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Russia Invades Ukraine. Again

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Monday, June 19, 2023 6:22 AM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
why send either troops or money?

Because Russia has been threatening to nuke the US since Russia got its first nukes? Because those Russian threats cost the US at least $10 trillion for its own nukes to deter Russia from nuking the US? Or because Russia deserves a pummeling? For example:

She thought she was unshockable, then two castrated Ukrainian soldiers arrived

Sexual violence against men is an under-reported part of the Ukraine war. A psychologist describes the impact on her patients of their torture by Russians

https://archive.is/2023.06.17-184144/https://www.thetimes.co.uk/articl
e/4561e12a-0d14-11ee-aa7c-6e26d8c3ad9b


There have been multiple reports of this, even since 2014 when they invaded Donetsk region. And same happened in Georgia in 2008 and Chechnya in the 90s. Afghanistan, Syria, African countries….the list goes on.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Monday, June 19, 2023 1:31 PM

Russian occupation officials are continuing to prioritize medical treatment for Russian military personnel in occupied Mariupol, reportedly significantly increasing the civilian mortality rate in the city. The Ukrainian Resistance Center reported on June 18 that the civilian mortality rate in Mariupol from “natural” causes significantly intensified to a peak of 400 deaths per week – 2.6 times higher than Ukraine’s national mortality rate during the peak of the Covid-19 pandemic. The Ukrainian Resistance Center reported that Mariupol has no functional medical system because all medical facilities are treating Russian military personnel. Russian forces have consistently used civilian medical infrastructure in occupied Ukraine for their own needs, and are struggling to compensate for the resulting shortage in available healthcare personnel and beds.[50]

A Wall Street Journal (WSJ) interview with Russian prisoners of war (POWs) indicates continued significant morale and command issues among frontline Russian units and the continued Russian use of “barrier forces” to shoot retreating soldiers.[11] WSJ amplified the statements of three unidentified Russian POWs who voluntarily surrendered to Ukrainian forces during Ukrainian counteroffensive operations near Velyka Novosilka, on the administrative border between Donetsk and Zaporizhia oblasts. The POWs reported widespread fear of a Ukrainian counteroffensive among Russian forces on the frontlines. The POWs indicated that the Russian military command sees Russian conscripts and penal recruits as expendable, and claimed Russian officers order injured personnel deemed unfit for service back to the front line and use “barrier forces” to prevent penal recruits in “Storm-Z” units from retreating. Barrier forces are specialized units that threaten to shoot their own personnel either to prevent retreats or to force them to attack, and unverified social media footage recently circulated depicting Russian barrier troops shooting retreating Russian forces in Ukraine.[12] The POWs also indicated that Russian forces struggle to supply and staff their units, including struggling to crew tanks and armored vehicles.[13] The POWs expressed concern about returning to Russia in a POW exchange due to Russian laws prohibiting voluntary surrender to the enemy.

https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russian-offensive-campai
gn-assessment-june-18-2023


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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THG
Monday, June 19, 2023 6:31 PM

Russian spy chief flags 'suspicious' Ukrainian nuclear activity

(Reuters) - One of Russia's top spymasters said on Monday he hoped that the U.N. nuclear watchdog and the European Union would look into Ukrainian nuclear activity that he said might signal Kyiv was working on a "dirty bomb".

Sergei Naryshkin, the head of Russia's SVR foreign intelligence service, did not provide documentary evidence to back his assertions.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/russian-spy-chief-flags-suspiciou
s-ukrainian-nuclear-activity/ar-AA1cK8Hu?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=e2a005c948ec4b54a85f5bcc0e2472d5&ei=102




We all know this means Russia is considering using one themselves. This is about deflecting blame to Ukraine. Isn't that right comrade signym?

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Monday, June 19, 2023 7:22 PM

Fuck Ukraine.

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Growing up in a Republic was nice... Shame we couldn't keep it.

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Monday, June 19, 2023 7:35 PM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Fuck Ukraine.

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Growing up in a Republic was nice... Shame we couldn't keep it.

6ix, you should assign to one key the following sentences: "Trump will be fine. LOL. Fuck Ukraine. Trump will be your next President." Making your responses a single keystroke will save you hours per year.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Monday, June 19, 2023 10:53 PM


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
why send either troops or money?

SECOND: Because Russia has been threatening to nuke the US since Russia got its first nukes?

WTF good would THAT do? Beside painting targets on other nations?

Maybe if WE stopped escalating and got back to handling this like adults ... neotiatig treaties AND STICKING WITH THEM... we might fix the problem.

