The Evidens
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Originally posted by 6stringJoker:
Stop doing underhanded shit for a living, and then you can't be called out on doing underhanded shit for a living by 3rd parties.
I agree with you on that.
Now, if we can get peepl out uv their habit uv believing thingz bekuz its wut they want to hear, we coud finally start making progress.
I agree with you on that too.
The only problem is who decides what the "Truth" is?
I think you and I probably agree on a majority of issues in real life, but we seem to be polar opposites on most of what gets discussed in here regularly these days.
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Quote:Coming from you, that's ironic. When you have to modify a standard definition ("evidence") just to give speculation, accusation, and paranoia some sort of credibility, it's time to start looking at whether or not you're parting ways with reality.
Now, if we can get peepl out uv their habit uv believing thingz bekuz its wut they want to hear, we coud finally start making progress.
There's only way way to determine who's version is closer to "the truth" and that's by examining evidence - REAL evidence, not just someone's say-so - closely. Piece by piece.
For example, I've asked GSTRING more than once to define what he means by Russian "hacking" because, IMHO, there is evidence that they might have done some information-gathering, but none at all that they took active measures to influence our 2016 election. I guess that's just too much reality for GSTRING, who can't be bothered with little "details" like how the DNC has yet to turn over its server to the FBI or the Mueller for examination.
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"Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor"- William Blake
THUGR, JONESING FOR WWIII
All those guns 1kiki, are pointed towards your beloved Russia. All those cyber capabilities, pointed right at Russia. Thanks Putin, and get ready to duck.
I'll accept your apology any time, THUGR. But I know you're not man enough to give me one
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"Evidence?" bears repeating.
Been asking for it for months now.
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Quote:Are you not comprehending that Trump is a gold-plated plastic god? I'll give you an example from a real place in Ohio where the actual Trump is a fake President, only giving the appearance of reality without the substance. Here is the situation:
Originally posted by 6stringJoker:
What future hopes?
What God?
What are you talking about?
Given the scale of the opioid crisis, it’s not hard to understand why, when Trump promised Ohioans on the campaign trail to “spend the money” to confront the opioid crisis and build a wall so drugs would stop flowing in, locals in this historically blue county took notice. In late October, Trump became the first presidential candidate since John F. Kennedy to visit Ashtabula County. He promised to bring back jobs, to open the long-shuttered steel plants, to build the wall. Twelve days later, Ashtabula residents voted for a Republican president for the first time since Ronald Reagan in 1984.
Now here is where Trump reveals himself to be a plastic god:
1) The Trump wall between Mexico and Texas is not going to get finished in the next 8 years because Trump is not seriously pushing Congress to fund it. He still talks, this week, about Mexico's government paying for it. Such a joker! Remember the wall is for stopping drugs, not just Mexicans.
2) Steel production employment is not returning to 20th century levels because Trump will not outlaw steel made from scrape metal. (Scrape costs only $0.04-$0.065/lb.) Steel industry will not be switching back to making all steel from iron ore. Starting from ore requires twice as many employees compared to melting scrape iron.
In the next four point, Trump reveals himself to not even be gold-plated plastic. Instead, he is dipped in yellow:
3) Trump slashes funding for Medicaid, which is the country’s largest payer for addiction services—and which covers nearly half of Ohio’s prescriptions for the opioid addiction medication buprenorphine.
4) Trump’s 2018 budget proposes substantial cuts to the Administration for Children and Families,
5) cuts to the Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services Administration,
6) cuts to the Temporary Assistance for Needy Families program.
www.motherjones.com/politics/2017/07/children-ohio-opioid-epidemic/
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Don't be cute.
You said this to me:
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You’re kind of hopeless about understanding, aren't you? You don’t want to know that your god is a gold-plated plastic idol because your future hopes would crash when Trump crashes.
Explain yourself, or shut the fuck up.
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Quote:Don't you remember bitching all last year about being dispirited and unemployed because Obama would not help you? I remember mocking you that Trump would be a failure if he does not get you a job in his first hundred days. Are you now employed? Or have you decided that working is overrated? Have you started early retirement? Or are you waiting for Trump's second term in office to begin before he starts making America great again in your county? If greatness doesn't arrive by the end of eight years, will you be disappointed? Or will you just shrug and say "That's politics"?
Originally posted by 6stringJoker:
Don't be cute.
You said this to me:Quote:
You’re kind of hopeless about understanding, aren't you? You don’t want to know that your god is a gold-plated plastic idol because your future hopes would crash when Trump crashes.
Explain yourself, or shut the fuck up.
I almost forget about your where is the evidence? thingy that seems to be your comeback line to every question about Trump's competence.
