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The top two officials at the Department of Homeland Security are serving unlawfully in their roles, the Government Accountability Office (GAO) said Friday, dealing a rebuke to President Trump’s affinity for filling senior executive roles in his administration with “acting” leaders who lack Senate confirmation.
www.govexec.com/management/2020/08/top-two-homeland-security-officials
-are-serving-illegally-gao-rules/167714/
Good for the GAO, but how many Army divisions do they have to make Trump obey the law? This is a president who’s deliberately wrecking the post office to gain a partisan advantage over Democrats. He sent troops to Portland to create chaos that would help sell his law-and-order campaign theme. He’s pulled the birther card, that they are foreigners who can’t legally be President, against Senator Barack Obama, then Senator Ted Cruz, and now Senator Kamala Harris. He had protesters near the White House gassed so he could do a photo op. He pardons his pals even if they’ve committed crimes so obvious that even Attorney General Bill Barr calls their prosecution righteous. He retweets lunatic QAnon conspiracies. He tried to get a foreign leader to open a criminal investigation of a political opponent. He has relentlessly tried to undermine the U.S. Census. And he’s done all this stuff without protest from the Republican Party.
So what are the odds that Republican Senators will try to make him obey the law now? About zero, I think.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Originally posted by second:Quote:You are such a moron, 6ix. From 3 years back: NBA Viewership Hits Five Year Low; How Does League Fix Problem?
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
lol Some NBA games getting under a million views.
Who knew that getting woke leads to going broke?
Oh...
wait.
Seriously. Fuck the NBA.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
No.
They're trying to put spin on it like they always do and pretend that this is the case.
People haven't been allowed to do anything they used to do for going on half a year now, and that includes watching sports. They should be starved for even the shittiest basketball games out there.
The MLB quickly did a course correction and stopped the BLM shit. They're not hurting nearly as badly as the NBA is now because of it.
Fucking NASCAR is beating them both, with one of the drivers allowed to put "Back the Blue" on his car.
But hey... Not my business if they don't want to learn from their mistakes and keep lying to themselves. I've got no stake in the league.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Quote:6ix, you know as little about basketball as you do about success, but in this you are no different than every Texan/Trump voter I know, except for the rich ones, who didn't get rich by letting illformed political opinions overrule facts.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:Quote:
Originally posted by second:Quote:You are such a moron, 6ix. From 3 years back: NBA Viewership Hits Five Year Low; How Does League Fix Problem?
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
lol Some NBA games getting under a million views.
Who knew that getting woke leads to going broke?
Oh...
wait.
Seriously. Fuck the NBA.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
No.
They're trying to put spin on it like they always do and pretend that this is the case.
People haven't been allowed to do anything they used to do for going on half a year now, and that includes watching sports. They should be starved for even the shittiest basketball games out there.
The MLB quickly did a course correction and stopped the BLM shit. They're not hurting nearly as badly as the NBA is now because of it.
Fucking NASCAR is beating them both, with one of the drivers allowed to put "Back the Blue" on his car.
But hey... Not my business if they don't want to learn from their mistakes and keep lying to themselves. I've got no stake in the league.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
From 3 years back: NBA Viewership Hits Five Year Low; How Does League Fix Problem?
www.outkick.com/nba-viewership-hits-five-year-low-league-fix-problem/
Superteams can be both good for the NBA Finals, when the largest possible audience arrives to watch the NBA product, but simultaneously bad for the rest of the season, when fans tune out because they already know who the two best teams are. In fact, in a modern communications era when we all have so many different entertainment options to consider, doesn’t it make perfect sense that most people would ignore the NBA until the NBA Finals arrive? After all, if you already know it’s going to be Warriors-Cavs in the NBA Finals, why do you care about the journey to the final?
As is, unlike every other major sport in America, we already know exactly what will happen in the NBA, so why watch until the very end? After all, how many people would watch “Game of Thrones” from start to finish if they knew exactly how the series ended?
The NBA is broken and fans are abandoning its product save for the NBA Finals themselves. So how do you fix things? I’ve got three suggestions: . . .
I think if all three of these rules were implemented we could make the NBA great again.
As is, the NBA set a five year viewership low this year and is likely to continue to decline again next season. Without talent distributed somewhat evenly across the league, fans tune out until the NBA Finals. Given how many entertainment options fans have today, the NBA is at real risk of becoming a one month season, just like college basketball already has.
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Blah, blah, blah...
Keep posting bullshit. I don't have any stake in the NBA.
I used to be a superfan back in the 90's and early 2000's but couldn't give a shit less about it anymore. If they want to kill their viewership by hyper-politicizing the sport, go right ahead.
Baseball has managed just fine with 162 meaningless games per year. The NBA only has 82 meaningless games per year, and it's arguably a more popular sport than Football, which doesn't have any meaningless games.
That's a lot of lost ad revenue if they cut the NBA down to only 1 month seasons. Would be a shame for them to have to do that because they can't keep their mouths shut and just play ball.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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https://news.gallup.com/poll/317474/say-neither-candidate-good-preside
nt.aspx
52% of Democrats/leaners wish someone else were their nominee
36% say Biden would be a good president; 33% say Trump would
42% of Americans view Trump favorably; 47% view Biden favorably
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Quote:It feels like the 1944 United States presidential election. FDR looked like he was dying and would definitively be dead shortly after. Robert Trump dropped dead this week while Donald, his older and fatter brother who won't release his medical records, could die sooner than Biden. Trump had two brothers; both died younger than Trump is now. It can't be long for Trump.
Originally posted by 1KIKI:
https://news.gallup.com/poll/317474/say-neither-candidate-good-preside
nt.aspx
52% of Democrats/leaners wish someone else were their nominee
36% say Biden would be a good president; 33% say Trump would
42% of Americans view Trump favorably; 47% view Biden favorably
www.politico.com/news/2020/06/24/trump-biden-health-poll-335993
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Yeah, let's not pay attention to the large numbers of democrat-leaning independent voters WHO WILL SWING THE ELECTION who don't like Biden.
https://news.gallup.com/poll/317474/say-neither-candidate-good-preside
nt.aspx
52% of Democrats/leaners wish someone else were their nominee
36% say Biden would be a good president; 33% say Trump would
42% of Americans view Trump favorably; 47% view Biden favorably
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Originally posted by second:Quote:It feels like the 1944 United States presidential election. FDR looked like he was dying and would definitively be dead shortly after. Robert Trump dropped dead this week while Donald, his older and fatter brother who won't release his medical records, could die sooner than Biden. Trump had two brothers; both died younger than Trump is now. It can't be long for Trump.
Originally posted by 1KIKI:
https://news.gallup.com/poll/317474/say-neither-candidate-good-preside
nt.aspx
52% of Democrats/leaners wish someone else were their nominee
36% say Biden would be a good president; 33% say Trump would
42% of Americans view Trump favorably; 47% view Biden favorably
www.politico.com/news/2020/06/24/trump-biden-health-poll-335993
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
We're back to Second hoping that Trump dies soon.
Reality must be hitting him too hard today.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Quote:In Texas, we've got lots of men exactly like Trump: fat dumb motherfuckers. You know what stops them? Their eating habits kill them. If I put these guys under significant legal or financial pressure and they just have strokes or heart attacks and die. It is a very satisfying way to suddenly win in a business struggle. Makes winning look easy. Same could happen to Trump. He is one fat dumb bastard of a businessman who breaks his contracts. He is going to blow himself up one day and die from a cerebral hemorrhage. It happened to FDR and Woodrow Wilson while they were President. It can happen to Trump.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
We're back to Second hoping that Trump dies soon.
Reality must be hitting him too hard today.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
www.history.com/this-day-in-history/woodrow-wilson-suffers-a-stroke
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Just How Far Will Trump Go?
The president has dramatically accelerated the pace of his efforts to weaponize the federal government to his advantage.
https://web.archive.org/web/20200814223426/https://www.theatlantic.com
/politics/archive/2020/08/trumps-weaponization-usps-and-census/615235/
Trump is systematically enlisting agencies, including the Postal Service, Census Bureau, Department of Justice, and Department of Homeland Security, that traditionally have been considered at least somewhat insulated from political machinations to reward his allies and punish those he considers his enemies. He is razing barriers between his personal and political interests and the core operations of the federal government to an extent that no president has previously attempted, a wide range of public-administration experts have told me.
“There’s always been temptation … but no president in modern times has taken action so explicitly and obviously—or transparently—to influence and actually direct these agencies to favor the party in power,” Paul Light, a public-service professor at New York University, told me. “None. None.”
The result of Trump’s moves: an executive branch whose full reach and power is being conscripted to serve the president’s immediate interests. “All of it comes from a place that whatever is in his personal interest—whether it’s financial, reputational, or political—if it benefits him, the government is merely a tool for serving himself,” Walter Shaub, the director of the Office of Government Ethics under former President Barack Obama, told me. “He has simply crossed lines that no one would even conceive of crossing in the past.”
Experts I spoke with said that Trump has dramatically accelerated the pace of his efforts to weaponize federal actions since his Senate acquittal, when every Republican, except Utah’s Mitt Romney, voted to dismiss the charges against him with no sanction and not even a full-scale trial to explore the evidence.
In the past, the census has occasionally faced questions about its accuracy. But never before Trump has there been evidence of a president deliberately trying to skew the results in a manner that helps one party. “I don’t think there’s ever been a charge that the census was systematically unfair,” says Donald Kettl, a longtime scholar of federal administration, now at the University of Texas at Austin.
Until now, the reason for avoiding census tampering has seemed obvious: It was thought that everyone benefits from an accurate count (just as everyone was thought to benefit from an apolitical military, among other institutions Trump has tried to manipulate). Billions of dollars in federal aid are tied to population, so presumably every state would want as many of its people counted as possible. “A complete count is important no matter what state you are in, because so many federal and state programs are tied to the numbers of people,” Steve Murdock, who served as the Census Bureau’s director under President George W. Bush, told me. “You don’t gain much by not counting the people you have to provide services for.”
