Real World Event Discussions

A thread for Democrats Only

POSTED BY: THGRRI
UPDATED: Sunday, September 6, 2026 15:36
VIEWED: 755368
PAGE 154 of 725

Sunday, July 15, 2018 9:43 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

There's zero proof you have a dime to your name here buddy.


There is zero proof you are poor, 6ixStringJack.



Never claimed I was.

Quote:

Or that you voted for Trump.


Okay.

Quote:

With electronic voting and no copy of a paper ballot, I think you'd have a hard time even proving you voted,


Probably true.

Quote:

which brings me to a book about Trump voters being lying sacks of shit:



Nobody cares.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

NOTIFY: Y  | REPLY  | REPLY WITH QUOTE  | PERMALINK  | TOP  | HOME

JJ
Sunday, July 15, 2018 10:35 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by captaincrunch:
It occurred to me the other day that Trump is just another Janukovych. Maybe he’ll run off to Moscow like Yanu did?



We can offer to pay for the ticket.

T

NOTIFY: Y  | REPLY  | REPLY WITH QUOTE  | PERMALINK  | TOP  | HOME

Sunday, July 15, 2018 11:15 PM

Why Trump is an easy mark for Putin
A former US ambassador to Russia breaks down the Trump-Putin meeting.

“There is a danger simply in having the meeting if there’s nothing to be gained from it”

Sean Illing: Is it a mistake for Trump to hold this meeting with Putin?

Michael McFaul: No, I’m not in that camp. We engage with autocrats and adversaries all the time. We did this during the Cold War under very perilous times. So generally I’m not against holding summits, even with people like Putin. But in this particular instance, it just doesn’t feel like there’s an agenda to advance.

When I was in the Obama administration, that was the way we approached all summits with Russian leaders. The first question we asked was, “What set of objectives are we going to advance by having this meeting?” And we canceled a summit with Russia that was scheduled in 2013 because there was no concrete agenda to advance and because Putin had granted asylum to Edward Snowden.

We decided that was too much of an affront for us to move forward with the meeting. What Putin has done in the last couple of years, however, is completely outrageous compared to what he did in 2013.

Sean Illing: There doesn’t seem to be any downside for Putin to have this meeting. People worry that Trump might agree to something foolish in a meeting like this, but he’s already helping to advance Putin’s foreign policy, so it’s not clear to me why anything said here will really matter.

Michael McFaul: That’s correct. In terms of his other behavior, Trump is definitely advancing policy outcomes that Putin favors. What he did in Brussels last week, for example, was absolutely in Putin’s interest. But it’s important to remember that there is a danger simply in having the meeting if there’s nothing to be gained from it.

Trump’s instinct is going to be to forget about the past, to forget about Russia’s annexation of Crimea, to forget about Russia’s war in Ukraine, to skim over Putin’s support for one of the worst dictators in the world, Syrian President Bashar al-Assad, and to say next to nothing about Russia violating our sovereignty in the 2016 election. Because his impulse to get along is so strong, he’s going to forge ahead and forget about all these issues.

And of course, there’s also the possibility that Trump will give something away or agree to a deal that helps Putin and does nothing to advance American interests.

More at www.vox.com/world/2018/7/15/17552900/trump-putin-helsinki-meeting-mcfa
ul


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

NOTIFY: Y  | REPLY  | REPLY WITH QUOTE  | PERMALINK  | TOP  | HOME

Monday, July 16, 2018 7:22 PM

The man who co-wrote “The Art of the Deal” said Sunday he believes President Trump’s faculties are diminishing — and that he feels obligated to sound the alarm.

“We are in a true emergency,” Tony Schwartz said on CNN Sunday. “And the accelerated rate at which his breakdown or decompensation is occurring is cause for us, and certainly for me, to come onto TV more often, to tweet more often.”

Schwartz told CNN’s Brian Stelter that he felt comfortable making that assessment because he had “spent an enormous time with [Trump] over a period of 18 months.”