Quote:And it is worth repeating that Trump did not provide his income tax returns, unlike every President and every candidate. That is evidence that Trump is hiding something criminal. But what, precisely?
Originally posted by 6stringJoker:
"Evidence?" bears repeating.
Been asking for it for months now.
If I were prosecuting Trump, I'd subpoena his returns as evidence. We've heard all of Trump's excuses: that it would be a lot of paper (I guess Trump knows nothing of electronic documents), that it would inconvenience him ( that is why he has an accountant), that it would give ammunition to his enemies, but there is no ammo if there is no criminal tax evasion.
There is the uncomfortable fact that President Trump can be prosecuted while in office when he breaks a Federal law. Ask Bill Clinton about perjury and Monica Lewinsky. Unlike voters, the law has little tolerance for lying sacks of shit, be it Bill or Trump.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lewinsky_scandal#Perjury_charges
Bill was also charged with obstruction of justice. Sounds like Trump.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lewinsky_scandal#Impeachment
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The special prosecutor is sill hiring staff, so the investigation is expanding. 
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Originally posted by second:Quote:
Don't you remember bitching all last year about being dispirited and unemployed because Obama would not help you? I remember mocking you that Trump would be a failure if he does not get you a job in his first hundred days. Are you now employed? Or have you decided that working is overrated? Have you started early retirement? Or are you waiting for Trump's second term in office to begin before he starts making America great again in your county? If greatness doesn't arrive by the end of eight years, will you be disappointed? Or will you just shrug and say "That's politics"?
Originally posted by 6stringJoker:
Don't be cute.
You said this to me:Quote:
You’re kind of hopeless about understanding, aren't you? You don’t want to know that your god is a gold-plated plastic idol because your future hopes would crash when Trump crashes.
Explain yourself, or shut the fuck up.
I almost forget about your where is the evidence? thingy that seems to be your comeback line to every question about Trump's competence. Quote:
And it is worth repeating that Trump did not provide his income tax returns, unlike every President and every candidate. That is evidence that Trump is hiding something criminal. But what, precisely?
Originally posted by 6stringJoker:
"Evidence?" bears repeating.
Been asking for it for months now.
If I were prosecuting Trump, I'd subpoena his returns as evidence. We've heard all of Trump's excuses: that it would be a lot of paper (I guess Trump knows nothing of electronic documents), that it would inconvenience him ( that is why he has an accountant), that it would give ammunition to his enemies, but there is no ammo if there is no criminal tax evasion.
There is the uncomfortable fact that President Trump can be prosecuted while in office when he breaks a Federal law. Ask Bill Clinton about perjury and Monica Lewinsky. Unlike voters, the law has little tolerance for lying sacks of shit, be it Bill or Trump.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lewinsky_scandal#Perjury_charges
Bill was also charged with obstruction of justice. Sounds like Trump.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lewinsky_scandal#Impeachment
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Quote:Mueller’s Empire: Legions of Lawyers, Bottomless Budget, Limitless Jurisdiction
Originally posted by THGRRI:
The special prosecutor is still hiring staff, so the investigation is expanding.
https://amgreatness.com/2017/06/21/muellers-empire-legions-lawyers-bot
tomless-budget-limitless-jurisdiction/
There's no timetable or deadline for the job and for someone like Mueller, the 2018 midterm elections are not going to be a factor. I do hope Mueller's investigation feels as uncomfortable for all Trump voters as would be a 36 month long hemorrhoidectomy. They deserve it plus the after-surgery complications and scars, too.
https://patient.info/forums/discuss/inquiry-into-scar-tissue-after-hem
orrhoidectomy-complications-519836
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After weeks and weeks ... and pages and pages ...
... has any evidence come to light, yet?
Any evidence ... at all?
No?
Time to check out of this thread, then. Again. And put everyone here back on 'ignore'. Again.
Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.
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Quote:You live in ignorance. You have always been a Know Nothing. Your kind of "Evidence" will only come from Robert Mueller, many months or years from now, but Mueller has already been accused of being biased by the GOP, which means there will never, never, never be evidence of anything to satisfy 1kiki.
Originally posted by 1kiki:
After weeks and weeks ... and pages and pages ...
... has any evidence come to light, yet?
Any evidence ... at all?
No?
Time to check out of this thread, then. Again. And put everyone here back on 'ignore'. Again.
Trump’s first public comments on meeting with Putin were on twitter, not the customary presidential news conference at the end of the Group of 20 summit meeting. Putin, however, broke with his normal practice of not speaking to reporters and held a lengthy news conference, in which he told reporters that Trump had “agreed” with his statements about there being no such thing as election interference.
Putin is not waiting for Mueller's final report. Putin has already declared himself and Trump innocent of everything. You have to take his word for truth because Putin will not be providing "evidence".
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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