But in a political environment defined by widening polarization along racial and geographic lines, that traditional restraint has apparently broken down. Hardly any congressional Republicans have raised concerns about Trump’s determination to curtail the census count. That includes Republicans from highly diverse states across the Sun Belt, which are likely to be among the biggest losers if minority populations are systematically undercounted, both in terms of federal aid and the apportionment of congressional seats and Electoral College votes. This week, I asked the offices of GOP senators from Florida, Texas, Arizona, and Georgia if they had any objection to Trump short-circuiting the census count. All refused to respond, except Florida’s Marco Rubio, whose staff referred me only to a comment he’d made on a related issue, Trump’s effort to exclude the undocumented from apportionment. (And even on that question, Rubio avoided taking a definitiv
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Originally posted by second:Quote:In Texas, we've got lots of men exactly like Trump: fat dumb motherfuckers. You know what stops them? Their eating habits kill them. If I put these guys under significant legal or financial pressure and they just have strokes or heart attacks and die. It is a very satisfying way to suddenly win in a business struggle. Makes winning look easy. Same could happen to Trump. He is one fat dumb bastard of a businessman who breaks his contracts. He is going to blow himself up one day and die from a cerebral hemorrhage. It happened to FDR and Woodrow Wilson while they were President. It can happen to Trump.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
We're back to Second hoping that Trump dies soon.
Reality must be hitting him too hard today.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
www.history.com/this-day-in-history/woodrow-wilson-suffers-a-stroke
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
Get a load of the hate everyone.
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Originally posted by 1KIKI:
https://news.gallup.com/poll/317474/say-neither-candidate-good-preside
nt.aspx
52% of Democrats/leaners wish someone else were their nominee
36% say Biden would be a good president; 33% say Trump would
42% of Americans view Trump favorably; 47% view Biden favorably
Kiki’s hoping nobody notices that her numbers only reflect what ifs. Like, would you like to have a different choice? Not how these same people are actually going to vote. There are polls for that as well. None show Trump has a chance in hell of winning.
T
Stupid people don't know they're stupid, and they certainly don't realize how obvious it is to others.
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Quote:Any links for your claims?
Originally posted by THG:
Kiki’s hoping nobody notices that her numbers only reflect what ifs. Like, would you like to have a different choice? Not how these same people are actually going to vote. There are polls for that as well. None show Trump has a chance in hell of winning.
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Quote:Any links for your claims?
Originally posted by 1KIKI:Quote:
Originally posted by THG:
Kiki’s hoping nobody notices that her numbers only reflect what ifs. Like, would you like to have a different choice? Not how these same people are actually going to vote. There are polls for that as well. None show Trump has a chance in hell of winning.
Absolutely, Jacks thread.
http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=63767
T
Stupid people don't know they're stupid, and they certainly don't realize how obvious it is to others.
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Donald Trump didn't invent vote suppression — he's just taking it to the next level
Undermining voting rights and squelching democracy isn't just a Trump thing. It's been a GOP thing for decades
https://www.salon.com/2020/08/17/donald-trump-didnt-invent-vote-suppre
ssion--hes-just-taking-it-to-the-next-level/
Trump is taking it to a new level, however, by attempting to suppress Republican votes right along with Democrats. For years the GOP has been pushing voting by mail to help their senior and rural constituencies who have tended to prefer it. R Roughly one-fourth of Trump's votes in 2016 were delivered by mail.
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Originally posted by THUGGER:
Kiki’s hoping nobody notices that her numbers only reflect what ifs. Like, would you like to have a different choice? Not how these same people are actually going to vote. There are polls for that as well. None show Trump has a chance in hell of winning.
Quote:
Originally posted by 1kiki:
Any links for your claims?
Quote:Well, if you live by the polls then you die by them.
Originally posted by THUGGER:
Absolutely, Jacks thread.
http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=63767
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CNN Poll of Polls: Biden's lead is narrowing
https://edition.cnn.com/2020/08/17/politics/biden-trump-poll-of-polls-
august-election/index.html
That's backed up by my scan of nearly a dozen betting sites and other polls.
Biden was a poor choice. Adding Harris on top was an extra helping of a poor choice.
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Quote:Trump winning won't make the GOP competent to govern. After 4 years of him, voters should ask themselves "Why Are Republicans Failing to Govern?"
Originally posted by 1KIKI:
That's backed up by my scan of nearly a dozen betting sites and other polls.
Biden was a poor choice. Adding Harris on top was an extra helping of a poor choice.
Managing a pandemic is difficult in the best of circumstances, but it’s almost impossible for the party built around mistrust of the government and opposition to social services.
The coronavirus death toll shows that what America is doing now is not working. The experiences of Europe and Asia show that the virus can be controlled. So what do congressional Republicans think should happen next?
On this question, every answer was a verbal shrug. Collectively, congressional Republicans have no theory for containing the virus. And they don’t really see it as their job to come up with one. It may have been the Trump administration’s job, but the White House decided to leave it to state and local governments.
That’s left congressional Republicans in a bind. To admit a new strategy is needed is to say that Trump is failing, and few are willing to risk the predictable reprisals. Moreover, congressional Republicans are uncomfortable proposing the kinds of strategies that have worked elsewhere. For instance: Pushing America back into lockdown while spending tens of billions to set up a true test-trace-isolate strategy would also require a multitrillion-dollar support package so families and businesses could survive the return to economic deep-freeze. Few Republicans want to do that.
“There’s a certain amount of motivated reasoning here,” says the top GOP staffer. “If you’re not going to have government intervention, you can’t have the lockdowns.”
That brings me to the explanation for GOP behavior that is almost unanimous among Senate Democrats I’ve spoken to. They believe Republicans are readying themselves to run the strategy against former Vice President Joe Biden they ran against President Obama: Weaponize the debt — which Republicans ran up by trillions during the Trump administration — as a cudgel against anything and everything the Democrats want to do. Force Democrats to take sole ownership of an economic response that’s too small to truly counteract the pain.
If Republicans are behaving like an opposition party that primarily wants to stop Democrats from doing anything, that’s because it’s the role they’re most comfortable playing.
More at https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2020/8/17/21368234/trump-repub
licans-covid-19-2020-democrats-senate-relief-stimulus-polls
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Originally posted by THG:Quote:Any links for your claims?
Originally posted by 1KIKI:Quote:
Originally posted by THG:
Kiki’s hoping nobody notices that her numbers only reflect what ifs. Like, would you like to have a different choice? Not how these same people are actually going to vote. There are polls for that as well. None show Trump has a chance in hell of winning.
Absolutely, Jacks thread.
http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=63767
T
Stupid people don't know they're stupid, and they certainly don't realize how obvious it is to others.
Idiot Ted still doesn't get that my thread was how to read aggregates (which he still doesn't understand) and how to watch trends (which he still doesn't know how to do).
The polls themselves are bullshit, just like they were 4 years ago.
But following trending information from the polls is important.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Stupid people don't know they're stupid, and they certainly don't realize how obvious it is to others.
Applebaum, Will And Frum On Watching Trump Change The Rules
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Quote:Trump losing won't make the democrats fit to govern, either.
Originally posted by second:
Trump winning won't make the GOP competent to govern.
And if democrats don't do any different, how are they any better?
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Quote:1kiki, your problem is you don't like a two-party system. Neither do I, but so long as it is winner-takes-all at election times, your choice is Democrat, Republican, or Nothing. Nothing means don't vote or vote for a third party that will seldom to never elect anybody to a legislature. Then the next problem is the quality and performance of the elected legislature or officials. Like winner-takes-all, a bad system if there ever was one, there is no fast way to remove incompetent/lazy/dishonest/criminal/mentally-ill politicians before the next election. That, too, needs fixing, but would require rewriting the Constitutions of every state and the nation. I assume the writers of the Constitutions in the various states did not like the idea of politicians being fired from the job on very short notice. Instead, America went to a system of assassinating Presidents. Four have been murdered. Others have been shot but survived. Still others were lucky enough to have the bullets miss them.
Originally posted by 1KIKI:Quote:Trump losing won't make the democrats fit to govern, either.
Originally posted by second:
Trump winning won't make the GOP competent to govern.
And if democrats don't do any different, how are they any better?
Two-party system
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Two-party_system
List of presidents of the United States who died in office
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_presidents_of_the_United_States_
who_died_in_office
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Originally posted by second:Quote:1kiki, your problem is you don't like a two-party system. Neither do I, but so long as it is winner-takes-all at election times, your choice is Democrat, Republican, or Nothing. Nothing means don't vote or vote for a third party that will seldom to never elect anybody to a legislature. Then the next problem is the quality and performance of the elected legislature or officials. Like winner-takes-all, a bad system if there ever was one, there is no fast way to remove incompetent/lazy/dishonest/criminal/mentally-ill politicians before the next election. That, too, needs fixing, but would require rewriting the Constitutions of every state and the nation. I assume the writers of the Constitutions in the various states did not like the idea of politicians being fired from the job on very short notice. Instead, America went to a system of assassinating Presidents. Four have been murdered. Others have been shot but survived. Still others were lucky enough to have the bullets miss them.
Originally posted by 1KIKI:Quote:Trump losing won't make the democrats fit to govern, either.
Originally posted by second:
Trump winning won't make the GOP competent to govern.
And if democrats don't do any different, how are they any better?
Two-party system
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Two-party_system
List of presidents of the United States who died in office
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_presidents_of_the_United_States_
who_died_in_office
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
Uh oh.
Second knows his guy is going to lose.
That's why he's bringing up assassination again.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Quote:Three times Presidents have been impeached. Three times those Presidents should have been removed from office, but the Senate failed. The Constitutional system for handling criminal/mentally-ill/incompetent Presidents was badly designed. The system can't even solve a simple arithmetic problem where a President underpays on his tax returns. See Richard Nixon or Donald Trump tax returns.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Uh oh.
Second knows his guy is going to lose.
That's why he's bringing up assassination again.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
Trump's tax schemes are eerily similar to Nixon's, except for a few key differences
www.businessinsider.com/trumps-tax-schemes-similar-to-nixons-few-diffe
rences-2018-10
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Yeah. Sure. Whatever.
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Quote:"Whatever" is correct. Trump has avoided paying $billions in back taxes for years by going to court. The tax courts in America are completely broken in favor of the wealthy, but maybe not the civil courts:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Yeah. Sure. Whatever.
