' The truth - We will go extinct, very soon.'
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No you twit. I'm saying Bush's crashed economy started the downturn in CO2 emissions. But if you want to give Obama credit for not restoring the economy, I'm with you.
OR --- you can make your case. What did Obama DO - cite specific actions, with links - that caused CO2 emissions to drop in his first year?
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OR --- you can make your case. What did Obama DO - cite specific actions, with links - that caused CO2 emissions to drop in his first year?
"... in his first year..."
Who said "first year?" You keep stepping it, Gladys. Why didn't you say, "show what he did in his first hour in office?"And you are also saying we should credit Bush with reducing greenhouse emissions... because he crashed the economy? Ok...
Obama cleans it up:
https://www.business-humanrights.org/en/usa-obama-announces-major-clim
ate-change-plan-to-reduce-greenhouse-gas-emissions
4 August 2015
Environmental Protection Agency announcement
Author: US Environmental Protection Agency
"Clean Power Plan for Existing Power Plants"
…On August 3, 2015, President Obama and EPA announced the Clean Power Plan – a historic and important step in reducing carbon pollution from power plants that takes real action on climate change. Shaped by years of unprecedented outreach and public engagement, the final Clean Power Plan is fair, flexible and designed to strengthen the fast-growing trend toward cleaner and lower-polluting American energy. With strong but achievable standards for power plants, and customized goals for states to cut the carbon pollution that is driving climate change, the Clean Power Plan provides national consistency, accountability and a level playing field while reflecting each state’s energy mix. It also shows the world that the United States is committed to leading global efforts to address climate change...
Then Trump's EPA f*cks it up:
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/09/climate/clean-power-plan.html
WASHINGTON — The Environmental Protection Agency announced on Tuesday that Scott Pruitt, the chief of the agency, had signed a measure to repeal President Barack Obama’s signature policy to curb greenhouse gas emissions from power plants, setting up a bitter fight over the future of America’s efforts to tackle global warming.
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Once again, let's see the charts for China's pollution.
90% of the shit that you buy that you don't need comes from there.
You shouldn't allow yourselves to sleep better at night knowing that the pollution from all that crap you bought is half a world away.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Hey there GEEBERS!
How about a small lesson in chart reading and history? But first let me point out something helpful abut the chart. You don't need to draw horizontal lines to the left-hand axis and try to visually interpolate numbers to see what the CO2 emissions were for any year-bar. Nope. The emissions are very clearly given on top of each bar.
Clinton was president during the years 1993 through 2000 (out of office in Jan 2001). During that time CO2 emissions rose from 6537 to 7231. Calculating that out and rounding, that was an 11% rise in CO2 emissions. GREAT JOB BILL!!! Way to show how democrats protect the environment! Right?
dubya was president during the years 2001 through 2008 (out of office in Jan 2009). During that time CO2 emissions rose from 7112 to 7152. Calculating that out and rounding, that was a 1% rise in CO2 emissions. BAD BUSH!!! You destroyed the planet! Like all republicans! Right?
Then in 2009 CO2 emissions fell in the very first year of the Obama presidency to 6706. OBVIOUSLY if you're going to give him credit for that CO2 emissions drop - and as you've already asserted - he must have done SOMETHING extraordinarily effective in his VERY FIRST YEAR.
What was it? What did OBAMA do that first year that caused that drop?
Be specific, with links.
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How humans derailed the Earth's climate in just 160 years
https://m.phys.org/news/2019-03-humans-derailed-earth-climate-injust.h
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Meteorologist Nick Humphrey: "...we as a species are on the brink of implosion from our inability to deal with the extreme changes underway. Not that we could deal with them anyways. Physical laws on the books for 14 billion years are commanding authority..."
https://www.patreon.com/posts/25635061
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Sharp rise in Arctic temperatures now inevitable – UN
Temperatures likely to rise by 3-5C above pre-industrial levels even if Paris goals met
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2019/mar/13/arctic-temperature
-rises-must-be-urgently-tackled-warns-un
We hit 5C, it's over. Mass extinction, uninhabitable planet.
