Hollywood's Abysmal 2023 in Numbers
POSTED BY: 6ixStringJack
UPDATED: Friday, August 2, 2024 09:17
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Five Nights At Freddy’s: Will the horror movie get a sequel?
You know that's right.
You don't even need to read an article to know that a movie that makes nearly 350% of its production budget opening weekend without even adding international money is getting a sequel.
There were at least half a dozen games. Unless they managed to do something really stupid and put all the plots into one movie, they've got plenty of material to work with.
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Had to double check my figures.
ClownfishTV erroneously claimed that FNAF made more on Friday night than Super Mario Bros. did on opening night.
I mean... yeah. I guess. But you can't say that without mentioning the huge technicality. Super Mario opened on a Wednesday night. There was no preview night at all. And even though it was out for two straight days already it made $54.8 Million on Friday compared to FNAF's Friday take of $29.1 Million. Super Mario Bro's 2nd weekend also has about a 50% or 60% chance of beating FNAF's opening weekend too.
They apparently haven't figured out what JSF pointed out many months back, that Thursday night previews are rolled into Friday's numbers, because he kept saying that FNAF made almost $40 Million in one night.
I like Clownfish, but come on guys... You run an entertainment news website and profit off of it. This should be a no-brainer for you at this point.
I don't know where they got their info, but they mentioned that some predictions have FNAF making over $150 Million globally this weekend. That would be 6 times the Production Budget if true.
Amazing, especially considering that if you're paying for Peacock you can just stream it at home right now.
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Impossible. It will not avoid massive financial losses. The $35 to $40 Million Domestic Opening Weekend that the one honest article about this movie being a flop predicted isn't even what happened. As you can see in earlier posts, this movie is lucky if it grosses $24 to $25 Million Domestic.
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And then, Variety further runs defense for Killers by stating the following:Quote:
For what it’s worth, “Flower Moon” is tracking ahead of the opening for Scorsese’s last Leonardo DiCaprio collaboration “The Wolf of Wall Street.” That sprawling comedy debuted with $18 million in late December, but rode the holiday season and awards buzz to a $116 million finish in North America.
The Wolf on Wall Street made $18,410,067 on opening weekend, to be exact. It also went on to make $116,949,183 Domestically, and $389,816,136 Worldwide by the end of its run.
This was back in 2013, a FULL 10 YEARS AGO.
With inflation, $18,410,067 in 2023 is $24,323,871.41 today. $116,949,183 in 2013 is $154,516,379 today. $389,816,136 in 2023 is $515,035,473.00 today.
The Wolf on Wall Street was a half a BILLION Dollar movie in 2023 dollars.
BEST CASE SCENARIO, Killers matches on opening weekend what The Wolf on Wall Street made when inflation is taken into account.
Oh... and what was the Production Budget for Wolf? $100,000,000. $132,122,666, actually, when taking inflation into account. Still INSANELY expensive for what it was, but back then a studio only needed to do 2 times the budget to break even, and with $515 Million worldwide, it made $254 Million more than the $264 Million break even point.
And Wolf did MASSIVE numbers internationally. The $116,949,183 it made in the US was only 30% of the Worldwide take. 70% of this movies income was outside of the US!
There is no way that is happening with Killers internationally. The Wolf on Wall Street resonated so well with people around the world because of the disproportionate power that Wall Street has over the world economy, and we were just finally overcoming the last huge market meltdown and worldwide recession by 2013.
Nobody outside of the US is going to give a single shit about an FBI drama that takes place in Oklahoma in 1920. It's not as if nobody is going to go see it. I'm sure that life-long Scorsese and DiCaprio fans outside of the US are happy to see another collab between them. But we're talking maybe 25%-30% of its worldwide take being international for Killers when compared to Wolf's 70%.
Killers makes $9 Million 2nd weekend for a 61% drop.
Total Domestic: $40,679,000
Total International: $12,464,960
Total Worldwide: $53,143,960
International Box Office is now 23.5% of Worldwide Box Office.
It appears that unless Killers grows some amazing legs, I might owe an apology to Blue Beetle and Shazam II.