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Manhattan Supreme Court Justice Verna Saunders reasoned that the high court's 7-2 decision in July rejecting broad claims of presidential immunity—in a case over a Manhattan grand jury subpoena seeking financial records—applied not only to criminal proceedings but also to author E. Jean Carroll's civil complaint against President Donald Trump.
By Jane Wester | August 07, 2020 at 01:46 PM
www.law.com/newyorklawjournal/2020/08/07/supreme-court-ruling-on-trump
s-tax-returns-means-he-must-face-ny-defamation-suit-judge-rules/
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Yeah. Sure. Whatever.
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Quote:I wonder what democrats intend to do about it.
In 1985, the C(ost of Thriving Index) stood at 30 — the median male worker needed thirty weeks of income to afford a house, a car, health care, and education. By 2018, the COTI had increased to 53—a full-time job was insufficient to afford these items, let alone the others that a family needs. A generation ago, the worker could be confident in his ability to provide his family not only with the basics of food, clothing, and shelter, but also with the middle-class essentials of a house, a car, health care, and education. Now he cannot.
https://americanaffairsjournal.org/2020/02/the-cost-of-thriving/
And if democrats don't do any different, how are they any better?
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Quote:Your answer is in the Democratic Party platform:
Originally posted by 1KIKI:Quote:I wonder what democrats intend to do about it.
In 1985, the C(ost of Thriving Index) stood at 30 — the median male worker needed thirty weeks of income to afford a house, a car, health care, and education. By 2018, the COTI had increased to 53—a full-time job was insufficient to afford these items, let alone the others that a family needs. A generation ago, the worker could be confident in his ability to provide his family not only with the basics of food, clothing, and shelter, but also with the middle-class essentials of a house, a car, health care, and education. Now he cannot.
https://americanaffairsjournal.org/2020/02/the-cost-of-thriving/
And if democrats don't do any different, how are they any better?
https://democrats.org/where-we-stand/party-platform/raise-incomes-and-
restore-economic-security-for-the-middle-class/
No item in the platform will become law because the Republicans oppose all of it, every single line, while the Democrats won't have 67 Senators to override the Republican objections. Because of the rules, 51 or 52 or 53 or 54 or 55 or 56 or 57 or 58 or 59 or more like-minded Democratic Senators are insufficient to get laws passed. We can't change this system inherited from the Founding Fathers. We can't avoid gridlock in the Senate unless one side or the other has 67 Senators to get large projects passed into laws.
www.senate.gov/reference/glossary_term/override_of_a_veto.htm
www.senate.gov/artandhistory/history/common/briefing/Filibuster_Clotur
e.htm
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Trump cabinet officials voted in 2018 White House meeting to separate migrant children, say officials
"If we don't enforce this, it is the end of our country as we know it," said Trump adviser Stephen Miller, say officials present at a White House meeting.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/immigration/trump-cabinet-officials-v
oted-2018-white-house-meeting-separate-migrant-n1237416
T
Stupid people don't know they're stupid, and they certainly don't realize how obvious it is to others.
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Quote:Should a Biden DOJ Investigate and Prosecute Trump?
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
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https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2020/08/should-biden-prosecute-tru
mp-michelle-goldberg-mike-pesca-debate.html
We just learned that the Senate, that this Republican-led Senate committee, made criminal referrals for many people close to Donald Trump, and the Justice Department never, apparently, took them up. I think there should be an expectation that the next Justice Department, not that it’s going to prosecute, but that it’s going to investigate.
There were arguments not to do this with George W. Bush, when Barack Obama came into office. And those arguments made sense at the time. Obama was facing an economic crisis; this is all hands on deck. The bandwidth of the administration is limited. He wants to move the country forward. He sort of ran on this kind of post-partisan, bringing the country together message.
It’s easy for me to see why they felt like those arguments were persuasive at the time. But you look at the result: It created even more of a culture of impunity in the Republican Party where the people who are now enacting illegal schemes on Trump’s behalf probably feel very little compunction about what this might mean to their future careers.
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He's already been investigated you dumb shit.
Seriously. Get on some medication.
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Quote:Trump has NOT been investigated. Where are Trump's income tax returns? He is still fighting to keep those a secret, which is completely senseless if he was ever sincere about releasing those tax returns to the public after the IRS audit was over. Trump, with tax returns and all his accountants, needs to sit down with auditors who can force answers from him.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
He's already been investigated you dumb shit.
Seriously. Get on some medication.
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Trump tax cheating has not been investigated by anybody who can make him pay.
www.google.com/search?q=trump+tax+cheating
Then there is Trump and the Russian "hoax". Trump has NOT been investigated on why he keeps insisting it was a hoax when it has been proven to NOT be a hoax.
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Senate Republicans provide hard evidence that shreds Trump’s persistent lies about a Russia ‘hoax’
A Republican-led Senate committee chronicles the “grave counterintelligence threat” posed by the extensive contacts between Trump’s former campaign chairman and a Russian intelligence operative.
The final volume of the report by the Senate Intelligence Committee’s Russia investigation arrives late in the game. Still, it offers the detailed accounting of how Russian spies worked with the Trump team that former special counsel Robert S. Mueller III should have given the country last year. It offers raw material for the wide-ranging impeachment inquiry that the House of Representatives should have conducted.
Here at last is hard evidence — certified by GOP committee leaders and published this week — that shreds Trump’s false claims of a Russia “hoax” or “witch hunt.” Let us never hear that glib dismissal of fact again. From now on, the simple answer to Trump is: “That’s not what Senate Republicans found.”
Read this passage from the report and consider what it tells us about Trump and his apologists: “The Committee observed numerous Russian-government actors from late 2016 until at least January 2020 consistently spreading overlapping false narratives which sought to discredit investigations into Russian interference.”
One goal of this coverup was to “promote the narrative that Ukraine, not Russia, had interfered in the 2016 U.S. election,” the Senate report says. Sound familiar? It should. This lie has been voiced repeatedly by Trump and his defenders.
More at https://attentiontotheunseen.com/2020/08/21/senate-republicans-provide
-hard-evidence-that-shreds-trumps-persistent-lies-about-a-russia-hoax/
and
www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/hard-evidence-at-last-that-shreds-trum
ps-lies-about-a-russia-hoax/2020/08/20/17df6bcc-e31a-11ea-8181-606e603bb1c4_story.html
To read the text of “Volume 5: Counterintelligence Threats and Vulnerabilities”
www.intelligence.senate.gov/press/senate-intel-releases-volume-5-bipar
tisan-russia-report
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Where are Trump's income tax returns?
They're with the IRS, retard.
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Quote:Funny how the IRS has NOT collected about $1 trillion per year in taxes owed. Why not collect the money? IRS is not capable of auditing rich people.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:Quote:
Originally posted by second:
Where are Trump's income tax returns?
They're with the IRS, retard.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
https://fortune.com/2016/04/29/tax-evasion-cost/
On the other hand, the New York Times is very capable of finding tax cheating by the wealthy. NYT used Donald Trump's tax returns given them by Mary Trump, the niece who was cheated out of her inheritance until she sued the pants off of Trump, and the NYTs found plenty of Donald's cheating that was older than the statute of limitations. Trump didn't stop cheating just because he lost one case with his niece.
Trump Engaged in Suspect Tax Schemes as He Reaped Riches From His Father
www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/10/02/us/politics/donald-trump-tax-sc
hemes-fred-trump.html
Donald Trump Is a Criminal Tax Cheat
www.thenation.com/article/archive/donald-trump-is-a-criminal-tax-cheat/
Tax Fraud By The Numbers: The Trump Timeline
www.ais-cpa.com/tax-fraud-by-the-numbers-the-trump-timeline/
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Originally posted by second:Quote:Funny how the IRS has NOT collected about $1 trillion per year in taxes owed. Why not collect the money? IRS is not capable of auditing rich people.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:Quote:
Originally posted by second:
Where are Trump's income tax returns?
They're with the IRS, retard.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
On the other hand, the New York Times is very capable of finding tax cheating by the wealthy.
Maybe the NYT should do the taxes going forward.
They're really bad at doing news.
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Quote:Until this year, Trump was running a $1 trillion budget deficit per year, which just so happens to be about how much the wealthy don't pay because they cheat on their taxes and the IRS does not know it because Congress is under-funding auditing by the IRS.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:Quote:
Originally posted by second:Quote:Funny how the IRS has NOT collected about $1 trillion per year in taxes owed. Why not collect the money? IRS is not capable of auditing rich people.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:Quote:
Originally posted by second:
Where are Trump's income tax returns?
They're with the IRS, retard.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
On the other hand, the New York Times is very capable of finding tax cheating by the wealthy.
Maybe the NYT should do the taxes going forward.
They're really bad at doing news.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
www.cbpp.org/federal-tax/depletion-of-irs-enforcement-is-undermining-t
he-tax-code
Enforcement of Tax Laws - High Risk Issue
Addressing the tax gap—the difference between taxes owed and those paid on time—could help improve the government’s fiscal position
www.gao.gov/key_issues/tax_laws/issue_summary
Every wealthy person in America knows the IRS can't catch them cheating and most take advantage of the IRS's weakness. Trump does. He bragged about it!
"Donald Trump Is a Criminal Tax Cheat"
https://web.archive.org/web/20200822133002/https://www.thenation.com/a
rticle/archive/donald-trump-is-a-criminal-tax-cheat/
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Evil Geniuses The Unmaking of America: A Recent History
By Kurt Andersen
Andersen sets out to narrate a complex, many-layered history of how a band of rich people, corporate executives and political right-wingers, aided and abetted by gullible “useful idiots” in the media and the political left, transformed the nation into a casino where only they ever win.
Book review at
www.nytimes.com/2020/08/11/books/review/kurt-andersen-evil-geniuses.ht
ml
Quote:
With his own complicity in mind, one place Andersen does break some new ground is in the portrayal of the shameful liberal complicity that was essential to the long plutocratic hijacking. It is head-spinning to be reminded how much of the nation’s turn to the right and to the rich the Democrats enabled. The Democrat-controlled House voted to cut taxes on the richest Americans, to a rate lower than at any time in the previous half century. Ronald Reagan couldn’t do it without them and, in the Senate, one Joe Biden voted for the cuts, too. As the tide turned against antitrust regulation, writers in The New York Times (oh yeah, this newspaper) and Newsweek cheered.
