Hollywood's Abysmal 2023 in Numbers
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UPDATED: Friday, August 2, 2024 09:17
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The Rock's $393 Million Black Adam Failure Doesn't Look So Bad 1 Year Later
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Jonathan Majors assault trial set after judge denies motion to dismiss case
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Elemental was written off as a flop when it opened, bumovie overcame the odds and proved to be a hit. Now, Pixar's Pete Docter points to Disney+ as being responsible for damaging the brand.
https://toonado.com/disney/pixar-boss-addresses-elementals-unexpected-
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The Rock's $393 Million Black Adam Failure Doesn't Look So Bad 1 Year Later
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I know, right.
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Jonathan Majors assault trial set after judge denies motion to dismiss case
https://www.aol.com/jonathan-majors-assault-trial-set-162136457.html
I got no opinion on this one. Is it some more residual #MeToo bullshit, or did he really beat on some girl? I wasn't there. I'd never see any bullshit Marvel movie he was in, let alone one they'd make in his absence anyhow. Whatever happens to this guy has no bearing on my life whatsoever. Either way this falls, may justice be served.
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Elemental was written off as a flop when it opened, bumovie overcame the odds and proved to be a hit. Now, Pixar's Pete Docter points to Disney+ as being responsible for damaging the brand.
https://toonado.com/disney/pixar-boss-addresses-elementals-unexpected-
success-and-takes-aim-at-disney-for-studios-woes-a8055
It did not prove to be a hit. I don't know why they keep lying about things like this other than most people don't know how to math.
What Elemental did is make a really good comeback against all odds after a terrible opening weekend and hang in there long enough to almost certainly break even. On a $200 Million budget, its current numbers (which are likely VERY close to its final numbers) are $488,174,360, which is not quite the 2.5x it needed to break even on the 2.5x RoT scale. Even if it was still a very minor loss for Dinsey/Pixar, it avoided what looked to be a catastrophic loss of several hundred million dollars right out of the gate. Disney has nearly $800 Million worth of losses at the Box Office so far with several amazingly terrible flops, and only one big-budget movie that brought in a profit at all. They've got to be REALLY happy with that end result for Elemental now, even if this movie didn't actually make any money for either company.
There will be no money made from merchandising. No kids are going to be buying up Elemental toys like they did Toy Story toys. DVD and BluRay doesn't make much at all in current year. It is now playing on a streaming service that loses hundreds of millions of dollars every quarter.
What they need to do is shutter Disney+ for good and start licensing these movies out to superior streaming services like Netflix/Amazon/Apple if they ever want to start clawing themselves out of the hole they dug for themselves.
FYI: Disney's stock price is currently $79.67 per share.
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and Bad Boys 4 in 2024?
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Good to start the morning off with a laugh. Thanks for that.
In somewhat similar news though, it appears that they made a last minute change to The Marvels because they're so worried about how bad it's going to flop.
It was rumored and more or less confirmed now by "industry experts" that the CODA at the end of the credits is going to have the black Marvel lady shot off to an alternative universe where she wakes up in a hospital bed inside the X Mansion, where her alternate-universe mother and Kelsey Grammer's Beast are taking care of her.
They know this one is so bad that they're willing to blow the FOX X-Men crossover hint on it just to try to get people into the seats.
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The Wokecercist seems to be doing pretty well overseas with over $40 Million of its $85 Million current total. It's made 283% of its production budget back so far, which already means that it's a winner. It's sitting at 21st place now if my previous statements on the top 20 are correct.
I don't imagine that Killers of the Flower Moon are going to hurt it any more than it hurts itself next weekend. Five Nights at Freddies will almost certainly put an end to it the following weekend though. Priscilla (the new Elvis-related biopic about Elvis being a pedophile) probably won't hurt anything the week after that, except possible overlap with the Killers of the Flower Moon audience.
Five Nights at Freddy's just banked $10,300,000 on Thursday night previews.
That's HUGE for a horror movie. Hell, in 2023, that's pretty damn big for nearly every genre. Without diving deep into it, my guess would be that only about 5 movies did better on preview night so far this year. (Guardians 3, Barbie, Oppenheimer, Super Mario Bros., Miles Morales 2).
Let's look at Horror movies in the top 20 so far in 2023 and see how they did on preview night.