He also said he was a 25-year student of psychology and had spent “an enormous amount of time” with shrinks who were trying to get to the bottom of Trump.

Schwartz said he felt bad for journalists covering the president because they couldn’t go far enough.

“I believe the republic is in enormous risk that goes far beyond what most journalists are comfortable saying and what the general public, therefore — it doesn’t really fully understand,” he said.

More at https://nypost.com/2018/07/15/art-of-the-deal-co-author-says-trump-is-
losing-his-mind
/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

NOTIFY: Y  | REPLY  | REPLY WITH QUOTE  | PERMALINK  | TOP  | HOME

Wednesday, July 18, 2018 8:21 PM

What Putin has on Trump

It’s hard to know what to say after a week like the one we’ve just experienced. On one hand, none of it should’ve come as a surprise. The full frontal assault on our closest allies in the EU and NATO, like the assault on the free press and the pointless flattery of Vladimir Putin, stretch back two years to the 2016 campaign. Donald Trump has spent this past week doing exactly what he said he would do before his election, and doubling down on the denials that anything but his own genius helped him win that election. And yet, no matter how many times we’ve heard “NO COLLUSION!,” there’s something about watching it unfold in real time that stuns in a way that — like catching a cheating partner after months of suspicion or seeing a loved one die after a terminal illness — no amount of intellectual knowing, understanding, or expecting can prepare you for.

After Trump and Putin met in Helsinki, many pundits and politicians struggled to understand what it is they saw, to rationalize it, to explain it away, to speculate on what kinds of kompromat the Russians could have on Trump, when the answer — like infidelity or death — was staring them, us, in the face. Yes, Putin has something on Trump: He helped him win. That’s the kompromat.

Facing the press after his meeting with Trump, Putin admitted — openly, arrogantly — that yes, he had wanted Trump to win in 2016. But we had known that as early as…2016. His state-run media didn’t do much to hide their boss’s preference: anyone but Hillary Clinton. I remember constantly explaining that summer why Putin preferred Trump to Clinton. Through the spring of 2016, Kremlin TV was clear that it wasn’t that Putin wanted Trump to win, it was that he wanted Clinton to lose. The propaganda machine — and, as we now know, the covert influence machine — got behind Bernie Sanders, Donald Trump, Jill Stein — anyone who wasn’t Clinton.

More at www.gq.com/story/what-putin-has-on-trump

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

NOTIFY: Y  | REPLY  | REPLY WITH QUOTE  | PERMALINK  | TOP  | HOME

Wednesday, July 18, 2018 9:16 PM

lol

Do Right, Be Right. :)

NOTIFY: Y  | REPLY  | REPLY WITH QUOTE  | PERMALINK  | TOP  | HOME

Wednesday, July 18, 2018 9:51 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
lol

Do Right, Be Right. :)

Trump's Space Force will need a motto like the Marines' "Always Prepared." Or the Air Force's "Aim High." I've got it! Trump's Space Force, "No, we don't have light sabers."

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

NOTIFY: Y  | REPLY  | REPLY WITH QUOTE  | PERMALINK  | TOP  | HOME

Thursday, July 19, 2018 5:35 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
lol

Do Right, Be Right. :)

Trump's Space Force will need a motto like the Marines' "Always Prepared." Or the Air Force's "Aim High." I've got it! Trump's Space Force, "No, we don't have light sabers."

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly



Trump always lies, right?

In that case, why not make it "Trump's Space Force: Now with light sabers!"

Do Right, Be Right. :)

NOTIFY: Y  | REPLY  | REPLY WITH QUOTE  | PERMALINK  | TOP  | HOME

JJ
Thursday, July 19, 2018 8:51 PM

"Trumps Space Farce."

T

NOTIFY: Y  | REPLY  | REPLY WITH QUOTE  | PERMALINK  | TOP  | HOME