Voting for cable deregulation? Hiring Goldman Sachs bankers as advisers? Praising Charles Murray’s advocacy of punishing mothers on welfare? Each time, Democrats were #OnIt. With Democrats like these, do we even need a second party representing the plutes?
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Looks like Stephen King is no longer on my read/watch list.
Pity.
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Quote:You are years late noticing what King tweets about Trump:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Looks like Stephen King is no longer on my read/watch list.
Pity.
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Stephen King @StephenKing
When Blabbermouth Don talks about who has the bigger nuclear button, I think we all know what he's talking about. It's your basic dick-measuring contest. Sad!
8:15 PM Jan 2,2018
2.
Stephen King @StephenKing
Legislators, you need to impeach Blabbermouth Don or force him to resign before he kills us all. He is no longer competent to serve as Chief Executive, if he ever was.
6:33 AM Jan 3,2018
37 of the most brutal Trump burns tweeted by Stephen King in 2018
More at https://mashable.com/article/stephen-king-donald-trump-twitter-burns-2
018/
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Of course, AOC's seat is incredibly safe. Her district loves her. She's got it for as long as she wants it.
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Looks like Stephen King is no longer on my read/watch list.
Pity.
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I'm not a twitter whore. That's no surprise to me.
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Republicans Declare Their 2020 Platform Is Supporting Whatever Trump Wants.
Less than 24 hours before their national convention begins, the Republican National Committee has released a “Resolution Regarding the Republican Party Platform” explaining their decision not to draft a party platform this year. It’s a remarkable document and well worth reading because it is a blank check for Trump to fill in with whatever he wants:
WHEREAS, The RNC enthusiastically supports President Trump and continues to reject the policy positions of the Obama-Biden Administration, as well as those espoused by the Democratic National Committee today; therefore, be it
RESOLVED, That the Republican Party has and will continue to enthusiastically support the President’s America-first agenda.
RESOLVED, That the 2020 Republican National Convention will adjourn without adopting a new platform until the 2024 Republican National Convention.
RESOLVED, That any motion to amend the 2016 Platform or to adopt a new platform, including any motion to suspend the procedures that will allow doing so, will be ruled out of order.
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2020/08/republicans-declare-their-
2020-platform-is-to-support-whatever-trump-wants-to-do.html
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Republicans Declare Their 2020 Platform Is Supporting Whatever Trump Wants.
Less than 24 hours before their national convention begins, the Republican National Committee has released a “Resolution Regarding the Republican Party Platform” explaining their decision not to draft a party platform this year. It’s a remarkable document and well worth reading because it is a blank check for Trump to fill in with whatever he wants:
WHEREAS, The RNC enthusiastically supports President Trump and continues to reject the policy positions of the Obama-Biden Administration, as well as those espoused by the Democratic National Committee today; therefore, be it
RESOLVED, That the Republican Party has and will continue to enthusiastically support the President’s America-first agenda.
RESOLVED, That the 2020 Republican National Convention will adjourn without adopting a new platform until the 2024 Republican National Convention.
RESOLVED, That any motion to amend the 2016 Platform or to adopt a new platform, including any motion to suspend the procedures that will allow doing so, will be ruled out of order.
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2020/08/republicans-declare-their-
2020-platform-is-to-support-whatever-trump-wants-to-do.html
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Good.
We don't want any RINOS or NeoCons trying to take back control.
There were only four "RESOLVED" lines. Why did you leave this line out?
Quote:
RESOLVED, That the 2020 Republican National Convention calls on the media to engage in accurate and unbiased reporting, especially as it relates tothe strong support of the RNCfor President Trump and his Administration; and
And yes, that question is rhetorical.
I actually figured that Slate did so and you were just copying and pasting, but no... You brought up the document yourself, which is only one page long, and chose only one of the six "WHEREAS" lines, and omitted one of the four "RESOLVED" lines.
https://prod-cdn-static.gop.com/media/documents/RESOLUTION_REGARDING_T
HE_REPUBLICAN_PARTY_PLATFORM.pdf
The Media is Democrat run and owned and we all know it.
They hate Trump because he's not afraid to say it on national TV.
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What do Republicans believe? What does it mean to be a Republican?
“Owning the libs and pissing off the media,” shrugs Brendan Buck, a longtime senior congressional aide and imperturbable party veteran if ever there was one. “That’s what we believe in now. There’s really not much more to it.”
With Election Day just a few months away, I was genuinely surprised, in the course of recent conversations with a great many Republicans, at their inability to articulate a purpose, a designation, a raison d'être for their party. Everyone understands that Trump is a big-picture sloganeer—“Build the wall!” “Make America Great Again!”— rather than a policy aficionado. Even so, it’s astonishing how conceptually lifeless the party has become on his watch. There is no blueprint to fix what is understood to be a broken immigration system. There is no grand design to modernize the nation’s infrastructure. There is no creative thinking about a conservative, market-based solution to climate change. There is no meaningful effort to address the cost of housing or childcare or college tuition. None of the erstwhile bold ideas proposed by the likes of Newt Gingrich and Paul Ryan—term limits, a balanced budget amendment, reforms to Social Security and Medicare, anti-poverty programs—have survived as serious proposals. Heck, even after a decade spent trying to repeal the Affordable Care Act, Republicans still have no plan to replace it. (Trust me: If they did, you’d hear about it.)
When I called one party elder, he joked that it’s a good thing Republicans decided not to write a new platform for the 2020 convention—because they have produced nothing novel since the last one was written. Trump and his party have relied more on squabbles than solutions in delivering for their base. Even some of the president’s staunchest supporters concede Buck’s point in this regard: The party is now defined primarily by its appetite for conflict, even when that conflict serves no obvious policy goal.
The result is political anarchy. Traditionally, the run-up to a convention sees a party attempting to tame rival factions and unite around a dynamic vision for the future. Instead, Republicans have spent the summer in a self-immolating downward spiral.
On Capitol Hill, several House Republicans berated a member of their leadership for defending the integrity of the nation’s top infectious disease expert amid a raging pandemic; one of them, days later, accosted a young Democratic congresswoman on the steps of the House, allegedly calling her a “fucking bitch,” while another one, who had proudly refused to wear a face covering around the Capitol, contracted Covid-19. Things weren’t much sunnier on the Senate side, where one Republican touted a new investigation that would “certainly help Donald Trump win reelection” while his GOP colleague concluded that a separate probe exonerated Trump’s campaign of wrongdoing in 2016 when it did precisely the opposite. Meanwhile, as party operatives worked feverishly to win ballot access for Kanye West, a bipolar Black celebrity who could ostensibly draw votes from Joe Biden, emerging victorious from at least three GOP primaries were congressional candidates who have expressed support for QAnon, the psychotic conspiracy theory that accuses Democrats and Hollywood elites of trafficking and cannibalizing young children. Given a chance to disavow this nascent movement, the president pleaded ignorance and, along with other party officials, embraced these candidates, even the self-described “proud Islamophobe” who has fantasized about immigrants dying en masse.
More at https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2020/08/24/republicanmeltdown-t
rump-convention-400039
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MAGA
Fuck Politico.
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Quote:Both the 2016 GOP Platform and Trump promised a replacement for Obamacare, but nothing even got written down on paper, let alone passed into law. Trump baited, hooked, and landed small fry voters with that promise. But it is always "whatever" with him and the GOP. They didn't try to deliver anything to replace Obamacare.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
MAGA
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Don't be fooled. Fascists don't want anything good.
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Don't be fooled. Fascists don't want anything good.
Exactly right. That's why nobody should listen to anything you have to say.
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Jerry Falwell's PoolBoy Confesses!/KellyAnne Quits!/Trump's Sister Secret Recordings!
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lol
Jesus Christ. Kellyanne Conway's husband George worked for Ted's favorite NeoCon backed Lincoln Project?
WTF is this Clown World we're living in 2020?
I bet they hate fucked every night.
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Kellyanne Conway Resigns After Daughter SHAMES Her
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This past weekend, the Republican National Committee caved to white supremacist and other hate groups by adopting a resolution titled Refuting the Legitimacy of the Southern Poverty Law Center to Identify Hate Groups.
The focus of the resolution is that “the SPLC is a radical organization” that harms conservative organizations and voices through our hate group designations.
This attack on our work is an attempt to excuse the Trump administration’s pattern and practice of working with individuals and organizations that malign entire groups of people — immigrants, Muslims and the LGBTQ community — while promoting policies that undermine their very existence. It comes from the same vein as Trump’s claim that there were “very fine people” on both sides of the 2017 Unite the Right rally in Charlottesville.
Simply put, it’s an audacious attempt by Trump and the GOP to paper over the bigotry and racism that has been allowed to infect their policies.
This resolution comes at a moment when Trump will argue at the Republican National Convention that he will combat hate and bigotry, despite welcoming the support of QAnon. It also comes days after the indictment of Stephen Bannon, reminding us that Bannon was once the White House chief strategist and senior counselor and CEO of Trump’s 2016 presidential campaign. And it comes just after our special investigation shined a light on One America News Network’s Jack Posobiec, a reporter at Trump’s favorite network who is aligned with white supremacy and has used his platform to further hate speech and propaganda.
Trump should sever these ties to hate groups and extremists instead of doubling down through this RNC resolution.
The Trump administration has filled its ranks and consulted with alumni and allies from the Federation for American Immigration Reform, an anti-immigrant hate group that has ties to white supremacist groups and eugenicists. They include Julie Kirchner, Kris Kobach, Jeff Sessions and, most notably, Stephen Miller.
The Trump administration has worked with hate groups like the Family Research Council (FRC) to roll back LGBTQ rights. FRC was designated an anti-LGBTQ hate group for decades of demonizing LGBTQ people and spreading harmful pseudoscience about them. Over the years, the organization has published books, reports and brochures that have linked being LGBTQ to pedophilia, claimed that LGBTQ people are dangerous to children and claimed that LGBTQ people are promiscuous and violent.
Anti-Muslim groups have also been welcomed into the administration, including the Center for Security Policy (CSP). Fred Fleitz, a longtime staffer, was appointed the executive secretary and chief of staff of the National Security Council. For decades, CSP has peddled absurd accusations that shadowy Muslim Brotherhood operatives have infiltrated all levels of government.
