Real World Event Discussions

A thread for Democrats Only

POSTED BY: THGRRI
UPDATED: Sunday, September 6, 2026 15:36
VIEWED: 755368
PAGE 149 of 725

Sunday, July 8, 2018 8:01 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 1kiki:
Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Sammy "The Bull" Gravano was flipped to prosecute mob boss John Gotti. Why did Sammy flip? Because he made a deal where, if he testified, he would not be prosecuted for murder, although he had killed 19, so that the "Teflon Don" John Gotti could be convicted of one murder. The prosecutor was Mueller.

What does this have to do with Manafort? Manafort is Sammy. Trump is Gotti. Mueller is still Mueller. And instead of not prosecuting Sammy for murder, it's not prosecuting Manafort for Russia. Sammy did get some jail time, but not for 19 murders and he is now out and was interviewed by Vanity Fair after Gotti died in jail. Maybe Manafort will be interviewed by Vanity Fair after Trump dies. As fat and old as Trump is, that could be sooner than Gotti rather than later.

HOW SCARED SHOULD TRUMP BE OF MUELLER? ASK JOHN GOTTI OR SAMMY “THE BULL”
www.vanityfair.com/news/2017/12/how-scared-should-trump-be-of-mueller-
ask-john-gotti-or-sammy-the-bull
] Whatever. All your intense interest in speculation doesn't make it more than speculation. It's a lot like the Douma/ Sarin claims you *thought* were so important. Until the facts came in. And then all that time and effort and thought and belief became so much chaff, to be blown away in the breeze like the wastage it was. A complete waste of your time, and anyone who bothered with your posts. Honestly, life's too short to treat you as anything but a source of amusement.
One would think you'd have learned by now - you're being lied to every day. A narrative is being played over and over and over AND over - while zero evidence is presented. You need to seek facts, and if you can't find them, wait for them. And learn by experience who the liars are.




SECOND is a troll because it constantly misrepresents what people post, fails to address their actual positions, and resorts to personal attacks when its brain isn't working (which is most of the time).
1kiki, never forget you are an idiot logging in from Russia. It required three trials and two decades to get John Gotti into prison for a single murder. In a better world, Mueller would have shot Gotti dead on the street, but Mueller worked through a system that has extraordinary difficulty in slowly making up its mind over many years about important people going to jail for their crimes. If you are a poor person, the opposite of a Trump or a Gotti, justice comes a little too swiftly, unfairly, and inaccurately.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

NOTIFY: Y  | REPLY  | REPLY WITH QUOTE  | PERMALINK  | TOP  | HOME

Sunday, July 8, 2018 9:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 1kiki:
Whatever. All your intense interest in speculation doesn't make it more than speculation. It's a lot like the Douma/ Sarin claims you *thought* were so important. Until the facts came in. And then all that time and effort and thought and belief became so much chaff, to be blown away in the breeze like the wastage it was. A complete waste of your time, and anyone who bothered with your posts. Honestly, life's too short to treat you as anything but a source of amusement.
One would think you'd have learned by now - you're being lied to every day. A narrative is being played over and over and over AND over - while zero evidence is presented. You need to seek facts, and if you can't find them, wait for them. And learn by experience who the liars are.


You've gone from "there's nothing there" to "it doesn't matter."

Just like all the Russian trolls have.

NOTIFY: Y  | REPLY  | REPLY WITH QUOTE  | PERMALINK  | TOP  | HOME

Monday, July 9, 2018 4:23 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by reaverfan:
Quote:

Originally posted by 1kiki:
Whatever. All your intense interest in speculation doesn't make it more than speculation. It's a lot like the Douma/ Sarin claims you *thought* were so important. Until the facts came in. And then all that time and effort and thought and belief became so much chaff, to be blown away in the breeze like the wastage it was. A complete waste of your time, and anyone who bothered with your posts. Honestly, life's too short to treat you as anything but a source of amusement.
One would think you'd have learned by now - you're being lied to every day. A narrative is being played over and over and over AND over - while zero evidence is presented. You need to seek facts, and if you can't find them, wait for them. And learn by experience who the liars are.


You've gone from "there's nothing there" to "it doesn't matter."

Just like all the Russian trolls have.