M3GAN: $2,750,000
https://www.the-numbers.com/movie/M3GAN#tab=box-office
Talk To Me: $1,245,000
https://www.the-numbers.com/movie/Talk-To-Me-(2022-United-Kingdom)#tab
=box-office
Insidious: The Red Door: $5,000,000
https://www.the-numbers.com/movie/Insidious-The-Red-Door-(2023)#tab=bo
x-office
Evil Dead Rise: $2,500,000
https://www.the-numbers.com/movie/Evil-Dead-Rise-(2023)#tab=box-office
The Nun II: $3,100,000
https://www.the-numbers.com/movie/Nun-II-The-(2023)#tab=box-office
Scream VI: $5,700,000
https://www.the-numbers.com/movie/Scream-VI-(2023)#tab=box-office
The Pope's Exorcist: $850,000
https://www.the-numbers.com/movie/Popes-Exorcist-The-(2023)#tab=box-of
fice
The Blackening: $900,000
https://www.the-numbers.com/movie/Blackening-The-(2023)#tab=box-office
Exorcist: Believer: $2,850,000
https://www.the-numbers.com/movie/Exorcist-Believer-The-(2023)#tab=box
-office
It's not even a contest. In a year that Horror reigns supreme, the top 2 horror movies below it just barely made enough on preview night combined to beat FNAF. Scream VI made $5.7 Million and Insidious made $5 Million.
At $25 Million production budget, it won't be topping the list for Worldwide Gross vs. Production Budget when it's done, but that is quite a bit cheaper than the $30 Million spent for Wokecercist, the $35 Million spent on Scream VI and the $38 Million spent on The Nun II.
If this one does well with audiences and gets great word of mouth, I could see it making more money Worldwide than The Marvels does on less than 1/10th the production budget.
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If this one does well with audiences and gets great word of mouth, I could see it making more money Worldwide than The Marvels does on less than 1/10th the production budget.
Yup. Bruce is quite impressed with the preview numbers for FNAF as well.
His original model had FNAF making around $30 to $35 Million this weekend, but with those previews he's now predicting a $60 Million floor for the weekend ($20 Million more than other outlets were expecting before these Thursday night previews).
He thinks it could make as much as $85 Million this weekend and it could possibly end up with the 6th highest October weekend opening in history.
Disney/Marvel has to be pissing themselves right about now. Didn't the latest Opening Weekend Predictions to that movie drop to something like only $40 Million now on that $275 to $300 Million production budget?
If FNAF actually makes $85 Million domestically on Opening Weekend, that's around half of what some people are predicting that The Marvels will do Worldwide by the time it's out of the theaters.
Reminder: FNAF's production budget was only $25 Million.
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Captain Marvel 2-ish 'The Marvels'
Brie Larson’s ‘The Marvels’ Predicted To Have One Of If Not The Worst Box Office Grosses For The Marvel Cinematic Universe Ever
https://boundingintocomics.com/2023/10/13/brie-larsons-the-marvels-pre
dicted-to-have-one-of-if-not-the-worst-box-office-grosses-for-the-marvel-cinematic-universe-ever/
Marvel 2024 movies delay: Deadpool 3 and Captain America 4 release dates 'set to move'
https://www.express.co.uk/entertainment/films/1826972/Marvel-2024-movi
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Captain Marvel 2-ish 'The Marvels'
Brie Larson’s ‘The Marvels’ Predicted To Have One Of If Not The Worst Box Office Grosses For The Marvel Cinematic Universe Ever
https://boundingintocomics.com/2023/10/13/brie-larsons-the-marvels-pre
dicted-to-have-one-of-if-not-the-worst-box-office-grosses-for-the-marvel-cinematic-universe-ever/
Marvel 2024 movies delay: Deadpool 3 and Captain America 4 release dates 'set to move'
https://www.express.co.uk/entertainment/films/1826972/Marvel-2024-movi
es-delay-Deadpool-3-Captain-America-4
Looks like they're moving Snow White back to 2025 too.
I hear they're even using CGI to put dwarves back in.
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If this one does well with audiences and gets great word of mouth, I could see it making more money Worldwide than The Marvels does on less than 1/10th the production budget.
Yup. Bruce is quite impressed with the preview numbers for FNAF as well.
His original model had FNAF making around $30 to $35 Million this weekend, but with those previews he's now predicting a $60 Million floor for the weekend ($20 Million more than other outlets were expecting before these Thursday night previews).
