Of War After IDF Conducts Flag-Raising Ceremony In Gaza
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/israeli-tanks-have-gaza-hospita
ls-surrounded-un-decries-hell-earth



Top US General: Israel Killing Civilians Will Help Hamas Recruit
https://www.zerohedge.com/military/top-us-general-israel-killing-civil
ians-will-help-hamas-recruit


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Saturday, November 11, 2023 7:47 AM

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Second is an anti-Semite.

I find that quite funny.



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You can be against what Israel is doing without being anti-Jewish, just as you can be for a Palestinian homeland with being for Hamas.

IMHO I see no difference between setting off a suicide vest versus bombing civilians from 30,000 ft, except suicide vests are less effective and require a lot more courage. Killing civilians for a political purpose is terrorism, whether it's committed by a nation-state or a militia.

If you think there's a difference then explain to me what that is.



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Sunday, November 12, 2023 12:50 PM

A couple of people whose analysis I respect seem to think that the Hamas attack wasn't a surprise to the Israelis. That it was anticipated and will be used as a springboard by the USA to expand th war to Hezbollah and eventually Iran.

I haven't come to any conclusion, but IMHO it's a little like 911: It benefitted the Israel and neocons so much that even if the CIA and Mossad didn't set it up, they had no good reason to stop it. That's the difference between MIHOP (make it happen on purpose) and LIHOP (let it happen on purpose).

To pile horror on horror, IDF added to the Israeli death toll by firing on settlers homes with both Hamas AND Israeli settlers inside, and using helicopter gunships to attack cars fleeing the music festival without knowing who was inside, knowing they could always blame Hamas. And to bring things to a boil, killing thousands of Gaza civilians, and firing on Syria, looking for all the world like they are trying to provoke Syria or Hezbollah and eventually Iran into a greater war.

All of our military assets in the area just for Hamas? Not likely!

It seems like too many coincidences and otherwise inexplicable decisons aimed towards predetermined outcome.

And BTW if anyone thinks that Israeli and American neocons couldnt be THAT cynical.. well, yes, they could.

On THAT cheerful note! ...

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Sunday, November 12, 2023 8:23 PM

No money or aid to anyone. Let them figure it out.

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