I "love" that 1kiki says that I need to identify the liars who continuously mislead me. The nicest explanation for Signym's and 1kiki's writing is they are Russian trolls. The saddest and most likely explanation is that they are Americans believing the lies they spread. In the real world of Texas, in areas far from politics, the people that lie constantly and seem unaware of it, are the Trump voters. Maybe they are faking belief in what they say? Maybe they're sincere, yet stupid? It is mixture of both. But if I make a business deal with a Trump voter, it will probably end up in court, eventually, because those guys are no more trustworthy businessmen than Trump himself. They will take shortcuts, they will cheat you, they get on their high horse and insist they are good people of integrity. When the judge or the arbitrator tells them they aren't good, they always seem genuinely amazed. And it is amazing, it is incredible! how little self-knowledge actual Trump voters have. At least with Russian trolls, they know they are faking it for Putin. But genuine American Trump defenders don't know they are fake! So sad for them and America that the country is afflicted with these dimwits. They impoverish the USA, but they have convinced themselves they enrich it.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

NOTIFY: Y  | REPLY  | REPLY WITH QUOTE  | PERMALINK  | TOP  | HOME

Monday, July 9, 2018 7:39 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by second:I "love" that 1kiki says that I need to identify the liars who continuously mislead me. The nicest explanation for Signym's and 1kiki's writing is they are Russian trolls. The saddest and most likely explanation is that they are Americans believing the lies they spread. In the real world of Texas, in areas far from politics, the people that lie constantly and seem unaware of it, are the Trump voters. Maybe they are faking belief in what they say? Maybe they're sincere, yet stupid? It is mixture of both. But if I make a business deal with a Trump voter, it will probably end up in court, eventually, because those guys are no more trustworthy businessmen than Trump himself. They will take shortcuts, they will cheat you, they get on their high horse and insist they are good people of integrity. When the judge or the arbitrator tells them they aren't good, they always seem genuinely amazed. And it is amazing, it is incredible! how little self-knowledge actual Trump voters have. At least with Russian trolls, they know they are faking it for Putin. But genuine American Trump defenders don't know they are fake! So sad for them and America that the country is afflicted with these dimwits. They impoverish the USA, but they have convinced themselves they enrich it.


Post of the week.

NOTIFY: Y  | REPLY  | REPLY WITH QUOTE  | PERMALINK  | TOP  | HOME

Monday, July 9, 2018 10:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by JJ:
Trump says this DOJ report proves there was no collusion with the Russians. One of the charges against his former campaign manager, who by the way was running Trumps campaign for 144 days and not 49 days as Trumps is saying, is conspiracy. In other words, collusion.

Is this you NOT caring about collusion? So, when you say "nobody cares about collusion", does that make you Nobody?

Also, does RUSSIA!!! need to be involved? Because it wasn't in this case. So, if we're not discussing collusion, or Russia, what are we discussing?




SECOND is a troll because it constantly misrepresents what people post, fails to address their actual positions, and resorts to personal attacks when its brain isn't working (which is most of the time).

NOTIFY: N  | REPLY  | REPLY WITH QUOTE  | PERMALINK  | TOP  | HOME

Monday, July 9, 2018 10:35 PM

http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=61954&mid=1
056594#1056594

Monday, July 9, 2018 6:23 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by reaverfan:
Quote:

Originally posted by 1kiki:
Whatever. All your intense interest in speculation doesn't make it more than speculation. It's a lot like the Douma/ Sarin claims you *thought* were so important. Until the facts came in. And then all that time and effort and thought and belief became so much chaff, to be blown away in the breeze like the wastage it was. A complete waste of your time, and anyone who bothered with your posts. Honestly, life's too short to treat you as anything but a source of amusement.
One would think you'd have learned by now - you're being lied to every day. A narrative is being played over and over and over AND over - while zero evidence is presented. You need to seek facts, and if you can't find them, wait for them. And learn by experience who the liars are.


You've gone from "there's nothing there" to "it doesn't matter."

Just like all the Russian trolls have.

I "love" that 1kiki says that I need to identify the liars who continuously mislead me. The nicest explanation for Signym's and 1kiki's writing is they are Russian trolls. The saddest and most likely explanation is that they are Americans believing the lies they spread. In the real world of Texas, in areas far from politics, the people that lie constantly and seem unaware of it, are the Trump voters. Maybe they are faking belief in what they say? Maybe they're sincere, yet stupid? It is mixture of both. But if I make a business deal with a Trump voter, it will probably end up in court, eventually, because those guys are no more trustworthy businessmen than Trump himself. They will take shortcuts, they will cheat you, they get on their high horse and insist they are good people of integrity. When the judge or the arbitrator tells them they aren't good, they always seem genuinely amazed. And it is amazing, it is incredible! how little self-knowledge actual Trump voters have. At least with Russian trolls, they know they are faking it for Putin. But genuine American Trump defenders don't know they are fake! So sad for them and America that the country is afflicted with these dimwits. They impoverish the USA, but they have convinced themselves they enrich it.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly






SECOND is a troll because it constantly misrepresents what people post, fails to address their actual positions, and resorts to personal attacks when its brain isn't working (which is most of the time).