Here was my post on August 27th in the Blue Beetle Failure Thread after the 2nd weekend wrapped up:
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Blue Beetle makes only $82 Million worldwide in first 10 days.
After 10 days, The Flash had already made $87 Million in the US alone. And where Blue Beetle has a 56% Domestic vs. 44% International take, The Flash ended its run with a 40% Domestic vs 60% International take, so it's likely The Flash had already made over $200 Million of its $268 Million total by day 10.
After 10 Days, Shazam II came just $400k shy of where Blue Beetle stands Domestically right now. The only difference is that Shazam II has the numbers flipped and ended with a 44% Domestic vs. 56% International take.
Both Blue Beetle and Shazam II were at least $29 Million ahead of where Killers is right now at this day in their run.
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So it's almost halfway there to the $85 Million high-end prediction that Bruce put out last night since Thursday Preview night counts for that. I think it easily has another $40 Million for Saturday and Sunday with $29 Million+ on Friday night. $85 Million shouldn't be too hard.
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I think it's quite possible it makes $90 to $95 Million. That's not a prediction, but I'm saying based off of Thursday and Friday numbers coupled with the high audience score that it is in the realm of possibility. I'd call that one a coin flip. If it somehow manages that, it will make the all-time top 100 Opening Weekend list.
EDITED TO ADD: This could be a heavily front-loaded movie though. There is a large fanbase for the videogame franchise that may have already seen it. It might get a huge drop instead of a normal Friday/Saturday/Sunday pattern. I just found out that they decided to stream it at the same time too...
So, that's both good and bad news for FNAF. It managed an amazing opening night despite already being available to stream at home, but because it can be streamed at home that's going to hurt its longer-term chances. I have no idea why they would do that knowing full well this one was going to make money in the theaters.
I think I got sucked up in the hype a little too much on this one with my own late predictions. Although I never said it was going to make more than $80 Million for sure, I did say it could make as much as $95 Million after Friday night's numbers came out.
Unless they lowballed the projection by $2 Million, I didn't even get the $80 Million right. It looks like they're saying $78 Million for opening weekend.
It did $24,250,000 on Saturday, but took a huge plunge by Sunday and only made $14,010,000. That $10+ Million drop on Sunday was hugely unexpected. I would have assumed at least $19 Million if I saw that $24,250,000 for Saturday (but they put Saturday/Sunday predictions out at the same time).
Oh well...
Still a MASSIVE success, and my disappointment in how the final domestic numbers turned out can't take away from that.
It made another $52,578,000 internationally for an incredible $130,578,000 worldwide. (In only 3 days FNAF has managed to make over $1 Million more than Blue Beetle did in 70 days, and just $1.5 Million less than Shazam II took 49 days to make).
On a $25 Million budget, FNAF has already made 524% its production budget back on Weekend 1!
It's been a while since I kept up with my opening weekend numbers here, but as of the last time I posted them on 9/5/23 in the Abysmal Hollywood Thread, that puts FNAF in a solid 1st place for WW Gross vs. PB above Insidious: The Red Door which got 400% even on Opening Weekend.
As I stated before though, especially with this thing available on streaming from day one, I don't imagine this isn't quite heavily front-loaded and I don't expect it to have the longevity of other flicks that top our list for overall WW Gross vs. Production Budget. In just 3 days it's at 12th place on the current list here (that I haven't updated since 9/24). If I had updated it, I'd guess it's probably around 14th place in reality right now. I could see it easily jumping up to 8th place by the end of next weekend though. It would only need to make another $62 Million worldwide to do that. (Caveat: There may be one or two movies higher on that list that I have yet to update which would make that not true, but I'm basing it off the 769% it would need to beat Evil Dead Rise for 8th place on the list right now)
Plus, a lot of those movies made their money during the summer when kids were off school. Even post Halloween I could see people still in the spirit of going to see this next weekend and giving it a good 2nd weekend, but when you can just stream it at home and it's getting cold out I
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I'm at some out of the way place so I don't know how relevant this is to worldwide or US Box Office. Perhaps this also could be discussed in the 'Horror Movies' thread but the past days I drove some dozens upon dozens of miles maybe 100 km for those in 'metric'. A lot cinema which had shut during lockdown seemed to be moving again, maybe rebranded or Re-Open, in a lot of cinema that Five Nights at Freddy's seem to be completely sold out, seating full
I'm not sure if it will be a hit but FNaF shows money can be made.