These extremists are seeking a license to continue spreading their bigotry and will do anything to undermine those — like the SPLC, which tracks and monitors hate groups — who expose their extremist views and oppose their attacks on communities. With this resolution, Trump and members of the GOP have shown the extent to which they will carry their water.
This past weekend, the RNC also released a resolution titled Resolution to Conserve History and Combat Prejudice – Christopher Columbus. It’s a remarkably transparent statement that hate and bigotry stem from Black Lives Matter protesters. The RNC and Trump did not denounce organizations that promote antisemitism, Islamophobia, neo-Nazis, anti-LGBTQ sentiment or racism. It only criticized the SPLC for challenging those groups.
https://www.splcenter.org/news/2020/08/24/rnc-caves-hate-groups-attack
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Why this former Republican says the party must be burned to the ground
www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2020/8/24/21348295/rnc-2020-trump-stua
rt-stevens-it-was-all-a-lie
Of all the “Never Trumpers,” Stuart Stevens might be the most interesting.
Stevens is one of the most successful GOP operatives in the last couple of decades. He helped lead several presidential campaigns (notably George W. Bush’s two campaigns and Mitt Romney’s failed bid in 2012) and multiple gubernatorial and congressional races. He’s as seasoned as they come in Republican politics.
But Stevens stands out among Trump’s conservative critics because of his candor about the deeper rot at the core of the GOP. And in a new tell-all book, called It Was All a Lie: How the Republican Party Became Donald Trump, he offers a grand mea culpa for his own role in paving the way for Trumpism. “It is a strange, melancholy feeling to turn sixty-five, and realize that what you have spent a good portion of your life working for and toward was not only meritless but also destructive,” Stevens writes.
I spoke to Stevens by phone about the story he wanted to tell in this book and why he insists that “Donald Trump did not change the Republican Party as much as he gave the party permission to reveal its true self.” Then we discuss which Republicans, in his words, “bamboozled” him by pretending to care about conservative principles only to toss them out the window the second it was convenient to do so.
Quote:Get a free download of the book from the mirrors at
I say the Republican Party really isn’t a political party. It’s a cartel. Why do cartels exist? Why does OPEC exist? To sell oil. Nobody says, “What is the moral purpose of OPEC?” What does the Republican Party exist for now at the federal level? To beat Democrats —that’s it. There’s nothing else. There is no policy.
Say what you will about Elizabeth Warren, she can at least articulate a theory of government. You can hate it or you can love it, but you can argue with it and she’ll defend it. Can anybody do that on the right with any credibility? I don’t think I’ve seen anything like it. I compare it to the collapse of the Communist Party in the Soviet Union, where the gap between reality and what the party was saying was so massive that it collapsed. I think we’re watching the collapse of the Republican Party. Actually, I know we are.
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Why this former Republican says the party must be burned to the ground
www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2020/8/24/21348295/rnc-2020-trump-stua
rt-stevens-it-was-all-a-lie
Of all the “Never Trumpers,” Stuart Stevens might be the most interesting.
Stevens is one of the most successful GOP operatives in the last couple of decades. He helped lead several presidential campaigns (notably George W. Bush’s two campaigns and Mitt Romney’s failed bid in 2012) and multiple gubernatorial and congressional races. He’s as seasoned as they come in Republican politics.
But Stevens stands out among Trump’s conservative critics because of his candor about the deeper rot at the core of the GOP. And in a new tell-all book, called It Was All a Lie: How the Republican Party Became Donald Trump, he offers a grand mea culpa for his own role in paving the way for Trumpism. “It is a strange, melancholy feeling to turn sixty-five, and realize that what you have spent a good portion of your life working for and toward was not only meritless but also destructive,” Stevens writes.
I spoke to Stevens by phone about the story he wanted to tell in this book and why he insists that “Donald Trump did not change the Republican Party as much as he gave the party permission to reveal its true self.” Then we discuss which Republicans, in his words, “bamboozled” him by pretending to care about conservative principles only to toss them out the window the second it was convenient to do so.Quote:Get a free download of the book from the mirrors at
I say the Republican Party really isn’t a political party. It’s a cartel. Why do cartels exist? Why does OPEC exist? To sell oil. Nobody says, “What is the moral purpose of OPEC?” What does the Republican Party exist for now at the federal level? To beat Democrats —that’s it. There’s nothing else. There is no policy.
Say what you will about Elizabeth Warren, she can at least articulate a theory of government. You can hate it or you can love it, but you can argue with it and she’ll defend it. Can anybody do that on the right with any credibility? I don’t think I’ve seen anything like it. I compare it to the collapse of the Communist Party in the Soviet Union, where the gap between reality and what the party was saying was so massive that it collapsed. I think we’re watching the collapse of the Republican Party. Actually, I know we are.
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What don't you still get about this, Second?
Fuck the old GOP. Fuck Mitt Romney. Fuck GWB. Fuck GHWB. Fuck John Bolton. Fuck John McCain's rotten corpse.
Trump is burning it to the ground. That's why we voted for him and that's why he will win again in November.
The old GOP was almost as bad as the new Democratic Party. And Vox and the rest of you idiots are doing yourself no favors by aligning yourselves with some of the most evil men who were a part of the pre-Trump NeoCon GOP because it suits your agenda.
Fucking John Kasich at the DNC?
Only in Democrat led 2020 Clown World.
I'd suggest your people stop burning cars and garbage trucks to the ground and you set your current party on fire too.
And, incidentally, Ted really needs to stop blowing NeoCons and spreading their Lincoln Project propaganda around.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Quote:Clown world. I wonder where you picked that phrase up?
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
lol
Jesus Christ. Kellyanne Conway's husband George worked for Ted's favorite NeoCon backed Lincoln Project?
WTF is this Clown World we're living in 2020?
I bet they hate fucked every night.
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Originally posted by reaverfan:Quote:Clown world. I wonder where you picked that phrase up?
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
lol
Jesus Christ. Kellyanne Conway's husband George worked for Ted's favorite NeoCon backed Lincoln Project?
WTF is this Clown World we're living in 2020?
I bet they hate fucked every night.
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"My wife got righteously fucked over and over by the pool boy while I sat in the corner and jerked it. I'm a man of God, you know." 
What do you know? An actual cuck.
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Quote:Exactly what did Trump burn down? He didn't raise taxes on the wealthy. He should have burned the wealthy. He didn't deport 24 million illegal aliens who are still here. He should have burned them. He didn't move jobs from China back to America. He should have burned China. He didn't reduce the amount of money insurance companies, doctors and hospitals are charging. He should have burned them. He makes huge promises but does not deliver results, including Covid-19, an example of failing to burn the virus.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
What don't you still get about this, Second?
Fuck the old GOP. Fuck Mitt Romney. Fuck GWB. Fuck GHWB. Fuck John Bolton. Fuck John McCain's rotten corpse.
Trump is burning it to the ground. That's why we voted for him and that's why he will win again in November.
The old GOP was almost as bad as the new Democratic Party. And Vox and the rest of you idiots are doing yourself no favors by aligning yourselves with some of the most evil men who were a part of the pre-Trump NeoCon GOP because it suits your agenda.
Fucking John Kasich at the DNC?
Only in Democrat led 2020 Clown World.
I'd suggest your people stop burning cars and garbage trucks to the ground and you set your current party on fire too.
And, incidentally, Ted really needs to stop blowing NeoCons and spreading their Lincoln Project propaganda around.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Jerry Falwell, JR Tries To Put Affair With The Pool Boy On His Wife Not Himself, But Lover Says, ‘The WHOLE Truth Will Come Out’
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"I grew up in the Bible Belt and with the Falwells personally. They are all a bunch of corrupt racists, whores, whoremongers and liars using silly religion to try to cover it all up. Like all Biblebillies are. I don’t trust any one of them or anyone proclaiming themselves to be Christians. Worst people on the planet."
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DEMOCRATS: this is what you do when you're out of ideas on how to represent Americans.
Quote:
Pelosi Calls Republicans 'Domestic Enemies Of The State'
This is the logical outcome of your racist and sexist exploitation of 'identity politics' that divides the country. Because you absolutely CAN NOT cross your big money donors to make life better for all. THIS is a reprise of Hillary's 'basket of deplorables' in flyover country.
KEEP IT UP DEMOCRATS. Keep writing people off who have real economic distress until you have no one left to claim as your own.
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Quote:She's 100% correct. They have become mask-off fascists.
Originally posted by 1KIKI:
DEMOCRATS: this is what you do when you're out of ideas on how to represent Americans.Quote:
Pelosi Calls Republicans 'Domestic Enemies Of The State'
This is the logical outcome of your racist and sexist exploitation of 'identity politics' that divides the country. Because you absolutely CAN NOT cross your big money donors to make life better for all. THIS is a reprise of Hillary's 'basket of deplorables' in flyover country.
KEEP IT UP DEMOCRATS. Keep writing people off who have real economic distress until you have no one left to claim as your own.
The entire party has pledged their undying support to Trump. They have no platform, whatsoever. They simply worship their "dear leader." Half the speakers spreading lies at the convention are Trump family members. They constantly lie and gaslight their brainwashed sheep. They are evil personified.
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Who PEOPLE LISTEN TO because they and their problems have been so disenfranchised, demeaned, and dismissed ...
... by international corporate interests who are now running the so-called democratic party ...
... that they had literally no where else to go.
ETA: I've been pondering the failure of the Tea Party for a while, because Trump vanquished a whole slate of them during the primaries.
The whole notion that Trump won just because republicans are racist, sexist, xenophobic pigs was disproven by the 2016 primaries. The Tea Party already had that territory covered in every shade of discrimination you can imagine, with 'small government-mania' as an extra. What it never did was address the economic malaise of working people, and of the country, because they too were - and are - beholden to their big-money donors. THAT's what put Trump over the top in the primaries and the general election. It wasn't the culture war issues, it was the bad economy, that nobody else was addressing.
Until democrats get their act together (assuming they ever clue in, that is) and AT LEAST pay better-sounding lip-service to people's economic distresses, the democrats will continue to fail.
In the meantime, that the democrats are STILL staking their viability on identity politics - at least we're not republicans - or TRUMP! - is a big mistake. Many people see NOT being Trump as the problem, not the solution.
