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Stupid people don't know they're stupid, and they certainly don't realize how obvious it is to others.
Applebaum, Will And Frum On Watching Trump Change The Rules
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Quote:Trump losing won't make the democrats fit to govern, either.
Originally posted by second:
Trump winning won't make the GOP competent to govern.
And if democrats don't do any different, how are they any better?
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Quote:1kiki, your problem is you don't like a two-party system. Neither do I, but so long as it is winner-takes-all at election times, your choice is Democrat, Republican, or Nothing. Nothing means don't vote or vote for a third party that will seldom to never elect anybody to a legislature. Then the next problem is the quality and performance of the elected legislature or officials. Like winner-takes-all, a bad system if there ever was one, there is no fast way to remove incompetent/lazy/dishonest/criminal/mentally-ill politicians before the next election. That, too, needs fixing, but would require rewriting the Constitutions of every state and the nation. I assume the writers of the Constitutions in the various states did not like the idea of politicians being fired from the job on very short notice. Instead, America went to a system of assassinating Presidents. Four have been murdered. Others have been shot but survived. Still others were lucky enough to have the bullets miss them.
Originally posted by 1KIKI:Quote:Trump losing won't make the democrats fit to govern, either.
Originally posted by second:
Trump winning won't make the GOP competent to govern.
And if democrats don't do any different, how are they any better?
Two-party system
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Two-party_system
List of presidents of the United States who died in office
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_presidents_of_the_United_States_
who_died_in_office
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Quote:
Originally posted by second:Quote:1kiki, your problem is you don't like a two-party system. Neither do I, but so long as it is winner-takes-all at election times, your choice is Democrat, Republican, or Nothing. Nothing means don't vote or vote for a third party that will seldom to never elect anybody to a legislature. Then the next problem is the quality and performance of the elected legislature or officials. Like winner-takes-all, a bad system if there ever was one, there is no fast way to remove incompetent/lazy/dishonest/criminal/mentally-ill politicians before the next election. That, too, needs fixing, but would require rewriting the Constitutions of every state and the nation. I assume the writers of the Constitutions in the various states did not like the idea of politicians being fired from the job on very short notice. Instead, America went to a system of assassinating Presidents. Four have been murdered. Others have been shot but survived. Still others were lucky enough to have the bullets miss them.
Originally posted by 1KIKI:Quote:Trump losing won't make the democrats fit to govern, either.
Originally posted by second:
Trump winning won't make the GOP competent to govern.
And if democrats don't do any different, how are they any better?
Two-party system
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Two-party_system
List of presidents of the United States who died in office
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_presidents_of_the_United_States_
who_died_in_office
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
Uh oh.
Second knows his guy is going to lose.
That's why he's bringing up assassination again.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Quote:Three times Presidents have been impeached. Three times those Presidents should have been removed from office, but the Senate failed. The Constitutional system for handling criminal/mentally-ill/incompetent Presidents was badly designed. The system can't even solve a simple arithmetic problem where a President underpays on his tax returns. See Richard Nixon or Donald Trump tax returns.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Uh oh.
Second knows his guy is going to lose.
That's why he's bringing up assassination again.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
Trump's tax schemes are eerily similar to Nixon's, except for a few key differences
www.businessinsider.com/trumps-tax-schemes-similar-to-nixons-few-diffe
rences-2018-10
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Yeah. Sure. Whatever.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Quote:"Whatever" is correct. Trump has avoided paying $billions in back taxes for years by going to court. The tax courts in America are completely broken in favor of the wealthy, but maybe not the civil courts:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Yeah. Sure. Whatever.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
Manhattan Supreme Court Justice Verna Saunders reasoned that the high court's 7-2 decision in July rejecting broad claims of presidential immunity—in a case over a Manhattan grand jury subpoena seeking financial records—applied not only to criminal proceedings but also to author E. Jean Carroll's civil complaint against President Donald Trump.
By Jane Wester | August 07, 2020 at 01:46 PM
www.law.com/newyorklawjournal/2020/08/07/supreme-court-ruling-on-trump
s-tax-returns-means-he-must-face-ny-defamation-suit-judge-rules/
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Yeah. Sure. Whatever.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Quote:I wonder what democrats intend to do about it.
In 1985, the C(ost of Thriving Index) stood at 30 — the median male worker needed thirty weeks of income to afford a house, a car, health care, and education. By 2018, the COTI had increased to 53—a full-time job was insufficient to afford these items, let alone the others that a family needs. A generation ago, the worker could be confident in his ability to provide his family not only with the basics of food, clothing, and shelter, but also with the middle-class essentials of a house, a car, health care, and education. Now he cannot.
https://americanaffairsjournal.org/2020/02/the-cost-of-thriving/
And if democrats don't do any different, how are they any better?
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Quote:Your answer is in the Democratic Party platform:
Originally posted by 1KIKI:Quote:I wonder what democrats intend to do about it.
In 1985, the C(ost of Thriving Index) stood at 30 — the median male worker needed thirty weeks of income to afford a house, a car, health care, and education. By 2018, the COTI had increased to 53—a full-time job was insufficient to afford these items, let alone the others that a family needs. A generation ago, the worker could be confident in his ability to provide his family not only with the basics of food, clothing, and shelter, but also with the middle-class essentials of a house, a car, health care, and education. Now he cannot.
https://americanaffairsjournal.org/2020/02/the-cost-of-thriving/
And if democrats don't do any different, how are they any better?
https://democrats.org/where-we-stand/party-platform/raise-incomes-and-
restore-economic-security-for-the-middle-class/
No item in the platform will become law because the Republicans oppose all of it, every single line, while the Democrats won't have 67 Senators to override the Republican objections. Because of the rules, 51 or 52 or 53 or 54 or 55 or 56 or 57 or 58 or 59 or more like-minded Democratic Senators are insufficient to get laws passed. We can't change this system inherited from the Founding Fathers. We can't avoid gridlock in the Senate unless one side or the other has 67 Senators to get large projects passed into laws.
www.senate.gov/reference/glossary_term/override_of_a_veto.htm
www.senate.gov/artandhistory/history/common/briefing/Filibuster_Clotur
e.htm
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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