BTW, if "sexual violence against men" was a real story, you'd think it would be splashed all over the internet instead of tucked away in some obscure little article. I don't know who you think you're fooling with your little 'stories'.
troll



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"It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal." - Henry Kissinger

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Tuesday, June 20, 2023 12:56 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:

Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
why send either troops or money?

SECOND: Because Russia has been threatening to nuke the US since Russia got its first nukes?

WTF good would THAT do? Beside painting targets on other nations?

Maybe if WE stopped escalating and got back to handling this like adults ... neotiatig treaties AND STICKING WITH THEM... we might fix the problem.

BTW, if "sexual violence against men" was a real story, you'd think it would be splashed all over the internet instead of tucked away in some obscure little article. I don't know who you think you're fooling with your little 'stories'.
troll

Firefly has lessons on how to handle Russians. Did you see Serenity? The big moment in Serenity was River standing on a pile of dead Reavers. Think Reavers as Russians. River did not capture the Russians and assign them POW status. River didn't contact the International Criminal Court prosecutors and present evidence that the Russians were guilty of War Crimes. Instead, River methodically killed all Russians. Nobody but the Russians would mourn the Russians passing away because Russians are horrible people who have killed tens of millions of Russians and also killed millions of innocent people who aren't Russian. Signym, if you keep insisting the Russians are not murderers, you are worse than a Russian. The Russians will die as Ukrainians slaughter the Russian horde because Russians don't listen to reason, Russians are trying to grow wealthy by stealing Ukrainian land, Russians won't stop murdering people, and Russians can no more stop lying than Signym can. Obviously, a movie like Serenity would not sell many tickets to Russians if the Russians understood that River Tam is extremely prejudiced against people behaving as Russians behave. Renaming the Russians as Reavers doesn't obscure what the movie is about.

Serenity's METASCORE = 76
Generally favorable reviews based on 34 Critic Reviews
https://www.metacritic.com/movie/serenity

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Tuesday, June 20, 2023 1:07 AM

You believe in fantasy?
Troll.

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"It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal." - Henry Kissinger

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Tuesday, June 20, 2023 1:55 AM

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Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:

Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
why send either troops or money?

SECOND: Because Russia has been threatening to nuke the US since Russia got its first nukes?

WTF good would THAT do? Beside painting targets on other nations?

Maybe if WE stopped escalating and got back to handling this like adults ... neotiatig treaties AND STICKING WITH THEM... we might fix the problem.

BTW, if "sexual violence against men" was a real story, you'd think it would be splashed all over the internet instead of tucked away in some obscure little article. I don't know who you think you're fooling with your little 'stories'.
troll

Firefly has lessons on how to handle Russians. Did you see Serenity? The big moment in Serenity was River standing on a pile of dead Reavers. Think Reavers as Russians. River did not capture the Russians and assign them POW status. River didn't contact the International Criminal Court prosecutors and present evidence that the Russians were guilty of War Crimes. Instead, River methodically killed all Russians. Nobody but the Russians would mourn the Russians passing away because Russians are horrible people who have killed tens of millions of Russians and also killed millions of innocent people who aren't Russian. Signym, if you keep insisting the Russians are not murderers, you are worse than a Russian. The Russians will die as Ukrainians slaughter the Russian horde because Russians don't listen to reason, Russians are trying to grow wealthy by stealing Ukrainian land, Russians won't stop murdering people, and Russians can no more stop lying than Signym can. Obviously, a movie like Serenity would not sell many tickets to Russians if the Russians understood that River Tam is extremely prejudiced against people behaving as Russians behave.



Racist.

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Tuesday, June 20, 2023 1:56 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
You believe in fantasy?
Troll.

Fantasy is Putin's entire oeuvre. Putin’s spokesman Dmitry Peskov recently announced the good news: Ukraine has been demilitarized! Here are his exact words:

“Indeed, Ukraine was heavily militarized at the time of the beginning of the Special Military Operation. And, as Putin said yesterday, one of the tasks was to demilitarize Ukraine. In fact, this task is largely completed. Ukraine is using less and less of its weapons. And more and more it uses the weapons systems that Western countries supply it with.”

Peskov’s is a strikingly bizarre interpretation of demilitarization. True, Ukraine has used up much of the equipment and ammunition that hailed from Soviet days. Equally true, it’s been the recipient of far more effective and modern and NATO-compatible weapons systems from the fifty-plus countries in the Ramstein group.

Just how this amounts to demilitarization, especially at a time when Ukraine has launched what appears to be a successful counteroffensive, is unclear.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/putins-big-lie-might-be-a-scheme-
to-exit-the-ukraine-war/ar-AA1cK49k


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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