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I'm at some out of the way place so I don't know how relevant this is to worldwide or US Box Office. Perhaps this also could be discussed in the 'Horror Movies' thread but the past days I drove some dozens upon dozens of miles maybe 100 km for those in 'metric'. A lot cinema which had shut during lockdown seemed to be moving again, maybe rebranded or Re-Open, in a lot of cinema that Five Nights at Freddy's seem to be completely sold out, seating full
I'm not sure if it will be a hit but FNaF shows money can be made.
You've said you don't know if it's going to be a hit like 3 or 4 times already.
I don't understand why you keep saying that. It was undeniably a hit before it opened on Friday with that $10 Million + in previews on Thursday.
As I mentioned in the last post, it's by far the #1 movie of 2023 in terms of Worldwide Opening Weekend vs. Production Budget, having already made 524% of its Production Budget worldwide in only 3 days. #2 on that list is Insidious: The Red Door with a very admirable 400%.
If FNAF didn't make a single dime more and was ripped out of theaters worldwide immediately, it's already a hit.
With 2.5x RoT it's already made the studio $68.5 Million after production, marketing and theater takes in only 3 days. That $68.5 Million alone is nearly 3 times what they spent producing it.
In only 3 days it's already 12th on the list of the most profitable movies in 2023 vs. Production Budget. (If I updated our list today, FNAF probably hits #14 instead of #12).
And since I last updated the list, there were only 22 movies in the top 100 Worldwide that had made any money with the 2.5x RoT. (That number is probably closer to around 28 now if I were to update the list today).
Being in the top 15 out of all of them after only 3 days this late in the year is pretty damn amazing.
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I think I got sucked up in the hype a little too much on this one with my own late predictions. Although I never said it was going to make more than $80 Million for sure, I did say it could make as much as $95 Million after Friday night's numbers came out.
Unless they lowballed the projection by $2 Million, I didn't even get the $80 Million right. It looks like they're saying $78 Million for opening weekend.
Actual numbers finally came in and the projections were indeed $2 Million low.
$80,001,720 Domestic for the first weekend.
https://www.the-numbers.com/movie/Five-Nights-at-Freddys-(2023)#tab=bo
x-office
I still got it.
That puts FNAF's first weekend Worldwide take at 532% of the Production Budget. According to my list that would put it in 11th place so far for the year, but I know that's not right because The Nun II is quite a bit higher than 531% since 9/25.
I'll seriously have to get around to updating that list soon. No reason to wait until the end of the year to do it one last time. It's too outdated to give actual comparisons to anymore, and we've got some major flops starting their rollouts in less than 2 weeks.
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the news articles seem to confirm your predictions,
they are slowly calling it a hit
perhaps they are still in a hissy fit, angry about some twitter type tweet some guy did 10 years ago
Will There Be A ‘Five Nights At Freddy’s 2?’
https://uproxx.com/movies/five-nights-at-freddys-2-sequel/
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2023 the story of indie Horror film, low budget hits, Taylor Swift concert thing, the Oppenheimer Drama Documentary, Barbie Doll and Video Game Adaptation.
I will ignore most critic reviews of this ‘Five Nights At Freddy’s’ film for now
There seems to have been a perverted political civil war with reviews on this movie because of something that happened a long time ago and something some person wrote or said long, long ago.
Also his voting history was leaked he might have voted for or supported Democrat... Tulsi Gabbard and... trigger word....TRUMP !
Respected Critics prove once again how worthless their opinions can be
the posh elite newspaper and website critics and movie fans unconnected and living in totally different worlds?