NOTIFY: N  | REPLY  | REPLY WITH QUOTE  | PERMALINK  | TOP  | HOME

Monday, July 9, 2018 10:37 PM

Sunday, July 8, 2018 11:31 AM
http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=61954&mid=1
056605#1056605

Quote:

Originally posted by reaverfan:
Quote:

Originally posted by 1kiki:
Whatever. All your intense interest in speculation doesn't make it more than speculation. It's a lot like the Douma/ Sarin claims you *thought* were so important. Until the facts came in. And then all that time and effort and thought and belief became so much chaff, to be blown away in the breeze like the wastage it was. A complete waste of your time, and anyone who bothered with your posts. Honestly, life's too short to treat you as anything but a source of amusement.
One would think you'd have learned by now - you're being lied to every day. A narrative is being played over and over and over AND over - while zero evidence is presented. You need to seek facts, and if you can't find them, wait for them. And learn by experience who the liars are.


You've gone from "there's nothing there" to "it doesn't matter."

Just like all the Russian trolls have.






SECOND is a troll because it constantly misrepresents what people post, fails to address their actual positions, and resorts to personal attacks when its brain isn't working (which is most of the time).

NOTIFY: N  | REPLY  | REPLY WITH QUOTE  | PERMALINK  | TOP  | HOME

Monday, July 9, 2018 10:40 PM

Monday, July 9, 2018 9:39 AM
http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=61954&mid=1
056686#1056686

Quote:

Originally posted by captaincrunch:
Quote:

Originally posted by second:I "love" that 1kiki says that I need to identify the liars who continuously mislead me. The nicest explanation for Signym's and 1kiki's writing is they are Russian trolls. The saddest and most likely explanation is that they are Americans believing the lies they spread. In the real world of Texas, in areas far from politics, the people that lie constantly and seem unaware of it, are the Trump voters. Maybe they are faking belief in what they say? Maybe they're sincere, yet stupid? It is mixture of both. But if I make a business deal with a Trump voter, it will probably end up in court, eventually, because those guys are no more trustworthy businessmen than Trump himself. They will take shortcuts, they will cheat you, they get on their high horse and insist they are good people of integrity. When the judge or the arbitrator tells them they aren't good, they always seem genuinely amazed. And it is amazing, it is incredible! how little self-knowledge actual Trump voters have. At least with Russian trolls, they know they are faking it for Putin. But genuine American Trump defenders don't know they are fake! So sad for them and America that the country is afflicted with these dimwits. They impoverish the USA, but they have convinced themselves they enrich it.


Post of the week.






SECOND is a troll because it constantly misrepresents what people post, fails to address their actual positions, and resorts to personal attacks when its brain isn't working (which is most of the time).

NOTIFY: N  | REPLY  | REPLY WITH QUOTE  | PERMALINK  | TOP  | HOME

Monday, July 9, 2018 11:00 PM

SECOND

ALL I POSTED WAS THE OPCW REPORT. THEY SAY there were no organophosphates, no Sarin, no nerve agents of any kind at Douma. But the US government said there was. And the media said the same thing many times over.

Is the OPCW lying to you now when they say there were no organophosphates, no Sarin, no nerve agents? Are THEY Russian trolls? Or did the US government and the media lie when they said there was?

I'd appreciate an answer, because SOMEBODY LIED TO YOU. And I'm curious if you can figure out who.




SECOND is a troll because it constantly misrepresents what people post, fails to address their actual positions, and resorts to personal attacks when its brain isn't working (which is most of the time).

NOTIFY: N  | REPLY  | REPLY WITH QUOTE  | PERMALINK  | TOP  | HOME

JJ
Monday, July 9, 2018 11:14 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by captaincrunch:
Quote:

Originally posted by second:I "love" that 1kiki says that I need to identify the liars who continuously mislead me. The nicest explanation for Signym's and 1kiki's writing is they are Russian trolls. The saddest and most likely explanation is that they are Americans believing the lies they spread. In the real world of Texas, in areas far from politics, the people that lie constantly and seem unaware of it, are the Trump voters. Maybe they are faking belief in what they say? Maybe they're sincere, yet stupid? It is mixture of both. But if I make a business deal with a Trump voter, it will probably end up in court, eventually, because those guys are no more trustworthy businessmen than Trump himself. They will take shortcuts, they will cheat you, they get on their high horse and insist they are good people of integrity. When the judge or the arbitrator tells them they aren't good, they always seem genuinely amazed. And it is amazing, it is incredible! how little self-knowledge actual Trump voters have. At least with Russian trolls, they know they are faking it for Putin. But genuine American Trump defenders don't know they are fake! So sad for them and America that the country is afflicted with these dimwits. They impoverish the USA, but they have convinced themselves they enrich it.


Post of the week.



Seconded, hey I made a funny. Seconded, get it.


T

NOTIFY: Y  | REPLY  | REPLY WITH QUOTE  | PERMALINK  | TOP  | HOME