Democrats need to focus on the problems that matter to people, and their blame-free white-wash weak-tea "Build Back Better" that doesn't identify the causes of economic distress isn't going to cut it.
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Originally posted by 1KIKI:
Who PEOPLE LISTEN TO because they and their problems have been so disenfranchised, demeaned, and dismissed ...
... by international corporate interests who are now running the so-called democratic party ...
... that they had literally no where else to go.
ETA: I've been pondering the failure of the Tea Party for a while, because Trump vanquished a whole slate of them during the primaries.
The whole notion that Trump won just because republicans are racist, sexist, xenophobic pigs was disproven by the 2016 primaries. The Tea Party already had that territory covered in every shade of discrimination you can imagine, with 'small government-mania' as an extra. What it never did was address the economic malaise of working people, and of the country, because they too were - and are - beholden to their big-money donors. THAT's what put Trump over the top in the primaries and the general election. It wasn't the culture war issues, it was the bad economy, that nobody else was addressing.
Until democrats get their act together (assuming they ever clue in, that is) and AT LEAST pay better-sounding lip-service to people's economic distresses, the democrats will continue to fail.
In the meantime, that the democrats are STILL staking their viability on identity politics - at least we're not republicans - or TRUMP! - is a big mistake. Many people see NOT being Trump as the problem, not the solution.
Democrats need to focus on the problems that matter to people, and their blame-free white-wash weak-tea "Build Back Better" that doesn't identify the causes of economic distress isn't going to cut it.
Jesus, you're dumb. Trump is a GOD to racists. They worship him. His rallies are their church and he is their gospel. And are you seriously claiming the big corps run the D party but not the R?
So dumb...
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Quote:Do you want to know what doing a good job will get the Democratic Party from a grateful America?
Originally posted by 1KIKI:
Who PEOPLE LISTEN TO because they and their problems have been so disenfranchised, demeaned, and dismissed ...
... by international corporate interests who are now running the so-called democratic party ...
... that they had literally no where else to go.
ETA: I've been pondering the failure of the Tea Party for a while, because Trump vanquished a whole slate of them during the primaries.
The whole notion that Trump won just because republicans are racist, sexist, xenophobic pigs was disproven by the 2016 primaries. The Tea Party already had that territory covered in every shade of discrimination you can imagine, with 'small government-mania' as an extra. What it never did was address the economic malaise of working people, and of the country, because they too were - and are - beholden to their big-money donors. THAT's what put Trump over the top in the primaries and the general election. It wasn't the culture war issues, it was the bad economy, that nobody else was addressing.
Until democrats get their act together (assuming they ever clue in, that is) and AT LEAST pay better-sounding lip-service to people's economic distresses, the democrats will continue to fail.
In the meantime, that the democrats are STILL staking their viability on identity politics - at least we're not republicans - or TRUMP! - is a big mistake. Many people see NOT being Trump as the problem, not the solution.
Democrats need to focus on the problems that matter to people, and their blame-free white-wash weak-tea "Build Back Better" that doesn't identify the causes of economic distress isn't going to cut it.
I will show you:
November 8, 1938 Democrats lose 8 seats in the Senate.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1938_United_States_Senate_elections
November 5, 1940 Democrats lose 3 seats in the Senate.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1940_United_States_Senate_elections
November 3, 1942 Democrats lose 8 seats.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1942_United_States_Senate_elections
November 7, 1944 Democrats lose 1 seat. Hitler and Hirohito are almost done.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1944_United_States_Senate_elections
November 5, 1946 Democrats lose 11 seats, lose the Senate, but won WWII.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1946_United_States_Senate_elections
America turned control back over to Herbert Hoover’s Republicans a little bit at a time. That is how grateful America was to FDR’s Democrats for doing a good job.
By December 1, 1950, Nixon will be California’s Senator. He will be Vice President until 1961. Then President. We know what a super job Nixon did and how that story ends, don’t we?
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Quote:I never posted that, which you should have been able to notice.
Originally posted by RF:
And are you seriously claiming the big corps run the D party but not the R?
But TRUMP in particular did a FAR better salesmanship job than either the Tea Party or the Democratic Party. The D's need to get a better shtick.
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Quote:November 5, 1946 Democrats gain 14 seats.
November 8, 1938 Democrats lose 8 seats in the Senate.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1938_United_States_Senate_elections
November 5, 1940 Democrats lose 3 seats in the Senate.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1940_United_States_Senate_elections
November 3, 1942 Democrats lose 8 seats.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1942_United_States_Senate_elections
November 7, 1944 Democrats lose 1 seat. Hitler and Hirohito are almost done.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1944_United_States_Senate_elections
November 5, 1946 Democrats lose 11 seats, lose the Senate, but won WWII.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1946_United_States_Senate_elections
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1948_United_States_Senate_elections
November 2, 1948 Democrats gain 9 seats.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1948_United_States_Senate_elections
November 7, 1950 Democrats lose 5 seats.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1950_United_States_Senate_elections
September 8, 1952, November 4, 1952 Democrats gain 2 seats.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1952_United_States_Senate_elections
September 13, 1954, November 2, 1954 Democrats gain 2 seats.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1954_United_States_Senate_elections
November 6, 1956 Democrats maintain all seats.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1956_United_States_Senate_elections
November 4, 1958 Democrats gain 14 seats.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1958_United_States_Senate_elections
And so on.
Democrats get reliably rewarded in Congress and the Presidency for looking after the well being of ordinary Americans instead of sacrificing them to international business interests.
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The facts are: democrats did nothing for the average worker during the Obama presidency; Hillary and the DNC were all about identity politics as long as you had the right identity; Pelosi as the single most visible representative of democrats in the last 4 years has made the democrats all about being anti-Donald; and the party platform of today is meaningless happy-talk without a commitment to identify and solve the causes of the average American's economic malady.
Democrats can't even pay decent lip service to ordinary Americans and their economic misfortunes.
No amount of Trump-demonizing is going to change the perception that democrats can't even pretend to address our economy that's failed everyday Americans.
So, to get back to what Trump is doing that democrats seem completely blind to - he's got Jerome Powell and Steve Mnuchin on the line to pump up the stock market, because politically, he can't afford a crash. Democrats will be facing the headwind of a good stock market and the normalcy and stability that projects (no matter how bad the fundamentals).
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Quote:What Americans do is switch back and forth between parties because they are bored. The Democrats win WWII, but Americans are so bored with war that 11 Democratic Senators are replaced with Republicans. Americans got bored with the slow recovery from the Depression and they started replacing Democratic Senators with Republicans, who were the very people causing the Depression.
Originally posted by 1KIKI:
Democrats get reliably rewarded in Congress and the Presidency for looking after the well being of ordinary Americans instead of sacrificing them to international business interests.
Americans are NOT judging how well one party was doing when they switch to supporting the other party. Americans just switch because they are tired and the other side promised that this time would be nothing like the last time they were in control. Back and forth control goes between the two parties while most Americans can't even remember the characteristics are different between the two parties. And most stunning, almost no Americans can remember that it takes not 51 Senators, but at least 60 Senators, in some cases 67 Senators, to get anything important passed. The Senate was designed to make sure major legislation does not pass but once in a generation when one party has a super-majority.
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Not sure why you're so stuck on pretending that Congress = the Senate, or that the US government = Congress.
Here's a complete picture.
Until you decide to address the complete picture, with all the dates it covers as well as the the complete legislative branch plus the executive branch, I don't see a point in discussing the "American voter" any further.
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The facts are: democrats did nothing for the average worker during the Obama presidency; Hillary and the DNC were all about identity politics as long as you had the right identity; Pelosi as the single most visible representative of democrats in the last 4 years has made the democrats all about being anti-Donald; and the party platform of today is meaningless happy-talk without a commitment to identify and solve the causes of the average American's economic malady.
Democrats can't even pay decent lip service to ordinary Americans and their economic misfortunes.
No amount of Trump-demonizing is going to change the perception that democrats can't even pretend to address our economy that's failed everyday Americans.
So, to get back to what Trump is doing that democrats seem completely blind to - he's got Jerome Powell and Steve Mnuchin on the line to pump up the stock market, because politically, he can't afford a crash. Democrats will be facing the headwind of a good stock market and the normalcy and stability that projects (no matter how bad the fundamentals).
ETA: I've been pondering the failure of the Tea Party for a while, because Trump vanquished a whole slate of them during the primaries.
The whole notion that Trump won just because republicans are racist, sexist, xenophobic pigs was disproven by the 2016 primaries. The Tea Party already had that territory covered in every shade of discrimination you can imagine, with 'small government-mania' as an extra. What it never did was address the economic malaise of working people, and of the country, because they too were - and are - beholden to their big-money donors. THAT's what put Trump over the top in the primaries and the general election. It wasn't the culture war issues, it was the bad economy, that nobody else was addressing.
Until democrats get their act together (assuming they ever clue in, that is) and AT LEAST pay better-sounding lip-service to people's economic distresses, the democrats will continue to fail.
In the meantime, that the democrats are STILL staking their viability on identity politics - at least we're not republicans - or TRUMP! - is a big mistake. Many people see NOT being Trump as the problem, not the solution.
Democrats need to focus on the problems that matter to people, and their blame-free white-wash weak-tea "Build Back Better" that doesn't identify the causes of economic distress isn't going to cut it.
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Don't watch this video kiki. It shows you to be a moron. Wow, you guys just make shit up, facts be dammed.
T
Stupid people don't know they're stupid, and they certainly don't realize how obvious it is to others.
Steve Rattner: U.S. Economy Is Still In Shambles
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Quote:Your "Complete" picture is not complete. You forgot to include the voters, where about 67% of them live in a demon-haunted world. That 2/3rds of voters are randomly jerking around their steering of the direction the country goes, first jerking the wheel to the left, than back to the right, over-and-over. By the way, there is a book about that called
Originally posted by 1KIKI:
Not sure why you're so stuck on pretending that Congress = the Senate, or that the US government = Congress.
Here's a complete picture.
Until you decide to address the complete picture, with all the dates it covers as well as the the complete legislative branch plus the executive branch, I don't see a point in discussing the "American voter" any further.
