Russia Invades Ukraine. Again
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Russia is getting much richer.
America is getting poorer.
Troll.
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"It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal." - Henry Kissinger
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Quote:Time will tell if your prediction is correct, but Canada took a path to more wealth for citizens than Russia or US. Canada did this without war, without nukes, and without becoming a new pole in the Russian multipolar world.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Russia is getting much richer.
America is getting poorer.
Troll.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
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Yeah, that whole concept of not spending on WAR? This is where our tax dollars are hemorrhaging.
Now, Canada and many EU nations got away with spending their budgets on social programs instead bc we were hemorrhaging money on weapons. (Stupid, dysfunctional, expen$ive weapons, but everybody was entranced with the idea of the USA being the mightiest military in the world, and budgeted accordingly.)
That's what we get for trying to control everyone, everywhere.
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Yeah.
I keep telling everyone that Justina Tredeau and whoever is currently running the shitshow called Mexico would have to shut their fucking mouths up tight if they didn't have Daddy US Military on their borders.
The same goes for everyone in Europe too. NATO and the UN wouldn't even exist if we didn't go into even more debt that will never be paid off every single year for military expenses.
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Growing up in a Republic was nice... Shame we couldn't keep it.
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Originally posted by second:Quote:If Putin was a useful man, he would not be following the path that Kim Jong Un of North Korea follows in making NK citizens poor compared to South Koreans. Instead, Putin would be following the Canadian path which made Canadian citizens richer than United States citizens. See below, where the median Canadian is richer than the median American. If Canada can do it, Russia could do it better, but Putin's path is definitely not helping Russian citizens.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Well, yes he can. Russia's missiles are accurate enough, and powerful enough. His destruction of Kiev's GRU building proves exactly that.
Why won't he? Well, one possible answer that makes sense is bc he has human assets embedded in Kiev's decision-making centers and he doesn't want to (literally) burn them bc the intel.they provide is very valuable. If that's the case, what do you expect him to say? "I won't destroy your buildings because I have assets embedded there"?
I can guess. Maybe you can't.
List of Countries by Median wealth per adult, in US dollars
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_wealth_per_adult
Iceland $375,735
Luxembourg $350,271
Australia $273,903
Belgium $267,887
New Zealand $231,257
Hong Kong $202,376
Denmark $171,175
Switzerland $168,084
Canada $151,248
Netherlands $142,994
United Kingdom $141,552
France $139,169
Norway $132,482
Japan $119,999
Taiwan $113,938
Italy $112,138
Spain $104,163
Qatar $100,014
Malta $97,524
Sweden $95,051
United States $93,271
South Korea $93,141
Singapore $93,133
Russia $6,919
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
Second finally learned the lesson I tried many times to teach him and he used median instead of mean.
Good doggy.
Only $93k in the US, huh? Sad.
I'm freakin' killing it. Especially for a guy who hasn't worked since summer of 2019.
Just call me Iceleand.
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Actually, we should be looking at modal income and modal wealth (i.e. where most people are,"typical"). If you were to plot (for example) number of people on the vertical axis against income on the horizontal axis, you would find at least one peak.
The typical family gets appx $20,000 in income.
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The New York Times (NYT) released a report supporting ISW’s prior assessment that Russian forces most likely destroyed the Kakhovka Hydroelectric Power Plant (KHPP) dam.[22] NYT cited multiple US and Ukrainian engineering experts who examined diagrams of the KHPP dam, imagery of the destroyed dam foundation, footage of the initial breach, and seismic data. The experts determined that the degree of damage to the dam’s internal structures is consistent with an explosion from within the dam’s internal structures rather than from prior damage. NYT also quoted a senior US military official as saying that the US ruled out an external attack, such as from a missile, rocket, or other projectile, as causing the explosion, and that the US believes that Russian forces most likely caused the internal explosion that caused the dam’s collapse. ISW has assessed since the destruction of the KHPP dam on June 6 that the preponderance of available evidence, reasoning, and rhetoric suggests that Russian forces deliberately damaged the dam.[23]
https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russian-offensive-campai
gn-assessment-june-17-2023
An Inside Job
By James Glanz, Marc Santora, Pablo Robles, Haley Willis, Lauren Leatherby, Christoph Koettl and Dmitriy Khavin, June 16, 2023
A dam in Ukraine was designed to withstand almost any attack imaginable — from the outside. The evidence suggests Russia blew it up from within.