Five Nights At Freddy's kills the competition in its box office debut by shattering several opening weekend records
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-12686737/Five-Nights-Fre
ddys-kills-competition-box-office-debut-shattering-opening-weekend-records.html
Reddit perverts decided to ban the topic
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Mod Team has decided to ban Five Nights at Freddy's as a topic. While the core idea was beloved by many, the politics surrounding its creator were not.
https://old.reddit.com/r/deadbydaylight/comments/tm1pam/fnaf_is_now_ba
nned_as_a_topic/
not the only sub forum that banned it
Reddit however made a bunch of perverts Mods and Admin, they allowed tranny weirdos who connect to pedophiles and British political creeps to 'moderate' and edit and censor reddit posts
a number of transexual School Shooters have also come from the online reddit community.
Reddit Fires Aimee Knight As Controversial Hire Sees Hundreds of Subreddits Go Private
https://www.newsweek.com/reddit-aimee-knight-challenor-fired-hundreds-
subreddits-private-protest-1578657
Cawthon became a trending topic on Twitter when his publicly available political donations were shared on the website. Except for one donation to Democratic Party representative Tulsi Gabbard, all of Cawthon's donations were to Republican Party politicians, including U.S. President Donald Trump.
He claimed that he had been doxed and had received threats of violence and home invasion after his donations were publicized.
Even before this movie came out the game seems to have been popular or a cult hit and
fivenightsatfreddys seems to have online community of fans
https://www.kotaku.com.au/2018/06/ultimate-custom-night-will-keep-five
-nights-at-freddys-fans-on-their-toes/
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https://www.filmboards.com/board/p/3451985/
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https://www.themoviedb.org/movie/507089-five-nights-at-freddy-s/discus
s/653df8b950733c00e249c50a
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https://www.deviantart.com/orderly-lemon/art/Five-Nights-at-Freddy-s-B
oard-Game-494984413
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https://steamcommunity.com/app/332800/screenshots/
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https://fnaffr.weebly.com/blog/theory-1-five-nights-at-freddys-2-happe
ned-before-five-nights-at-freddys-1
,
https://www.relyonhorror.com/latest-news/five-nights-at-freddys-ar-spe
cial-delivery-enters-early-access-soon/
,
https://prideoscarw.blogspot.com/2015/02/5-nights-at-freeddys-this-one
-of-sraest.html
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https://www.fanpop.com/clubs/five-nights-at-freddys/images/37637604/ti
tle/lets-photo
,
https://www.resetera.com/threads/five-nights-at-freddys-movie-first-of
ficial-posters-released.720013/
https://knowhere-mcu.proboards.com/thread/8343/nights-freddys-movie
https://www.tfw2005.com/boards/threads/five-nights-at-freddys-the-movi
e.1038821/
After being harassed online by strange transexuals and getting death threats by Loons that acted like WishiMay and ReaverFan, the creator of the franchise Cawthon announced his intention to step away from professional game development and appoint someone else to assume creative control of the franchise
The movie landscape is different. Cinema had changed although there are still hits like 'Barbie' and ' Spider-Man No Way Home' the overall trend moves away from movies that made hits the
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Halloween influence - old horror such as The Nun II are making money again, some Halloween film or Haunting in Venice can make money
The Nightmare Before Christmas is back and making some small money
Taylor Swift concert thing winning against Martin Scorsese Killers of the Flower Moon, however it made money as it takes second spot
https://www.manilatimes.net/2023/10/23/entertainment-lifestyle/swift-b
ests-scorsese-at-box-office-but-killers-of-the-flower-moon-opens-strong/1916035
https://sg.style.yahoo.com/taylor-swift-eras-tour-returns-150945203.ht
ml
https://bartlesvilleradio.com/pages/news/398272023/killers-of-the-flow
er-moonopens-in-second-place-over-the-weekend
Five Nights At Freddy’s jump-scares Taylor and Scorsese at the weekend box office
https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/five-nights-freddy-jump-scares-205
800431.html
‘Five Nights at Freddy’s’ notches $130 million global debut
https://www.indianagazette.com/entertainment/five-nights-at-freddy-s-n
otches-130-million-global-debut/article_17a7fe03-a8c3-5b8a-99e6-f729111c7e94.html
Video game adaptation will be the profit winner?
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