He thinks it could make as much as $85 Million this weekend and it could possibly end up with the 6th highest October weekend opening in history.
Disney/Marvel has to be pissing themselves right about now. Didn't the latest Opening Weekend Predictions to that movie drop to something like only $40 Million now on that $275 to $300 Million production budget?
If FNAF actually makes $85 Million domestically on Opening Weekend, that's around half of what some people are predicting that The Marvels will do Worldwide by the time it's out of the theaters.
Reminder: FNAF's production budget was only $25 Million.
After getting $10.4 Million in previews, FNAF got another $29,160,000 on Opening Night Friday. I'm struggling to remember the last movie that made this much on a Friday night.
But then I remembered there's a list for that:
Biggest Friday at the Domestic Box Office: https://www.the-numbers.com/box-office-records/domestic/all-movies/bes
t-performance-by-day-of-the-week/friday
It appears that they do include the Thursday previews in this Friday number. The reason that FNAF doesn't appear on it yet is because we're still in the Projection stage. FNAF would place 70th on this list below Black Widow and above Spider-Man (2002) and Joker.
So far in 2023, it's made more on Friday than Taylor Swift: Eras Tour and The Little Mermaid out of the top 100.
Here's a list of movies that made more on Opening Friday than FNAF in 2023:
1. Barbie - $70,503,178
2. The Super Mario Bros. Movie - $54,804,460
3. Miles Morales 2 - $$51,808,109
4. Guardians of the Galaxy: Vol 3. - $48,103,839
5. Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania - $46,431,851
That's it.
So yeah, it's been a while since a movie made as much as FNAF on a Friday night. Barbie's opening night was the last time that happened.
So it's almost halfway there to the $85 Million high-end prediction that Bruce put out last night since Thursday Preview night counts for that. I think it easily has another $40 Million for Saturday and Sunday with $29 Million+ on Friday night. $85 Million shouldn't be too hard.
If it makes $85 Million, it won't make the Top 100 list of opening weekends of all time, but it would have only fallen short $6 Million it needed to make a showing there.
https://www.the-numbers.com/box-office-records/domestic/all-movies/wee
kend/any
The only movies that would have beat it at $85 Million in 2023 are:
1. Barbie - $162,022,044 (Production Budget: $145 Million)
2. The Super Mario Bros Movie - $146,361,865 (Production Budget: $100 Million)
3. Miles Morales 2 - $120,663,589 (Production Budget: $100 Million)
4. Guardians of the Galaxy: Vol 3. - $118,414,021 (Production Budget: $250 Million)
5. Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania - $106,109,650 (Production Budget: $200 Million)
6. The Little Mermaid - $95,578,040 (Production Budget: $250 Million)
7. Barbie (2nd weekend) - $93,011,602
8. Taylor Swift: Eras Tour - $92,804,678
9. The Super Mario Bros. Movie (2nd weekend) - $92,347,190
At only $25 Million to produce though, it crushes all of them except for the Eras Tour Concert Thing that isn't being counted against actual movies. $85 Million would be a 340% return on the Production Budget on Opening Weekend Domestic alone without even accounting for the International take.
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A delay is usually for bad reasons and it costs money. That delayed version of SJW Snow White will probably be a huge trainwreck
The 40 Biggest Box Office Bombs of the Last Decade
https://247wallst.com/special-report/2023/10/28/biggest-box-office-bom
bs-last-decade/
Brie Larson forgot she worked with Scarlett Johansson
To Shoehorn a role, its somewhat like recasting or how Ted McGinley was called "the patron saint of shark-jumping", it seems Marvel wanted a Wonder-Woman-ish role to replace Thor, Hulk and others and why Stunt Casting Hurts Movies
Rumour: Brie Larson no longer wants to play Captain Marvel because of nasty fans
https://www.gamereactor.eu/rumour-brie-larson-no-longer-wants-to-play-
captain-marvel-because-of-nasty-fans-1317573/
Captain Marvel Star Brie Larson Reportedly Wants To Quit MCU Over Toxic Fans
https://www.screengeek.net/2023/10/19/brie-larson-captain-marvel-mcu-e
xit/
Five Nights At Freddy’s: Will the horror movie get a sequel?
https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/international/us/five-nights
-at-freddys-will-the-horror-movie-get-a-sequel/articleshow/104786093.cms
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