Fantasyland: How America Went Haywire – A 500 Year History
By my reckoning, the more or less solidly reality-based are a minority, maybe a third of us but almost certainly fewer than half. Only a third of us, for instance, believe with some certainty that CO2 emissions from cars and factories are the main cause of Earth’s warming. Only a third are sure the tale of creation in Genesis is not a literal, factual account. Only a third strongly disbelieve in telepathy and ghosts.
Two-thirds of Americans believe that “angels and demons are active in the world.” At least half are absolutely certain Heaven exists, ruled over by a personal God—not some vague force or universal spirit but a guy. More than a third of us believe not only that global warming is no big deal but that it’s a hoax perpetrated by a conspiracy of scientists, government, and journalists.
A third believe that our earliest ancestors were humans just like humans today; that the government has, in league with the pharmaceutical industry, hidden evidence of “natural” cancer cures; that extraterrestrials have recently visited (or now reside on) Earth.
A quarter believe vaccines cause autism and that Donald Trump won the popular vote in the 2016 general election. A quarter believe that our previous president was (or is?) the Antichrist. A quarter believe in witches. Remarkably, no more than one in five Americans believe the Bible consists mainly of legends and fables—around the same number who believe that “the media or the government adds secret mind-controlling technology to television broadcast signals” and that U.S. officials were complicit in the 9/11 attacks.
When I say that a third believe X or a quarter believe Y, it’s important to understand that those are different thirds and quarters of the U.S. population. Various fantasy constituencies overlap and feed each other—for instance, belief in extraterrestrial visitation and abduction can lead to belief in vast government cover-ups, which can lead to belief in still more wide-ranging plots and cabals, which can jibe with a belief in an impending Armageddon involving Jesus. Fantasyland operates like the European Union, a collection of disparate domains of various sizes overlaid with a Schengen Area that allows citizens of any of the dozens of lands to travel freely among the others, the way Hungarians and Maltese can visit France or Iceland at will.
Why are we like this?
That’s what this book will explore. The short answer is because we’re Americans, because being American means we can believe any damn thing we want, that our beliefs are equal or superior to anyone else’s, experts be damned. Once people commit to that approach, the world turns inside out, and no cause-and-effect connection is fixed. The credible becomes incredible and the incredible credible.
– from Fantasyland: How America Went Haywire
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Quote:Your argument has already been picked apart in a book called Evil Geniuses The Unmaking of America: A Recent History by Kurt Andersen
Originally posted by 1KIKI:
The facts are: democrats did nothing for the average worker during the Obama presidency; Hillary and the DNC were all about identity politics as long as you had the right identity; Pelosi as the single most visible representative of democrats in the last 4 years has made the democrats all about being anti-Donald; and the party platform of today is meaningless happy-talk without a commitment to identify and solve the causes of the average American's economic malady.
Democrats can't even pay decent lip service to ordinary Americans and their economic misfortunes.
No amount of Trump-demonizing is going to change the perception that democrats can't even pretend to address our economy that's failed everyday Americans.
So, to get back to what Trump is doing that democrats seem completely blind to - he's got Jerome Powell and Steve Mnuchin on the line to pump up the stock market, because politically, he can't afford a crash. Democrats will be facing the headwind of a good stock market and the normalcy and stability that projects (no matter how bad the fundamentals).
ETA: I've been pondering the failure of the Tea Party for a while, because Trump vanquished a whole slate of them during the primaries.
The whole notion that Trump won just because republicans are racist, sexist, xenophobic pigs was disproven by the 2016 primaries. The Tea Party already had that territory covered in every shade of discrimination you can imagine, with 'small government-mania' as an extra. What it never did was address the economic malaise of working people, and of the country, because they too were - and are - beholden to their big-money donors. THAT's what put Trump over the top in the primaries and the general election. It wasn't the culture war issues, it was the bad economy, that nobody else was addressing.
Until democrats get their act together (assuming they ever clue in, that is) and AT LEAST pay better-sounding lip-service to people's economic distresses, the democrats will continue to fail.
In the meantime, that the democrats are STILL staking their viability on identity politics - at least we're not republicans - or TRUMP! - is a big mistake. Many people see NOT being Trump as the problem, not the solution.
Democrats need to focus on the problems that matter to people, and their blame-free white-wash weak-tea "Build Back Better" that doesn't identify the causes of economic distress isn't going to cut it.
Andersen sets out to narrate a complex, many-layered history of how a band of rich people, corporate executives and political right-wingers, aided and abetted by gullible “useful idiots” in the media and the political left, transformed the nation into a casino where only they ever win.
Book review at
www.nytimes.com/2020/08/11/books/review/kurt-andersen-evil-geniuses.ht
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Originally posted by 1KIKI:Quote:November 5, 1946 Democrats gain 14 seats.
November 8, 1938 Democrats lose 8 seats in the Senate.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1938_United_States_Senate_elections
November 5, 1940 Democrats lose 3 seats in the Senate.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1940_United_States_Senate_elections
November 3, 1942 Democrats lose 8 seats.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1942_United_States_Senate_elections
November 7, 1944 Democrats lose 1 seat. Hitler and Hirohito are almost done.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1944_United_States_Senate_elections
November 5, 1946 Democrats lose 11 seats, lose the Senate, but won WWII.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1946_United_States_Senate_elections
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1948_United_States_Senate_elections
November 2, 1948 Democrats gain 9 seats.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1948_United_States_Senate_elections
November 7, 1950 Democrats lose 5 seats.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1950_United_States_Senate_elections
September 8, 1952, November 4, 1952 Democrats gain 2 seats.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1952_United_States_Senate_elections
September 13, 1954, November 2, 1954 Democrats gain 2 seats.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1954_United_States_Senate_elections
November 6, 1956 Democrats maintain all seats.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1956_United_States_Senate_elections
November 4, 1958 Democrats gain 14 seats.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1958_United_States_Senate_elections]
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Quote:You didn't notice that 1kiki botched this:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Do Right, Be Right. :)
November 5, 1946 Democrats gain 14 seats.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1948_United_States_Senate_elections
Wrong numbers, wrong year, wrong URL. But the bigger point you also missed: Americans randomly go left and right without regard for what is happening in the real world. America is flipping a coin to decide D vs R. It shows plainly in history, but you don't believe that. Tough shit for you, you dumb motherfucker living on $4,500 per year. Did you notice, in your gif, that Nelson from the Simpsons wears ragged clothes and his mother is no better than a whore? Why then is 6ix using Nelson as an avatar? Nelson is a loser: "My mom left my dad after she got hooked on cough drops. At the end her breath was so fresh, she wasn't really my mother anymore." - Nelson Muntz, The Simpsons 08x06: A Milhouse Divided
https://quotational.com/author/nelson-muntz/
6ix, you have described your sad life. You are Nelson Muntz. Ha-Ha!
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Quote:Yep, never said otherwise. But the stock market is sky high!
Steve Rattner: U.S. Economy Is Still In Shambles
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Originally posted by second:
You didn't notice that 1kiki botched this:
November 5, 1946 Democrats gain 14 seats.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1948_United_States_Senate_elections
Wrong numbers, wrong year, wrong URL.
I took Kiki on faith. Furthermore, it doesn't matter, because it gets the point across. Yanno, the one that you, yourself brought up in the very next sentence here:
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But the bigger point you also missed: Americans randomly go left and right without regard for what is happening in the real world. America is flipping a coin to decide D vs R.
No shit they do. THAT'S THE POINT THAT YOU MISSED IN THE POST THAT KIKI TROLLED YOU ON HERE:
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Do you want to know what doing a good job will get the Democratic Party from a grateful America?
I will show you:
November 8, 1938 Democrats lose 8 seats in the Senate.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1938_United_States_Senate_elections
November 5, 1940 Democrats lose 3 seats in the Senate.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1940_United_States_Senate_elections
November 3, 1942 Democrats lose 8 seats.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1942_United_States_Senate_elections
November 7, 1944 Democrats lose 1 seat. Hitler and Hirohito are almost done.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1944_United_States_Senate_elections
November 5, 1946 Democrats lose 11 seats, lose the Senate, but won WWII.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1946_United_States_Senate_elections
America turned control back over to Herbert Hoover’s Republicans a little bit at a time. That is how grateful America was to FDR’s Democrats for doing a good job.
By December 1, 1950, Nixon will be California’s Senator. He will be Vice President until 1961. Then President. We know what a super job Nixon did and how that story ends, don’t we?
You're just pissed off that Kiki dismantled your point in one easy reply, and doubly pissed that I chimed in and laughed about it.
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It shows plainly in history, but you don't believe that.
And you continue to be wrong... Nothing new here.
Kiki pointed out to you the point that you are NOW trying to make with your backpedaling. You think everybody is stupid enough to buy your bullshit? You're far out of your league son.
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Tough shit for you, you dumb motherfucker living on $4,500 per year.
I can easily live off of $4,500, quite comfortably. I make more than that, and save ALL of it.
Sure sounds REAL dumb to me.
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Did you notice, in your gif, that Nelson from the Simpsons wears ragged clothes and his mother is no better than a whore? Why then is 6ix using Nelson as an avatar?
Because it's a meme. And you're a humorless, hateful Leftist NPC that doesn't understand memes.
You're losing the narrative. And it's very funny watching you become unhinged as we get closer to the election.
Tick Tock, Motherfucker ;)
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Oh look...
Second changed his reply.
But I got to it first. 
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Originally posted by 1KIKI:
The facts are: democrats did nothing for the average worker during the Obama presidency; Hillary and the DNC were all about identity politics as long as you had the right identity; Pelosi as the single most visible representative of democrats in the last 4 years has made the democrats all about being anti-Donald; and the party platform of today is meaningless happy-talk without a commitment to identify and solve the causes of the average American's economic malady.
Democrats can't even pay decent lip service to ordinary Americans and their economic misfortunes.
No amount of Trump-demonizing is going to change the perception that democrats can't even pretend to address our economy that's failed everyday Americans.
Until democrats get their act together (assuming they ever clue in, that is) and AT LEAST pay better-sounding lip-service to people's economic distresses, the democrats will continue to fail.
Quote:And now for extensive actual quotes from the author, where instead of 'picking apart' my argument, he actually AGREES with me:
Originally posted by second:
Your argument has already been picked apart in a book called Evil Geniuses The Unmaking of America: A Recent History by Kurt Andersen.
