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Monday, July 10, 2017 5:53 AM

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Originally posted by G:

Note latest post from SIGGY. Talk about a nothing burger with a side a fries and a large coke. She's just repeating herself. "Evidence, evidence, evidence..." over and over. A monkey could have posted it... OR someone looking to pad their stats. There's no point to posting it unless you just want a response. And the time stamp is hard to explain. Looking forward to her fiction skills.



The stratejy iz to try to 'bury' the evidens we'v posted. Anybody not alredy involved in this thred will hopefully skip to the latest newz insted uv starting at the beginning. Churn churn churn! Bild up the paje count az fast az they can! That alone helps discouraj new readerz, kuz they will think 'too much catching up to do' and pik a fresh thred insted.

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Monday, July 10, 2017 6:13 AM

The latest coverup plan iz to provide bogus BIG SCOOP info to the real newz media outlets and then debunk it. It wuz dun to Dan Rather during the Bush admin.

http://thehill.com/homenews/media/340978-maddow-warns-other-media-of-f
ake-nsa-documents




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Monday, July 10, 2017 6:20 AM

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Originally posted by JO753:

The stratejy iz to try to 'bury' the evidens we'v posted. Anybody not alredy involved in this thred will hopefully skip to the latest newz insted uv starting at the beginning. Churn churn churn! Bild up the paje count az fast az they can! That alone helps discouraj new readerz, kuz they will think 'too much catching up to do' and pik a fresh thred insted.

My Grandmother denied that Buzz Aldrin landed on the moon. She'd say that every year that passes without another landing is "evidence" the first landing was fake. Touching the Saturn booster at Johnson Space Center did not change her belief. The moon rocks on display could have been earth rocks according to her. The Lunar lander and Apollo capsule had to be fake because she wasn't allowed to touch those. I see that Buzz is amused by Trump:


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buzz_Aldrin#Bart_Sibrel_incident
If you want to believe that moon landings or Russian hackings never happened, the "evidence" won't change your mind.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Monday, July 10, 2017 9:12 AM

You say bullshit about Trump being my "God" when it's you that sounds like a religious person.

Somebody says that Russia hacked us, and since it goes along with what you want to believe you believe it.

You've got it backward.

You believing that "Russia ______" happened is equivalent to your grandmother not believing the moon landing happened.

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Monday, July 10, 2017 9:27 AM

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The stratejy iz to try to 'bury' the evidens we'v posted.- JO
WHAT EVIDENCE IS THAT?

There is none. Or if you think there is, PLEASE, bring it to the table.

But I have a better idea, JO! Why don't we discuss AMERICA'S INTERESTS? Then we can measure whatever happens up against that, and not some paranoid mutterings.



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THUGR, JONESING FOR WWIII
All those guns 1kiki, are pointed towards your beloved Russia. All those cyber capabilities, pointed right at Russia. Thanks Putin, and get ready to duck.
I'll accept your apology any time, THUGR. But I know you're not man enough to give me one

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Monday, July 10, 2017 10:29 AM

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Not to be all epistemological, but "evidence" that Putin hacked Trump's election could be faked by anybody because the "evidence" would only be log files full of text about times, dates, URL's.
That would solve the credibility of our 'intelligence' agencies quite nicely! All they'd have to do is cook something up!

Any idea why they haven't? No, of course not.

And, you did not disappoint in your usual evasion of a post and topic! So, let me get back to the fatal flaw in your - some other word than logic.

YOU claim that we'd have to wait weeks ... months ... years ... maybe forever ... for Mueller to provide us evidence that Russia 'hacked' the election. And at the same time you parrot our 'intelligence' agencies in their endless, most often anonymous, and always evidence-free accusations.

Do you now see the basic problem when one combines those two thoughts? It means that all those accusations you parrot are based on what you already know is a total lack of genuine evidence - they're stuff made up out of thin air.

Now, maybe you don't see that as a problem. But other people do.






Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.

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Monday, July 10, 2017 2:11 PM

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My Grandmother denied that Buzz Aldrin landed on the moon. She'd say that every year that passes without another landing is "evidence" the first landing was fake. Touching the Saturn booster at Johnson Space Center did not change her belief. The moon rocks on display could have been earth rocks according to her. The Lunar lander and Apollo capsule had to be fake because she wasn't allowed to touch those. I see that Buzz is amused by Trump:


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buzz_Aldrin#Bart_Sibrel_incident
If you want to believe that moon landings or Russian hackings never happened, the "evidence" won't change your mind.



HA! Poor Buzz! He looks like he wants to yell 'SHUT UP, YOU MORON!'

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Monday, July 10, 2017 2:41 PM

I see, JO, that fortunately you too have given up on trying to appear rational and objective. You finally gave in to the Dark Side, which is what you wanted to do all along.



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THUGR, JONESING FOR WWIII
All those guns 1kiki, are pointed towards your beloved Russia. All those cyber capabilities, pointed right at Russia. Thanks Putin, and get ready to duck.
I'll accept your apology any time, THUGR. But I know you're not man enough to give me one

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Monday, July 10, 2017 5:51 PM

I think J0's run out of anything worthwhile to say.

Every post he made tonight was just calling people he doesn't agree with stupid.

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Monday, July 10, 2017 7:35 PM

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Originally posted by 1kiki:
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Not to be all epistemological, but "evidence" that Putin hacked Trump's election could be faked by anybody because the "evidence" would only be log files full of text about times, dates, URL's.
That would solve the credibility of our 'intelligence' agencies quite nicely! All they'd have to do is cook something up!

Any idea why they haven't? No, of course not.

And, you did not disappoint in your usual evasion of a post and topic! So, let me get back to the fatal flaw in your - some other word than logic.

YOU claim that we'd have to wait weeks ... months ... years ... maybe forever ... for Mueller to provide us evidence that Russia 'hacked' the election. And at the same time you parrot our 'intelligence' agencies in their endless, most often anonymous, and always evidence-free accusations.

Do you now see the basic problem when one combines those two thoughts? It means that all those accusations you parrot are based on what you already know is a total lack of genuine evidence - they're stuff made up out of thin air.

Now, maybe you don't see that as a problem. But other people do.

There is a problem with how you formulated the difference between Mueller and the CIA. Mueller goes to court and Congress. The CIA goes to war for the President.

Mueller needs to write a final report that can guide Congress, which has all the time in the world to decide. At this moment, no matter what Mueller places in his final report, Congress will decide to take NO ACTION. Years from now a different Congress might actually do the opposite of this Congress. That is why Mueller need not be in any hurry to finish his investigation. In contrast, the CIA is always in a hurry because it works for the President.

Why was the CIA in a hurry to decide about Russian hacking? Because Obama wanted to take action. If Trump doesn't like what the CIA reported to Obama, Trump can order them to again investigate Russian hacking. If Trump can't get the answer he wants from the CIA, then that is too bad. He will have to wait until Mueller finishes his report to get, Trump hopes, a different answer.

Is it necessary to say that Putin's statements denying Russian hacking, even if true, are without value in deciding whether Russia did hack?

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