The Evidens

POSTED BY: JO753
UPDATED: Monday, February 14, 2022 07:11
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You live in ignorance. Your kind of "Evidence" will only come from Robert Mueller, many months or years from now ...

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Our 'intelligence' agencies supposedly have SOME type of evidence for all their claims - wouldn't you agree? Then they could easily solve their credibility problem by releasing some of it. Because it's not like they're trying to hide it from Russia, Russia already knows what we know.

So, where's that evidence?


BTW, I fully expect you to not actually try to answer this question OR address my post.

Which is why I'm putting YOU SPECIFICALLY, SECOND-RATE, on 'laugh at' - again.

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Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.

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Originally posted by second:

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Originally posted by 6stringJoker:
Don't be cute.

You said this to me:

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You’re kind of hopeless about understanding, aren't you? You don’t want to know that your god is a gold-plated plastic idol because your future hopes would crash when Trump crashes.

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Explain yourself, or shut the fuck up.

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Don't you remember bitching all last year about being dispirited and unemployed because Obama would not help you? I remember mocking you that Trump would be a failure if he does not get you a job in his first hundred days. Are you now employed? Or have you decided that working is overrated? Have you started early retirement? Or are you waiting for Trump's second term in office to begin before he starts making America great again in your county? If greatness doesn't arrive by the end of eight years, will you be disappointed? Or will you just shrug and say "That's politics"?

I almost forget about your where is the evidence? thingy that seems to be your comeback line to every question about Trump's competence.

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Originally posted by 6stringJoker:
"Evidence?" bears repeating.

Been asking for it for months now.

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And it is worth repeating that Trump did not provide his income tax returns, unlike every President and every candidate. That is evidence that Trump is hiding something criminal. But what, precisely?

If I were prosecuting Trump, I'd subpoena his returns as evidence. We've heard all of Trump's excuses: that it would be a lot of paper (I guess Trump knows nothing of electronic documents), that it would inconvenience him ( that is why he has an accountant), that it would give ammunition to his enemies, but there is no ammo if there is no criminal tax evasion.

There is the uncomfortable fact that President Trump can be prosecuted while in office when he breaks a Federal law. Ask Bill Clinton about perjury and Monica Lewinsky. Unlike voters, the law has little tolerance for lying sacks of shit, be it Bill or Trump.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lewinsky_scandal#Perjury_charges

Bill was also charged with obstruction of justice. Sounds like Trump.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lewinsky_scandal#Impeachment

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I never said I was unemployed because "Obama did not help me". I challenge you to dig up that quote.

I DID say that Obama ruined the economy at double the pace that GWB was ruining it. Meanwhile, people like you and J0 are posting graphs from partisan websites showing how great Obama was for the working class which is just a laugh.



Yes. Show the evidence of Russian collusion. There isn't any yet. It's nothing but fodder for the 5 Minute Hate campaign the MSM has you puppets doing every single day. You should be asking for the proof as well.

Don't post any more bullshit about Trump being my "God". You sound like an idiot when you do that.

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Originally posted by 6stringJoker:

Don't post any more bullshit about Trump . . .

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Today's goddamn guilty confession out of Trump Junior's mouth:

Donald Trump Jr. was promised damaging information about Hillary Clinton before agreeing to meet with a Kremlin-connected Russian lawyer during the 2016 campaign, according to three advisers to the White House briefed on the meeting and two others with knowledge of it.

Hmmm. That’s more interesting, but it’s still based on anonymous sources who may or may not have an axe to grind. The only way we’d know for sure is if Don Jr. fessed up to it, and what are the odds of—

In a statement on Sunday, Donald Trump Jr. said he had met with the Russian lawyer at the request of an acquaintance. “After pleasantries were exchanged,” he said, “the woman stated that she had information that individuals connected to Russia were funding the Democratic National Committee and supporting Ms. Clinton. Her statements were vague, ambiguous and made no sense. No details or supporting information was provided or even offered. It quickly became clear that she had no meaningful information.”

He said she then turned the conversation to adoption of Russian children….“It became clear to me that this was the true agenda all along and that the claims of potentially helpful information were a pretext for the meeting,” Mr. Trump said.

OK then. Whether it was a pretext or not, the Trump folks really did take the meeting in hopes that a very plugged-in Russian lawyer could deliver some dirt on Hillary Clinton. This is hardly proof of collusion, but it certainly moves things a little further in that direction.

The Trump White House has been asked over and over about meetings between campaign aides and Russian nationals. This certainly counts, but they they didn’t reveal it even to the government until recently, and didn’t disclose it publicly until the Times forced them to. Even then, Don Jr. insisted that the meeting was only about Russian adoptions until the Times once again forced him to admit that it had actually been arranged based on promises of Russian info about Hillary Clinton.