Andersen sets out to narrate a complex, many-layered history of how a band of rich people, corporate executives and political right-wingers, aided and abetted by gullible “useful idiots” in the media and the political left, transformed the nation into a casino where only they ever win.
Book review at
www.nytimes.com/2020/08/11/books/review/kurt-andersen-evil-geniuses.ht
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Quote:So far, it looks like Andersen agrees with me.
For those past two decades, I’d prospered and thrived in the new political economy. And unharmed by automation or globalization or the new social contract, I’d effectively ignored the fact that the majority of my fellow Americans weren’t prospering or thriving.
In 40 years ... Economic inequality has reverted to the levels of a century ago and earlier, and so has economic insecurity, while economic immobility is almost certainly worse than it’s ever been.
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/08/i-was-useful-idiot-c
apitalism/615031/
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The antiwar movement and counterculture, coming right after the successful civil-rights movement, had generated intense mutual contempt between the two main kinds of white Democrats, members of the working class and the expanding so-called New Class. ... Beginning right then, the suspicion and contempt between less-educated white people and the liberal white bourgeoisie became what the American class struggle was most visibly and consciously about. And it would define our politics as the economy was reshaped to do better than ever for yuppies and worse and worse for the proles ... Thus like most Democratic politicians at the same time, media people became enablers of the national change in perspective from left to right concerning economics ... From New Deal to New Democrats ... from then on it was much harder for labor unions to influence the Democrats’ choice of nominee—which in turn enabled Hart to help win the 1972 nomination for the hippie-loving, antiwar, women’s-lib, “acid, amnesty, abortion” candidate despised by so many of the blue-collar union members ... Hart, on the other hand, was a cool young Yalie whose 1974 Senate campaign stump speech was actually called “The End of the New Deal.” ... The new approach propagated rapidly. Soon almost every up-and-coming national Democratic politician was a New Democrat: Hart, Paul Tsongas, Jerry Brown, Bill Bradley, Al Gore, Bob Kerrey, Bill Clinton—all first elected senator or governor between 1974 and 1984 when they were in their 30s, all about to become serious presidential candidates ... https://www.theNOTIFY: N | REPLY | REPLY WITH QUOTE | PERMALINK | TOP | HOME
Quote:One simple example where Democrats and Republicans are on opposite sides about "the working class": the minimum wage. Biden and Democrats are for $15/hour and Trump is against. How does Trump sell being against raising the minimum? He says the opposite of what he means: he claims to be for it. It has been a year and the Democrats in the House have passed bill after bill to raise the minimum wage but the GOP controlled Senate won't. Between Trump being extra dishonest and Americans being extra uninterested, the minimum wage will not be going to $15/hour during the next 4 years. Even if Biden was elected, the minimum wage won't be going to $15 because the GOP, not the Democrats, will kill it in the Senate as long as there are 34 GOP Senators. There are no magic words that Democrats can say that will make voters take an interest in raising the minimum wage. The GOP won't be changing its mind until voters take a sustained interest, which voters won't because they just can't remember to do it. So minimum wage stays where the GOP wants it to be. The same is true on every issue, especially those that are far more complicated than changing one number from $7.25 to the number $15 per hour.
Originally posted by 1KIKI:
Everything Andersen writes agrees with me - liberal, 'new', and neo-liberal Democrats were complicit in the selling out of the working class.
They still are.
BTW What I posted a couple of months ago still is true - Trump is a FAR better salesman than democrats give him credit for. He does a FAR better job ferreting out what people want to hear. Democrats who are harping, hoping, that being anti-Trump is the ticket to political success are doomed.
Democrats need a better shtick than the one they've gotten now, and a better shtick than Trump.
https://web.archive.org/web/20191005011721/https://www.bloomberg.com/n
ews/articles/2019-06-21/trump-says-he-s-weighing-democrats-plan-for-15-minimum-wage
See "The Unraveling of America", the next entry in this thread, for why American voters can't remember to support $15 per hour. Or maybe voters do remember and keep the minimum wage at $7.25, considering that to raise it would be a cost for them which they don't feel like paying.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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The Unraveling of America
The American cult of the individual denies not just community but the very idea of society. No one owes anything to anyone. All must be prepared to fight for everything: education, shelter, food, medical care. What every prosperous and successful democracy deems to be fundamental rights — universal health care, equal access to quality public education, a social safety net for the weak, elderly, and infirm — America dismisses as socialist indulgences, as if so many signs of weakness.
www.rollingstone.com/politics/political-commentary/covid-19-end-of-ame
rican-era-wade-davis-1038206/
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Quote:The minimum wage is such a small part of how the US economy is failing Americans - well, failing in general - that it's hardly an economic issue at this point. It's more of a cultural one.
One simple example where Democrats and Republicans are on opposite sides about "the working class": the minimum wage.
Democrats are not going to fix the economy. They have absolutely no intention of doing that.
And if democrats don't do any different, how are they any better?
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Quote:And that includes the intellectual democratic snobs on the coasts, who abhor the idea of unions, of giving up their tokens of privilege, and of considering the 'basket of deplorables' in 'flyover country' as equals in common cause worth just as much social investment.
The American cult of the individual denies not just community but the very idea of society.
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Quote:Stop yourself for just a second, 1kiki. Please go look intensely at just the minimum wage. Come up with your own theory of why it has been stuck at one number since July 24, 2009. Your theory needs to explain who wanted the number stuck. There will be reasons why the people who stuck it to the working class want it stuck. Are the reasons true?
Originally posted by 1KIKI:Quote:The minimum wage is such a small part of how the US economy is failing Americans - well, failing in general - that it's hardly an economic issue at this point. It's more of a cultural one.
One simple example where Democrats and Republicans are on opposite sides about "the working class": the minimum wage.
Democrats are not going to fix the economy. They have absolutely no intention of doing that.
And if democrats don't do any different, how are they any better?
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Anybody notice how Second pretends constantly to care about the minimum wage, yet spends every opportunity he can to try to shame somebody who makes minimum wage?
More hypocrisy from our resident Dissociative ID.
Keep getting those Virtue points, Machiavelli.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Quote:Shut up, 6ix. Every job you ever had, you walked away from or they fired you. In the real world, if you are even remotely like you are here, I can see why it happens to you, over and over.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Anybody notice how Second pretends constantly to care about the minimum wage, yet spends every opportunity he can to try to shame somebody who makes minimum wage?
More hypocrisy from our resident Dissociative ID.
Keep getting those Virtue points, Machiavelli.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Layoffs aren't firing, dipshit.
But keep pretending you give a shit about anybody but yourself. We all know that you don't.
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This guy is a mental invalid who gets $4500 a year in welfare handed to him. ^ Heed his wisdom!
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Quote:Layoffs are firings. I was a construction engineer. When a project ended, they laid off workers, but kept the best ones for the next project. The slowest, the dumbest, the obnoxious workers got laid off, i.e., fired. 6ix, you fit in Group Obnoxious. By the way, it was easy for me to sort workers into groups because I knew everybody, knew what they did, and how well they did it. I had no mercy for poor white trash.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Layoffs aren't firing, dipshit.
But keep pretending you give a shit about anybody but yourself. We all know that you don't.
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You need to employ your alternate personality to pile on, huh?
Why don't you worry about you like you always do, Second, and stop pretending like you give a shit at all about the working class.
We know that everything you say and everything you do is bullshit, and we certainly don't need a self-fellating head case like you speaking for any of us.
Have a nice day.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Quote:To quote 1kiki: "The minimum wage is such a small part of how the US economy is failing Americans - well, failing in general - that it's hardly an economic issue at this point. It's more of a cultural one. Democrats are not going to fix the economy. They have absolutely no intention of doing that." I wanted 1kiki to admit, but hasn't, that the minimum wage is small because the GOP blocks Democrats from raising it. It is such a simple piece of legislation that it is easy to understand how the GOP blocks it and will continue to block it until there are fewer than 34 GOP Senators.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
You need to employ your alternate personality to pile on, huh?
Why don't you worry about you like you always do, Second, and stop pretending like you give a shit at all about the working class.
We know that everything you say and everything you do is bullshit, and we certainly don't need a self-fellating head case like you speaking for any of us.
Payday loans are harder to understand than minimum wages, but Democrats are all on one side and Republicans are all on the other. The Democrats want to control payday loans with the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau, but the GOP is sabotaging CFPB. A case came to my attention: $5,000 loan with $287 per week interest payments. That's 300% interest rate. I haven't seen the contract, but Hobson thinks (not absolutely sure) she has been paying since 2018. She was upset to be told that in two years she would have paid $30,000 in interest on a $5,000 loan. We made a deal where I give her $5,000 to pay off the loan and she pays me $125 per week for 40 weeks starting this week.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consumer_Financial_Protection_Bureau
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What you don't seem to realize is that you keep talking about my life as if I should be bitching about it, and I'm not the one bitching about anything.
I don't make $4,500 per year. I easily live off of $4,500 per year and either bank the rest or put it into my house.
I'm fine, dude.
Worry about your money, like we know you do everyday because you don't have any and you're in debt up to your eyeballs.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Quote:You tell me - who was president in 2009? 2010? 2011? 2012? 2013? 2014? 2015? 2016?
Stop yourself for just a second, 1kiki. Please go look intensely at just the minimum wage. Come up with your own theory of why it has been stuck at one number since July 24, 2009.
MEANWHILE - why did the wages decline during Obama's presidency?
https://www.epi.org/nominal-wage-tracker/
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Originally posted by 1KIKI:Quote:You tell me - who was president in 2009? 2010? 2011? 2012? 2013? 2014? 2015? 2016?
Stop yourself for just a second, 1kiki. Please go look intensely at just the minimum wage. Come up with your own theory of why it has been stuck at one number since July 24, 2009.
MEANWHILE - why did the wages decline during Obama's presidency?
https://www.epi.org/nominal-wage-tracker/
Queue Second bitching about Republicans in Congress.
Because he uses the same cop out every time he's asked about this.
And honestly, if he gives a single shit about this issue (which he doesn't) it makes me wonder why he even cares about Biden being elected since it's not going to change the minimum wage at all and in the alternate timeline where Biden wins the minimum wage isn't going to change in any meaningful way anyhow and he'd just use the same excuse for the next 4 to 8 years.
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