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How Climate Change Is Fuelling the U.S. Border Crisis
In the western highlands of Guatemala, the question is no longer whether someone will leave but when.
https://www.newyorker.com/news/dispatch/how-climate-change-is-fuelling
-the-us-border-crisis?utm_campaign=aud-dev&utm_source=nl&utm_brand=tny&utm_mailing=TNY_Daily_040319&utm_medium=email&bxid=5bdf44f92a077c67cd7cb6b2&user_id=55358054&esrc=&utm_term=TNY_Daily
“In the higher part of town, there have been more frosts than there used to be, and they kill an entire harvest in one fell swoop,” he said. “In the lower part of Climentoro, there’s been much less rain and new sorts of pests.” He added, “Farmers have been abandoning their land.”
In a sixteen-hundred-page analysis, government scientists described wildfires in California, the collapse of infrastructure in the South, crop shortages in the Midwest, and catastrophic flooding. The President publicly dismissed the findings. “As to whether or not it’s man-made and whether or not the effects that you’re talking about are there, I don’t see it,” he said. There was a deeper layer of denial in this, since overlooking these effects meant turning a blind eye to one of the major forces driving migration to the border. “There are always a lot of reasons why people migrate,” Yarsinio Palacios, an expert on forestry in Guatemala, told me. “Maybe a family member is sick. Maybe they are trying to make up for losses from the previous year. But in every situation, it has something to do with climate change.
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https://www.salon.com/2019/04/02/another-whale-is-dead-poisoned-by-pla
stic-and-scientists-predict-there-will-be-many-more/
Another whale is dead, poisoned by 48 lbs of plastic, and scientists fear there will be many more
Disposable dishes, shopping bags, fishing nets, a laundry detergent package with its barcode still detectable and a corrugated tube are just a few of the many items that made up the 48 pounds of plastic that killed a sperm whale in the Mediterranean Sea last Thursday. The carcass washed ashore in Porto Cervo, on the Italian island of Sardinia. The young female sperm whale was also carrying a fetus.
"She was pregnant and had almost certainly aborted before she beached," Luca Bittau, president of the SeaMe group, told CNN. "The fetus was in an advanced state of (de)composition."
If this sounds like a familiar story, it is.
In March, a whale was found dead on a Philippine beach with 88 pounds of plastic in its body. Last November, a dead sperm whale found on Kapota Island, in southeast Sulawesi, Indonesia, with 88 pounds of plastic in its stomach, which included 25 plastic bags, 115 plastic cups and two flip-flop sandals. Another sperm whale died in Spain after being unable to digest more than 60 pounds of plastic trash in April 2018. The world’s cetaceans are choking and dying on plastic.
More than 8.8 million tons of plastic end up in the oceans each year, according to the World Wildlife.
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Meat And Agriculture Are Worse For The Climate Than Power Generation, Steven Chu Says
https://www.forbes.com/sites/jeffmcmahon/2019/04/04/meat-and-agricultu
re-are-worse-for-the-climate-than-dirty-energy-steven-chu-says/#352bfa6a11f9
"If cattle and dairy cows were a country, they would have more greenhouse gas emissions than the entire EU 28," said Chu, who recently assumed the presidency of the American Association for the Advancement of Science.
"Just something to think about.”
Chu lumped the greenhouse gas emissions from meat and dairy with other agricultural practices, such as fertilizer, and land-use changes, such as deforestation and soil disruption. He weighted the resulting greenhouse gases for lifetime and potency, showing that emissions from agriculture are a bigger problem than emissions from energy.
"Let me say it again: agriculture and land-use generates more greenhouse gas emissions than power generation."
Chu described the unnatural effects of industrial agriculture: what he called "oversexed corn" that devotes all its life energy to making giant kernels, pigs that gain 280 pounds in a matter of months, turkeys so breast-heavy they can't mate and must be artificially inseminated—a planet dominated by animals modified and raised and slaughtered to feed humans.
"Let me tell you how the carbon mass of animals is distributed," Chu said, referring to a recent study of biomass on earth. "Humans and the animals we eat are 96 percent of the carbon mass (of mammals) in the world."
He pointed at the smallest sliver on a chart. "That’s all the buffalo and rats and mice and lions and tigers and bears: 4 percent."
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