This kind of prevarication is what keeps this scandal going. Team Trump keeps swearing they’ve disclosed everything and there’s no there there. Then it turns out there’s something else. Then they lie about that something else until someone forces the truth out of them. This is not how innocent people act.

www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2017/07/donald-trump-jr-met-with-russia
n-lawyer-in-hopes-of-dirt-on-hillary-clinton/



The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Originally posted by 1kiki:

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You live in ignorance. Your kind of "Evidence" will only come from Robert Mueller, many months or years from now ...

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Our 'intelligence' agencies supposedly have SOME type of evidence for all their claims - wouldn't you agree? Then they could easily solve their credibility problem by releasing some of it. Because it's not like they're trying to hide it from Russia, Russia already knows what we know.

So, where's that evidence?


BTW, I fully expect you to not actually try to answer this question OR address my post.

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Trump will be trying to stop election hacking by working with Putin.

The announcement stunned lawmakers from both parties, with Republican Sen. Lindsey Graham describing it as “pretty close” to the “dumbest idea I’ve ever heard.” Graham also blasted Trump for his continued refusal to acknowledge the Russian hacking campaign.

“He is literally the only person I know of who doesn’t believe Russia attacked our election in 2016,” Graham said on NBC News’s “Meet the Press.”

Graham does not know 1kiki.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Now, if we can get peepl out uv their habit uv believing thingz bekuz its wut they want to hear, we coud finally start making progress.- JO

Coming from you JO, that's ironic. When you have to modify a standard definition ("evidence") just to give speculation, accusation, and paranoia some sort of credibility, it's time to start looking at whether or not you're parting ways with reality.
There's only [one] way to determine who's version is closer to "the truth" and that's by examining evidence - REAL evidence, not just someone's say-so - closely. Piece by piece.

For example, I've asked GSTRING more than once to define what he means by Russian "hacking" because, IMHO, there is evidence that they might have done some information-gathering, but none at all that they took active measures to influence our 2016 election. I guess that's just too much reality for GSTRING, who can't be bothered with little "details" like how the DNC has yet to turn over its server to the FBI or the Mueller for examination. - SIGNY

You also asked me about your constant lying.- GSTRING

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Reflexive trolling and more lying from GSTRING.

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Did you accidentally "skip" my response? - try again:

You lie when you say "Cnn says the story is bullcrap" as if that means it's proof that CNN knows there's no collusion.- GSTRING

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Good lord, GSTRING! You're raving at the voices in your head.

Where did I say that CNN's admission of bullcrap stories means that Trump is innocent?? The answer is: Nowhere.

But what it DOES mean is that the geyser of anonymous accusations that you, JO, SECOND, etc have pointed to as "evidence" has turned into a self-admitted spewing gusher of BULLSHIT.

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You know this takes time, you know they couldn't possibly know everything yet, and yet you want to suggest one flip remark by a line producer shows the party is over, no collusion. You're pretty dumb sometimes, but not that dumb.- GSTRING

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YOU KNOW THIS TAKES TIME, YOU KNOW THEY COULDN'T POSSIBLY KNOW EVERYTHING, AND YET YOU WANT TO CONVICT TRUMP BEFORE THEY'VE EVEN COLLECTED EVIDENCE.

You're starting out, clearly, with the idea that Trump is guilty. It doesn't matter to you how good the evidence is, or how poor, all YOU'RE looking for is justification for your predetermined conclusion.

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How long did it take to break Watergate? I expect a genuine answer from you.

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A long time. And curiously, Nixon didn't order the break-in or even the initial cover-up. How long did it take Ken Starr to worm his way from Whitewater to Monica?

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You lie when you expect us to believe you believe anything from CNN, especially some line producer. You think CNN is either a puppet of the administration (during Obama's terms) or a puppet of the Deep State (Trump's term), but always a puppet full of sh*t.

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CNN is a puppet of the deep state, no matter WHO is President.

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You lie when you expect people to believe an off the cuff street hello by Van Jones is PROOF that there's no collusion.

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Again, you're raving to the voices in your head. I expected you to put all of these "anonymous" stories on marinade FROM THE VERY BEGINNING. Not because it was about "Trump" or "Russia" but because that's simply responsible news consumption. EVERY media outlet has a POV. You can't believe ANY of them, and especially not anonymous shit that gets tossed against your monitor just to see what sticks in your brain.

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The question was "what's up this week... how about that Russia thing?" There was nothing happening that week and Van Jones isn't even one of their Russian talking heads. Even if he was and even if he did know some things, you lie when you expect Van Jones is going to be chatty with this acquaintance. The "nothing burger" w

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