Deep inside the dam was an Achilles’ heel. And because the dam was built during Soviet times, Moscow had every page of the engineering drawings and knew where it was. The dam was built with an enormous concrete block as its foundation. A small passageway runs through it, reachable from the dam's machine room. It was in this passageway, the evidence suggests, that an explosive charge detonated and destroyed the dam. At 2:35 a.m on June 6, seismic sensors in Ukraine and Romania detected the telltale signs of large explosions. As the water levels further dropped this week, they fell below the top of the concrete foundation. The section that collapsed was not visible above the water line — strong evidence that the foundation had suffered structural damage, engineers said. In the chaotic aftermath, with each side blaming the other for the collapse, multiple explanations are theoretically possible. But the evidence clearly suggests the dam was crippled by an explosion set off by the side that controls it: Russia. 
https://web.archive.org/web/20230617202758/https://www.nytimes.com/int
eractive/2023/06/16/world/europe/ukraine-kakhovka-dam-collapse.html
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
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Quote:Signym, I believe that looking only at how many $billions the US spends on defense is absolutely the wrong way to look at what went wrong with the US.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Yeah, that whole concept of not spending on WAR? This is where our tax dollars are hemorrhaging.
Now, Canada and many EU nations got away with spending their budgets on social programs instead bc we were hemorrhaging money on weapons. (Stupid, dysfunctional, expen$ive weapons, but everybody was entranced with the idea of the USA being the mightiest military in the world, and budgeted accordingly.)
That's what we get for trying to control everyone, everywhere.
Defense spending as a percentage of gdp gives a different and better answer.
https://www.google.com/search?q=defense+spending+percentage+of+gdp
List of countries by military expenditures ($ billions) and gdp %
0 World total $2,240 2.2% 100%
1 US $877.0 3.5% 39%
2 China $292.0 1.6% 13%
3 Russia $86.4 4.1% 3.9%
4 India $81.4 2.4% 3.6%
5 Saudi Arabia $75.0 7.4% 3.3%
6 UK $68.5 2.2% 3.1%
7 Germany $55.8 1.4% 2.5%
8 France $53.6 1.9% 2.4%
9 S Korea $46.4 2.7% 2.1%
10 Japan $46.0 1.1% 2.1%
11 Ukraine $44.0 34% 2.0%
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_military_expenditur
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The US spends 3.5% of gdp on defense and Ukraine spends 34%
If you were spending 3.5% of your income on alcohol and drinking it all, it would seriously addle your brain and lower your income (cutting it in half or worse) because of hangovers. But if you poured the alcohol down the drain or gave it to friends who are alcoholics rather than drinking it yourself, your life would be almost unaffected by wasting 3.5% of your income. Every time the US spent 3.5% of gdp to send US troops overseas, the entire US got a hangover. See the Iraq War or the Afghanistan War for recent examples. It is much better to NOT send US troops. Send US money instead and avoid the terrible hangover.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
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why send either troops or money?
Are not many of these other nations that receive our foreign aid, troops, and/or protection themselves prosperous, developed nations able to look after their own national security? As I recall, that was the reason for Trump's inisistance that the NATO nations pay at least 2.2 pct of their GDP into military spending. After all, an aliance is supposed to be about MUTUAL defense, not giving 32 other nations a free ride forever.
Altho IMHO NATO has morphed into an aggressive entity not a muual defense pact.
It should be reduced and reconstituted, and ALL member nations should be equally responsible for defense.
In addition, every single one of our deployments has been to fight as aggessors on foreign soil. The USA has not fought a war to defend itself since the War of 1812. Or, some would say, the Civil War. What did the FF say about avoiding foreign entanglements?
Anyway, to get to prosperity for a moment: IMHO a nation cant be TRULY properous unless it has a productive, balanced economy as much as it is able. And that means ... yes, actually prosucing things. Tons of steel. Tons of grain. Barrels of oil, cubic meters of gas, tons of cement, chips, fertilizer, basic industrial chemicals, pharamceuticals, wood products, textiles, whatever it can produce it should. Many nations bc of historical accident are too small and have too few resources to be even modestly self sufficient; Japan and Cuba for example lack nearly every critical resource necessary for a modern economy. The USA, Russia, Canada, India and Brazil tho have great promise.
USA elites ditched production in favor of financialism, where costs are lower and returns are higher. Altho technically richer, if you discount non-productive entries int our GDP like the 'value' homeowners MIGHT receive IF they were torent their homes (yes, such bullshit really does enter into our so-called 'GDP') or look at purchasing power parity (PPP) or modal living standards, the USA doesnt stack up so hot
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